From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2004 #90 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Thursday, April 1 2004 Volume 2004 : Number 090 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Happy Birthday Michael Paz ["don whiteman" ] Joni Mitchell statue fund [AsharaJM@aol.com] Re: Happy Birthday Michael Paz [Steve Polifka ] Re: [NortheastJonifest] drumroll please....Happy Birthday Michael Paz!! [] What is a "wilderland"? ["anon anon" ] [none] ["Timothy Spong" ] Re: What is a "wilderland"? [Mike Friedman ] What is a "wilderland"? ["Kate Bennett" ] Joni Covers 51 - Fifty-One is Nifty Fun! [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] wilderland ["jlobello" ] RE: wilderland ["Richard Flynn" ] Re: wilderland ["jlobello" ] Re: What is a "wilderland"? [Neil Orts ] Today's Library Links: April 1 [ljirvin@jmdl.com] Re: words we usually mispronounce - and pet peeves about speech N JC ["Ro] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 19:50:52 +1000 From: "don whiteman" Subject: Happy Birthday Michael Paz Hi Michael, Hope that you have a great day Happy bithday man from downunder Don Sydney Australia ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 08:54:42 EST From: AsharaJM@aol.com Subject: Joni Mitchell statue fund I don't know how many people actually donated to this fund, but after several attempts over many months to Sarah to see how it was going, and getting no response, I finally heard from her. She is returning the donations because she was not able to make headway with this. Thought you all might like to know. Hugs, Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 08:09:20 -0600 From: Steve Polifka Subject: Re: Happy Birthday Michael Paz Paz you Beeeeiitch! I had you on the phone and you didn't tell me you were peeling another layer of skin off of your crusty old hide??? What is it now, 35 again??? Just think of the spanking you're going to get this August in the Catskills!!! :-P Steve p.s. Hope your Birthday was a good one... At 07:50 PM 3/31/2004 +1000, don whiteman wrote: >Hi Michael, > >Hope that you have a great day > >Happy bithday man from downunder > >Don >Sydney >Australia ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 09:12:52 EST From: Bobsart48@aol.com Subject: Re: Interesting "Canadian" page ? richard asked: "Is there a singles discography? I can't find one on JMDL.COM or JONIMITCHELL.COM" I recall seeing one at the back of the Hinton biography, which I cannot seem to locate at this moment. (Thus, I could be wrong). Bobsart ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 09:36:39 -0500 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: Singles discography [was RE: Interesting "Canadian" page ?] There is a singles discography in the back of trhe dreadful Hinton book and also one at the back of the ho-hum O'Brien book. Both of them list mostly the UK singals. (Are these the same for US? It would be interesting to know.) - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]On Behalf Of Bobsart48@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 9:13 AM To: rflynn@frontiernet.net; nyro_in_detroit@sbcglobal.net Cc: joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Interesting "Canadian" page ? richard asked: "Is there a singles discography? I can't find one on JMDL.COM or JONIMITCHELL.COM" I recall seeing one at the back of the Hinton biography, which I cannot seem to locate at this moment. (Thus, I could be wrong). Bobsart ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 09:49:56 -0600 From: "Donna Binkley" Subject: Re: [NortheastJonifest] drumroll please....Happy Birthday Michael Paz!! Happy Birthday Paz-ma-taz, Pazmania, Paz-man!!! It's 9:47 a.m. where I am so i'll have a cyber martini in yer honor (can't have a real one right now)!! Hope you had a great birthday. Love, Tex >>> jrgoodspeed@yahoo.com 3/30/2004 4:50:33 PM >>> Alas, the birthday fairy I am not... But please join me in wishing Michael Paz -- a great friend, super-talented musician, and all around amazing human being -- a big fat Happy Birthday!!! A toast to you this evening... Jenny Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. This message has been scanned by the E250. This message has been scanned by the E250. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 17:08:19 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: Joni blowing my mind again Hi Donna, I was listening to so many...I started with Court and Spark, Hissing, Turbulent Indigo and ended with Shadows and Light. I think I was most touched by the Shadows and Light version of "Amelia". Sherelle >From: "Donna Binkley" >To: , >Subject: Re: Joni blowing my mind again >Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 15:08:47 -0600 > > >>even if I have to stand on a street corner, I must sing. > >Sherelle, you didn't say which song/album you were listening too. >Could the song be "For Free"?? > >And if so which version? > >db > _________________________________________________________________ Find a broadband plan that fits. Great local deals on high-speed Internet access. https://broadband.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-us/go/onm00200360ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 20:19:10 +0200 From: "ron" Subject: Re: hi >>>>>>>don wrote >>>>>> Hoping to buy myself a Little Martin Guitar as a baby traveling companion whilst in LA. ah, c'mon - you should be taking maton guitars to the rest of the world instead :-) just kidding - i had a chance recently to try out a maton performer series acoustic a while ago, & that funny wood (bunya!!!!) they use certainly looks really good, & sounds great. i was really surprised to find out theyve been around for nearly 60 years now. never heard of them anywhere before, but they are (or at least the one i tried is) wonderful instruments which deserve to be more successful. www.maton.com.au ron np - patti smith - gone again ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 14:21:42 EST From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: [NortheastJonifest] drumroll please....Happy Birthday Michael Paz!! Hope you had a wonderful Birthday Michael, although I know you have a massive headache today!!! LOL much love, rosie ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 19:40:44 -0500 From: "anon anon" Subject: What is a "wilderland"? Speaking of "Clouds",What exactly is a wilderland? _________________________________________________________________ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee. Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2004 00:54:06 +0000 From: "Timothy Spong" Subject: [none] On Tue, 30 Mar 2004 Jenny Goodspeed wrote (on Subject: drumroll please....Happy Birthday Michael Paz!!) Alas, the birthday fairy I am not... But please join me in wishing Michael Paz -- a great friend, super-talented musician, and all around amazing human being -- a big fat Happy Birthday!!! A toast to you this evening... Jenny Happy birthday from me, too, Paz, even if it's now past. No April foolin'! Tim Spong Dover, Del., U.S.A. _________________________________________________________________ Get rid of annoying pop-up ads with the new MSN Toolbar  FREE! http://toolbar.msn.com/go/onm00200414ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 17:33:52 -0800 From: Mike Friedman Subject: Re: What is a "wilderland"? I always took it to mean wilderness.....It's a term that Tolkein used in The Hobbit. On Mar 31, 2004, at 4:40 PM, anon anon wrote: > Speaking of "Clouds",What exactly is a wilderland? > > _________________________________________________________________ > Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from > McAfee. Security. > http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 > > ==================================================== "I'm porous with travel fever, but you know I'm so glad to be on my own. Still somehow the slightest touch of a stranger can set up trembling in my bones. I know, no one's gonna show me everything, we all come and go alone. Each so deep and superficial, between the forceps and the stone." - --Joni Mitchell, "Hejira", 1976 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 18:13:22 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: What is a "wilderland"? >Speaking of "Clouds",What exactly is a wilderland?< Where the wildebeasts roam? Kate www.katebennett.com "bringing the melancholy world of twilight to life almost like magic" The All Music Guide ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 22:39:02 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Joni Covers 51 - Fifty-One is Nifty Fun! Well, March may be over, but the march of Joni covers is far from done. And April showers us with yet another original collection of recordings from folks around the world, all celebrating our favorite composer. As is my custom, first things first...thanks to these wonderful folks who contributed recordings: Russ 'Coco Nutz' Bowden Susan Moss Laurent Olszer Thierry Antoine Dennis Weston Well, let's crank up the old victrola and give it a spin, shall we? 1. Big & Little Choruses, M.H. Stanley Intermediate School - Dreamland: This is a cover of the Roger McGuinn cover, hence the glut of wah-wah guitar and the "Errol Flynn" sarong. Gotta love it. 2. Silvio Cipriani Orchestra - Both Sides Now: This one answers the musical question "what would BSN sound like if it had been used as the theme song for The Munsters?" 3. David Frizzell - A Case Of You: Another oddball. I remember David from his country duets with Dottie West, so this one really comes off as a bizarre choice for a cowboy type, but he deletes the opening verse about that sissy country Canada so he still retains his machismo. 4. Jade - Big Yellow Taxi: A late 60's pop-folk-psych version from the UK, fortunately re-released last year on cd, so I didn't have to chase it down quite as hard. 5. MPE Band - Twisted: A really fun take on the Ross-Gray classic, check out the subliminal backing vocals for bonus yucks. And all the more fun as it's never been released by the band, another Joni-cover exclusive! 6. Cris Williamson/Holly Near - The Tea Leaf Prophecy (Lay Down Your Arms): I've said a lot about this one already, I'll simply add that this cover has brought me to a deeper appreciation of the song. 7. Vince Hill - Both Sides Now: Not to be confused with Vince Gill, who's married to Amy Grant, who recorded BYT a while ago. I would have sworn this was Anthony Newley if I didn't know better. 8. Rudy Linka - California: This Polish jazz trio turns in an ace knockout instrumental of a Joni song that hasn't gotten it's fair coverage yet, probably because its so darn hard to sing. 9. Yoghill - Harry's House 10. Yoghill - The Silky Veils of Ardor: Yoghill is really a French singer/songwriter (and JMDL'er) by the name of Theirry Antoine. He is insanely talented, and sings, plays all the instruments and produced these recordings. And as you can see, he has a preference to going off the beaten path to record some of Joni's lesser-covered stuff. We'll be hearing more from him on future volumes too! 11. Patty Weaver - Both Sides Now: I like this one; Patty's got a dynamo Broadway kind of voice, and she does enough unique things with the vocal arrangement to make her take on the franchise swing. 12. The Kids Pick Singers - Big Yellow Taxi: The downside to the Counting Crows BYT is that its starting to spawn a host of these "kids" recordings of their cover. Covers of covers of covers - yikes! Hey, at least Joni's reaping the benefits. 13. Steve Lacy - Goodbye Pork Pie Hat: Steve's a soprano saxman from way back, he's into his 6th decade of recording. This is a very mellow and oh so fine live recording, a duet that also features Eric Watson playing piano. 14. Tribe - Urge For Going: This one is very pretty, the vocalist reminds me a bit of Greg Lake, his voice has that warmth to it. And the vocal is surrounded by a variety of acoustic instruments. More great Joni music from France. 15. Ed Bruce - Both Sides Now: See #3 above...Ed is a country-western guy, and he definitely puts that spin on his BSN. Make me wanna smoke a Marlboro and put on a bandana. 16. Doris Hardoon - Conversation: A lovely and very true-to-the-original version of the LOTC classic, Doris is an Asian folk artist, but you'd never know it by her vocal which is very pure sounding. She's also very easy on the eyes, but you'd never know that unless I left one of the o's out of her last name. 17. The Bates College Merimanders - Big Yellow Taxi: Yawn. C'mon you guys, it's supposed to be fun...put some pep into it! And what the hell is a Merimander anyway? Sounds too much like salamander to me. 18. Azure McCall - Hissin' Summer Lawns: Ahhh, this one's more like it. Lovely lovely hawaaian jazz, also very true to the original but when the original is so fine, that's a lofty compliment indeed. 19. Mandy Moore - Help Me: And this one's in the same category...Mandy's mssion was to introduce some great songs and great songwriters to her generation, so my hat's off to her. Hey, she did an XTC cover too. She basically sticks to Joni's version, with just a slightly updated sound. 20. Titti Breitholtz - Both Sides Now: This one's OK. I can't help but think though that if she had Doris' last name, Titti Hardoon sounds like a good name for a James Bond girl. 21. Susuma Yokota - Kodomotachi: A bonus track. I don't really count this one as a Joni cover, but it's cool in it's own right. It's an electronic-ambient thing, featuring a Japanese voice chanting "songs to aging children come" over the flowing music. Zen Joni! Well, 21 tracks is plenty, I'd better stop now so I'll have more goodies for May. If you're interested in getting a copy of this (or any) volume in what's been called (by me) the GREATEST COMPILATION IN ROCK AND ROLL HISTORY, just drop me a line and we'll work it out. Until next month, be cool and keep those Joni covers playing! Bob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 22:54:06 -0500 From: "jlobello" Subject: wilderland I guess its equals "wilderness" but sounds better in the context of the song. It drives me out of this world the way she delivers it in I think I Understand. I like that word a lot--but it may not be a word. Jono ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 23:21:39 -0500 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: wilderland It's definitely Tolkien. Just as Gandalf Music is Tolkien. Here's a map of Wilderland from Tolkien Depot: http://tolkiendepot.com/wilderland.shtml - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]On Behalf Of jlobello Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 10:54 PM To: joni@smoe.org; icnh@hotmail.com Subject: wilderland I guess its equals "wilderness" but sounds better in the context of the song. It drives me out of this world the way she delivers it in I think I Understand. I like that word a lot--but it may not be a word. Jono ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 00:12:29 -0500 From: "jlobello" Subject: Re: wilderland Yeah Rich, she definitely likes Tolkien. I wonder if she liked the movies? jono - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Flynn" To: "jlobello" ; ; Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 11:21 PM Subject: RE: wilderland > It's definitely Tolkien. Just as Gandalf Music is Tolkien. > > Here's a map of Wilderland from Tolkien Depot: > > http://tolkiendepot.com/wilderland.shtml > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]On Behalf Of > jlobello > Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 10:54 PM > To: joni@smoe.org; icnh@hotmail.com > Subject: wilderland > > > I guess its equals "wilderness" but sounds better in the context of the > song. > It drives me out of this world the way she delivers it in I think I > Understand. I like that word a lot--but it may not be a word. > Jono ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 21:21:55 -0800 (PST) From: Neil Orts Subject: Re: What is a "wilderland"? It's a wilderness that rhymes with "sinking sand." - --- anon anon wrote: > Speaking of "Clouds",What exactly is a > wilderland? > > ===== Neil Ellis Orts 713-838-1787 Houston, TX keep up with my creative endeavors--join my newsletter list: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/neonews ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2004 02:07:01 -0500 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Library Links: April 1 On April 1 the following articles were published: 2003: "Exploring Joni Mitchell's heart, mind" - Washington Times (Review - Documentary) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=1072 2003: "'Heart and Mind': both sides, now" - Long Beach Press Telegram (Review - Documentary) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=1074 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 08:35:47 +0100 From: "Ross, Les" Subject: Re: words we usually mispronounce - and pet peeves about speech N JC In recent years i've noticed that instead of saying 'should have' or 'would have', people are saying 'should of' or 'would of'! I've even seen this in print in the newspapers and in novels. It got to the point, because I'm far from bullish about my aptitude with the english language, where I wondered if this particular corruption was 'correct'. I wondered if maybe I'd missed or 'vagued out' the english class wherein the verb 'to of' was accounted for in its usage. For a while I thought that the institution the French have to protect their language from deterioration caused by the adoption of non-french words and slang was preposterous. Thinking, "'for god's sake, language is an evolving form, culture is not static, get over yourselves!" Now I'm not so sure. On a related matter, I recently employed someone to work on a team I have here on this project. I happened to overhear the conversation he was having with someone over the phone. His words were nearly all incomplete, reduced marvellously to monosyllables, and his sentences were strung with 'know wot ah mean' and 'innit' and 'like' to the extent that little could be understood about the subject of his exchange. And this last is critical, sure it's fine if you can understand what is being said, however disloyal it may be to the finer points of language usage, but, along with all the other lazy, lowest-common-denominator concessions to which we are given or are expected to tolerate, the consequence is this grunting, idiotic and incomprehensible 'patois'. Oh, what an achievement! Les ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2004 #90 ******************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)