From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2004 #121 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Friday, April 30 2004 Volume 2004 : Number 121 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Diana Krall's "Black Crow" ["G'n H" ] Re: Diana Krall's "Black Crow" [Ken ] re: beat of black wings ["Paul Mepschen" ] a request ["Richard Flynn" ] Re: Diana Krall's "Black Crow" [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Love Actually DVD [Greg Dexter ] LOGO CONTEST!!!!!!!!! [Claud9 ] Rolling Stone ["Kate Cox" ] Re: LOGO CONTEST!!!!!!!!! [Em ] Funny Diana Krall review from amazon vljc [Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Diana Krall's "Black Crow" Is it Diana Krall herself playing the piano? I have listened to this beautiful piano, that has such a "round" sense of timing and very musical lines all the time. Do you happen to know if she is playing and singing at the same time? I was allready so imazed about her sound and phrasing in singing. Wow! When I'll get home, I'll start to listen agen about the versions of Black Crow in S&L and MOA -albums, and do my homeworks well. ______________________ A course of grace and havoc ********************** Special kudos to electric guitarist Anthony Wilson & to Diana herself for her piano work. There are nice solos throughout, and the rhythm section does a nice job of keeping time without drawing attention to themselves (not exactly Jaco-like behavior, but then again nobody else has his talent). With this release and with Cassandra's version, Black Crow potentially moves into a higher level as far as "jazz vocal standards" go. At least, maybe. One can only hope, as it is one my favorite Joni songs and because of the chord structure it really seems to present itself for jazz interpretation. Coincidentally, I had Joni's S&L in my schizophrenic car player...never know what it's going to play...and it cranked up disc 2 which kicks off with Black Crow. Obviously I had heard it before (about a zillion times, plus or minus 100) but once again I was amazed at the precision of this band...give it a spin and just totally immerse yourself at how tight these players are. What stuck out to me this listen was the drumming of Don Alias...he follows the rhythm yet he's all over the place. Michael Brecker absolutely NAILS his solo's...sharp, concise, melodic, always interesting. Then there's Jaco at the end, bouncing off the walls but working within the framework of the song itself...and riding herd over everyone is Joni herself, with great rhythm guitar and a solid wonderful power- ful vocal. At the TOP of her game here in terms of being a bandleader. Homework - Black Crow, from Shadows & Light. Bob ********************** _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 08:12:57 -0400 From: Ken Subject: Re: Diana Krall's "Black Crow" No question about it. Diana is well know as a Jazz pianist and quite capable of singing and playing ensemble. K G'n H wrote: > Is it Diana Krall herself playing the piano? I have listened to this > beautiful piano, that has such a "round" sense of timing and very > musical lines all the time. Do you happen to know if she is playing > and singing at the same time? I was allready so imazed about her sound > and phrasing in singing. Wow! > > When I'll get home, I'll start to listen agen about the versions of > Black Crow in S&L and MOA -albums, and do my homeworks well. > > ______________________ > A course of grace and havoc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 16:02:17 +0200 From: "Paul Mepschen" Subject: re: beat of black wings Suzanne wrote: "I am 53 single, never married because hypocrisy and illogic reign supreme" Well, I can think of other reasons why you never married, sister... By god,it's been a long time I've seen a post so full of ignorance and stupidity. For instance, what is this supposed to mean: "fighting for racial extinction while the rest continue to populate with no concern whatsoever". I'm afraid of the answer, but who is it exactly that you mean by 'the rest'? I don't care in what kind of world you wanne live in - but I don't wanne live in one where women feel the need to 'give' their men children -- we are well beyond such social relations, thank god. paul ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 10:21:15 -0400 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: a request Topics like the war, abortion, etc. are bound to elicit stong emotions and language on the list, and if I wished to avoid those topics, I would join the Joni-onlies, but may I please make a polite request that we not resort to name-calling and adhominem attack here? Basically, all I'm suggesting is that you think maybe one and a half times before you post about how your remarks might be perceived by the rest of us and by the person to whom you are responding. Thanks, Richard ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 11:10:38 -0400 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Diana Krall's "Black Crow" And that puts her a notch above the jazz singers who only play voice, not that there's anything wrong with that. The CD credits ALL the piano to Diana, and there's some great solos. Neil Larsen contributes some Hammond organ, and his work is always great (he's done a lot of work with RLJ). Another little Joni note - Peter Erskine is one of the drummers on this album and he played with Joni on her latest too, both in the studio and on the road. One more "Girl In The Other Room" note: It was a brave move for her to tackle Chris Smither's "Love Me Like A Man" as Bonnie Raitt did such a killer version of it that it became hers. But while Bonnie's was blues/slide guitar based, Diana's is more piano/jazz based. Very nice. And it's funny to hear her voice every a melodic line that is obviously Costello-ish. Anyway, I've enjoyed this album a lot so far. The only bad thing is that I have the new Patti Smith too and that rocks and I have to choose! Bob NP: Son Volt, "Back Into Your World" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 09:47:14 -0700 From: Greg Dexter Subject: Love Actually DVD Hey everybody, lots of Joni content on the bonus features on the new DVD of Love Actually. The director obviously appreciates Joni a lot and talks about the song on the feature about the sound track as well as a discussion on the movie commentary feature with Hugh Grant and others. Greg ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 19:26:46 +0200 From: Claud9 Subject: LOGO CONTEST!!!!!!!!! Hi all you creative procrastinators ;-))) As far as I know, we are on the very slim side of submissions. We only have a few contributions so far and I thank those who have submitted their work. As you all know the dealine is MAY 3!!!!!!!! Yes, you have the entire weekend to still get something together. Then it will be time to vote.... Make yourself immortal and enter your inspirations for the most WONDERFUL logo for Jonifest 2004 to: logocontest@jmdl.com Please note: logo entries should not be sent to my address, but to Les9s (JMDL). Don9t miss this chance --Just imagine what all you can end up on! ;-) Claud ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 19:46:26 +0000 From: "Kate Cox" Subject: Rolling Stone I think there may be several reasons for the failure to include Joni in the Rolling Stone top 50. Firstly, the inclusion of Madonna (whose level of talent is so far below Joni's that it's barely worth pointing out) indicates that willingness to adapt oneself as an artist to current fleeting trends is a big factor in popularity. It has frequently been noted, and she herself has emphasised, that Joni refuses to fit in with contemporary musical vogue and prefers to follow her own muse. "It's the judgement of the moon and stars, your solitary path". Her doggedness in doing this - in the face of ridicule, accusations of fading talent, and, perhaps even more humiliating, complete lack of response to her efforts - should win her respect. However, the record-buying public is fickle and seems to need albums to fit into some comfortably recognisable category, or set of ideological concepts, in order to appreciate them. Madonna is just as popular now that she is 'living the American Life' as when she was the 'Material Girl'... as when she was 'Like A Virgin'... etc. Secondly, the inclusion of Janis Joplin (and other dead people) suggests to my suspicious mind that Joni will not be appreciated until after her death (God forbid, of course!). In the words of Jim Morrison: 'Death makes angels of us all, and gives us wings where we had shoulders, smooth as raven's claws'. The unconcluded nature of both Joni's career and her life story leave a lot of people somehow unable to define her. In this position, they feel safest simply ignoring her, dismissing her to the 'Where are they now?' file without bothering to find out. Thirdly, Joni has failed to conform in other ways apart from refusing to follow trends and refusing to die an early, dramatic, glamorous, life-defining death. She has refused to encourage obsessive media interest in her life, and we can't know anything about a person if the media don't tell us about her... right? She has also refused (as far as I know, correct me if I'm wrong) to have cosmetic surgery, propel the hideous image that women never grow old and never stop being sexy, simply start looking permanently stretched and surprised. I also wonder if the historical feud between Rolling Stone and Joni had anything to do with it... perhaps some massaging of the voting figures... or is that just horribly uncharitable? I don't know if I am just being vitriolic because it hurts me when Joni is dismissed in this way. Of course I don't think people should be FORCED to enjoy listening to something. But I do feel that when a cultural phenomenon like Joni Mitchell has been in existence for decades, constantly innovating and constantly influencing, some respect and some interest should maybe be paid... Love Kate C - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Stay in touch better and keep protected online with MSNs NEW all-in-one Premium Services. Find out more here. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 15:07:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: LOGO CONTEST!!!!!!!!! is there a place online where the "constraints" are stated? Like how many colors may it use? Spot color only?? I guess I'm thinking no process printing..or? What sorts of items must the design be used on? Just a poster??or must it be adaptable to other stuff? I'm thinking I can't get it together for this, and it might be butt ugly anyway..but I'm interested in knowing the "requirements" re: color use and such. :) thx! Em - --- Claud9 wrote: > Hi all you creative procrastinators ;-))) > > As far as I know, we are on the very slim side of submissions. We > only have > a few contributions so far and I thank those who have submitted their > work. > As you all know the dealine is MAY 3!!!!!!!! Yes, you have the > entire > weekend to still get something together. > Then it will be time to vote.... > > Make yourself immortal and enter your inspirations for the most > WONDERFUL > logo for Jonifest 2004 to: logocontest@jmdl.com > Please note: logo entries should not be sent to my address, but to > Les9s > (JMDL). > > Don9t miss this chance --Just imagine what all you can end up on! ;-) > Claud ===== ........... "thats just the scale; the fish come later". ;) Norman Blake __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 22:20:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Funny Diana Krall review from amazon vljc ....Yes, but did he like it? LOL. Here's a review I spotted on amazon.ca for Diana Krall's latest (among quite a few very positive reviews)- it goes to show you how tastes can vary and in such extreme ways. This one is at complete odds with what I've heard elsewhere. I know stuff like this pisses some people off, and I'm probably very evil to find this stuff funny, but I don't have a problem with people not liking things, and this guy is really quite funny about it! > Reviewer: paul duffy from phoenixville, pa United > States > Much to my own surprise, Krall has managed to plumb > new depths of tedious > preciousness that will cure even the most resilient > bouts of insomnia, and > has managed to do it not just on the massacre of > otherwise great songs, but > through her new found collaboration with her > self-absorbed mate. > Make no mistake about it, this is crap of the most > fetid odor. There are > other white Canadians quite capable of acquitting > themselves admirably in > jazz context who must be ready to jump off the sky > tower in TO every time > the BC Chanteusse sells a unit. To compare her to > Bill Evans is to insult > two countries, plus an entire tradition (or two). > Thank God no one has > invoked Oscar Peterson in the same breath as this > inspidly dull, my God how > overbearingly boring, ivory tinkler. > Where to begin to castigate this junk? Were I Chris > Smither or Tom Waits, > perhaps I'd sue for damages for her odious > renditions of "Love me like a > Man" (Think monotone Marie Osmond) and "Temptation" > (pity Oscar Wilde is no > longer with us, I think he'd opine on this cure). > Krall continues her > assault on Joni Mitchell with as life draining a > cover of "Black Crow" as > you'll ever hear. Krall must have ambitions to be a > chartered accountant. > And as painfully monotonous as these covers are, > they positively radiate > with passionate heat compared to her work with the > collaborations with EC. > Aul' Declan can't seem to get the focus on much of > this stuff, like trying > to draw a bead on a target after knocking down a > bottle of quaaludes. > "Changed my Address" seems to be about literally > changing an address and the > closing of a club Krall played in (who cares?), and > succeeds at drawing no > emotion from the listener about either scenario. > "Almost Blue" is almost > dead on arrival. "Girl in the Other Room," well, may > blessings rain down > upon their love, but I'd just as soon brick both of > them in until they get > how to write and convey a song. > In a career that inspires paint to dry at an > excrutiatingly slow pace, Krall > has reset the bar lower with this release. If you > are a fan of this tripe, > my heart bleeds for you. --. ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 01:32:46 EDT From: BRYAN8847@aol.com Subject: more covers kd lang will be covering Jericho and Case of You on her upcoming CD -- turning out to be another great cover year for Joni Bryan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 02:05:07 -0400 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Library Links: April 30 On April 30 the following articles were published: 1983: "Joni Mitchell in London at Wembley Arena" - New Musical Express (Review - Concert, with photographs) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=212 1997: "Joni Mitchell New Hall of Famer will be absent" - Toronto Sun (News Item) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=139 ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2004 #121 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? 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