From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2004 #93 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Sunday, April 4 2004 Volume 2004 : Number 093 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: listening to Joni when sad [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] The woman in Sunny Sunday, Joni and madness [Nuriel Tobias ] I wish I knew who the songs were about ["anon anon" ] RE; All this talk about language now [MINGSDANCE@aol.com] Re: Joni Covers 51 - Fifty-One is Nifty Fun! [david sapp ] Joni and her own private bidniz ["Russell Bowden" ] Dylan & Victoria ["Kate Bennett" ] The woman in Sunny Sunday, Joni and madness ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: listening to Joni when sad ["amelio747" ] R Stone blows it with Joni again [Randy Remote ] Re: CBC Radio preview of Krall's new CD - April 6 (SJC) [Randy Remote Subject: The woman in Sunny Sunday, Joni and madness Does anybody have an idea who is the woman in Sunny Sunday? Is she a real person? Is it a sad joke about a crazy woman? I'm saying "joke" - because there's something very funny - in an strange way - about a story of a woman who waits every day till night falls only to shoot at the streetlight from her doorstep, miss, then wait till the day after, then try again, on and on. I also feel that Joni understands only too good what it means to be an outsider, mad, strange, call it what you will. I woudln't be surprised to find out that she's touched that dark zone herself. "I told you when i met you i was crazy". What do you think? Love, Nuriel Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway - Enter today ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2004 09:14:49 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: The woman in Sunny Sunday, Joni and madness **Does anybody have an idea who is the woman in Sunny Sunday? Nuri, it is a real person - here's an excerpt from a 1995 NPR interview: LIANE HANSEN: `Sunny Sunday' from Joni Mitchell's most recent album, Turbulent Indigo. I know there's a danger in reading too much into a song, but when I first heard that when I was driving in my car, I wondered whether this woman that dodges the light like Blanche DuBois might be that same woman who woke up on a Chelsea morning and let the sun stream in like butterscotch and sticked to all her senses. JONI MITCHELL: Well, you know, I think the danger is confusing art with the artist. The songs are really designed, and some are autobiographical and some are portraits. Even if they're sung in the first person frequently they're portraits. So, a lot is written from identification, much of this historically. The truth is it's a portrait of a roommate of a friend of mine, a fellow that I paint with. But everything I write I identify with. And then again too, in this particular art form, even a portrait you can put someone else's eyes in it. You know, it's- like Gertrude Stein, Picasso's portrait of Gertrude Stein, he put his own eyes in it. She said, `It doesn't look like me,' and he said, `It will.' But I think the point of the songs, I object to a certain degree that the public is more fascinated by the artist than the art form itself, and I think that the people who get the most out of my music see themselves in it. LIANE HANSEN: I don't think I necessarily saw the woman as you, though. I just saw it as a character. JONI MITCHELL: Yeah, it's a woman in a frustrated position, and so this is a portrait of a stuck woman who has set herself up this game, a target. You know, every once in a while she shoots at this street light. She always misses. You know, the day that she hits it is the day that change will occur in her life. That one little victory, that's all she needs, so it's kind of symbolic of waiting for Godot. [laughter] For change, you know. - ------------------------------------------------------------ The whole interview is available at: http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=1019 Bob NP: Norah Jones, "Carnival Town" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2004 09:52:24 EST From: Smurfycopy@aol.com Subject: Dylan & Victoria The following article, from today's Boston Globe, makes me wonder . . . what Joni tune(s) do you worry about turning up on TV ads? "Blue" for Tidee Bowl? "The Hissing of Summer Lawns" for Miracle Gro? "Electricity" for the local power company? (I'll stop now. I'm scaring myself!) Dylan sings a new tune: lingerie pitchman Lay, lady, lay across my big brass bed -- in a mini balconet bra and bun pant? The times are not only a-changing, folks. They're slipping into something comfortably sheer and sexy, better suited for the boudoir than Highway 61, no doubt. Heads are certainly a-scratching over the pairing of hipster troubadour Bob Dylan and lingerie purveyor Victoria's Secret in a slick new TV ad campaign. Shot in Venice, the ad features scantily clad models and uses a remixed version of Dylan's "Love Sick," off his 1997 album "Time Out of Mind," as its soundtrack. In another stunner, Dylan himself appears on camera (no leopard-skin pillbox hat and matching camisole, though). The ad debuted this week on "American Idol" and soon will be seen on shows such as "Will & Grace" and "The O.C." Company execs reportedly sifted through scores of tunes before choosing Dylan's. Not since Cadillac cranked up Led Zeppelin to market luxury cars has the Woodstock generation gotten a bigger jolt of cognitive dissonance. Wrote one blogsite visitor, "Dylan certainly has the right to use his music however he sees fit, but UGH." Another harrumphed that while it was OK to let his song be used for peddling underwear, Dylan "looks like a golden ager gigolo" in the commercial. Ouch. Then again, on Maggie's Farm there were never any supermodels in halter tankinis, were there? Others seem more charitable toward the '60s icon -- or more attuned to commercial reality and the need to make a buck, at any rate. "He's not putting `Blowin' in the Wind' out for air freshener," one blogger protests. Another finds humor in the singer having been asked back in 1965 what sort of product might tempt him to sell out. "Ladies undergarments," Dylan replied, presciently. So if everybody knows baby's got new clothes, they also know what it takes to be just like a woman these days: duds that look great on Tyra Banks. JOSEPH P. KAHN ) Copyright 2004 Globe Newspaper Company. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2004 08:02:30 -0800 (PST) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: Re: The woman in Sunny Sunday, Joni and madness Thank you, Bob. From the sense and the laughter point of the interview, like i wrote before, it does seem that Joni is very much aware of the funny side of this woman's "mental problem". This "game" she's talking about is a crazy one (she calls it troubled, i call it crazy). I do believe that Joni really loves strange human creaturs. In my opinion, some of them are the man who plays for free from for free, the king from I had a king (though he calls her crazy) the man from Ladies man, Nathan la franeer, Scarlet from Shades of scarlet, Richard from the last time i saw Richard, the boy from A strange boy, and in a way, even her mother. I think that Joni finds it easier to paint lyrical portraits of strange and twisted people in order to express her own craziness. I mean, the bit of it that she owns. Nuriel SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: **Does anybody have an idea who is the woman in Sunny Sunday? Nuri, it is a real person - here's an excerpt from a 1995 NPR interview: LIANE HANSEN: `Sunny Sunday' from Joni Mitchell's most recent album, Turbulent Indigo. I know there's a danger in reading too much into a song, but when I first heard that when I was driving in my car, I wondered whether this woman that dodges the light like Blanche DuBois might be that same woman who woke up on a Chelsea morning and let the sun stream in like butterscotch and sticked to all her senses. JONI MITCHELL: Well, you know, I think the danger is confusing art with the artist. The songs are really designed, and some are autobiographical and some are portraits. Even if they're sung in the first person frequently they're portraits. So, a lot is written from identification, much of this historically. The truth is it's a portrait of a roommate of a friend of mine, a fellow that I paint with. But everything I write I identify with. And then again too, in this particular art form, even a portrait you can put someone else's eyes in it. You know, it's- like Gertrude Stein, Picasso's portrait of Gertrude Stein, he put his own eyes in it. She said, `It doesn't look like me,' and he said, `It will.' But I think the point of the songs, I object to a certain degree that the public is more fascinated by the artist than the art form itself, and I think that the people who get the most out of my music see themselves in it. LIANE HANSEN: I don't think I necessarily saw the woman as you, though. I just saw it as a character. JONI MITCHELL: Yeah, it's a woman in a frustrated position, and so this is a portrait of a stuck woman who has set herself up this game, a target. You know, every once in a while she shoots at this street light. She always misses. You know, the day that she hits it is the day that change will occur in her life. That one little victory, that's all she needs, so it's kind of symbolic of waiting for Godot. [laughter] For change, you know. - ------------------------------------------------------------ The whole interview is available at: http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=1019 Bob NP: Norah Jones, "Carnival Town" Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway - Enter today ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2004 11:12:42 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: The woman in Sunny Sunday, Joni and madness **I do believe that Joni really loves strange human creaturs. I think that Joni takes that an extra step and sees that we are ALL strange, troubled, flawed in some way. And it's the flaws, rather than the perfections, that bind us together. "Just when I think he's foolish & childish, and I want him to be manly, I catch *my fool* and *my child* needing love and understanding." Bob NP: Nellie McKay, "Toto Dies" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2004 11:42:30 -0500 From: "michael o'malley" Subject: CBC Radio preview of Krall's new CD - April 6 (SJC) This just in from the Globe & Mail: Dianna Krall's latest CD, The Girl in the Other Room, isn't in stores until April 27th, but CBC Radio's After Hours show (on CBC Radio Two) will be giving it a full airing on Teusday night, April 6th, at 10:05 pm EST. This radio preview willl also include an interview with Krall. For those of you without access to CBC radio on your home radio dial, you should be able to catch this show live on the net. For more info see http://www.cbc.ca/programguide/schedule/dailySchedule.jsp?network=CBC%20Radio %20Two&genre=&startTime=18:00&endTime=25:00&startDate=2004/4/6 Below is the official current press release from Verve Records for 'The Girl in the Other Room' : Acclaimed Artist's First Album to Feature Original Music to be Released April 27, 2004, by Verve Records. 'The Girl in the Other Room,' the first album by acclaimed artist Diana Krall to feature her original compositions, will be released April 27, 2004, by Verve Records. The record, Krall's eighth, includes six songs co-written by Krall and Elvis Costello. In addition, Krall offers her interpretations of Mose Allison's "Stop this World," Tom Waits' "Temptation," Joni Mitchell's "Black Crow," and Costello's "Almost Blue," along with "Love Me Like a Man" (made popular by Bonnie Raitt) and "I'm Pulling Through" (made popular by Billie Holiday). "Temptation" will be released in March as the album's first single. 'The Girl in the Other Room' was co-produced by Krall and three-time Grammy winner Tommy LiPuma. Musicians Anthony Wilson (guitar), Christian McBride (bass), John Clayton (bass), Peter Erskine (drums), Jeff Hamilton (drums), and Terry Lyne Carrington (drums) back Krall's piano and vocals. track listing: 1. "Stop This World" (Mose Allison) 2. "The Girl in the Other Room" (music and lyrics by Diana Krall and Elvis Costello) 3. "Temptation" (Tom Waits) 4. "Almost Blue" (Elvis Costello) 5. "I've Changed My Address" (music by Diana Krall, lyrics by Diana Krall and Elvis Costello) 6. "Love Me Like a Man" (Smither) 7. "I'm Pulling Through" (Herzog) 8. "Black Crow" (Joni Mitchell) 9. "Narrow Daylight" (music by Diana Krall, lyrics by Diana Krall and Elvis Costello) 10. "Abandoned Masquerade" (music by Diana Krall, lyrics by Elvis Costello) 11. "I'm Coming Through" (music by Diana Krall, lyrics by Diana Krall and Elvis Costello) 12. "Departure Bay" (music by Diana Krall, lyrics by Diana Krall and Elvis Costello) Sounds very promising, doesn't it? Michael in Quebec NP: Sarah Harmer - Dandelions in Bullet Holes ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2004 09:23:46 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Re: listening to Joni when sad >Well I find that Joni's music - iparticularly in mine and her early years - to be a place to press my cheek to - when depressed.< Re early years joni, I think for me listening is usually an uplifting thing (even her sad songs), probably because of the nostalgic factor... It brings me back to innocent & youthful times... Brings out that part of me that is still like that inside... Kate www.katebennett.com "bringing the melancholy world of twilight to life almost like magic" The All Music Guide ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2004 12:26:08 -0500 From: "anon anon" Subject: I wish I knew who the songs were about There are so many Songs by Joni where I wish I knew who she was singing about...I guess we'll never know for sure... _________________________________________________________________ Limited-time offer: Fast, reliable MSN 9 Dial-up Internet access FREE for 2 months! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup&pgmarket=en-us&ST=1/go/onm00200361ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2004 12:28:42 EST From: MINGSDANCE@aol.com Subject: RE; All this talk about language now Oueen LULU wrote: ME NOW........ Excellent point Marianne.... I studied comparative US and UK histories as part of my degree. What struck me about the sources I had to study, which included some of the diaries of the early pioneers who colonised what is now the United States, and those who went to "christianise" the "dark" continents.. was their utter arrogance and belief that "they were right". Somehow the indigenous tribes were "wrong". That their belief systems and ways of living were of no importance. They were feared and therefore an enemy and therefore decimated, captured and used as slave labour, or forced off their land and then arms used against them in WARS because they wanted the "white mans land". I utterly believe that each and everyone of us is starting to have to pay back the bad things that were done all those centuries ago. Karma operates on many and subtle levels. We can argue about the worthiness of politicians, who is left or right or centre. About as far as most of us go (and myself included) is to be vaguely interested in what happened, buy dreamcatchers, african oils, asian and american indian prints, mayeb go and visit a country or two and see the tourist facsimile of "the old ways". We also maybe learn a few recipes, wathc a few documentaries and learn about the things that these vanished civilisations valued, before we came into their worlds and shat all over them. The closest any of us really get is dressingour houses to give and african "feel" or whatever the latest craze is for interior design... Before there is a flood of posts pointing out about ancient cannibals, ritual murder etc., That was their society.. that was how they did things. Who were we to say they were wrong? Eventually they would have looked outside and borrowed from our society what they needed to modernise and join us......But of course...they had things we needed so we went in and did our stuff.... What is happening in Iraq is not an isolated decision to suddenly hurt and hate the WEST. We have bullied, lied, cheated, oppressed, stolen, raped, robbed and ruined just about everything we ever touched. WE have not allowed nations to get on with what they do. The only times we get worried about what is going on is when we are made to sit up and realise that our interests (usually commercial, sometimes illegal and usually at the cost to the host nation) are being threatened. Just think for a moment about what is going on. Rights always carry responsibilities. If we, as two large nations, have decided we have a right to something, then we have got to be prepared to accept responsibility when those rights are questioned and our real motives are shown. Arms, drugs (and not just illegal ones), oil, natural gas, labour.. the things that keep economies moving... that is what our countries are into for the major source of income. Wherever we have purused these on soil that is not our own we have ended up in conflict.... Iraq will drag on for years. It was not about Saddam, it is about oil. America knew that, Britain knew that. it is also about arms, and labour. The PNAC has been in place too long for those who are involved to walk with their heads tall and their hands clean. Britain and America (and the other countries who are in this conflict too) will continue to lose young men and women and (whilst it is a terrible thing to happen) they will be butchered and hung up.... America used to tar and feather and put burning tyres around negroes necks, the IRA did that in Northern Ireland... what did we ever expect? After all.. we are all human.........the Iraqis are no less human than we. AS we sew, so shall we reap, Karma, chickens coming home to roost, however we dress it up it is what we deserve.... We do not have to look very far from home to see what we have done..it is not a big thing to do. England has lived with acts of terrorism from the IRA and its various factions for years and years and years (35 to be precise). We are used to bombings and bomb threats and all that goes with it for something that started back in the 1700's in IRELAND as it was then. I suggest that America gets used to it too. It is a sad world. Lucy - ------------------------------ Lucy, I nominate and install you as the "Queen MUM" Ambassador of the stewardship of the planet! Much Love, Mingus ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2004 11:35:07 -0600 (GMT-06:00) From: david sapp Subject: Re: Joni Covers 51 - Fifty-One is Nifty Fun! Well, Bob, perhaps too little too late - but your work is GREATLY appreciated. peace, david PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2004 16:28:48 -0300 From: "Caio Nehring" Subject: Re: Sex and the Joni What is this????? I think you should send the question to The Sun, the english tabloid. Maybe they'll get somethin'out of it. Personally i think you were in a real FOS state or had a deep spiritual contact with Xaviera Hollander when you thought, liked the idea, wrote it down and sent this 2 JMDL. I would like to make mine the words from Kardinel@aol.com "Personally I think someone's personal life is none of your business. I am sure Joni would find it degrading for you to inquire into her sex life especially since she is a very private person. My advice to you is to get a life of your own. I can see now why I don't read this site very often. Kardinel" Caio - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Notaro" To: "Nuriel Tobias" ; "Joni List" Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 4:25 PM Subject: Re: Sex and the Joni > > Hi folks, > > > > Do you think that Joni is good in bed? I mean, waht do we REALLY know about > > it? > > That she has had a lot of practice. > > Wicked Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2004 11:30:12 -0800 From: "Russell Bowden" Subject: Joni and her own private bidniz Aloha, Gang, For those who are just burning to know every intimate detail of our Queen's personal life, and then post the possibilities on a discussion list that she actually might read is at least slightly offensive....(Dear Joni, If you don't care, I apologize for butting in, Love, Russ).... I think. So before anyone goes speculating about something that is really none of our business, why not just drop it? She is flesh and blood, not just some statue in a park. If anybody stills feel the need, then I suggest that you might start off by revealing your sexual behavior first, or we can start gossiping about list's members (ha! get it?) and post them with no thought for the person being discussed. Rant over. Good Passover and Happy Easter.....if I'm leaving anyone out...Happy happy joy joy! Aloha nui, Pakololo Lou (aka and add) Russ - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ MSN Toolbar provides one-click access to Hotmail from any Web page  FREE download! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2004 16:29:01 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: listening to Joni when sad --- Deb wrote: > Hi, > Taking a little poll here. When you are depressed > do you find Joni to be helpful or makes you go > deeper into your depression? I have found that > listening to the demo *It's all over now, Baby > Blue*, her Dylan cover to just make those tears fall > and fall. I find it cathartic. Sometimes I cry, sometimes not, but I always feel better after I've listened. I also find it difficult to sing certain Joni songs when I'm feeling sad or depressed, that is, if it's a song that relates to something I'm going through or have just been through, or something that I emphathize with a great deal even if I haven't personally experienced it. I sometimes get so into it that I end up a wreck and it's a wonder I haven't turned to drink, although that sometimes seems like a good option. But if it's a song I truly love that means a lot to me, I'll sing it anyway and eventually I can do it without the blubbing. Ultimately it's quite therapeutic. ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2004 14:00:22 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Dylan & Victoria >The following article, from today's Boston Globe, makes me wonder . . . what Joni tune(s) do you worry about turning up on TV ads? "Blue" for Tidee Bowl?< Oh gawd smurf that would be the lowest of low... For those of you who don't frequent VS, I was just in that store yesterday & they were playing a dylan song...then at the counter they had one of his cds for sale... this is the second one by an artist they sell in their store... the first was one by sting... Kate www.katebennett.com "bringing the melancholy world of twilight to life almost like magic" The All Music Guide ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2004 14:13:10 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: The woman in Sunny Sunday, Joni and madness Joni>Even if they're sung in the first person frequently they're portraits. So, a lot is written from identification, much of this historically. The truth is it's a portrait of a roommate of a friend of mine, a fellow that I paint with. But everything I write I identify with.< Joni is more self aware than many people including other songwriters (some of whom I have heard say 'I don't know where this song came from or what it means')... Telling a story from the first person perspective is a common form & often the most powerful... But I think most songwriters when writing a portrait of someone else, have an element of their own personal story within the portrait or they would not resonate emotionally enough to bother writing the song... So hooray to joni for acknowledging that! Kate www.katebennett.com "bringing the melancholy world of twilight to life almost like magic" The All Music Guide ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2004 23:28:41 +0100 From: "amelio747" Subject: Re: big yellow taxi Talking of Big Yellow...My sister called me earlier today and told me someone was doing a Joni song on TV! It was the kids version of Stars In Their Eyes (UK) which I usually detest but the girl who did "Big Yellow Taxi" I thought was really good! I noticed she was doing Joni's chords on the guitar too! She also managed the high and low bit at the end! She had to dress up as Joni which is what the show is about I guess (a bit naff) but all in all it was good to see more young people interested in Joni. Didn't watch the rest to see if she won! NP: Sisotowbell Lane * * * * * * Stephen T "I get the urge for going But I never seem to go" - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marianne Rizzo" To: Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 1:17 PM Subject: big yellow taxi > Hi all, > > I have been hearing Big Yellow Taxi by Counting Crows on my local "Soft Rock > Station" (just this morning again). And even tho it is not Joni singing, it > is so good to hear it. > > It is good to hear, "they paved paradise and they put up a parking lot. . . > why d'ya want to give it, why d'ya want to give it, why d'ya want to give it > all a way? . . " > > Sounds like he's talking about giving up the land AND giving up a lover's > relationship at the same time. > > Written with analogus intention. . . jonistyle > > Anyway. . . I am happy the song is being played on pop radio now. . . It > seems like kids growing up in the 80's and the 90's (on the Whole, based on > what I have seen) have grown up in this "throw away society." I like > having the song influence people and to teach them about preserving the > land. > > Land preservation is so important, I feel. > > Reminding others (for some, INTROducing the concept) of preservation (of > anything) is important. > > ps. At first I wrote "Big yellow tax." Which remeinds me that I have got to > get my taxes done! > Yikes. > > p.s. again, I know people who are bus drivers. Nowadays bus drivers drive > kids all over the place . . to their baby sitters. . to their jobs. to > activities. .. > > So the buses have become. "Big Yellow Taxi's." > Anyone know a school bus driver? I knew a whole bunch of them and have > found then to be nice down to earth people. > > conscious of my commas here. . . : -) > (I really don't want to over comma. . . seriously) > > enough with my tangents before breakfast. > > LOve Marianne > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Toolbar provides one-click access to Hotmail from any Web page  FREE > download! http://toolbar.msn.com/go/onm00200413ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2004 23:45:09 +0100 From: "amelio747" Subject: Re: listening to Joni when sad I general I think most of the time Joni's music is comforting when you are sad and/or depressed though I've found there are many different stages/states of depression. I find Joni's music very healing a lot of the time. "River" is such a personal song and I feel a little better for hearing it. However music moves me much more when I'm in a happy mood. NP: The Arrangement (not the happiest of songs but beautiful one the less) * * * * * * Stephen T "I get the urge for going But I never seem to go" - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Deb" To: Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2004 6:34 AM Subject: listening to Joni when sad > Hi, > Taking a little poll here. When you are depressed do you find Joni to be helpful or makes you go deeper into your depression? I have found that listening to the demo *It's all over now, Baby Blue*, her Dylan cover to just make those tears fall and fall. > Also, when I listen to Amelia, I just want to disappear. I guess I am best off listening to Joni when I am not soo depressed but just a little melancholy. Oh, and Man from Mars, I don't care if it is about a cat, it is unbearable. > > Debi - one big boo hoo > > > > **************************** > It's all a dream, She has awoke- Joni Mitchell > > **************************** > Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway - Enter today ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2004 18:43:52 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: R Stone blows it with Joni again The new issue of Rolling Stone is "Celebrating the 50th Anniversary of Rock" (1954? huh?) and their feature article "The Immortals" lists the 50 "most important performers in rock & roll history". As you can probably guess by now, Joni was not one of the 50. To be fair to RS, they did not make the list, they selected a panel of 55 or so musicians, industry pundits, etc to vote, and had it tabulated by an accounting firm. They pared down 125 candidates to 50 "immortals", and there are plenty of obvious choices, Beatles, Hendrix, Dylan, Stones. But how did Madonna beat out Joni? Will Jerry Lee Lewis or The Clash or even Elton John be recognized in future generations as coming anywhere near Joni's artistic achievement? U2 more important than Pink Floyd (who weren't included)? Bo Diddley more than The Grateful Dead or Crosby Stills and Nash? Patty Smith is a great poet, but couldn't sing a note (to paraphrase Jon Lovitz) if she had Billie Holiday stuck in her throat. Fats Domino, The Ramones, Michael Jackson, and The Velvet Underground have all made their contributions, but I would trade them all for X. As you can tell, I'm mortified and outraged! Okay, not really, I don't care all that much. But not having Joni on that list really gets my panties in a bunch. RR Read the article here http://www.rollingstone.com/features/coverstory/featuregen.asp?pid=2846 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2004 19:34:48 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: CBC Radio preview of Krall's new CD - April 6 (SJC) michael o'malley wrote: > Dianna Krall's latest CD, The Girl in the Other Room, > track listing: > > 8. "Black Crow" (Joni Mitchell) Thanks for posting this. Has she done this one in concert before? ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2004 #93 ******************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)