From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2004 #137 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Sunday, May 16 2004 Volume 2004 : Number 137 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- TTT ["Kate Cox" ] Re: Em & getting all of Joni's albums [Em ] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2004 #136 [StDoherty@aol.com] Joni and Childrens's music ["Marianne Rizzo" ] Man From Mars [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Man From Mars [notaro@stpt.usf.edu] Re: Man From Mars, now Jerry's new one [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Man From Mars, now Jerry's new one [Em ] how do you spell idiot? D-E-B [Deb Messling ] Re: how do you spell idiot? D-E-B [Dflahm@aol.com] Re: Man From Mars, now Jerry's new one [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: how do you spell idiot? D-E-B [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Today's Library Links: May 16 [ljirvin@jmdl.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 09:07:08 +0000 From: "Kate Cox" Subject: TTT Thank you everyone who has pointed out the musical and lyrical elements that make TTT worthwhile. I really didn!/t want to believe it wasn!/t good. I think the general consensus is that it isn!/t one of her best albums, but that to some extent it allows us some intimacy, retains the politicised heatedness of the 80!/s and 90!/s (which some see as good, and some as bad!) and generally comes out very favourably when compared to the other fluff that was out at the time! Mack: No Apologies-Darn, this one is almost prophetic and reminds me of some of the tunes on DED. I wonder to myself how could Joan have known what was going to happen in the future, is the woman psychic? Takes my thoughts to Iraq and this latest fiasco with our military, at least the small portion of them that act poorly. Bob: Man From Mars is also top-notch. While the lyric is simpler than what you may be accustomed to, I think it's appropriate for such a mournful song that she speaks so plainly..."the pain won't go away - what am I gonna do?" Rather than plumb a metaphor, she just puts the emotional cards on the table!& Then there are the love songs... Fascinating themes, but she just brushes the surface!& Then there are the "my gripes with the world" tracks.....these all come off sounding hokey & phony - no more sincere than some of the diatribes from DED & CMIARS!&Then there's the sonics of this record. Like Lori said, the same synthetic-sounding guitar chimes throughout, and for no good reason. Jamie: I like TTT, there are songs on it which really hit home for me. Harlem In Havana is just so much JOY, especially with the surprising intro, just something that you wouldn't expect Joni to do. But I've learned that I should never expect Joni to do anything I expect. Hell: I'm with Bob on this one - I definitely like TTT, but I don't think it ranks among her "best" work. Musically it's a little boring, since most of the< /PRE> song have the same kind of sound to me. ..But lyrically, there are some real gems. Perhaps not as many as other albums (as Bob says, it's hard to compete with Blue or Hejira!) but they're still there. .. I do play this one quite a lot - certainly a lot more than STAS or Clouds. And although I said it doesn't rank alongside her best work, it stands up pretty well against releases from other artists at the time (I'm thinking Britney Spears and Christina Aguilera). I think THAT is the real benchmark for me, not how it ranks against other Joni albums! I will definitely sit down and give it another listen, I have to put my preconceptions and expectations aside and just try and unravel the mystery, like any other album! Love Kate - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Want to block unwanted pop-ups? Download the free MSN Toolbar now! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 06:52:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: Em & getting all of Joni's albums - --- PassScribe@aol.com wrote: > I read that you were concerned with spending a lot on CD's lately > and I > was wondering if you're near any used CD stores (we have quite a few > on Long > Island here) Hi Kenny, yes we actually do have one or 2, and these are places I love to go. But what inevitably happens is that I can't leave without dropping $100 or so. Even if I'm finding used stuff. So I order he "low cost" option form Amazon.com, seems most of Joni's bigones are to be had for $6.98 and with shipping its still under $10, so I've been doing that. > or if you have a turntable (I've seen lots of used Joni > LP's) which > will save you some money; yep, have a turntable which I do use, but I find alot of the vinyl from "back then" (70's) isn't that great..sometimes it is..but its hit or miss. Strange because some of my older vinyl and my indy label vinyl is really nice, and has a great sound. But I have alot of vinyl crap on say, Asylum. Too bad, cuz I have lots of it. The other point is: if you really love music (and Joni's music, > in > particular) you will eventually have to get all the albums anyway... > you only live > once, so enjoy it as best you can! Thanks Kenny! I appreciate the input. I'm really REALLY enjoying listneing to a little bit "different" kinds of stuff lately. And its largely due to the musical energy I feel from being a part of this list. Its been a blessing. Hope you have a great day! Em < Subject: Joni and Childrens's music "And the seasons they go round and round And the painted ponies go up and down" I have got my sister's 3 year old twins singing this! . . i usually remember to sing this to them when they are on the swing set. . I am listening to Second Frets, which I enjoy, and hearing Joni sing London Bridge. Any other suggestions for children's music for Joni to feature on this album? Perhaps Joni's grandchildren can offer some inspiration. I want to say to Joni: Joni, Please consider creating a children's album. I know this is rather selfish of me to ask, as you have given us all so much. . . but it would be a true gift to the world. . if I had one wish today. . . . stardust gloden Marianne _________________________________________________________________ Watch LIVE baseball games on your computer with MLB.TV, included with MSN Premium! http://join.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200439ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 13:22:59 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Man From Mars **and think that Man from Mars is a great song And you're in good company - it has become the runaway "hit" from the album in terms of being appreciated by other artists. Of course, there was the Kristen Vigard version from 'Grace of My Heart', also Chaka Khan does a knockout version on her live DVD. David Sanborn's turned in a fine instrumental of it, and two jazz vocalists from Europe have covered it as well. To date, Man From Mars is the only TTT track to be covered (at least in terms of official release) that I'm aware of. If there ARE others, I'd LOVE to know of them! Bob ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 13:39:12 -0400 (EDT) From: notaro@stpt.usf.edu Subject: Re: Man From Mars My new cd, Harlem In Havana, is being released next Tuesday. Jerry Quoting SCJoniGuy@aol.com: > two jazz vocalists from Europe have covered it as well. > > To date, Man From Mars is the only TTT track to be covered (at least in > terms > of official release) that I'm aware of. If there ARE others, I'd LOVE to > know > of them! > > Bob ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 15:45:25 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Man From Mars, now Jerry's new one **My new cd, Harlem In Havana, is being released next Tuesday. It must be a typo then as the All-Music-Guide lists it as "Darlin' in Cabana"! Bob NP: Loretta Lynn, "Portland, Oregon" (man is THIS cool!) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 12:53:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: Man From Mars, now Jerry's new one - --- SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: > NP: Loretta Lynn, "Portland, Oregon" (man is THIS cool!) 'zat on her new one that everyone is talking about, Bob? Went lookin' for it last weekend; couldn't connect tho. Glad to hear the Bob-filter sez "cool". Em :) np: "Nadie Se Salva De La Rumba" - Celia Cruz, Ray Barretto, Adalberto Santiago ===== .............. "I'm a wheel I'm a wheel, I can roll I can feel, and you can't stop me turning. I'm the sun I'm the sun I can move I can run, but you'll never stop me burning." ...rainbow ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 17:15:51 -0400 From: Deb Messling Subject: how do you spell idiot? D-E-B So I'm talking to this older gentlemen trolling through a stack of LPs at my big yard sale, and he buys all these unlikely female artists (some of them so obscure I can't even remember them now). He tells me he once heard a Canadian woman with an incredibly beautiful voice, and he couldn't remember her name, so he buys anything by any female in hopes of hearing her again. I try to help him think of who it could be. Jane Siberry? Celine Dion? Connie Kaldor? I know - it must be Loreena Mckennitt! Never occurred to me to suggest JONI MITCHELL. Oh what an idiot I am. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Deb Messling -^..^- messling@enter.net - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 19:57:02 EDT From: Dflahm@aol.com Subject: Re: how do you spell idiot? D-E-B On the other hand, it is slightly incredible that someone could have been blown away by JM......and NOT remembered her name. While we're on "slightly incredible," dig this: my television brings me about 40 channels of "Music Choice" where I listen to audio, but see onscreen only still graphics--album art and information about the artist currently playing. So this afternoon, on the "Singers and Standards" channel, here comes "Answer Me, Oh My Love" by you-know-who. With the following graphic (I swear): "Joni Mitchell contributed to Charles Mingus' 1979 album 'Mingus.' " LAHM npimh: twilight zone music ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 20:05:39 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Man From Mars, now Jerry's new one **'zat on her new one that everyone is talking about, Bob? 'Tis...and I really enjoyed it - Jack White (The White Stripes) produces & plays, and there's also some Cincinnatti-area studio players. Very raw & real sound. I read a long article about it today in the latest No Depression mag, and just about every cut was a first take. Still has a country influence, but it rocks too. I'm guessing anyone who likes Lucinda & Emmylou would dig it. Bob NP: Mario Ranza & Elisabetta Tamberlan, "Moon At The Window" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 20:08:14 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: how do you spell idiot? D-E-B **"Joni Mitchell contributed to Charles Mingus' 1979 album 'Mingus.' " LOL - that's some awesome trivia all right. I guess you could also say she contributed to James Taylor's "Blue" or Jaco's "Hejira". Bob NP: Mario/Elisabetta, "Solid Love" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 02:00:38 -0400 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Library Links: May 16 On May 16 the following articles were published: 1998: "Dylan Dominates Sizzling Concert" - Victoria Times Colonist (Review - Concert) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=411 1998: "Stuff of Legends" - Rocktropolis website (Review - Concert) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=315 ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2004 #137 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)