From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2004 #127 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Thursday, May 6 2004 Volume 2004 : Number 127 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- please disconnect me ["Cecco Maino" ] Demise of the Joni-Only list [Ed Beauchamp ] Covers 52 Freebies [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Demise of the Joni-Only list [Jerry Notaro ] Re: Demise of the Joni-Only list [Lori Fye ] joni at the deli -- joni content! [Smurfycopy@aol.com] did anyone post this Australian News article already? ["Richard Flynn" ] Re: Subject:--Breaking Nyronews!!! Now SJC ["o" ] Joni on 'Sorry I Haven't A Clue' BBC archive [=?iso-8859-1?q?Jamie=20Zuba] Re: Demise of the Joni-Only list [Ed Beauchamp ] RE: Demise of the Joni-Only list ["Richard Flynn" ] Joni Mitchell Songbook [Deb Messling ] Complete Geffen on Headphones ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: joni at the deli -- joni content! [Catherine McKay ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 10:30:41 +0200 From: "Cecco Maino" Subject: please disconnect me Please,disconnect me from your very interesting mail list:there is much there,though,that does not interest me (as an Italian citizen) and tend to crowd my in-box. Thank you,Cecco Maino ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 04:32:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Ed Beauchamp Subject: Demise of the Joni-Only list Joni-folks(?), Well, it appears that the "NJC" concept has finally broken down completely. Todays Joni-only digest had exactly ONE email that had anything to do with Joni. I don't come here to read about about abortion, choice, war atrocities, opinions about "W" and the government - I come here to read about someone named Joni Mitchell. Since it doesn't appear that this list is about that anymore, I'm outta here. Unsubscribe, here I come. Ed ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 07:38:01 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Covers 52 Freebies Will go to Cindy V in 'Bama & Steve P in 'waukee! They were the CLOSEST (no one seemed to know that Joni's character in "The Black Cat..." was named 'Paula Wilson'. This fact is revealed in the film when she is announced as the winner of the costume contest.) In a way I was pretty damn proud to find a piece of trivia that nobody, not even Deb Messling, knew! So congrats to Cindy & Steve...between these 2 freebies and all the Trains going on now, we've got Covers frisbees flying all over the world! Bob NP: Red Rider, "Lunatic Fringe" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 09:01:09 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Demise of the Joni-Only list > Joni-folks(?), > > Well, it appears that the "NJC" concept has finally > broken down completely. Todays Joni-only digest had > exactly ONE email that had anything to do with Joni. How incorrect can you be? It shows that the NJC concept works EXACTLY as intended. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 07:49:57 -0700 From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: Demise of the Joni-Only list Ed lamented: > Joni-folks(?), > > Well, it appears that the "NJC" concept has finally > broken down completely. Todays Joni-only digest had > exactly ONE email that had anything to do with Joni. Um ... Ed? The surest way to read something about Joni is to START A THREAD. Sorry to see you go, Lori ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 15:43:33 EDT From: Smurfycopy@aol.com Subject: joni at the deli -- joni content! "Singer-songwriter Joni Mitchell seen at the deli at Beverly Glen and Mulholland." From << http://www.ent-today.com/potpourri/apr04/p043004_mt.htm >> ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 15:56:59 -0400 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: did anyone post this Australian News article already? Some Joni content of. perhaps, dubious value: http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/04/26/1082831481811.html Richard Flynn Professor Dept. of Literature and Philosophy Georgia Southern University Statesboro, GA 30460-8023 E-mail: rflynn@georgiasouthern.edu Home page: http://www.GeorgiaSouthern.edu/~rflynn "We go to college to be given one more chance to learn to read in case we haven't learned in High School. Once we have learned to read, the rest can be trusted to add itself unto us." --Robert Frost ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 21:54:58 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Jamie=20Zubairi?= Subject: Some 'Artists' I would like to cover Joni I think we, as a collective, should write to the record company that manufactured the UK pop boy-band 'Blue' to cover an album of ENTIRELY Joni Mitchell songs. I'm sure they could do it. They could name their album after her. I would love to see Joni Mitchell - 'Blue' on the shelves next to Blue - 'Joni Mitchell'. Wouldn't that be cool? What a cross-over sales marketing ploy! Of course that would mean we would have to buy said album and have to listen to them in the charts. Which, apart from Joni's pocket going ch-ching, be a bad thing. Much Joni Jamie Zoob - --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 22:03:02 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Jamie=20Zubairi?= Subject: Woman Beaters Has Joni ever dated a woman beater? I know I know I know, we shouldn't take her lines as being purely autobiography but just picking up on things from various albums, you knida wanna go, 'Oh, tell me more..' I mean from DED 'Lucky Girl' - Cheaters Woman beaters Huck Finn shucksters hopping parking meters' and obviously form 'TI' Not to Blame' - and I'm not going to quote anything because it's purely about woman beaters. Is this why Jackson Browne started ripping into her about being a bitter bitter person -because he felt personally attacked not once but TWICE in song? Makes you wonder... Not too much though, as you could go mad... Much Joni Jamie Zoob - --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 22:28:10 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Jamie=20Zubairi?= Subject: Complete Geffen on Headphones Can I say that listening to DED, CMIARS, WTRF and NRH (but not as much) on headphones is an amazing thing. Maybe it's because I'm at work and that I have downloaded it onto my iTunes so I can while away the hours while I'm stuffing envelopes or inputting some dire health and safety issue (okay so what I do when I'm not acting is dull, but I'm sure it would be wrong of me to get it wrong as people's lives are at stake here) so listening to Joni just takes me away from it. But I have loads of other musicians on my iTunes and the quality just isn't the same. There are some people who come close, like Mingus or Miles Davis but putting a Kate Bush on next to a Joni just is like processed cheese next to brie. (Sorry Kate Bush fans, I'm not saying that Kate's music is processed, I love her music and her lyrics and her voice, I'm just saying that sonically, it's not that deep) It's the depth of the music on TCGR that is just amazing! Every cymbal crash every 'dup doop' of someone's congas is just crystal. And to think that these things were considered by Our Joan-Joan is just genius. Of course. As a fledgling guitarist and musician trying to come up with a credible melody that doesn't sound derivative or just dumb is unbelievably difficult. And to think she was able to go, 'No, this chord will follow this chord (or should that be 'discord') because I like the way it makes me feel, or it feels right for my mood or whatever AND THEN write lyrics for the damn thing and make me weep, makes me weep. I dunno, we have talented musicians on this list - Kate, Owen... is it a matter of just playing and writing and playing and writing and composing lots and not worry about it, even if it's sh!t, until you hit on gold, until your craft of hitting gold gets better so you can go , "no this is going up a thematic cul-de-sac, I should hit reverse". I'm not sure why I've got on to this subject, I should be looking at a Romeo & Juliet speech for Saturday morning, and re-writing a short play I'd written for Friday night. Much Joni Jamie Zoob ps. I'm not saying that Joni's music is like bire, but you know what I mean. Here's a poser - what cheese is Joni's music like? - --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 15:23:30 -0700 From: Mike Friedman Subject: Re: Funny Diana Krall review from amazon vljc They're the worst. People who think no good music has been recorded since 1966 and lament that they can't get pre-recorded reel to reel tapes anymore to play on their 'hi-fi.' It thought it was pretty funny too, but who can take someone seriously who has that much of a spleen to vent? On May 3, 2004, at 2:26 PM, Kay Ashley wrote: > Ken wrote: > >> Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 17:52:20 -0400 >> From: Ken >> Subject: Re: Funny Diana Krall review from amazon vljc >> >> I have only one question to ask. To really validate what he doesn't >> like >> you need to know what he DOES like. >> My question is who does he like. The response I'm afraid will probably >> be Celine Dion or Nicleback. >> (btw if that [Nicleback] is spelled wrong ,who really cares). >> K > > I thought this review was a riot -- but I have to say that I doubt > this guy > likes Celin Dion or Nickleback. I doubt the typical Celine or > Nickleback > fan would have such a sophisticated vocabulary, but perhaps I am being > unfair. My money is on a self-appointed jazz expert, someone who has > no > patience for cross-over types. > > :-) > > Kay > > _____________________________________________________________ > > The information in this email and in any attachments is confidential > and > may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please > destroy > this message, delete any copies held on your systems and notify the > sender > immediately. You should not retain, copy or use this email for any > purpose, nor disclose all or any part of its content to any other > person. > > ==================================================== "See, the human mind is like a...pinata. Break it open, and there's a lot of surprises inside. Once you get the pinata perspective, you see that losing your mind can be a peak experience." - --Trudy (Lily Tomlin) from "The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe" Mike Friedman San Francisco, CA ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 15:28:46 -0700 From: Mike Friedman Subject: Sharing Joni Around Over the years, I've given a couple of friends Joni albums for birthday gifts, and had generally good responses from the people in question. A good friend just turned 40 a couple of weeks ago and I bought him "Blue" and "Hejira," which I thought he would find interesting and meaningful. A couple of days later he left me a phone message and said "I can't get: 'We don't need no piece of paper from the city hall Keepin us tied and true' out of my head." But then I felt like he really GOT Joni, when, a few days later he said that while he liked Blue, he REALLY like Hejira. I almost asked him to marry me right then (which is ironic considering the quote above!) Cheers, Mike ==================================================== "Heart and humor, and humility, he said, will lighten up your heavy load." - --Joni Mitchell, 'Refuge of the Roads,' from "Hejira", 1976 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 00:58:39 +0100 From: "o" Subject: Re: Subject:--Breaking Nyronews!!! Now SJC Fantastic! I hope the recording isn't too bad... Incidentally in Mojo about 6 years ago it was reported that a live album of Joni was about to be released from the '76 tour, with songs from hissing and hejira and some DJRD - obviously it never materialised... I always wondered why not. Anyway, a Nyro recording from this era is gonna be a miracle! o www.owenduff.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 01:19:40 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Jamie=20Zubairi?= Subject: Joni on 'Sorry I Haven't A Clue' BBC archive I was listening online to the BBC archive of 'Sorry I Haven't a Clue' which is a game show which I do't think is on air any longer. Well, one of the games the contestants have to sing along with a track until they stop playing the track and have to keep going and see if they are still with the track once they bring it back up again. Of course it's very funny to see these stalwarts of British comedy doing their thing to Ricky Martin's 'Livin La Vida Loca'. click on the url: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/ and click on 'Launch radio player. I think it's a realplayer so that should play on most people's systems. ONce it's launched click on comedy and quizzes section and then 'Classic I'm sorry I haven't a Clue' Very funny even if Joni's on it briefly Much Joni Jamie Zoob - --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 17:45:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Ed Beauchamp Subject: Re: Demise of the Joni-Only list Hi Lori, Thanks for replying. Sorry, I can see I wasn't as clear as I'd intended to be. The Joni-only digest I referred to had only one Joni-related post, but many non-Joni posts. What I was lamenting was the fact that this has become a real trend lately (you might not realize this, as I suspect you're not a Joni-only). It's getting more difficult to wade though this socio-political stuff to get to the Joni content - which is what I subscribed to the Joni-only list for in the first place. See what I mean? Even as a lurker, this list once had incredible value to me - I've learned so much from it because you all know so much more than I do about Joni. My appreciation for her has grown tremendously as a result. Sure, I could start a thread, as you suggested, and that might add more Joni content, but it wouldn't reduce the non-Joni content, and isn't that the real problem? So, my point is simply that the Joni-only list is no longer Joni-only. The non-Joni posts seem to be outnumbering and overpowering the Joni posts and I just don't have the time to sort through all of the extraneous stuff any more. Peace, Ed - --- Lori Fye wrote: > Ed lamented: > > > Joni-folks(?), > > > > Well, it appears that the "NJC" concept has > finally > > broken down completely. Todays Joni-only digest > had > > exactly ONE email that had anything to do with > Joni. > > > Um ... Ed? The surest way to read something about > Joni is to START A THREAD. > > Sorry to see you go, > Lori ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 21:08:58 -0400 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: Demise of the Joni-Only list As someone who was guilty of accidentally posting one message without the NJC tag, I apologize. But doesn't the Joni-only list recognize that tag and filter out the messages that cary the NJC tag? Most of the political messages seem to have NJC in the subject heading. Or perhaps I misunderstand how it works. If it works the way I think it does, we just need another NJC reminder to keep Ed & other onlies happy, right? Richard - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]On Behalf Of Ed Beauchamp Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 8:46 PM To: Lori Fye Cc: joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Demise of the Joni-Only list Hi Lori, Thanks for replying. Sorry, I can see I wasn't as clear as I'd intended to be. The Joni-only digest I referred to had only one Joni-related post, but many non-Joni posts. What I was lamenting was the fact that this has become a real trend lately (you might not realize this, as I suspect you're not a Joni-only). It's getting more difficult to wade though this socio-political stuff to get to the Joni content - which is what I subscribed to the Joni-only list for in the first place. See what I mean? Even as a lurker, this list once had incredible value to me - I've learned so much from it because you all know so much more than I do about Joni. My appreciation for her has grown tremendously as a result. Sure, I could start a thread, as you suggested, and that might add more Joni content, but it wouldn't reduce the non-Joni content, and isn't that the real problem? So, my point is simply that the Joni-only list is no longer Joni-only. The non-Joni posts seem to be outnumbering and overpowering the Joni posts and I just don't have the time to sort through all of the extraneous stuff any more. Peace, Ed - --- Lori Fye wrote: > Ed lamented: > > > Joni-folks(?), > > > > Well, it appears that the "NJC" concept has > finally > > broken down completely. Todays Joni-only digest > had > > exactly ONE email that had anything to do with > Joni. > > > Um ... Ed? The surest way to read something about > Joni is to START A THREAD. > > Sorry to see you go, > Lori ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 18:33:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: Complete Geffen on Headphones, jonicheese - --- Jamie Zubairi wrote: > Here's a poser - what cheese is Joni's music like? OK Jamie I will play.. to me, I would say Joni's music and art (in general) is like a piece of jarlsberg that was left out on a wood block in the fridge for like a week, and now is a *bit* dried out and might just have a little green stuff. But ya take a knife and cut a funky chunk from the edge anyway, throwing caution to the wind!..and it is so darn GOOD!!!!!!!!!! soulful, with texture, and you even gotta gnaw on it a bit. If you partake of it the wrong way it will make your gums burn too. :) Em < Subject: Joni Mitchell Songbook My husband and I were sorting through an attic full of old boxes, some unopened since 1986. All my husband's stuff - he was a ramblin' guy and never seemed to unpack every time he moved. Any way, in one of the boxes, we found Joni Mitchell Songbook Complete, Volume 1. It has the music for the first three albums and a bunch of art work, mostly from her Magic Marker period. I used to have this book, but don't know what I did with it, so it was a real treat to find it again. And I was so proud of my husband to have owned this book, all by himself! I thought he just tolerated Joni out of love for me. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Deb Messling -^..^- messling@enter.net - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 19:01:36 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Complete Geffen on Headphones Jamie Zoob >But I have loads of other musicians on my iTunes and the quality just isn't the same... I dunno, we have talented musicians on this list - Kate, Owen... is it a matter of just playing and writing and playing and writing and composing lots and not worry about it, even if it's sh!t, until you hit on gold< I'm not sure if I understand your question but it sounds like you are referring to the recording & arranging, not necessarily the songwriting itself... If I'm missing the point, please ask again! Kate www.katebennett.com "bringing the melancholy world of twilight to life almost like magic" The All Music Guide ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 22:03:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: joni at the deli -- joni content! --- Smurfycopy@aol.com wrote: > "Singer-songwriter Joni Mitchell seen at the deli at > Beverly Glen and > Mulholland." > > From << > http://www.ent-today.com/potpourri/apr04/p043004_mt.htm >> This guy could use a good editor: "Singer-songwriter Joni Mitchell seen at the deli at Beverly Glen and Mulholland... After more than a decade of decline, felony drunk-driving arrests and alcohol-related injuries and deaths..." Now we know why Joni hasn't come out with any original songs recently. ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 22:14:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Subject:--Breaking Nyronews!!! Now fortified with Joni content --- o wrote: > Fantastic! I hope the recording isn't too bad... > Incidentally in Mojo about > 6 years ago it was reported that a live album of > Joni was about to be > released from the '76 tour, with songs from hissing > and hejira and some > DJRD - obviously it never materialised... I always > wondered why not. Anyway, > a Nyro recording from this era is gonna be a > miracle! > o > > www.owenduff.co.uk That sounds like it could be the Philly Spectrum show. That would be nice if they could get good master copies of that and remove the hiss. That is one that I have copies of and despite some of the flaws, it really is a good show. ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 22:14:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Subject:--Breaking Nyronews!!! Now fortified with Joni content --- o wrote: > Fantastic! I hope the recording isn't too bad... > Incidentally in Mojo about > 6 years ago it was reported that a live album of > Joni was about to be > released from the '76 tour, with songs from hissing > and hejira and some > DJRD - obviously it never materialised... I always > wondered why not. Anyway, > a Nyro recording from this era is gonna be a > miracle! > o > > www.owenduff.co.uk That sounds like it could be the Philly Spectrum show. That would be nice if they could get good master copies of that and remove the hiss. That is one that I have copies of and despite some of the flaws, it really is a good show. ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 22:15:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Subject:--Breaking Nyronews!!! Now fortified with Joni content --- o wrote: > Fantastic! I hope the recording isn't too bad... > Incidentally in Mojo about > 6 years ago it was reported that a live album of > Joni was about to be > released from the '76 tour, with songs from hissing > and hejira and some > DJRD - obviously it never materialised... I always > wondered why not. Anyway, > a Nyro recording from this era is gonna be a > miracle! > o > > www.owenduff.co.uk That sounds like it could be the Philly Spectrum show. That would be nice if they could get good master copies of that and remove the hiss. That is one that I have copies of and despite some of the flaws, it really is a good show. ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 22:48:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Joni Mitchell Songbook Deb, what a cool story. I have that book, and volume 2 too. A long time ago, I had an original Joni Mitchell songbook that had the songs from "Song to a seagull" and "Clouds" in it, along with some of her never-recorded songs, like "Jeremy", "Strawflower Me" and so on. My sister lent it to someone when we were in highschool and I never saw it again. About a year ago, I bought a copy through E-Bay and it's great having it back again, even if the guitar chords aren't in Joni tunings and even if the piano arrangements (which I once thought were great) turn out to be not-so-great after all. --- Deb Messling wrote: > My husband and I were sorting through an attic full > of old boxes, some > unopened since 1986. All my husband's stuff - he > was a ramblin' guy and > never seemed to unpack every time he moved. Any > way, in one of the boxes, > we found Joni Mitchell Songbook Complete, Volume 1. > It has the music for > the first three albums and a bunch of art work, > mostly from her Magic > Marker period. I used to have this book, but don't > know what I did with > it, so it was a real treat to find it again. And I > was so proud of my > husband to have owned this book, all by himself! I > thought he just > tolerated Joni out of love for me. > > - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Deb Messling -^..^- > messling@enter.net > - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2004 #127 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)