From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2004 #7 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Sunday, January 11 2004 Volume 2004 : Number 007 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Both Sides Now, Travelogue and the earlier work ["Mike Wood" ] Re: Both Sides (Now) Cyrano [Bobsart48@aol.com] Re: joni news? [Catherine McKay ] Re: Both Sides Now [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] John Guerin 1939-2004 ["Les Irvin" ] Re: joni news? [Deb Messling ] Re: John Guerin 1939-2004 [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: John Guerin 1939-2004 [KJHSF@aol.com] Re: John Guerin 1939-2004 ["amelio747" ] Howdy, again. [Neil Orts ] Re: John Guerin 1939-2004 [Chris Marshall ] Re: John Guerin 1939-2004 [Randy Remote ] Re: John Guerin 1939-2004 [Catherine McKay ] Re: Howdy, again. [vince ] Re: joni news? ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: joni news? ["Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Re: John Guerin 1939-2004 [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] RE: John Guerin 1939-2004 [] Today in History: January 11 [ljirvin@jmdl.com] Today's Library Links: January 11 [ljirvin@jmdl.com] Re: Howdy, again. ["Happy The Man" ] John Gueirn& Joni [MINGSDANCE@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 11:01:22 -0000 From: "Mike Wood" Subject: Both Sides Now, Travelogue and the earlier work Why do so many people feel the need to "ake sides"? The world (well, my world) would be an infinitely poorer place without both BSN (I can't get through from Answer Me to the end of A Case of You without tears and - literally - no other artist moves me to tears like Joni) and Travelogue, which is worth the money just for the staggering rereading of the Hejira classics. Ofcourse, I wouldn't also be without FTR, or DJRD, or the other records mentioned, but is the cost of having both vresions really so much in comparison to the pleasure gained? Compre ti to eating out, or visiting the cinema, or - for Petes sake - buying a c.d.by someone else! I lsiten to other peoples music, too, of course, but look at the lyrics of some of the others quoted here and -er - don't they seem a bit - well - shallow to you. And I am very sorry, but I od include most of Dylan in this. As well as Joni now, I am listening to quite a lot of Norah Jones and Katie Melua - I am fairly new to this board so don't now if these artists have yet ben dissected - and I am enjoying it but ... well, its not the same and I'm strayingoff the point here so forgive me for that. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 07:38:43 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Both Sides Now, Travelogue and the earlier work **Why do so many people feel the need to "take sides"?** I'm not sure that people are taking sides as much as we're just expressing preferences, Mike. As long as theirs respect for each others' preferences, where's the harm? Besides, where else can these kinds of issues be discussed? That's what this forum is for. Welcome to you, by the way... ** The world (well, my world) would be an infinitely poorer place without both BSN ** And since I sprung for the first release (the hatbox) of BSN, my world would be about 50 bucks richer without it! :~) All kidding aside, I'm glad that you & many others are so moved by this project. Bob NP: Hajime Chitose, "Blue" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 08:23:31 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2004 #12 - prophetic? --- BRYAN8847@aol.com wrote: > Someone else may have mentioned this, but the "while > Muslims hold up > Washington" line in Otis and Marlena refers to an > incident in 77 or 76 where a radical > Muslim or two went into a government office in DC > and briefly took hostages > (or something along that line). Of course that > doesn't mean isn't prophetic... History repeats itself. What we don't learn from, we are condemned to repeat. There is nothing new under the sun. Everything old is new again. I'm sure there are a number of other relevant adages, cliches and quotes that fit, but no one needs to be beat over the head with it or have it rammed down his/her throat. ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 09:59:51 EST From: Bobsart48@aol.com Subject: Re: Both Sides Now I don't like pasting in entire posts, but in this case I did post Bob Muller's below. While I am flattered to be viewed as ballsy, as usual it is in the area of criticism. Ironic, since my post was intended as praise. My point being that I agree with everything you say below, Bob (except the part where you overstate my guitar playing by a wide margin, you flatterer, you). The praise being that her singing and playing (as wonderful and intoxicating as they are to me) are eclipsed by her (much rarer) compositional skills. So, to reiterate my oft-stated position for the benefit of the newbies, lest they get the wrong idea - I think Joni is the greatest "popular music" artist of the English speaking world over the latter third of the 20th century. I do not know who I would rate as #2, but nobody else comes close. By popular music, I embrace all forms that contain music and lyrics - i.e., "song"). I have not seen Love, and missed any earlier threads (though from time to time have spotted this reference before) - can you elaborate ? Bobsart **I would be inclined to think that instrument playing is her weakest area and singing her second weakest area.** Wow, that IS pretty ballsy criticism, Bob...I think that instrument playing is one of her strongest strengths, I'm in awe when I watch her play the guitar, piano or dulcimer for that matter, she appears to have a unique mastery of it all and always seems to be paving new ground. But then again, you're a guitarist (a damn good one at that) and all I play is the stereo. As for her singing, I would say that she's a marvelous vocalist but moreso when it pertains to her own songs. I think when she changes hats and becomes an interpretive vocalist of others' work, she pales a bit. That may be because as a writer she is so superior to so many others. Add "actress" to her skill sets and it might shake up your list a bit.Watch her act in the film "Love" and you may change your mind about her weaknesses. ;~) Bob ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 10:48:51 -0500 From: SMC1254@aol.com Subject: joni news? Someone out there must have some Joni news! Some little crumb to peck at. I saw on Amazon.com that her Memoirs are scheduled for Sept.04., still with Crown publishing. What happened to the Allison Anders documentary? JM.com is so quiet in the news department. Help Me. Stephen ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 10:53:20 -0500 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: JMDL Digest V2004 #12 - prophetic? Specifically, a small group of Hanafi Muslims led by Hamaas Abdul Khaalis took 134 hostages in th B'nai B'rith headquarters, city hall, and the Islamic Center. At the time it was described by the press as the "worst domestic terrorist incident to date." I lived in DC at the time. When DJRD came out there was no question that Joni was referring to this incident. The JDML lyrics glossary has some details: http://www.jmdl.com/glossary/muslims.cfm - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]On Behalf Of BRYAN8847@aol.com Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 1:37 AM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2004 #12 - prophetic? >EVEN THOUGH "Don Juan's..." came out in '77, what I found wild about >that song was that it seemed to be talking about that incident, since >the whole DC area was literally "Held Up," due to the fear everyone >had of being shot and killed by these mysterious snipers....ANyone >else notice this or find that to be interesting? Someone else may have mentioned this, but the "while Muslims hold up Washington" line in Otis and Marlena refers to an incident in 77 or 76 where a radical Muslim or two went into a government office in DC and briefly took hostages (or something along that line). Of course that doesn't mean isn't prophetic... Bryan ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 11:09:33 -0800 From: "Victor Johnson" Subject: RE: joni news? > Someone out there must have some Joni news! > Some little crumb to peck at. I believe she walked her dog yesterday. I'm not positive though so don't take my word for it. Victor Johnson New cd "Parsonage Lane" available now Produced by Chris Rosser at Hollow Reed Studios, Asheville http://www.waytobluemusic.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 11:12:07 EST From: Bobsart48@aol.com Subject: Re: Both Sides (Now) Cyrano Paz wrote: "**NOW Bob we don't say anything about your schmaltzy overwrought arrangements at Jonifests.**" I interceded, genteelly "Since I have not yet seen Bob M's reply, may I say on his behalf 'Touche' !" Having none of that, Muller retorts: Well, as my arranger Michael you'd be a fool to do so! Now me again, on behalf of Paz " Touche', my tushie - en garde !! " (puns, irony, double entendre) I've got it - we put on Cyrano at the next Jonifest, and invite Joni to play Roxane (fulfilling her dream to play the lead role as an actress). Paz plays Valvert, and Muller plays Cyrano (of course, Paz will be allowed to break Muller's nose first to add a touch of realism - a small price to pay for winning the duel and uttering love poems to Joni - no ?). Sorry, Bob - the epees have tips (or perhaps we let Roxane make that call ;-) ). I'll settle for the part of Christian, dying happy, thinking this Roxane loves me. Bobsart (Impossible -hopefully not Reoccurring - Dreamer) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 11:36:54 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: joni news? --- SMC1254@aol.com wrote: > Someone out there must have some Joni news! > Some little crumb to peck at. I saw on Amazon.com > that her Memoirs are scheduled for Sept.04., still > with Crown publishing. > What happened to the Allison Anders documentary? > JM.com is so quiet in the news department. > Help Me. > The "Memoirs" keep showing up with some future date ascribed to them. I wouldn't be holding my breath for it or trying to order an advance copy if I were you, or you'd end up some shade on beyond blue. As to the Allison Anders thing, I'm not sure which one this was - it was either what ended up as JM: a WOHAM, or another one that got quashed by Joni herself. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. I understand that there were two things going on at around the same time - - one being WOHAM and the other being the AA documentary that Joni nixed for some reason. That may have been the one that featured interviews with Bill and Muriel - if so, I'd love to see it and hope there's a bootleg copy around somewhere that some enterprising soul may get hold of and share with us. ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 12:38:09 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Both Sides Now **I have not seen Love, and missed any earlier threads (though from time to time have spotted this reference before) - can you elaborate ?** It's just a really strange little film, with Joni playing the part of Art Nouveau (from the DJRD cover) and going to a costume party. Truth be told, Joni's OK but the segment as a whole is pretty cheesy and for the most part pretty painful to watch. But the movie (a collection of 4 shorts written & directed by women) is worthwhile if only for the first few minutes where the credits are accompanied by an instrumental version of Joni's song "Love" and her semi-scatting the vocal. Pretty cool. I wouldn't have mentioned it except for the fact that I just made a copy of it for someone and when I tested it to make sure it worked I was once again taken with that intro. Bob NP: The Long Winters, "Blanket Hog" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 12:00:31 -0700 From: "Les Irvin" Subject: John Guerin 1939-2004 This message from Patti Witten bounced on its way to the list - les - ---------- I haven't been following this list lately so forgive me if this is already known to all of you, but here is the link to a memorial site for John Guerin, the best drummer I have ever heard. http://johnguerin.com/ We know him from Joni's LA Express records, plus Hejira and Blue, but just check out his discography. Amazing. Patti - -- http://pattiwitten.com There are about five things to write songs about: I'm leaving you. You're leaving me. I want you. You don't want me. I believe in something. Five subjects, and twelve notes. For all that, we musicians do pretty well. - -Elvis Costello ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 14:10:20 -0500 From: Deb Messling Subject: Re: joni news? I seem to remember that Allison Anders was doing a documentary on the making of Travelogue - I don't think it was connected with WOHAM. Search the keyword "Anders" in the JMDL library and there are a couple of articles. At 11:36 AM 1/10/2004 -0500, you wrote: >As to the Allison Anders thing, I'm not sure which one >this was - it was either what ended up as JM: a WOHAM, >or another one that got quashed by Joni herself. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Deb Messling -^..^- messling@enter.net - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 15:57:42 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: John Guerin 1939-2004 Sad news - I had not heard it, so thanks for sharing it Les. John was one of the few people on the planet who could claim a songwriting credit with Joni (The Hissing of Summer Lawns). Bob NP: The Bad Plus, "Smells Like Teen Spirit" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 17:22:39 EST From: KJHSF@aol.com Subject: Re: John Guerin 1939-2004 Such sad news! I'm very surprised we didn't hear of this until today, nearly a week after the fact. A musician friend in SF tells me that Joni was WILD about Mr. Guerin, that he was a very handsome man, and that they were romantically linked for some time. Ken ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 22:32:53 -0000 From: "amelio747" Subject: Re: John Guerin 1939-2004 Yes really sad. THOSL is my favourite album so I really appreciate him as a musician. I remember seeing the picture of him on WOHAM and thinking he was younger than Joni. Very good looking! NP: In France... Joni * * * * * * Stephen T "I get the urge for going But I never seem to go" - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Cc: Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 10:22 PM Subject: Re: John Guerin 1939-2004 > Such sad news! I'm very surprised we didn't hear of this until today, > nearly a week after the fact. > > A musician friend in SF tells me that Joni was WILD about Mr. Guerin, that he > was a very handsome man, and that they were romantically linked for some time. > Ken ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 14:44:54 -0800 (PST) From: Neil Orts Subject: Howdy, again. It's probably been over two years since I've been on the JMDL. Time flies when you're in grad school. When last I appeared here, I'd just moved to Chicago--even got help from woefully neglected JMDLers (I'd always intended to have them over for dinner and then school started and then I never really set up that apartment . . . blah blah blah excuses excuses I'm really just a bad person . . . )--and now I'm back in my home state of Texas, Houston this time. (Longtimers might remember me as being in Austin.) I'm sure I've missed all the discussion over Travelogue and whatnot, but just to have a little Joni content in this re-intro post, I have to say that I enjoyed Travelogue immensely. In one or two cases, I felt she made some questionable choices for orchestration, but I have to say the arrangement on Dawntreader was an eye opener. I don't think I'd ever really paid much attention to it until I heard it on Travelogue. Now it's moved up to one of my favorite Joni songs. It translated very nicely to the orchestra setting. And that's enough for now. Just wanted to re-connect. I'll be around until I get overwhelmed by posts again. :) - -Neil ===== Neil Ellis Orts 713-838-1787 Houston, TX keep up with my creative endeavors--join my newsletter list: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/neonews ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 23:39:54 +0000 From: Chris Marshall Subject: Re: John Guerin 1939-2004 Oh, this really is sad news. He played on the albums that, for me, make up Joni's sweet spot: C&S, Hissing, Hejira and DJRD. When I get the chance to specify what sort of drummer I'd like to play with, it's Hissing, Hejira and DJRD I point to as an example. Damn. - --Chris Marshall chrisAThatstand.org (AIM: Chr15Marshall) "If you're ever lost, I'll beat the world to finding you" Stryngs, "Bobblehats and Beer" Band website, with downloads, at http://www.stryngs.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 15:55:07 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: John Guerin 1939-2004 Too bad to hear about Mr. Guerin, though he did not play on Blue, but did play with Blue Mitchell. How many guys can say they drummed for Zappa, The Monkees, Madonna, Thelonious Monk, and Liza Minnelli? His first Joni credit was MIA and WTRF his last. I think. Also listed is: 1996- grace of my heart (instrumental), so you never know... Les Irvin wrote: > This message from Patti Witten bounced on its way to the list - les > ---------- > I haven't been following this list lately so forgive me if this is already > known to all of you, but here is the link to a memorial site for John > Guerin, the best drummer I have ever heard. > > http://johnguerin.com/ > > We know him from Joni's LA Express records, plus Hejira and Blue, but just > check out his discography. Amazing. > > Patti > -- > http://pattiwitten.com > > There are about five things to write songs about: I'm leaving you. You're > leaving me. I want you. You don't want me. I believe in something. Five > subjects, and twelve notes. For all that, we musicians do pretty well. > -Elvis Costello ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 19:21:55 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: John Guerin 1939-2004 --- Chris Marshall wrote: > Oh, this really is sad news. > > He played on the albums that, for me, make up Joni's > sweet spot: C&S, Hissing, Hejira and DJRD. > > When I get the chance to specify what sort of > drummer > I'd like to play with, it's Hissing, Hejira and DJRD > I point to as an example. > > Damn. > Was his not the boom-boom pachyderm on which all those pretty girls were hanging? Bye-bye, boom-boom. Somehow he had to have been too young to die. ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 20:27:18 -0500 From: vince Subject: Re: Howdy, again. welcome back - a name that is balm for eyes which wish to see familiar and long missing names! Vince Neil Orts wrote: >It's probably been over two years since I've been on >the JMDL. Time flies when you're in grad school. > >When last I appeared here, I'd just moved to >Chicago--even got help from woefully neglected JMDLers >(I'd always intended to have them over for dinner and >then school started and then I never really set up >that apartment . . . blah blah blah excuses excuses >I'm really just a bad person . . . )--and now I'm back >in my home state of Texas, Houston this time. >(Longtimers might remember me as being in Austin.) > >I'm sure I've missed all the discussion over >Travelogue and whatnot, but just to have a little Joni >content in this re-intro post, I have to say that I >enjoyed Travelogue immensely. In one or two cases, I >felt she made some questionable choices for >orchestration, but I have to say the arrangement on >Dawntreader was an eye opener. I don't think I'd ever >really paid much attention to it until I heard it on >Travelogue. Now it's moved up to one of my favorite >Joni songs. It translated very nicely to the orchestra >setting. > >And that's enough for now. Just wanted to re-connect. >I'll be around until I get overwhelmed by posts again. > :) > >-Neil > > >===== >Neil Ellis Orts 713-838-1787 >Houston, TX > >keep up with my creative endeavors--join my newsletter list: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/neonews ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 17:33:16 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Re: joni news? >I seem to remember that Allison Anders was doing a documentary on the making of Travelogue - I don't think it was connected with WOHAM.< Yes where is that documentary I wonder...my friend says he is a friend of allison's so I will see if he knows anything www.katebennett.com "bringing the melancholy world of twilight to life almost like magic" The All Music Guide ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 22:10:43 -0500 From: "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Re: joni news? Yeah, the Anders' documentary covers, at least in part, the making of TRAVELOGUE. I think the delay may be a Good Thing. It means that Joni-The-Perfectionist is driving rather than Norma-The-Reckless. Maybe Ms. Anders proposed a simple title like "The Making Of Travelogue" We all know that will never fly! Maybe Joni wants to put the "A" back in the title: "The Making Of A Travelogue" but then the production company would want her name above the title so then it would be: "Joni Mitchell: The Making Of A Travelogue" It has to go through revisions so as to confuse the public. This time out she's not revising stuff after the promotion machinery has already started and again, that's a Good Thing. It takes TIME to figure out how to shoot one's self in one's foot. Maybe they're waiting until the supplies of TRAVELOGUE and the WOHaM DVD are gone. That's called "waiting for the sell-through". (Paz- It's now *OKAY* to start thinking about PazFest2. ) You want consumers to buy every new thing from a brand; you don't want them to decide between new things from a brand. "Beauty walks a razor's edge / someday I'll make it mine." B. Dylan All the best, Jim np: The Grateful Dead live. Gees after Pigpen died, they didn't have anyone who could sing! I sound that good... Well, almost. Catherine McKay said, >there were two things going on at around the same time - - - one being WOHAM and the other being the AA documentary that Joni nixed for some reason. That may have been the one that featured interviews with Bill and Muriel - if so, I'd love to see it and hope there's a bootleg copy around somewhere that some enterprising soul may get hold of and share with us.> ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 22:48:04 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: John Guerin 1939-2004 **and that they were romantically linked for some time.** True, and unless I'm mistaken they broke up during the '76 tour and nipped the tour in the bud. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 22:28:19 -0600 From: Subject: RE: John Guerin 1939-2004 So sad. We've been losing too many great ones lately. I noted that his memorial site mentioned that he died of "complications from the flu." Although, of course, I don't know the circumstances of his illness, I can't help but wondering whether, with the shortage of flu vaccine that seems widespread this year, we won't be seeing more of this. I hope not. But mainly, I got out my vinyl copy of Hissing just to read the end of the acknowledgments on the inside of the cover: "I would especially like to thank [. . .] John Guerin for showing me the root of the chord and where 1 was." Thank you from me, too, John, for your contributions to Miles of Aisles and The Hissing of Summer Lawns, among the many, many works your own work enriched and brightened. Rest in peace. Mary P. NPIMH: "Bed of Coals," T-Bone Burnett and Warren Zevon: "I'm too old to die young/ And too young to die now." ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 02:02:27 -0500 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today in History: January 11 1986: The single "Good Friends" peaked at #85 on the US charts - ---- For a comprehensive reference to Joni's appearances, consult Joni Mitchell ~ A Chronology of Appearances: http://www.jonimitchell.com/appearances.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 02:02:27 -0500 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Library Links: January 11 On January 11 the following article was published: 1969: "...Ssshhhhhh... Listen, Listen to Joni " - Weekend Magazine (Interview) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=625 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 01:14:34 -0600 From: "Happy The Man" Subject: Re: Howdy, again. Neil, Well good friend it is good to hear from you. And good to hear that your close to home. How is the acting going, are you doing anything? I concur with your thoughts on Travelogue but for me it was Otis and Marlena and it only drove me back to the original. peace, Craig - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil Orts" To: Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 4:44 PM Subject: Howdy, again. > It's probably been over two years since I've been on > the JMDL. Time flies when you're in grad school. > > When last I appeared here, I'd just moved to > Chicago--even got help from woefully neglected JMDLers > (I'd always intended to have them over for dinner and > then school started and then I never really set up > that apartment . . . blah blah blah excuses excuses > I'm really just a bad person . . . )--and now I'm back > in my home state of Texas, Houston this time. > (Longtimers might remember me as being in Austin.) > > I'm sure I've missed all the discussion over > Travelogue and whatnot, but just to have a little Joni > content in this re-intro post, I have to say that I > enjoyed Travelogue immensely. In one or two cases, I > felt she made some questionable choices for > orchestration, but I have to say the arrangement on > Dawntreader was an eye opener. I don't think I'd ever > really paid much attention to it until I heard it on > Travelogue. Now it's moved up to one of my favorite > Joni songs. It translated very nicely to the orchestra > setting. > > And that's enough for now. Just wanted to re-connect. > I'll be around until I get overwhelmed by posts again. > :) > > -Neil > > > ===== > Neil Ellis Orts 713-838-1787 > Houston, TX > > keep up with my creative endeavors--join my newsletter list: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/neonews ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 02:25:56 EST From: MINGSDANCE@aol.com Subject: John Gueirn& Joni I was sad to hear about John's passing. I know we had the discussion a few months ago about who "Coyote" might be and I suggested it was possibly about him. Reading his Bio it now points all fingers that "Coyote" was written about him because of his ranch and love for horses. It would also mean that "Wild Things Run Fast" would single him out and the painting Joni did could be of his horses. Sorry for my last post (sjc) but I now know I should have separated my post on THOSL being covered on NPR. Sometimes I "m not the sharpest tool in the shed when it comes to this computer stuff. Peace Mingus ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2004 #7 ******************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)