From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2004 #21 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Friday, January 23 2004 Volume 2004 : Number 021 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- banished [rsc1@humboldt.edu] Re: On inventing chords ["Marian Russell" ] RE: Why would someone be cutting? [Gaythorne Silvester ] Re: Joni for Kids, by kids [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] addition to jmdl guitar database ["Marian Russell" ] more covers from the Joniguy [Gertus@aol.com] Tom Rush [Jerry Notaro ] Re: Tom Rush [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Tom Rush [Jerry Notaro ] RE: Tom Rush ["Robert Argento" ] RE: Hell test ["Dylan Rush" ] Fred Simon and his artful tunes ["Maggie McNally" Subject: Re: On inventing chords Jenny Goodspeed wrote: > Here's a link to an article Les brought > to our attention a while back. It's a > VERY academic analysis of Joni's compositional > styles and use of harmony in her early career. > on the pedantic side - but the author obviously > also has a great respect and love for joni. > http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=1056 Very interesting article, Jenny. I want to study it further. I don't remember ever analysing music at university in terms of modes as this author does, so hopefully I can learn something about that from him. Probably an understanding of modal harmonic analysis is essential to being able to talk about Joni's chord progressions intelligently. I was thinking last night of some other guitar songs that have dramatic chord changes - like Help Me and The Jungle Line. It would be interesting to look at these. Marian ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 10:42:33 -0000 From: Gaythorne Silvester Subject: RE: Why would someone be cutting? Yes, Mike Pritchard, Brewer's Phrase and Fable is a terrific reference book. Recommend it to any who's interested in English usage. Still very much in print. Haven't got mine to hand but there's another type of cutting to mention; 'feeling cut up' -- dejected, miserable... don't hear it much nowadays but it's rather a useful expression here (I'm in England). Don't know if you use it in the States. One word I would like to keep in circulation is 'fortnight' - for two weeks - literally 'fourteen nights' - which again I feel is in use more over here, (is it?) but only just clinging on. Luckily a magazine which publishes every two weeks has been employing it on billboards which should give it a boost. Finally - a bit of JC - does Joni ever contribute to this digest? It must be strange for her to have all this Joni-talk going on and hard for her not to join in at times... GS ************************************ Privileged/Confidential Information may be contained in this message. If you are not the addressee indicated in the message (or responsible for the delivery of the message to such person), you may not copy or deliver this message to anyone. In such case, you should destroy this message and kindly notify the sender by reply Email. Please advise immediately if you or your employer does not consent to Internet Email for messages of this kind. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message that do not relate to the official business of Redwood shall be understood as neither given nor endorsed by them. ************************************ Any issues should be addressed to: postmaster@redwoodgroup.net ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 07:10:29 EST From: Gertus@aol.com Subject: Ralph loves Joni Just found this on the Ralph McTell Q&A page on his web site. I always knew he was a great guy and a man of impeccable taste. DIAMOND: In your career Ralph, have you worked with/written to other artists you admire, such as James Taylor as well as Randy Newman? RALPH: I admire most real musicians although like most musicians, I am quite hard to please. Over the years I have met but not played with James Taylor and Joni Mitchell (best album in the world "BLUE") Sonny Terry and Brownie McGhee, Rev Gary Davis, Memphis Slim, Jack Elliot, Derroll Adams, Stan Tracey and a few thousand more or so. I guess I just become a punter in the sense that I just like to be in the same room with my musical heroes like everyone else. I worked with the Everly Bros which was great. I suppose I like the unattainable dream as much as the reality. It is so hard to find the right words to express your admiration for the quality of heroesb contribution to your own happiness. I usually just end up saying "Thanks". I also extend that to those I will never meet and those who have gone before. I was asked recently by the bloke cutting my hair what was the latest CD I had bought. My answer produced complete silence when I said King Oliver and Louis Armstrong Hot Five and Hot Seven recordings from the twenties! Jacky (NP Covers and contributions Vol 49 - Wow!!!!) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 15:56:41 +0100 From: Emiliano Subject: Re: Joni for Kids Hmmm, lovely thread, indeed! First, you must assume that here, when your friend is stumbling across the live performances of Joni, all the girls start yelling: "Oh, no, Emi, no more Joni for now!" (sigh!) The first one it came to my mind is, for sure, Dreamland!!! Why? It's so important to keep on dreaming, to stimulate dreams! ... and I think its rhythm is very catchy Emiliano Lori : > This reminds me of a thread I wanted to start ... I think it may have > gone around the block here before but let's give it a shot anyway: > > If you were to record a CD or cassette of Joni songs for a child, for > what age child would you record it and what songs would you include? > Why? > > Rather than list all of the songs I would include, I'm going to name > the first three that pop into my head: > > Big Yellow Taxi > Marcie > The Circle Game > Catherine: > Michael from mountains > Morning Morgantown > Sisotowbell Lane > Chelsea Morning > Ladies of the canyon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 10:54:02 -0500 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni for Kids, by kids Subject: addition to jmdl guitar database Check out the latest addition to the JMDL guitar database: Hejira Tablature by Eyolf Xstrem Marian ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 11:17:41 EST From: Gertus@aol.com Subject: more covers from the Joniguy I got a treat in the post today. It was volume 49 of "Covers and Contributions" from Bob. Normally, I have to say that I'm not too keen on cover versions. I nearly always prefer the original especially where singer- songwriters are concerned but maybe it's a credit to Joni's writing that a real hotchpotch of performers have produced some very listenable versions on this album and some are stunningly good. There is so much good stuff that I can't mention them all but there are some real stand-outs. Bob's choice of The Beat of Black Wings as an opener is great followed by 2 lovely instrumental versions of BSN and ACOY by The End Phenomena and Matthew Kern respectively - (who on earth are they?) Harry Belafonte singing BSN is interesting (at least I've heard of him as I have Sheena Easton and Nazarath but that's about it.) Other favourites are Goodbye Pork Pie Hat by Ralph Towner and Gary Burton, a jazzy Fiddle and the Drum by Danilo Perez and an instrumental Michael from Mountains by Cindy Keller Wittenberg and Tracy Dietrich (where does he find them!) I think I can live without the last 4 tracks because I'm all Joni covered out by then. Official release date is Feb I'm told so don't be afraid to get one. Jacky ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 15:21:52 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Tom Rush Going to see Tom Rush tomorrow night. In Today9s Weekender is a Hot Ticket promo with picture and story. From the story: Fans know that Rush, 62, has always been a champion of new talent, and, for a while there, he was one of the few artists singing songs by an unknown Joni Mitchell. (Oh, sure, sure, now EVERYONE loves Joni!) Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 15:40:37 -0500 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Tom Rush And an unknown James Taylor, and an unknown Jackson Browne... Tom had a darn good ear! Of course, besides "Urge For Going" he also did "Tin Angel" & "The Circle Game" which he chose as the name of the LP. Enjoy the gig Jerry...I'm planning on seeing RLJ on the 30th. Bob NP: Steve Goldberger & The Fringe Locals, "Weekends With The Local Fringe" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 16:16:34 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Tom Rush > Joni Mitchell. > > > And an unknown James Taylor, and an unknown Jackson Browne... > Tom had a darn good ear! > > Of course, besides "Urge For Going" he also did "Tin Angel" > & "The Circle Game" which he chose as the name of the LP. > > Enjoy the gig Jerry...I'm planning on seeing RLJ on the 30th. > > Bob > > NP: Steve Goldberger & The Fringe Locals, "Weekends With The > Local Fringe" > I see RLJ six days later in Tampa. Also, going to see Judy Collins on the 28th here and a great photo and story about her in this morning's paper. In it they mention that as popular as Judy made BSN, most people still don't know that Joni wrote it. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 17:14:20 -0500 From: "Robert Argento" Subject: RE: Tom Rush Back in 1963-65, Tom Rush was often in Miami playing at the coffee houses. As I may have mentioned earlier, there were many artists that bounced up and down the East coast, yo-yoing it between Boston and Miami. In Miami Tom played mostly at a place called "The Flick". His appearances there certainly expanded MY interest in folk music. (Dylan hadn't broken down the barriers yet so Folk was just about it). And while Tom didn't CALL it "Country", there certainly was a lot of that in his music too - so HE was breaking down barriers in his way, too. Tom Rush has always been one of my favorites. At that time I had no idea that he would be one of the more influential people in the development of American music. Joni was just one of many of the artists he helped out. I thought he was SO much older that I was then. But I guess three years difference WAS a lot then. I don't know how he started as an artist. I believe he was still studying at Harvard when I first saw him. Perhaps he started playing in Cambridge for a few dollars and the fun of it, as many of us old "folkies" used to do. I am sorry I missed his last appearance here in this part of Florida - I was away at the time. Uh-oh! Getting nostalgic! As some British musicians said some years later - - Another year older and another year slower. Robban > -----Original Message----- > From: les@jmdl.com [mailto:les@jmdl.com] On Behalf Of > SCJoniGuy@aol.com > Sent: den 22 januari 2004 15:41 > To: Jerry Notaro; Joni List > Subject: Re: Tom Rush > > Joni Mitchell. > > > And an unknown James Taylor, and an unknown Jackson Browne... > Tom had a darn good ear! > > Of course, besides "Urge For Going" he also did "Tin Angel" > & "The Circle Game" which he chose as the name of the LP. > > Enjoy the gig Jerry...I'm planning on seeing RLJ on the 30th. > > Bob > > NP: Steve Goldberger & The Fringe Locals, "Weekends With The > Local Fringe" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 09:28:07 +1100 From: "Dylan Rush" Subject: RE: Hell test I got a 4. Wow. That's gotta be a record. _________________________________________________________________ Hot chart ringtones and polyphonics. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilemania/default.asp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 17:46:43 -0500 From: "Maggie McNally" Subject: Fred Simon and his artful tunes Fred Simon was kind enough to provide me with a copy of this cd and it is outstanding. He puts his own interpretation on some Joni classics and some other marvelous tunes. He was also generous enough to provide his cd for last year's Jonifest raffle. This naturally leads me to my pitch - if you have something to donate that you know a JMDLer would enjoy receiving please, please declare your intentions now, or if you cannot yet figure out what that might be, please start thinking. Last year we were able to raise just over $900 for the web site and Alex and I would love to top that. We can do it, but only with your help and good-natured participation. All the best, Maggie - -----Original Message----- From: Jerry Notaro [mailto:notaro@bayflash.stpt.usf.edu] Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 8:04 AM To: mike pritchard; Joni List; jerry notaro Cc: HOOPSJOHN1@aol.com Subject: Re: why would someone be cutting at a party? > np - Fred Simon - Michael from Mountains > > Mike, > > How wonderful to see Fred9s name here. For those who are new, Fred, who lives > in Chicago, is, along with David Lahm and Roberto Holliston, one of our > 3Premier Pianists2 on the list. > > Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 00:58:03 -0500 From: "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Cinti songwriter loves Joni, Joni Content In a recent edition of Cincinnati Weekly, a local songwriter, Emily Strand, recommended 5 CDs. Emily Strand said, Lucinda Williams' WORLD WITHOUT TEARS (Lost Highway label) I didn't expect Lucinda's new record to top her classic CAR WHEELS ON A GRAVEL ROAD, but Lucinda is someone whose songwriting I try to emulate, and this new collection lives up to my expectations. "Righteously" is my favorite track. Sarah McLachlan's AFTERGLOW (Arista label) I have just began to listen to this long-awaited new record. (I ripped into [the] Lucinda Williams [disc] first!) But it sound like classic Sarah: well-composed, intelligent pop songs, ethereally produced by Pierre Marchand. Suzanne Vega's NINE OBJECTS OF DESIRE (A&M label) This is the best album that has ever been made by anyone. The combination of Suzanne's heady songwriting and Mitchell Froom's at times down-right creepy production is nothing short of a miracle. "Carmel" is the track [which] people recognize, but "Thin Man" and "Tombstone" are my personal favorites. Chris Smither's LIVE AS I'LL EVER BE (Hightone label) I discovered Chris Smither about a year ago and haven't been the same since. His brand of the blues is inspired, and with songs like "No Love Today," he's bound for legendary status. His new record is great as well, but I keep coming back to this powerful live solo recording. I guess that's the solo artist in me, entranced by his ability to carry it all on his own." Joni Mitchell's LADIES OF THE CANYON (Reprise label) I listen to Joni Mitchell like some people take vitamins. I want to keep me healthy as a songwriter. This record is new to me- I practically wore out BLUE and treated myself to LADIES OF THE CANYON a few months ago. "For Free" is my favorite, currently." Lurking but not dozing, Ol Man L'Hommedieu PS, at 43, things start to slip (eyesight). At 47 the slope gets slippery (thinking, hearing). As the Boss observed something like, "The ride gets bumpy and the road gets rough. 'Ya gotta' learn to live with what you can't rise above." ppss, It's all "down hill" after baby teeth. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 02:12:13 -0500 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today in History: January 23 1974: Joni performed at the Auditorium in Chicago. At one point, an audience member yelled for "White Rabbit." Joni answered, "I'm getting slick, but I'm not that Slick." More info: http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=816 - ---- For a comprehensive reference to Joni's appearances, consult Joni Mitchell ~ A Chronology of Appearances: http://www.jonimitchell.com/appearances.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 02:12:13 -0500 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Library Links: January 23 On January 23 the following article was published: 1999: "If You See Her, Say Hello" - Hotpress (Review - Concert) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=126 ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2004 #21 ******************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)