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onlyJMDL Digest      Wednesday, January 7 2004      Volume 2004 : Number 003



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TOPICS and authors in this Digest:
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  Virtually Nothing here in regards to trading  ["Kevin Arshad" <arshadameer]
  Re: Joni on Jep! and an update on my DVD player (a little long)  ["ron" <f]
  Joni Content - your 2004 presidential candidate  [vince <revrvl@chartermi.]
  Re: Joni Content - your 2004 presidential candidate  ["Norman Pennington" ]
  joni article in mountain astrologer     [Mary Casey <kcdesign@pacbell.net>]
  Re: Joni Content - your 2004 presidential candidate  [Emiliano <emilianopd]
  RE: Joni, will you come to the fest?  ["michael o'malley" <michaelo@webnet]
  RE: Joni, will you come to the fest?  [Catherine McKay <anima_rising@yahoo]
  RE: Joni, will you come to the fest?  ["Robert Argento" <robert@argento.se]
  Today's Library Links: January 7                         [ljirvin@jmdl.com]
  Joni Covering                             ["Ross, Les" <LXROSS@ctrl.co.uk>]

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Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 10:49:40 -0600
From: "Kevin Arshad" <arshadameer@hotmail.com>
Subject: Virtually Nothing here in regards to trading

I'm still looking for USA/Canadian traders. I have had a few responses, =
but considering the activity on this list, I would expect more.
I would like to find some of those video performances we see snippets of =
on "Woman of Heart and Mind", especially the 60's and early 70's stuff.

If this list has managed to add stuff on the end of my links below, they =
should both end with htm
If you would like to look at them, just copy and paste into your browser =
and remove whatever has been added at the end after htm=20
I also have many new arrivals not at the links below which I can send to =
you including a number of Joni.

http://www.eugenemorin.com/kevcdr.htm=20

http://www.eugenemorin.com/kevvcdvhs.htm

[demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of LED.jpg]

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Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 19:17:23 +0200
From: "ron" <flopit@mweb.co.za>
Subject: Re: Joni on Jep! and an update on my DVD player (a little long)

hi


            <<<michael paz wrote<<<<
            >>>> You gotta be fecking kidding me Ron. That bitch is
terrible. Besides she's a liar, a cheat, a thief, and above all has a
drinking problem (not to mention that flatulence thing).<<<<


damn - we've got so much in common  :-)


strikes me that someone is just a smidgeon jealous 'cause someone else can
play a *real* guitar - stead 'a just "veget8ting"..............     :-)



ron

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Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2004 19:16:54 -0500
From: vince <revrvl@chartermi.net>
Subject: Joni Content - your 2004 presidential candidate

Gen. Wesley Clark

17 November 2003 New Yorker

page 76

Clark: "I loved hearing Joan Baez and Joni Mitchell..."


that is enough - first candidate to make a Joni mention

Vince

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Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 17:29:18 -0700
From: "Norman Pennington" <buckpennington@yucca.net>
Subject: Re: Joni Content - your 2004 presidential candidate

LOL, Vince.  While I'm _quite_ sure you had your tongue planted firmly in
your cheek, this still made me laugh!  I'll admit Dubya probably doesn't
even know who Joni _is_, let alone listens to her on a regular basis.  But,
we all have our shortcomings, don't we? ;-)  I'll give him Joni lapse and
take the Bush Doctrine.  That way, we'll all be able to enjoy Joni's music
for years and years to come without fear of a Taliban-like fundamentalist
Islamic future.

Buck...with tongue planted firmly in cheek on that last one.

- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "vince" <revrvl@chartermi.net>
To: "Joni List" <Joni@smoe.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 5:16 PM
Subject: Joni Content - your 2004 presidential candidate


> Gen. Wesley Clark
>
> 17 November 2003 New Yorker
>
> page 76
>
> Clark: "I loved hearing Joan Baez and Joni Mitchell..."
>
>
> that is enough - first candidate to make a Joni mention
>
> Vince

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Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2004 18:21:49 -0800
From: Mary Casey <kcdesign@pacbell.net>
Subject: joni article in mountain astrologer

I'm not sure if this is old news to the list, but there is a great 
article on Joni in the December/January issue
Mary

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Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2004 03:22:02 +0100
From: Emiliano <emilianopd@mundo-r.com>
Subject: Re: Joni Content - your 2004 presidential candidate

Hi!
It will be great if the sentence would be in present tense!

... Emiliano, who's longing (in the local saint's eve) for those funny past
times when Felipe Gonza'lez brought spanish stardom to Marguerite Yourcenar

Vince says:

> Gen. Wesley Clark
>
> 17 November 2003 New Yorker
>
> page 76
>
> Clark: "I loved hearing Joan Baez and Joni Mitchell..."
>
>
> that is enough - first candidate to make a Joni mention
>
> Vince

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Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 21:35:00 -0500
From: "michael o'malley" <michaelo@webnet.qc.ca>
Subject: RE: Joni, will you come to the fest?

Susan said:

``I still think I have a way to get her there - but we must start our plan in
motion now.  And  my idea is for a documentary on us!!  Then we will jump from
clips of the jonifesters and our yearly rituals to an interview with Joni.
And at the end she will drive up in a limo to the performance space and come
in and listen to the show and then join in on the song circle on the last
night.  Now tell me that doesn't sound like a plan.``

Then Jim said:

``Of course, this is silly but... I think the key to getting Joni is to
getting Little Green on board first.
I'm thinking Kilauren do the persuading FOR us.  I envision her saying, "You
know that Internet community did us a big favor, eh?  So... what about taking
them up on this invitation?  The karma would be great."
Of course, she'd bring the VG-8.  We'd *REALLY* have to get a piano for that
year!``

Then I say:

I don't know how serious the authors of these comments are, but personnaly I
think both these ideas are perhaps suitable for daydreams - but nothing more.
I hate to be a party pooper, but the idea of `scheming` to get Joni to a fest
irks me. Of course, like everyone else, I would love to meet Joni someday, but
frankly, I don't really think we are so interesting a group, to the outside
world, as to warrant a documentary. Second, the idea of using K to attract
Joni to a fest is somewhat repulsive to me. Third, the very last thing I think
Joni would want, is to find herself stuck in the woods somewhere, in a room
full of adoring strangers fawning all over her. She seems, to me, very
ambivalent and even uncomfortable with praise, attention and adulation from
her fans.

I do think Joni should be sent a straightforward invitation to our fests, but
we can only respect her decision to accept or decline - no explanation
necessary. I think that ``scheming`` is definitely the wrong approach. My two
cents.

Michael in Quebec

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Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 22:39:47 -0500 (EST)
From: Catherine McKay <anima_rising@yahoo.ca>
Subject: RE: Joni, will you come to the fest?

 --- michael o'malley <michaelo@webnet.qc.ca> wrote: >
> I do think Joni should be sent a straightforward
> invitation to our fests, but
> we can only respect her decision to accept or
> decline - no explanation
> necessary. I think that ``scheming`` is definitely
> the wrong approach. My two
> cents.

I think they were joking (I hope) but I agree with
your approach. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

Joni, please come to Jonifest this year. We promise we
won't fawn (OK, we promise we'll try not to?) and I
think you'll love it.


=====
Catherine 
Toronto
- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction




______________________________________________________________________ 
Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca

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Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 22:52:44 -0500
From: "Robert Argento" <robert@argento.se>
Subject: RE: Joni, will you come to the fest?

Now this might just seem silly to a lot of you - but has anyone considered
just ASKING her if she would like to attend? All of this planning, scheming
and such.....ah well, I guess it makes for an interesting thread  - but just
ask her and if she wants to come, she will. And if she doesn't, well, she
won't!  

Rob   

> -----Original Message-----
> From: les@jmdl.com [mailto:les@jmdl.com] On Behalf Of michael o'malley
> Sent: den 6 januari 2004 21:35
> To: joni@smoe.org
> Subject: RE: Joni, will you come to the fest?
> 
> Susan said:
> 
> ``I still think I have a way to get her there - but we must 
> start our plan in motion now.  And  my idea is for a 
> documentary on us!!  Then we will jump from clips of the 
> jonifesters and our yearly rituals to an interview with Joni.
> And at the end she will drive up in a limo to the performance 
> space and come in and listen to the show and then join in on 
> the song circle on the last night.  Now tell me that doesn't 
> sound like a plan.``
> 
> Then Jim said:
> 
> ``Of course, this is silly but... I think the key to getting 
> Joni is to getting Little Green on board first.
> I'm thinking Kilauren do the persuading FOR us.  I envision 
> her saying, "You know that Internet community did us a big 
> favor, eh?  So... what about taking them up on this 
> invitation?  The karma would be great."
> Of course, she'd bring the VG-8.  We'd *REALLY* have to get a 
> piano for that year!``
> 
> Then I say:
> 
> I don't know how serious the authors of these comments are, 
> but personnaly I think both these ideas are perhaps suitable 
> for daydreams - but nothing more.
> I hate to be a party pooper, but the idea of `scheming` to 
> get Joni to a fest irks me. Of course, like everyone else, I 
> would love to meet Joni someday, but frankly, I don't really 
> think we are so interesting a group, to the outside world, as 
> to warrant a documentary. Second, the idea of using K to 
> attract Joni to a fest is somewhat repulsive to me. Third, 
> the very last thing I think Joni would want, is to find 
> herself stuck in the woods somewhere, in a room full of 
> adoring strangers fawning all over her. She seems, to me, 
> very ambivalent and even uncomfortable with praise, attention 
> and adulation from her fans.
> 
> I do think Joni should be sent a straightforward invitation 
> to our fests, but we can only respect her decision to accept 
> or decline - no explanation necessary. I think that 
> ``scheming`` is definitely the wrong approach. My two cents.
> 
> Michael in Quebec

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Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2004 02:12:36 -0500
From: ljirvin@jmdl.com
Subject: Today's Library Links: January 7

On January 7 the following articles were published:


1999: "Asner, Mitchell in anti-DreamWorks Documentary" - Reuters/Variety
    (News Item) 
    http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=318
	

2003: "Jobs inspires the faithful" - Mercury News
    (Mention) 
    http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=1053

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Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 07:31:22 -0000 
From: "Ross, Les" <LXROSS@ctrl.co.uk>
Subject: Joni Covering

I just took receipt of the Geffen Recordings from Joni's time with that
company. It was a purchase I had no real enthusiasm for but bought on the
strength of the recommendations made here on the sound quality and, god help
me, the additional joni utterances attached thereto.

I was playing the re-mastered NRH into work this morning and eventually got
to listen to Joni's take on Dylan's 'it's all over now, baby blue'. I think
it's just great. It alone is worth the 28 quid I paid amazon for this set. I
sat in the parking lot at work and played the damned thing six times
straight. I think she nails it beautifully.

I've always liked joni covering the work of other artists. How do you Stop,
Cool Water and, more controversially perhaps, all of Both Sides Now.

But with 'It's all over' I'm arriving at the opinion that here at last is
the work of a contemporary and artist (Dylan) worthy of her attention.

Of course it's always a bit thorny, the covering thing. People hold super
precious the 'original' artist's take on the song being covered. I'm
slightly familiar with Dylan's version of this one but, as with all Dylan's
work, I kinda run into the rocks of this voice. I'm not a great fan of how
he sounds so choose not to get near the work of the man. I think that may be
mellowing a bit with (my) age but the prejudice lingers on. Anyway I'm
fairly sure that Joan's take on this song wanders away from the original - a
safe bet, I'm sure.

It brings to mind the compilation (famous blue raincoat) that jennifer
warnes did of leonard cohen's work. I thought it was superb. She is such a
great voice and he is 'all that' as a song writer.

But if you agree that joni's cover of dylan is at least worthy and are
familiar with the man's work, what, from Dylan's vast catalogue, would
constitute good cover material for Joan when she goes to record a cd's worth
of this work - as surely she won't! (but we can dream...)

Or are there songs from other artists that you think would merit our joan's
attention?

Les (London)

Npimh (It's all over now, baby blue : Joni Mitchell stylee)

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