From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2004 #116 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Sunday, April 25 2004 Volume 2004 : Number 116 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: JMDL Digest V2004 #189 [BCM HUMAN RESOURCES] Re: Connecting the Dots - and Trying out new songs in concert [Bobsart48@] thank you! and how I got into Joni ["Kate Cox" ] Re: thank you! and how I got into Joni [Smurfycopy@aol.com] Joni is quirkier? ["Russell Bowden" ] RE: Connecting the Dots - and Trying out new songs in concert 98% JC ["La] Old Thread: DJRD and recommendations ["Richard Flynn" ] Greetings from Jazz Fest [Michael Paz ] Re: Greetings from Jazz Fest [Randy Remote ] mr. peepers [Jennifer Faulkner ] Re: Connecting the Dots - and Trying out new songs in concert 98% JC [Bob] Today's Library Links: April 25 [ljirvin@jmdl.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 02:18:05 -0500 (CDT) From: BCM HUMAN RESOURCES Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2004 #189 This user is no longer with Baylor College of Medicine. Thanks, Baylor College of Medicine ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 10:32:12 EDT From: Bobsart48@aol.com Subject: Re: Connecting the Dots - and Trying out new songs in concert A while back, I wrote **my perception is that Joni's typical "art first, commerce second" approach in this area was relatively rare. Do you all agree ?** and Bob Muller replied "I don't find it particularly noteworthy, Bob...most artists who are in "heavy growth mode" as Joni was at that time will keep their creative juices flowing and will use the road to try out and test new material. I would venture to say that of the many concerts I've attended, about half featured a comment by the artist saying that they were going to play some new songs." Bob, thanks for sharing your experience. However, my lead in to my quote above was "On the scale of venue in which Joni was performing (TV / Carnegie Hall / Paris Theatre)" These three appearances were rather more than merely "being on the road" to my sensibilities - they were truly special events (her first - only ? - televised full concert appearance, a Carnegie Hall concert, and a concert that was to air on BBC radio with her "special guest" rising star/accompanist. And, it wasn't just a song or two - it was a half dozen each time. So, my question is, does anyone remember anything quite comparable to that ? You know, like the Beatles appearing on the Ed Sullivan Show to do two new songs that nobody had ever heard before ? Bobsart PS - my best recent experiences involved the Moody Blues in November playing a few tracks from their latest Christmas song album "December", but I think that record was already out by then, no ? Also, I saw Emmy Lou at Carnegie circa November - I do not recall her playing songs from her recently (subsequently ?) released CD (where she did the songwriting - bravo to her for embarking on a 'new' career so late in the game), but I could easily be mistaken in that regard (my seats were crummy and the sound was awful, so I could have missed what she was saying). ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 14:41:50 +0000 From: "Kate Cox" Subject: thank you! and how I got into Joni I just wanted to say thank-you to everyone who has sent me a post or e-mail welcoming me to the list! Bree asked me how I got into Joni. I have a feeling that if I recount it in detail, it will sound a lot like someone telling you the story of how they fell in love with their boyfriend or girlfriend! Ie fascinating to the person telling the story, but not so much to the person listening! But suffice to say, my Dad has the best taste in music of anyone I know, and I have long rooted through his record collection to satisfy my need to listen to something decent (not much modern music appeals to me, but I'm not criticising it!). I borrowed 'Hejira' from him when I went away to university a couple of years ago, and at first I couldn't really relate to it, but gradually I noticed that when significant emotional events in my life occurred, lyrics from 'A Strange Boy' would start weaving into my thoughts. One day I decided to just give the whole album a proper listen, and its impact on me was absolutely inexpressible. I actually thought I might be going mad, because I had never heard anything so brilliant in my whole life! I realised that I had been waiting for this voice, this narrative, for absolutely years. Joni sang things that I could not possibly ignore, things that spoke to me on such a personal level that I made quite drastic changes in my life and my identity. Mainly the line I quoted before: "We're only particles of change, I know, I know, orbiting around the sun, but how can I have that point of view when I'm always bound and tied to someone?". Taking control of my life wasn't something I had as much experience in as Joni does, and I made some pretty bad mistakes along the way, and when I did I found perfect reflection and empathy in the painfully beautiful landscapes of Blue, FTR and STOAS. Even though I know the lyrics to these albums (and others!) backwards now, I still need them as a constant narrative and analysis. Some people I know find it quite strange that I empathise with Joni to the extent I do, but all I can say is that I never really began to understand myself, other people, or human relationships in general until the first time I played Hejira. I'm also equally into her albums which are more of a social commentary, especially HOSL. Sorry that was such a long answer and I have a feeling it did sound like someone describing the beginning of a love affair, despite my efforts! Does anyone else have any stories about how they got into Joni? I would really love to hear them if so! Best wishes Kate Cox - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Stay in touch better and keep protected online with MSNs NEW all-in-one Premium Services. Find out more here. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 11:01:46 EDT From: Smurfycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: thank you! and how I got into Joni Kate writes: << I actually thought I might be going mad, because I had never heard anything so brilliant in my whole life! I realised that I had been waiting for this voice, this narrative, for absolutely years. Joni sang things that I could not possibly ignore, things that spoke to me on such a personal level that I made quite drastic changes in my life and my identity. >> Boy, are you in the right place! Thanks for a wonderful story that I am sure has heads nodding thoughout the known Joniworld. << I know the lyrics to these albums (and others!) backwards now >> Get thee to a Jonifest, sister. I will never forget my first one when I was in a room filled with people who knew -- and were singing -- all Joni's lyrics. That never happens in "real" life. Have a great weekend, - --Smurf ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 12:59:55 -0700 From: "Russell Bowden" Subject: Joni is quirkier? Gang, If this has been posted already, please forgive blah yadda blah. I read on online review of D Krall's latest where it mentioned her singing some covers from "quirkier writers like Joni Mitchell". In all the Joni years of my life, that is one word I NEVER came up with to describe her. The review was in the NY Post. Aloha nui, Russellulu - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar  get it now! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 16:20:11 -0400 From: "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: RE: Connecting the Dots - and Trying out new songs in concert 98% JC Maybe one: was "All You Need Is Love" out when they did it on TV? But your point is taken, at least with me, about singers doing "known" stuff on TV shows. There are some concerts where she said, "Here's a new one.." and there is something more than polite applause; at some shows the audience recording show something approaching wild enthusiasm. That doesn't happen with every artist. The hit-machine-bands often don't see lots of enthusiasm for new stuff. On the other hand, there are venues, ("showcases?") where people do small shows for industry people and other artists. At those shows (which I have never attended) I've read that the whole point is often to display the new stuff. The intent is to help the marketing people create a "buzz" well before release. (How many times have we read something in Rolling Stone like "JT killed 'em last night at the Bottom Line with several new songs?") Cheryl Wheeler did 2 new songs this month but that was a 200-seat venue; nothing like taking unproven stuff on TV. I'm just glad Joni didn't do the "Junk Man" song or "The London Bridge Song". :) If the Carnegie Hall show was telecast, how come we can't buy the damn thing? Every last person who's seen bits JMDL treed, and the bits on "Joni Mitchell: Woman of Heart And Mind" has been transported to another plane. I want the Carnegie Hall show on DVD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! All the best, Jim From: Bobsart48@aol.com [mailto:Bobsart48@aol.com] These three appearances were rather more than merely "being on the road" to my sensibilities - they were truly special events (her first - only ? - televised full concert appearance, a Carnegie Hall concert, and a concert that was to air on BBC radio with her "special guest" rising star/accompanist. And, it wasn't just a song or two - it was a half dozen each time. So, my question is, does anyone remember anything quite comparable to that ? You know, like the Beatles appearing on the Ed Sullivan Show to do two new songs that nobody had ever heard before ? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 16:54:34 -0400 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: Old Thread: DJRD and recommendations I haven't bought DJRD on compact disc yet, but I did listen to it again last night, and I have a renewed appreciation for it as a coherent work of art. I didn't even find it necessary to pick up the needle and skip the last 4 minutes of "The Tenth World"--though the studio version of "Dreamland" is the best version of a great song, I think. And yes, "Silky Veils" is a sublime amalgam of "Wayfaring Stranger" and "Come all ye Fair and Tender Ladies" with just the right combination of respect and ironic distance. I have a single disc turntable, and did in 1977, too. The quaint set-up of the sides for the "record changer" means one has to pay attention to keep the thing in the proper order: one disc has sides 1 & 4, the other sides 2 & 3. And putting the lp back, I'm not sure of which disc goes in which inside sleeve--anybody know? - -----Original Message----- From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com [mailto:SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 3:18 PM To: "Richard Flynn"; "Lori Fye"; joni@smoe.org Subject: RE: DJRD and recommendations Excellent point, Richard. I think it's just the difference between following her own path, which is what she did with DJRD, and being influenced by Klein to bring in all the pop guests, which was the case with CMIARS. "A Bird That Whistles" from the same album is less the celebs and the gauze of the rest of it, which works in its favor to be sure. Bob NP: REM, "Pilgrimage" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 11:15:32 +1000 From: "Dylan Rush" Subject: I want to write to Joni Mitchell I'm going about the process of writing to all my heroes. I wrote to Yoko Ono, she wrote back, so now I'm writing to Joni Mitchell. How would I go about this? I've tried all these creepy celebrity-address websites but they all cost money and I don't know how accurate they'd be. Who is Joni's management? Should I ask Nonesuch? _________________________________________________________________ SEEK: Now with over 50,000 dream jobs! Click here: http://ninemsn.seek.com.au?hotmail ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 21:13:49 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Greetings from Jazz Fest Hello All from Jazz Fest in New Orleans. As usual I am very very busy for Jazz Fest but have been having some fun as well. Tomorrow I start work on a documentary movie about New Orleans music which will be out on Columbia TriStar soon. The actual concert is on Tuesday night. It is called Southern Nights. The concert is called "Make It Funky". It should be a lot of fun seeing how tons of the musicians are friends. A few international musicians are participating like: Keith Richards, Chris Robinson (part time New Orleans resident and married to a very cute Kate Hudson), Steve Jordan (of Dave Letterman fame and also an Xpensive WinO, Bonnie Raitt, Steve Winwood (who I am very excited to see) and tons more. I will file a report when I come back down (so to speak). I am dreadfully behind on all the threads and birthdays but wanted to send a shout out to my pal Walt (the noodle monster!!!) and my dear friend and book worm Lieve. Hope you had wonderful days and I will toast you as soon as I go get me a bottle of Gordons at the super. Also wanted to sign up as one of the Tom Robbins junkies. I love the man and his work. Esp. Roadside Attraction and Still Life and Jitterbug Perfume (which was partially set in New Orleans. I like John Irving equally as much and am entertained in the same sort of way by their writing styles. I have always called them "absurd realists" which I am not really sure what that means but it makes sense to me. I just love their twisted way of looking at things and being humorous about things. Anyways love to all and have a great couple of weeks. Hope to catch up with you all soon (I am about 700 emails behind). See some of you in a very short time up in the Catskills (MAKE YOUR RESERVATIONS NOW!!!!!!!!!) Love Paz NP-Mona Lisas and Madhatters-Nikki at last years fest ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 19:42:36 -0700 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: Greetings from Jazz Fest Congrats, Michael, even tho you are too busy to read this! Michael Paz wrote: > Tomorrow I start work on a > documentary movie about New Orleans music which will be out on Columbia > TriStar soon. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 21:01:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Jennifer Faulkner Subject: mr. peepers I'm so sorry you lost your cat. I had a similar experience with my ferrets where I thought they were asleep only to find they had died. I have two cats now and will be very sad when they pass away. I'm sure your cat was very special and you love him very much. Love, Jennifer Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 02:06:09 EDT From: Bobsart48@aol.com Subject: Re: Connecting the Dots - and Trying out new songs in concert 98% JC Lama wrote If the Carnegie Hall show was telecast, how come we can't buy the damn thing? Every last person who's seen bits JMDL treed, and the bits on "Joni Mitchell: Woman of Heart And Mind" has been transported to another plane. I want the Carnegie Hall show on DVD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Well, I would like to see either or both of the Carnegie Hall concerts on DVD, too, but I did not say that it was telecast - I was referring to the Pink Dress concert, which contained several songs (some as yet unfinished) from Blue. Bobsart (who does not believe Carnegie Hall knows what they have in those old tapes (assuming they were taped)). ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 02:17:20 -0400 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Library Links: April 25 On April 25 the following article was published: 2000: "Joni Holliday" - Chicago Maroon (Review - Album) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=502 ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2004 #116 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)