From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2004 #92 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Saturday, April 3 2004 Volume 2004 : Number 092 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Sex and the Joni and that strange Valentine's day [Nuriel Tobias ] Re: AOL [AsharaJM@aol.com] Re: big yellow taxi [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Sex and the Joni and that strange Valentine's day [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: JMDL Digest V2004 #143 sex and joni [Kardinel@aol.com] RE: Joni Covers 51 - Fifty-One is Nifty Fun! ["Bree Mcdonough" ] big yellow taxi ["Kate Bennett" ] listening to Joni when sad [Deb ] Re: listening to Joni when sad [Susan Guzzi ] Today's Library Links: April 3 [ljirvin@jmdl.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 01:26:58 -0800 (PST) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: Re: Sex and the Joni and that strange Valentine's day Smurfycopy@aol.com wrote: Who knows! If Joni actually talked to Mueller, maybe she'd sleep with you! - --Bob My dear, The only thing that can happen in bed between Joni and myself is that we'll put an ashtray in the middle of it and smoke ourselves to death while she covers "Don't smoke in bed". And i never understood what happened that Valentine's day when "Joni" entered the list and talked to Mueller. If it's not to late to ask, then i'd love to know what was that "thing" all about. And as for you, my dear Jerry - you say she has had a lot of practice. NAMES, please! (and why do i get this feeling that Joni's statue should be in nude, Leonardo style?...) Love, Nuri Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway - Enter today ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 05:23:33 EST From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: Gloria Steinem on same-sex marriage I've always found Gloria very perceptive and well spoken, and she still has the knack even at 70. This from her "10 Questions" interview in the latest Time magazine: Q: Do you think the fight to legalize gay marriage is an important battle or a distraction from other, more important women's issues? A: It *is* a women's issue. The idea that sexuality is only O.K. if it ends in reproduction oppresses women - whose health depends on separating sexuality from reproduction - as well as gay men and lesbians. Bush and the right wing have overreached. Even people who oppose same-sex marriage don't want a constitutional amendment. Now me: I had never looked at the issue from that point of view.. Point well taken. - -Julius ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 06:57:06 EST From: AsharaJM@aol.com Subject: Re: Statue fund In a message dated 4/2/2004 12:18:35 AM Eastern Standard Time, BRYAN8847@aol.com writes: Any more details on what went wrong? Lack of funds? Unable to get local officials or leaders on board? Certainly this project is do-able. All I know is what she wrote me: <> Hugs, Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2004 07:17:51 -0500 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: big yellow taxi Hi all, I have been hearing Big Yellow Taxi by Counting Crows on my local "Soft Rock Station" (just this morning again). And even tho it is not Joni singing, it is so good to hear it. It is good to hear, "they paved paradise and they put up a parking lot. . . why d'ya want to give it, why d'ya want to give it, why d'ya want to give it all a way? . . " Sounds like he's talking about giving up the land AND giving up a lover's relationship at the same time. Written with analogus intention. . . jonistyle Anyway. . . I am happy the song is being played on pop radio now. . . It seems like kids growing up in the 80's and the 90's (on the Whole, based on what I have seen) have grown up in this "throw away society." I like having the song influence people and to teach them about preserving the land. Land preservation is so important, I feel. Reminding others (for some, INTROducing the concept) of preservation (of anything) is important. ps. At first I wrote "Big yellow tax." Which remeinds me that I have got to get my taxes done! Yikes. p.s. again, I know people who are bus drivers. Nowadays bus drivers drive kids all over the place . . to their baby sitters. . to their jobs. to activities. .. So the buses have become. "Big Yellow Taxi's." Anyone know a school bus driver? I knew a whole bunch of them and have found then to be nice down to earth people. conscious of my commas here. . . : -) (I really don't want to over comma. . . seriously) enough with my tangents before breakfast. LOve Marianne _________________________________________________________________ MSN Toolbar provides one-click access to Hotmail from any Web page  FREE download! http://toolbar.msn.com/go/onm00200413ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 08:09:34 EST From: AsharaJM@aol.com Subject: Re: AOL In a message dated 3/31/2004 9:19:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, AsharaJM writes: I guess I'll take some vacation on my forwarding task, now. I mean, Smurphy, will you try to do this, also? Maybe Azeem, Laura, BobSart, Ashara, etc I am getting all of Wally's posts. Hugs, Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2004 08:38:14 -0500 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: big yellow taxi I think it's a great cover, Marianne...the Crows really rework the song in their own style and because of their integrity as a band they've literally reintroduced the song (and hopefully the concept of ecological preservation) to a new generation. heck, who knows how many will take the next step to investigate the songwriter and stumble upon Joni's body of work! Just yesterday I was talking to my brother-in-law about the Greenville Braves, as they will be moving to Mississippi after this season. He said "well, you know what they say - you don't know what you got til it's gone". Bob NP: Radiohead, "Vegetable" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2004 08:43:49 -0500 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Sex and the Joni and that strange Valentine's day Me too! I don't have any recollection about a Valentines Day encounter with Joni. The one time I met her was on her birthday in 1998. The only physical contact we had was the hand-holding while Pearl took the picture. (Not so fast, Pearl, let me savor the moment!!):~) Bob NP: Radiohead, "Prove Yourself" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 09:57:04 EST From: Kardinel@aol.com Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2004 #143 sex and joni Personally I think someone's personal life is none of your business. I am sure Joni would find it degrading for you to inquire into her sex life especially since she is a very private person. My advice to you is to get a life of your own. I can see now why I don't read this site very often. Kardinel ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2004 13:26:07 -0500 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: RE: Joni Covers 51 - Fifty-One is Nifty Fun! Bob...you are terrific!! I'm enjoying this one so much. Yes..after hearing Tea Leaf Prophecy by these two women I have a new..and deeper love for this song. (I've played it a good twenty times) IT is simply gorgeous!! AND...Mandy Moore's cover of Help Me...this is the first time I 've heard someday coming close to capturing it the way Joni does. I was so excited when I played this the other day... I wanted to post immediately BUT I didn't want to steal your thunder. David Frizzell cover has really grown on me too. Thanks!! Love.. Bree Reply-To: SCJoniGuy@aol.com >To: joni@smoe.org >Subject: Joni Covers 51 - Fifty-One is Nifty Fun! >Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 22:39:02 EST > >Well, March may be over, but the march of Joni covers is far from done. And >April showers us with yet another original collection of recordings from >folks >around the world, all celebrating our favorite composer. As is my custom, >first things first...thanks to these wonderful folks who contributed >recordings: > >Russ 'Coco Nutz' Bowden >Susan Moss >Laurent Olszer >Thierry Antoine >Dennis Weston > >Well, let's crank up the old victrola and give it a spin, shall we? > >1. Big & Little Choruses, M.H. Stanley Intermediate School - Dreamland: >This >is a cover of the Roger McGuinn cover, hence the glut of wah-wah guitar and >the "Errol Flynn" sarong. Gotta love it. >2. Silvio Cipriani Orchestra - Both Sides Now: This one answers the musical >question "what would BSN sound like if it had been used as the theme song >for >The Munsters?" >3. David Frizzell - A Case Of You: Another oddball. I remember David from >his >country duets with Dottie West, so this one really comes off as a bizarre >choice for a cowboy type, but he deletes the opening verse about that sissy >country Canada so he still retains his machismo. >4. Jade - Big Yellow Taxi: A late 60's pop-folk-psych version from the UK, >fortunately re-released last year on cd, so I didn't have to chase it down >quite >as hard. >5. MPE Band - Twisted: A really fun take on the Ross-Gray classic, check >out >the subliminal backing vocals for bonus yucks. And all the more fun as it's >never been released by the band, another Joni-cover exclusive! >6. Cris Williamson/Holly Near - The Tea Leaf Prophecy (Lay Down Your Arms): >I've said a lot about this one already, I'll simply add that this cover has >brought me to a deeper appreciation of the song. >7. Vince Hill - Both Sides Now: Not to be confused with Vince Gill, who's >married to Amy Grant, who recorded BYT a while ago. I would have sworn this >was >Anthony Newley if I didn't know better. >8. Rudy Linka - California: This Polish jazz trio turns in an ace knockout >instrumental of a Joni song that hasn't gotten it's fair coverage yet, >probably >because its so darn hard to sing. >9. Yoghill - Harry's House >10. Yoghill - The Silky Veils of Ardor: Yoghill is really a French >singer/songwriter (and JMDL'er) by the name of Theirry Antoine. He is >insanely talented, >and sings, plays all the instruments and produced these recordings. And as >you can see, he has a preference to going off the beaten path to record >some of >Joni's lesser-covered stuff. We'll be hearing more from him on future >volumes >too! >11. Patty Weaver - Both Sides Now: I like this one; Patty's got a dynamo >Broadway kind of voice, and she does enough unique things with the vocal >arrangement to make her take on the franchise swing. >12. The Kids Pick Singers - Big Yellow Taxi: The downside to the Counting >Crows BYT is that its starting to spawn a host of these "kids" recordings >of >their cover. Covers of covers of covers - yikes! Hey, at least Joni's >reaping the >benefits. >13. Steve Lacy - Goodbye Pork Pie Hat: Steve's a soprano saxman from way >back, he's into his 6th decade of recording. This is a very mellow and oh >so fine >live recording, a duet that also features Eric Watson playing piano. >14. Tribe - Urge For Going: This one is very pretty, the vocalist reminds >me >a bit of Greg Lake, his voice has that warmth to it. And the vocal is >surrounded by a variety of acoustic instruments. More great Joni music from >France. >15. Ed Bruce - Both Sides Now: See #3 above...Ed is a country-western guy, >and he definitely puts that spin on his BSN. Make me wanna smoke a Marlboro >and >put on a bandana. >16. Doris Hardoon - Conversation: A lovely and very true-to-the-original >version of the LOTC classic, Doris is an Asian folk artist, but you'd never >know >it by her vocal which is very pure sounding. She's also very easy on the >eyes, >but you'd never know that unless I left one of the o's out of her last >name. >17. The Bates College Merimanders - Big Yellow Taxi: Yawn. C'mon you guys, >it's supposed to be fun...put some pep into it! And what the hell is a >Merimander anyway? Sounds too much like salamander to me. >18. Azure McCall - Hissin' Summer Lawns: Ahhh, this one's more like it. >Lovely lovely hawaaian jazz, also very true to the original but when the >original >is so fine, that's a lofty compliment indeed. >19. Mandy Moore - Help Me: And this one's in the same category...Mandy's >mssion was to introduce some great songs and great songwriters to her >generation, >so my hat's off to her. Hey, she did an XTC cover too. She basically sticks >to >Joni's version, with just a slightly updated sound. >20. Titti Breitholtz - Both Sides Now: This one's OK. I can't help but >think >though that if she had Doris' last name, Titti Hardoon sounds like a good >name >for a James Bond girl. >21. Susuma Yokota - Kodomotachi: A bonus track. I don't really count this >one >as a Joni cover, but it's cool in it's own right. It's an >electronic-ambient >thing, featuring a Japanese voice chanting "songs to aging children come" >over >the flowing music. Zen Joni! > >Well, 21 tracks is plenty, I'd better stop now so I'll have more goodies >for >May. If you're interested in getting a copy of this (or any) volume in >what's >been called (by me) the GREATEST COMPILATION IN ROCK AND ROLL HISTORY, just >drop me a line and we'll work it out. Until next month, be cool and keep >those >Joni covers playing! > >Bob _________________________________________________________________ MSN Toolbar provides one-click access to Hotmail from any Web page  FREE download! http://toolbar.msn.com/go/onm00200413ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 14:30:37 EST From: Smurfycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni Covers 51 - Fifty-One is Nifty Fun! Bree writes: << Bob...you are terrific!! >> I was about to say thanks to Bree, then I figured out that this is for the other Bob M. and I am Smurf now anyway! So tell us, Bob, how can we get our own copies of Volume 51? Will there be a free giveaway? Is "free giveaway" redundant? - --Smurf ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2004 15:13:57 -0500 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni Covers 51 - Fifty-One is Nifty Fun! Of course, I'm always open to getting a blank cd & return postage, or you can Paypal or send me $3 to cover all the costs. Contact me off list for more info. I stopped doing the giveaways because there was not a lot of interest, plus I never heard back from most of the people who I'd send copies to, so I just took RLJ's advice "don't give it away if they don't appreciate it". I would say that "free giveaway" is indeed redundant, but then again so is dying in Cleveland. Bob NP: Bonnie Raitt, "Under The Falling Sky" 2/22/72 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 18:28:46 EST From: Smurfycopy@aol.com Subject: "probably the only man alive who should be allowed to sing Joni Mitchell songs." Whoever said that never met Les Ross! From a story about Tom Rush at: < http://www.adn.com/weekend/story/4914036p-4848581c.html >> In the mid-1960s, Rush met singer-songwriter Joni Mitchell. A Chicago Tribune critic once wrote Rush is "probably the only man alive who should be allowed to sing Joni Mitchell songs." That might be because Rush was among the very first to do so, with recordings of her "The Circle Game" and "Urge for Going": "I woke up today and found frost perched on the town/ It hovered in a frozen sky and gobbled summer down/ When the sun turns traitor cold/ And all the trees are shivering in a naked row/ I get the urge for going, but I never seem to go." On his "Circle Game" album, Rush recorded songs by Mitchell and fellow newcomers Jackson Browne and James Taylor. In an interesting side note, the cover photo was taken by Linda Eastman (soon to be McCartney) and is of Rush and the woman for whom he wrote "No Regrets." Taylor and Garth Brooks cite Rush as among their major musical influences. He also introduced singers such as Nanci Griffith and Shawn Colvin to larger audiences through what he billed as his Club 47 concerts, which featured multiple performers. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2004 01:46:18 +0200 From: Emiliano Subject: Diana Krall in Madrid Hi, folks! From yesterday (or so) El Pais' review of DK's concert to the press: "Correct rendition of Joni Mitchell's Black Crow". More interesting is the weekend's special interview: of course after remarking the Covers in her The Girl In The Room Hey, Temptation, Bob! Goes on... >>Music isn't the only universe in wich DK centers her life (sic)[...] "-- So what if clothes give me crazy? I go mad about them, and I've said many times that is fundamental in my career, since I knew Natalie Cole [she feels obliged to say she's the daughter of great Nat King, kind girl Diana] in a dressing room." But now she's relaxing this trend, she says. "--I don't care so much, anymore. Now my model is Joni Mitchell, who with 60 years shows one can be great [Wally, how to translate "estar estupenda"?] and never have been slave to the fashion" hmmm, don't trust much in this two-side translation, eh? Peace & Joni! Emiliano NP: Carey, The Troubadour, LA, '72; thanks, D! btw, what a slow show ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 18:11:52 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: big yellow taxi >It seems like kids growing up in the 80's and the 90's (on the Whole, based on what I have seen) have grown up in this "throw away society."< In some sense this is may be true as things took a materialistic turn during these decades imo... But I know my son had quite a bit of environmental/conservation education when he was in elementary school... Then again this is california... Kate www.katebennett.com "bringing the melancholy world of twilight to life almost like magic" The All Music Guide ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 21:34:34 -0800 (PST) From: Deb Subject: listening to Joni when sad Hi, Taking a little poll here. When you are depressed do you find Joni to be helpful or makes you go deeper into your depression? I have found that listening to the demo *It's all over now, Baby Blue*, her Dylan cover to just make those tears fall and fall. Also, when I listen to Amelia, I just want to disappear. I guess I am best off listening to Joni when I am not soo depressed but just a little melancholy. Oh, and Man from Mars, I don't care if it is about a cat, it is unbearable. Debi - one big boo hoo **************************** It's all a dream, She has awoke- Joni Mitchell **************************** Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway - Enter today ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 22:41:02 -0800 (PST) From: Susan Guzzi Subject: Re: listening to Joni when sad Well I find that Joni's music - iparticularly in mine and her early years - to be a place to press my cheek to - when depressed. So did she add to it or allow me to be sad and even sadder? Yes to some degree - but this I believe was in order to let find my bottom and feel safe and comfort myself in that melancholy. It also made me feel not soo alone. Becasue of all the beauty in her words and voice and touch - it gave me some hope and strength for my situation. As I have said from the start here she is my artistic mother and I have found her to take me down yes but to also nurture me and I do wonder - what would I have done or been without her touch on my life - especially in my teen angst? So I guess my answer Deb - is she does both - but with a good resolve. As an adult and now an older adult I can better analyze her impression on me and use her as I see fit. Hell yeah she has helped to complete me - she is in my blood like holy wine! And for all her words of sadness - she sure has come in handy in romancing a new love too! Peace, Susan Deb wrote: Hi, Taking a little poll here. When you are depressed do you find Joni to be helpful or makes you go deeper into your depression? Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway - Enter today ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2004 02:05:24 -0500 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Library Links: April 3 On April 3 the following articles were published: 1988: "A Chalk Talk with Joni Mitchell" - San Diego Union-Tribune (Interview, with photographs) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=319 1997: "Exclusive: Joni finds her long-lost child" - Daily Express (Reunion Story) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=76 1997: "Joni Mitchell Finds Daughter" - E! Online (Reunion Story) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=714 1997: "Joni Mitchell finds her long-lost child" - Electronic Telegraph (Reunion Story) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=74 1997: "Mitchell Locates Child" - Saskatoon StarPhoenix (Reunion Story) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=818 1997: "Singer Finds Long-Lost Daughter" - Associated Press (Reunion Story) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=75 2000: "Joni Mitchell Plans Orchestra-Backed Tour" - Live! Daily Website (News Item) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=483 ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2004 #92 ******************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)