From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2004 #52 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Monday, February 23 2004 Volume 2004 : Number 052 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: interrupting my sorrow [AsharaJM@aol.com] Maria Muldaur, Wendy Waldman - and Joni? [AzeemAK@aol.com] Re: Love of my soul: beyond lyrics [AsharaJM@aol.com] New Orleans or Roatan or Cancun [TinkersOwn@aol.com] Beef? ["jlobello" ] Re: New Orleans or Roatan or Cancun [Catgirl ] Re: Two Grey Rooms [Bobsart48@aol.com] Clouds ["jlobello" ] Today's Library Links: February 23 [ljirvin@jmdl.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 13:38:33 EST From: AsharaJM@aol.com Subject: Re: interrupting my sorrow Hell, Your analysis of Don't Interrupt the Sorrow is nothing short of BRILLIANT. Thank you for this, and all other JMDLers that interpret Joni's words. Coming from a "music over lyrics" background, (yeah, yeah, Maggie) I am always facinated by these interpretations, and appreciate them very much! Thanks everyone!! Hugs, Ashara {breaking a record for posting twice in one day!} ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 13:48:59 EST From: AzeemAK@aol.com Subject: Maria Muldaur, Wendy Waldman - and Joni? Me again. And I think this just about counts as JC. I've been listening to Maria's self-titled album (which I love, love, love); as it's on scratchy vinyl, I don't listen to it very often, and when it got to the last song, Mad Mad Me, I suddenly had a jolt - was I listening to a Joni cover that had nestled unnoticed in my collection? Does anyone else know this song, and can anyone tell me which Joni song it reminds me of? I just can't put my finger on it! It's written by Wendy Waldman, about whom I know precisely nothing. In any case, I heartily recommend the album to one and all - Maria's voice is sly, sexy, slinky, supple and other words that don't begin with 's'. Beautiful covers of Dolly Parton, Mac Rebennack and the McGarrigles, wonderful arrangements, superb musicianship, and Amos Garrett's imperishable guitar solo on Midnight At The Oasis. What's not to like? Azeem in London ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 19:40:04 EST From: AsharaJM@aol.com Subject: Re: Love of my soul: beyond lyrics pandora54@ig.com.br wrote: <> YAY!!!!!!!!!! Welcome, and glad there are others that had no idea about the words!!!!!! Wait a minute.........English is my first language. Uh.......I have no excuse......... Uh..........nevermind. Welcome, anyway!!!!! :-) Hugs, Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 19:40:06 EST From: TinkersOwn@aol.com Subject: New Orleans or Roatan or Cancun Catgirl wrote: >I think we should do BOTH of them. I have always wanted to go to >Hunduras and I have never been to Mexico. >So, let's plan the one to your native homeland in 2005 >and then the following year to Mexico. This sounds good to the Dulsons. Hmmm...is flying with instruments (especially acoustic ones) going to be a concern? Steve ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 20:48:22 -0500 From: "jlobello" Subject: Beef? Colin, The point is that too many resources are spent fatting up cattle in feed lots here in the states when the same resources (land, fertilizer, water) could be used to feed the hungry in third world nations. Beef consumption is heavily pushed over here by commercial interests. If American could cut their meat consumption down by a half (or better yet, to a quarter) of what they now consume it would lower the demand for beef and therefore lower the need to put so many resources into this industry. And, Americans would be a far healthier people for it. You are right about dogs. Dogs are carnivores. They are not equipped to handle carbohydrates. Humans are omnivores meaning we can survive on just about anything we eat. Total vegetarianism is a hard balancing act to follow. When I tried it several years ago I got booted out of a vegan household (it's a funny story, I'll tell you latter). I am not a vegetarian, but I probably eat only about 1/8 the meat that regular American eat. I usually eat fish, chicken, occasionally pork and very rarely beef (but sometimes a nice charcoal broiled rib-eye steak sure taste good ). I eat lots of oatmeal, and brown rice, (both are complex carbohydrates) beans and lots of veggies and fruit. This time of year I eat lots of citrus with tangerines topping the list (they are quite cheap and plentiful here). I cook with plenty of olive oil. I guess you could say I adhere to a Mediterranean diet (see attached food pyramid). And, daily exercise is import here too. I don't know if you caught it on earlier postings by me, but I am a fisherman, and I also hunt birds (grouse, woodcock and turkeys)and small game (rabbits and squirrels). I suppose I could hunt deer if I liked venison, but I don't care for it all that much, so why should I expend the effort? I have no interest whatsoever in hunting bear. It would be like shooting the neighbor's dog. On the same token I could never shoot a wolf or coyote. Only if I was on their menu would I be forced to defend myself. Anyway, I ran out of steam and need to think about this a little more. Jono ----- Original Message ----- From: colin To: jlobello Cc: joni@smoe.org Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 4:35 AM Subject: Re: Us njc jlobello wrote: >All, >We need to consume much less here in the States (which is a good argument to >become total vegetarian). you make some good points. However, humans are not meant o be vegetarian. Truse, many do well on a such a diet. many of us don't. I was a veggy for many years. During that time I had all sorts of health problems, -bloat, fatigue, stomach acid, constant trots, excess weight. A year ago I stopped. I only eat ,meat and veg,(no starchy ones) some fruit, no grains. All the above problems have gone. Many people have experienced the same. I was a veggy for so long, and ill for so long, because I ddin't follow my own gut but allowed myself to be guilt tripped into it. Regardless of weight issues, human beings bodies are not made to withstand eating the amount of carbs eaten on a veg diet(nor the amount eaten by ordinary junk food diets), hence the rise in diabetes, heart diseases and cancers. The same rise has been seen in dogs in the same time frame too-dogs have been fed processed high carb junk for decades. My own are now fed the way dogs are biologically equipped to eat-maet and bones and a little of the green stuff. Pretty much the same as me, cept mine is cooked! I agree much needs to be done about the way animals are farmed and killed. Just becasue we lack in that area does not make the eating of animals wrong or inappropriate. We are designed, biologically, to eat that way, I for one know that given the situation, I could kill an animal to feed myself and loved ones. - -- bw colin http://www.btinternet.com/~tantraapso/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 21:03:58 -0800 (PST) From: Catgirl Subject: Re: New Orleans or Roatan or Cancun We will need to find out. So Michael, when are we going to have this Shing- Dig again. I think a winter Joni Fest in a warm climate is just what the Doctor ordered and who knows she might actually show up at a hot spot..whoo-hoo! Debi...starting to pack now! TinkersOwn@aol.com wrote: Catgirl wrote: >I think we should do BOTH of them. I have always wanted to go to >Hunduras and I have never been to Mexico. >So, let's plan the one to your native homeland in 2005 >and then the following year to Mexico. This sounds good to the Dulsons. Hmmm...is flying with instruments (especially acoustic ones) going to be a concern? Steve *It's all a dream, she has awoke* Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard - Read only the mail you want. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2004 00:51:35 EST From: Bobsart48@aol.com Subject: Re: Two Grey Rooms Hi, folks. I am now only 1 week behind on my posts. So, this old topic has probably been clarified by. However, I recall clearly that Joni described the Two Grey Rooms story as having come from a short story, which was one of a gay man - an aristocrat of sorts - leaving his house to take a room where he could anonymously view his ex-lover walking by. Sad story, beautiful song. Bobsart ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2004 00:56:08 -0500 From: "jlobello" Subject: Clouds All, A few weeks ago I bought both Clouds and STAS. STAS blew me away immediately. At the time I said that Clouds seemed "darker" to me. I have since listened to it several times and here are my three top choices besides Chelsea Morning (which is the brightest song on the album) and Both Side Now which is ubiquitous (universal). 1. That Song About The Midway 2. The Gallery and 3. I Don't Know Where I Stand. Oh, and 4. I Think I Understand. Of course, I'll be listening to it somemore and gain a better understanding of all the songs. I was just reading from one of the articles in the Cafe that the album jacket of Clouds shows the Saskatchewan River(?--I suppose), and depicts a local hotel in Saskatoon(?). Anyone know the name of that hotel? Sometime this summer I intend to drive up there just to see what kind of country this incredible woman grew up in. Jono ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2004 02:28:32 -0500 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Library Links: February 23 On February 23 the following articles were published: 1974: "Live Sounds" - Sounds (Review - Concert) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=348 1995: "Reaffirming the Partnership" - Canadian Parliament (Opinion) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=664 2002: "Canada's Reckless Daughter" - Ottawa Citizen (Biography) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=752 - -------- Can you type? http://www.jmdl.com/typing/ ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2004 #52 ******************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)