From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2004 #36 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Saturday, February 7 2004 Volume 2004 : Number 036 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- re: the Standard Surprises review [cul ] digest 61 ["Paul Mepschen" ] RE: Invitation ["Bree Mcdonough" ] Re: ISO TNT tribute [Cags ] FRT ["jlobello" ] 1963 ["jlobello" ] Re: Covers #49 - almost to the half-century mark! [Emiliano ] Re: Joni Invitations [Bobsart48@aol.com] Dylan ["jlobello" ] Calgary ["jlobello" ] Re: 1963 [cul ] Re: 1963, or later 1965? [cul ] RE: Invitation ["Kate Bennett" ] Today's Library Links: February 7 [ljirvin@jmdl.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2004 04:59:50 -0500 From: cul Subject: re: the Standard Surprises review Sometimes when I read review lines about Mitchell such as: "Longtime followers will be intrigued by the fact that Mitchell included two of her own classics, "A Case Of You" and "Both Sides Now." But to what end? The latter is motionless. The former, once one of the most movingly tense pieces in recorded history, here meanders. Like most everything else on the record, it ends up heartbreaking for all the wrong reasons." ...I simply cannot fathom the perspective from which they are listening. How can someone regard that rendition of BSN to be "motionless". I grant that the harmonic tensions provide a huge sense of lift and hovering as it were, but they paint a perfect sense of the sensation of somewhat sadly looking back at the clouds you are moving upward through as one might while shedding their mortal coil and describe the motion of clouds themselves. I found the remake intensely profound to the point that I wept. It was as though Mitchell was taking one last look before departing for regions unknown. In fact, it made me feel how it might be to someday I hear the news report that she had died. I wept at that thought and feeling. Motionless? I don't think so, pal. And I equally do not understand the reviewers use of the word "meandering" in respect to "A Case of You". Certainly Mitchell "plays" with the phrasing and so-on compared to the original...but that's life...things evolve...and besides, she has earned the right to "meander" if she so wants. Its as though the reviewer had some sort of road map about the tune which Mitchell should have followed or something. Da noive! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 11:37:21 +0100 From: "Paul Mepschen" Subject: digest 61 hi --s orryf or this, but can someone forward digest 61 to me -- didn't receive it. paul ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2004 12:35:48 -0500 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: RE: Invitation Steve this was Great!! Who knows her address? WE got to get this to her. I really think she would come or at least consider if asked. "Dreamland coming on .......dreamland"...... Bree >From: Steve Polifka >Reply-To: Steve Polifka >To: joni@smoe.org >CC: jlobello@famvid.com >Subject: Invitation >Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2004 10:32:09 -0600 > >Well, I was in a very Dr.Suess mood today. With all this talk about >invitations, I thought I'd write my own... > >Dear Ms Mitchell, > >What might you doing >In August, this summer >Are you free- would you be >Willing, I wonder? >For a three-day swaree >In such a quiet resort >Quite rustic and quaint >In the Catskills of New York > >I have a few friends >You might like to meet >They're hopeful and daring >And quite light on their feet >Some bring chocolates or cheese >From all over the world >There are men and women, >Boys and some girls >Some are lawyers and bankers >And writers and moms >And singers and teachers >But no peeping Toms > >We're having a party >Wild, yet sublime >The food is healthy and hearty >A fascinating good time >There's music and singing >And talk through the night >With laughing and hugging >Such a wonderful sight >There's hiking and biking >And swimming and such >Or billiards or raffles >After a fabulous lunch >Relaxing and lounging >In the New York sun >With all these good things >What could be more fun? > >(Okay, okay, I could think of a few things but >this is just an invitation) ;-) > >You could come for a day >You might show up for an hour >Why not picnic with friends >On the grass and wildflowers? >Don't look at your date book >At the coming summer months >"Just get up here and party, Girlfriend!" >If I may be so blunt >But if the schedule you see >Is too hard to clear >Remember we love you >There's always next year > >Your friend, >Steve _________________________________________________________________ Click here for a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 15:01:28 -0800 (PST) From: Cags Subject: Re: ISO TNT tribute Help me! I think I've lost my TNT Joni Tribute video when I get this crazy feeing I know I'm in trouble again I'm in trouble cause I'm a rambler and a gambler and a mess when it comes to moving the cardboard boxes... I had a copy of it, I'm sure I did. I just can't find it anywhere and I fear it was lost in the last move & I really need to see Diana Krall sing Case of You again soon... Does anyone have a copy they could dub? I'd gladly send a VHS tape or a DVD and a SASE, or trade for whatever Joni boots I have that interest ya. Thanks, Gregg NP: Jack Williams "Oh Mama Lou" +;%+;'+;%+;'+;%+;'+;'+;%+;'+; Gregg Cagno greggno@pobox.com www.greggcagno.com +;%+;'+;%+;'+;%+;'+;'+;%+;'+; "i cannot and will not cut my conscience to fit this year's fashions." -lillian hellman Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 20:52:56 -0500 From: "jlobello" Subject: FRT To all All right already. I'm pretty dense. But it won't be the first time I embarrass myself on this list. FRT= For The Roses. It came to me as I was freezing my tail off out on Teal Lake this afternoon trying to catch a perch or two. More after I read #62 Jono ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 21:01:49 -0500 From: "jlobello" Subject: 1963 Cul, I was 11 in '63. Where the heck did you heard Joni at? She was only 19 or 20 at the time. Did yoy sneak into the Depression in Edmonton? Are you from Edmonton? Jono ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2004 03:09:49 +0100 From: Emiliano Subject: Re: Covers #49 - almost to the half-century mark! Hi, folks! As you know, I gladly won the Joni & Neil poll, demostrating I'm doing well my first course in JMDL college, colegas! Dear Bob sent this piece of Joy to me, and I'm in the mood tonight... so you can delete right now, or later, or just read: Thanks folks! We're having a Wonderful time! On 2 Feb 2004 at 11:20, SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: > 49 reasons...all in a line... All of them good ones, most of them true... > > Well, I could probably list 49 reasons why Covers #49 is so > cool, but I'll hold off. Well, I'll try: It's real, it's pleasure for you, it will make you laugh, will make U cry, it's Joni Music, food for the soul, to the bone, from the guts, full of heart, next to your skin, it's a chilly, sunny day, sea wind in your face, good to travel, sounds very good in my car, it'll light your night, make you wonder, causes surprise, there's a river, and a flight, conversations flow, it's Joni?, it's oh!, it's funny, it's OMG, it's BSN, it's BSN, it's BSN, it's BSN, it's Both Sides Now, it circles, and spins, it's dizzy, it's a scheme, you can dream, has variety, for boys, for girls, for baby and granma, for all the good people, by the ocean, in the earth, in Mars are asking copies, in Arkansas too, it has TBOBW, ACOY, Blue, TCG, TFT, Woodstock, GPPH, FATD, MFM, MM, Little Green too, Citizen Helene, Danilo, Hajime, Harry Belafonte, it's a statement of Life! I will however thank my uber-helper > John van Tiel for his contributions and help with this one. For those who haven't been at JoniFest, I'll inform you: Good John really is a Wunderkind for years and years to come! In fact is younger than Dylan, believe me! ;-) > Lots of fun & nice selections this time 'round, and here's > what's on it: > > 1. Catherine Moon - The Beat Of Black Wings: Finding a CMIARS > cover is always a nice surprise, and even better when it's my > favorite track from that record and better still when it's a > nice version. Catherine is an indie from NJ. Yeah it's good: the rhythm and effects... very achieved. > > 2. The End Phenomena - Both Sides Now: This is the one that > I've already mentioned, Emile Pandolfi & his UK combo from > 1970 or so. Among my weeknesses surely they are those tiklin tiklin pianos... Perfect for setting the table at dinner: "don't forget the long tall glasses, dear". BTW, this combo's name is risque', don't you? > > 3. Matthew Kern - A Case Of You: A lovely instrumental version. Yes, five minutes of piano pleasure, George Winston style (more simple, more "song") > > 4. Hajime Chitose - Blue: I don't suppose many of you will > care for this one but it totally enthralls me. The acoustic > guitar is beautiful and she uses her voice like a bamboo flute, > with a fluttering that is jarring at first but rewards repeated > listenings. Humm, thanks for the advice, I would think my stereo was chewing the tape :-) seriously, it's very well, but Blue... it's such a Historical Mark... anyway, Hajime's approach is True > > 5. Michel Clement & His Orchestra - The Circle Game: Muzaky > version from a movie soundtrack compilation. yes, that trumpets!, skip! > > 6. Maria Joao & Mario Laghina - Both Sides Now: Love this one, > they are Portuguese and this version has a nice samba swing > to it. Yeah, it's a love, a very enthusiastic (in both senses) Both Sides Now, Dear MaryJohn surely loves Fairport Convention, too! > > 7. Bill Hurley - (You're So Square)Baby, I Don't Care: Fairly > straightforward Elvis dupe, except for the echo vocals which > sound like a ribbiting frog! Bay-buh Bay-buh! Well, Bob, your comments are high, high, high > > 8. Nazareth - This Flight Tonight: The classic version of > Nazareth's cover was from 1973's "Loud & Proud". For whatever > reason, they recorded it again in 1991 and released this > alternative version on "No Jive". Oh, the only hard rock band I've listened (eons ago) it's Led Zep, it's nice to remember those agggh voices > > 9. Sheena Easton - Raised On Robbery: Taken from her concert > video, Miss "Sugar Walls" herself turns in a rockin' take. To me, it's worst than muzak, sorry > > 10. Harry Belafonte - Both Sides Now: This recording was also > taken from video, though it was not a Harry video, it was > Petula Clark's TV special - famously controversial in its > day (1968) because Harry (a black man) & Pet (a white woman) > HELD HANDS while they sang a duet! The horror! I'm sure that > my Mom saw this special since she had the hots for Harry. Well, I'm a man (at least most of the times), but with his voice I think I have the hots for Harry, too (love your alliterations, americanos). It's a pity Nat King Cole didn't recorded it (no, Natalie isn't the same). Hey, Bob, did someone throw a plate at the end of the song? > > 11. De Kast & Venice - Woodstock: A live version taken from a > concert in Hooland with about 100,000 folks in attandance! > Basically a cover of the CSNY version - very upbeat. Ufff, many thousands people... where's the bar? > > 12. Carolee Mayne - River: A Seattle vocalist who sings > primarily Christian music, Mayne contributed this cover to a > fundraiser CD. Here it at: > http://www.caroleemayne.com/con_mp3downloads.cfm Well done, Carolee (despite the drum machine) > > 13. Ralph Towner/Gary Burton - Goodbye Pork Pie Hat: I love > the combination of vibes and acoustic guitar, very relaxing, > and this is a lovely take of the Mingus melody. A true balm in *this* world. I must confess you could name it the way you like it, I wouldn't recognize it (and I know the Jansch & Renbourn version, but I'm very redneck / cazurro sometimes ) > > 14. Eric Miller & His Orchestra - Both Sides Now: For your > elevator-listening pleasure... Depending your humour, it's better than most of tv. (well, even watching wash machines go it's better than some shows) > > 15. Danilo Perez - Fiddle And The Drum: This is hot off the > presses, just came out last year. Danilo is a wonderful jazz > pianist from Panama, this track features Lizz Wright on vocals. Mmm > Mmm good! It's a Must. It's classical. Note: they only sing first and last stanzas, and substitute the I for Us. > > 16. Cindy Keller Wittenberg & Tracy Dietrich - Michael From > Mountains: A flute & piano duo from Pennsylvania. Very pretty, > as you would imagine. Hear a sample: > http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/wittenberg yes, a good song; it's Tracy the flute player? She was having tea at that moment, I think. > > 17. Tricia Lundeen - Morning Morgantown > 18. Tricia Lundeed - The Circle Game: Trish is from Minnesota, > don't know much more than that, except to say that these are > from her mid-seventies LP and she has a very nice voice! Yes, very nice voice, maybe some slow de trop: one touch of loosing herself 'a la Janis would make a great achievement. > > 19. Citizen Helene - Little Green: A live version from her > 2002 EP, Helene is a Dutch singer. Hear this one at: > http://www.atease.org/citizenhelene/music.htm This lady rocks! and what a name! An award for her, please. > > 20. The Rainbeaux - Both Sides Now: Eaux my! Doesn't this > sound psychedelic? Too bad it bleauxs. Wow, another Both Sides Now !!!! > > And there you have it, another month, another tribute to the > finest composer of our lifetime! Sometimes weird, sometimes > wacky, sometimes wonderful, and always worth a spin! Just let > me know if you'd like a copy, and I'll make sure it happens. > Euros, contact Mr. van Tiel for your fix. Hey, Good Old Europe people, you can contact me, too! I'm waiting for Off The Covers... and I don't forget that [acousticharmonies] compilation... more post tomorrow! > And you'll be glad to know that Puxatawny Bob saw his shadow, > so that means at least 6 more volumes of covers! :~) btw, I love that Rob? Reiner movie! > > Bob > > NP: The Cure, "Purple Haze" Emiliano NP: Yvette In English, Edmonton, 1994 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 21:50:28 -0500 From: "jlobello" Subject: 1963, or later 1965? Cul, I know I too have trouble remembering dates back to the 50's, 60's and 70's and you are 3 years older than me, so please don't take offense, but..... Kelly Dale Anderson (Kilauren Gibb), Joni's daughter, was born in February of 1965 (she's an Aquarian like me). Joni Anderson did not meet Chuck Mitchell until after her daughter was in foster care in Toronto. They did not marry until later in 1965 (that was a mistake). Joni became pregnant in 1964 by her college boy friend (I wont mention names). Therefore, the only place you could have seen her perform in 1963 (but more likely in 1964) was possibly in Edmonton, Alberta at the "Depression". Look at the performance chronology dates on jonimitchell.com (see below). Now sometimes Wally (the creator of jonimitchell.com) didn't have everything down 100%, but he did a darn good job of getting as much reliable info as he possibly could. Jon 1961 (?) 00-00-61 CKBI-TV Prince Albert SK Canada Half-hour local television show based on an interview with Joni, plus her performance of a few unidentified songs. Dating of this program is uncertain-the producer thinks it could have been as early as 1959 or 1960! 1964 00-00-64 The Depression Calgary AL Canada 00-00-64 The Louis Riel Saskatoon SK Canada 1965 00-00-65 Bohemian Embassy Toronto ON Canada 00-00-65 The New Gate Of Cleve Toronto ON Canada 08-06-65 Mariposa Folk Festival Innis Lake ON Canada 11-04-65 The Chess Mate Detroit MI USA Nov. 4 thru Nov. 7 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 22:37:03 EST From: Bobsart48@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni Invitations Steve Polifka - as part of his Dr. Seuss invite, included "(Okay, okay, I could think of a few things but this is just an invitation) ;-)" Well, I have a simpler idea. Let's just send Joni a copy of DVD #2 from the 2003 Jonifest, featuring Claudia San Soucie singing and Steve Polifka playing The Banquet, note for note the equal of Joni's performance on FTR. If she doesn't show up after that .................... Bobsart (Of course, in addition to performing it, Joni also wrote the lyrics, the melody and the piano arrangement, but surely the flattery of the imitation - and the unmistakable love attached thereto - would not be lost on her) PS - I'm not kidding. Has someone sent Joni a set of the CD's, or perhaps a "highlights" DVD of some sort ? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 23:07:50 -0500 From: "jlobello" Subject: Dylan Dylan, Kate, the group, I agree with Kate. I know a lot of precocious kids like you. Shoot when = I was thirteen I could hardy read let alone write--so you're a lot = further ahead than I was--and more power to you. Don't let it get you down. It's too bad a few people latched onto your = age. There is a possible explanation of why they did further on in # 62 = . =20 And, beside if you're going to play with the "big dogs" expect to get = roughed up a little.=20 But, seriously, be prepared for a little teasing too--I'm sure it will = be all good natured. Speaking of being called an imposter.. I made a statement earlier today = that I might live to regret concerning my desire to study "aging = physiology" and life extension. I need to qualify that. I want to get my PH. D under a researcher (a professor) doing this work = (I know I'm a fish guy). But, I am also a molecular biologist (masters = degree) and have substantial training and experience in biochemistry = techniques. I grandfathered into Northern Michigan University's biology masters = program before they required the GRE because I have a fairly good = undergrad GPA (3.74). I have been hesitant to take the GRE because I = have dyslexia, but no documentation to prove it (in the late '50s and = early 60's Boards of Education never heard of it). The computer = formatted GRE has time limits, and I would be slaughtered because = sometimes I need to read a question 4 or 5 times before I can get the = meaning of it.=20 If I get tested for dyslexia and have the documentation the time limits = would be lifted, and then, I should be able to get a more competitive = score. So, when I get both those tests out of the way I will solicit a = professor and institution to take me on. Why a PH. D. at my age--there's = just too many things I want to do with my life--so I want to give myself = some extra time. An believe it or not the person who this discussion = list is all about is the inspiration for my doing so. Hey, does anyone know if the GRE is required in Canada ( Australia, or = NZ) for post graduate admission to provincial (or state) universities. Tomorrow is Michigan Democratic Caucus day, and I'm all signed up...., = but what the hell is a caucus!!!??? I was expecting a primary election, but no! I'm a center left Democrat, and I was for Clark. But, Kerry seems like = the best bet. Dennis Kusinich is an Ohio boy like me, and I like what he = says, but he wouldn't stand "a farts chance in a windstorm" (does anyone = know where this quotation came from?) of knocking GW out of there. And, = we do need to throw Bush OUT! Don't mean to offend any conservatives on the list (I know you're out = there). I believe in separating people from their politics, anyway. If I = didn't, I wouldn't have any friends. Later, Jono PS. Here's "a study" I did (attached). It kinda "cartoonist". I need to = practice more, and I need to get some formal instruction. [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream which had a name of Bonus Joan.jpg] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 23:40:42 -0500 From: "jlobello" Subject: Calgary Correction. The Depression is in Calgary not Edmonton. My mistake. Jon PS. See, I just embarrassed myself again. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2004 23:44:48 -0500 From: cul Subject: Re: 1963 jlobello wrote: Cul,I was 11 in '63. Where the heck did you heard Joni at? She was only 19 or 20 at the time. Did yoy sneak into the Depression in Edmonton? Are you from Edmonton?Jono Hi, No, I was in Port Huron, Michigan ...Joni was living in the Detroit area with Chuck Mitchell...born in Apr 1949, I would have been 14 in '63. she was like an older sister at 19 or 20, yeah. I heard her at various Michigan coffee houses that had sprung up during the early and mid-60's... my first hearing though was at the one in Port Huron called the "Cellar". ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2004 23:53:35 -0500 From: cul Subject: Re: 1963, or later 1965? No offense at all taken, I'm just going by memory after all and what I remember is that we started the Cellar when I was in 9th grade , but perhaps tenth, and that Chuck and Joni were there quite a bit even at the start. But, who knows ? Maybe I'm compressing time or something. Joni would have been pregnant with Kilauren during '64 as you say. I'll see if I can dig up some old papers of mine from back then and see what the dates are regarding all of that. jlobello wrote: Cul, I know I too have trouble remembering dates back to the 50's, 60's and 70's and you are 3 years older than me, so please don't take offense, but..... Kelly Dale Anderson (Kilauren Gibb), Joni's daughter, was born in February of 1965 (she's an Aquarian like me). Joni Anderson did not meet Chuck Mitchell until after her daughter was in foster care in Toronto. They did not marry until later in 1965 (that was a mistake). Joni became pregnant in 1964 by her college boy friend (I wont mention names). Therefore, the only place you could have seen her perform in 1963 (but more likely in 1964) was possibly in Edmonton, Alberta at the "Depression". Look at the performance chronology dates on jonimitchell.com (see below). Now sometimes Wally (the creator of jonimitchell.com) didn't have everything down 100%, but he did a darn good job of getting as much reliable info as he possibly could.Jon [TABLE NOT SHOWN] [TABLE NOT SHOWN] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 22:21:50 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE: Invitation Steve, what a great invitation!!! Who could resist??? Kate www.katebennett.com "bringing the melancholy world of twilight to life almost like magic" The All Music Guide ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2004 02:08:39 -0500 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Library Links: February 7 On February 7 the following articles were published: 1974: "Concert Rocks Ithaca" - Ithacan (Review - Concert, with photographs) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=137 1985: "Names and Faces" - Detroit Free Press (News Item) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=906 - -------- Can you type? http://www.jmdl.com/typing/ ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2004 #36 ******************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)