From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2004 #174 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Monday, June 21 2004 Volume 2004 : Number 174 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Disco [David Marine ] joni 45's ["Marianne Rizzo" ] Re: joni 45's [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Only an artist [steph@cix.co.uk (Anita Gabrielle Tedder)] Re: Did Joni influence the Brady Bunch?? ["Kate Bennett" ] redisco recorrection [Bruce Kimerer ] Re: Joni's Secret and now Joni's humour [Smurfycopy@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 02:37:23 -0700 From: David Marine Subject: Disco Hey List -- Of course you can dance to Rubberband Man. This article was trying to point to the roots of disco, and to me does a good job. Although they certainly should have included an MFSB cut. The Philly Sound has always seemed to me to be the cornerstone of what was to become disco. Later Giorgio Moroder, Patrick Cowley and others morphed disco into what would become the roots of almost all that we now call electronica (hip hop is part of the story of course). Black music, then gay music, this is the history of disco. The Bee Gees were a fantastic pop band and they often used disco templets for their music but I'm not sure they advanced the style. If I do not stop now I will write a book, but if there is interest maybe we should start a real disco thread. Best, David p.s. I believe the only Joni song to ever be officially released as a dance remix (concurrent with the original material) was Shiny Toys, remixed by the brilliant (and later superstar) remixer Francois Kevorkian. Sadly it is unimpressive, IMO. I have it on an import 12". http://www.davidmarine.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 07:53:41 -0400 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: joni 45's I had no idea. - ----Original Message Follows---- From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com To: treegreen1@hotmail.com, joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: joni 45's Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2004 16:33:02 EDT **How many are/were there? Do you ever see someone sell one? How many of you have one? Do you dispaly it in someway? What does it look like? what about the sleeves?** Like Rosanne Rosanadana says, you sure ask a lot of questions! :~) I myself have never owned a Joni 45; the only times I bought 45 was when there was a non-LP b-side, and even though Urge For Going satisfied that criteria I was not such a Joni completist at that time. Besides, I was having to spend all of my dough on Elvis Costello & XTC singles to get all the songs that weren't on albums...THEN they put out a collection of them on an album - D'OH! But Joni did release a lot of singles - sadly there's not a good discography of her work anywhere that I've ever seen. But here are some of her 45's: You're So Square, Baby I Don't Care/Love Big Yellow Taxi/Woodstock (also released w/Carey as a B-side) Boho Dance/In France They Kiss On Main Street California/A Case of You Carey/This Flight Tonight Carey (live)/Jericho (live) Chelsea Morning/Both Sides Now Chelsea Morning/Fiddle And The Drum Chinese Cafe/Ladies Man Cold Blue Steel/Blonde In The Bleachers Court & Spark/Raised On Robbery Coyote/Blue Motel Room Dry Cleaner From Des Moines/same Free Man In Paris/People's Parties Good Friends/Smokin' Help Me/Free Man In Paris (also Just Like This Train as a b-side) Jericho/Dreamland Night In The City/I Had A King Shiny Toys/The Three Great Stimulants Underneath The Streetlights/Be Cool You Turn Me On, I'm A Radio/Urge For Going and you know there may be more - but this is enough to fill up the wurlitzer! Many of them did have some nice picture sleeves too. Bob _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar  get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 08:41:29 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: joni 45's **Also a "Free Man In Paris" demo was listed. Just realize that this actually means "promo" and not demo...that is, it would be a white-label record given to the radio station for airplay as opposed to the versions given to the shops for sale. I would also point out www.Gemm.com, but the record collectors out there surely know about it already. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 17:34 +0100 (BST) From: steph@cix.co.uk (Anita Gabrielle Tedder) Subject: Re: Only an artist In amongst loads and loads of interesting and moving post this week-end, the bit that I was left with was when Debra (dsk11@bellatlantic.net) wrote: "Joni has taught us to expect a lot from her." Thinking about this for some time, I thought it was, for me, the opposite. I felt that Joni has taught me not to expect anything at all - probably from anybody and least of all from her. Of course the paradox is that I have huge expectations of her and others - but that's a whole other story. Love Anita np - Amy Wadge 'Always' ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 10:25:22 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Re: Did Joni influence the Brady Bunch?? LOL... susan good to see you joining in again, bill welcome (if you are new)... obviously no theory or question is too weird for us & you will fit right in with all the rest of us crockpots :~} bill johnson wrote: I realize its barely JC and may seem like a crackpot idea, but here it goes.... Susan (also in Illinoize ... Chicago!) wrote: OK Bill ... being the Joni Freak I am and a Brady Bunch afficionado - I will respond to your question. YES! YES ! YES! How obvious is it that Greg Brady ripped Joni off!? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 10:25:22 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Re: Did Joni influence the Brady Bunch?? LOL... susan good to see you joining in again, bill welcome (if you are new)... obviously no theory or question is too weird for us & you will fit right in with all the rest of us crockpots :~} bill johnson wrote: I realize its barely JC and may seem like a crackpot idea, but here it goes.... Susan (also in Illinoize ... Chicago!) wrote: OK Bill ... being the Joni Freak I am and a Brady Bunch afficionado - I will respond to your question. YES! YES ! YES! How obvious is it that Greg Brady ripped Joni off!? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 00:51:18 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Jamie=20Zubairi?= Subject: Joni's Secret I was reading the transcript of the GLR interview Joni gave a British interviewer in London, publicising her exhibition 'Diary of a Decade' which was in 1990. See http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=891 I was surprised to read that the interviewer had candidly asked her about her child and that she was so open about it. I though that Kilauren was kept a secret until about 1996/97 when she made it public. But then in the I/V she also states that since she had mentioned it, lots of 'Kellys' had emergered, thinking they were Joni's kid. Had Joni ever mentioned Kilauren in any interview prior to 1997 or even prior to this interview of 1990? I know that in Q she flippantly asked 'Is my maternity going to amount to a load of black plastic?' like she never had children. That I/V was in 1988... Much Joni Jamie Zoob - --------------------------------- ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - sooooo many all-new ways to express yourself ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 21:36:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Joni's Secret and now Joni's humour - --- Jamie Zubairi wrote: > I was reading the transcript of the GLR interview > Joni gave a British interviewer in London, > publicising her exhibition 'Diary of a Decade' which > was in 1990. See > http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=891 > I don't know anything about that, but this made me laugh - that Joni's a sharp one: Trevor Dunn: [...] This exhibition is described as a celebration of Canadian art, music, and culture in the city of London. Canada has a reputation a bit like Belgium, you know, the old joke about "can you think of a famous Belgian?" And nobody can. JM: Like the book of English lovers? (Laughs). TD: Wa-wa-wa. ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 21:47:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Only an artist - --- Anita Gabrielle Tedder wrote: > In amongst loads and loads of interesting and moving > post this week-end, > the bit that I was left with was when Debra > (dsk11@bellatlantic.net) > wrote: > > "Joni has taught us to expect a lot from her." > > Thinking about this for some time, I thought it was, > for me, the opposite. > I felt that Joni has taught me not to expect > anything at all - probably > from anybody and least of all from her. Of course > the paradox is that I > have huge expectations of her and others - but > that's a whole other story. Anita, I'm intrigued but not sure what you mean. Do you mean in an "Expect the worse; hope for the best; take what comes" kind of way? Would you mind explaining, please? ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 22:25:40 -0400 From: Bruce Kimerer Subject: redisco recorrection I was, in fact, amiss in using the NJC qualifier in my mention of Dan Hartman. He penned the song JM covered on TI. bruce NP: dan hartman/james brown - living n america ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 22:45:24 EDT From: Smurfycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni's Secret and now Joni's humour Catherine quotes: << JM: Like the book of English lovers? (Laughs). >> Poor Graham! - --Smurf "I DON'T. Buy the tomatoes with. The stems. On them. They don't. Degrade. They go. Down the sink. And into the WATER. Then. They get lodged in the throats of little. OTTERS." - --Christopher Walken, as quoted -- and punctuated -- by Popbitch ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2004 #174 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)