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onlyJMDL Digest     Saturday, December 20 2003     Volume 2003 : Number 395



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TOPICS and authors in this Digest:
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  Memoir                                                     [JRMCo1@aol.com]
  Re: Joni Compilation                                   [MINGSDANCE@aol.com]
  jazzwise                             ["mike pritchard" <ink08@hotmail.com>]
  iso of JONI VCD or CDr           ["Kevin Arshad" <arshadameer@hotmail.com>]
  Joni Compilation                ["Mark Tatum" <MTatum@lasccoa.state.la.us>]
  My picks for 2003 - aljc             [Randy Remote <guitarzan@direcpc.com>]
  Re: Joni Compilation               ["amelio747" <amelio@sev47.fsnet.co.uk>]
  Re: MARILLION eWeb: Studio Time               ["ash" <millsac@bigpond.com>]
  [none]                                                [<jlamadoo@fuse.net>]
  RE: Joni Compilations (Why is "WMMR is a misprint)?  ["Timothy Spong" <tim]
  Re: Joni Compilations (Why is "WMMR is a misprint)?  [Doug <dmeek@falls.ig]

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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 05:46:40 EST
From: JRMCo1@aol.com
Subject: Memoir

Not Joni's...mine.  :-)  I've gotten inspirational encouragement from a dear
friend on The List, so I'm gonna give it the old college try.  I'll structure
it as a collection of autobiographical essays and plan to intertwine posts
I've made to the list over the years.

Here's one, live from the archives.  I'd be interested in hearing any
thoughts you all might have.  Thanks!

- ----

I was a freshman and Wendy was a senior, but we hit it off famously and
became fast friends at college in Northern California during the early 80s.
She was
brilliant, funny, well-read and a talented photographer. A renaissance woman
if ever I knew one. I revered and adored her and she knew it.   Kindly, she
was gentle with my love.

Going to her room was like visiting a sage in her lair, but with a bohemian
twist. She had an exquisite album collection and a plethora of delightful toys
and mind candy that she took pleasure in entertaining me with: her Pez
dispenser collection, her eclectic little library, smooth wooden boxes of all
shapes
and sizes (some decorated with tiger's eye, amethyst or mother of pearl),
which held caches of rare earthly treasures she'd discovered on charmed
adventures.

One evening she might show me pathos arousing photographs she'd taken of war
torn children in El Salvador, on another she'd read me letters she had written
to lovers who had broken her heart.  On yet another she would light candles
and incense and read to me from Sylvia Plath, Anais Nin or Hermann Hesse.

Once when I came knocking she flung the door open suddenly, looked at me with
mock seriousness. "One question, mister," she said. "Water colors or finger
paints?"  I laughed, but I still have the water color canvas we collaborated
on..

From time to time she'd delight me by steathfully producing one of her wooden
boxes from a cubby hole hidden behind a tie-dyed tapestry.  She'd always have
a glint in her eye, like something wonderful was about to happen. She'd lift
the lid and say "smell this."  Depending on her mood and the alignment of the
stars, I might be smelling sinsemilla, saffron, myrrh or some rare aromatic
potpourri.  They were always bouquets my olfactory sense would be experiencing
for the very first time.  They are fragrances that imprinted themselves on my
mind and are ever associated with Wendy and those days of our lives. .

One night she said "Close your eyes, open your mouth and stick out your
tongue." She gently placed an exotic raspberry tasting candy on my taste buds.
A
tingle ran from my head, down my spine and twinkled my toes.  The only sound I
could manage was "Ummm."  Wendy just smiled.  She had gotten them in France,
she told me, then added matter-of-factly "they're magic."  Before I could ask
her what she meant, she took my hand and said "Come on, it's raining, let's
take
a walk."

We walked arm and arm around campus in the drizzle, she pointed to a grove of
eucalyptus trees and said they were breathing, and I'll be damned if they
didn't appear to be.  We found ourselves at a garden in front of the on-campus
museam where there were a number of Rodin sculptures.  She told me sad, tragic
stories about every Burgher of Calais we encountered as I marveled at their
bronzed beauty, ran my hands across their wet smoothness and bit back
empathetic
tears.


By and by we made our way back to the dorm, jumping in puddles along the way
and sometimes pausing to watch the ripples in heretofore still watter.  Out of
nowhere, we started singing "I Love to Walk in the Rain" from a Shirley
Temple movie we had both seen independently, and we laughed till our bellies
ached
at the fact that we both remembered the lyrics so well.

Wendy's room was toasty warm upon our return, somehow. Once again she lit
candles all around and cones of incense, too. She steeped chamomile tea, which
we
sipped from oversized, hand-painted porcelin mugs, while we lounged in repose
on her futon.

She turned to me suddenly, as if she had just had an epiphany, and gazed deep
into my eyes for what seemed like a long time. She was smiling mysteriously,
in a manner that put me in mind of the Mona Lisa, or Buddha.  She seemed to me
to be sizing me up, as if to see if I was worthy of what she was
contemplating.

Finally, she got up and skipped over to the plastic milk crates that housed
her album collection, alphabetically. She found what she was looking for with
ease, then carefully reached in with her fingertips and slid the record out of
its protective sleeve. In the candlelight I could only make out a dark album
cover with a blurry figure of a woman's face on the cover. She was handling
the
disc like some kind of precious heirloom though, cradling it along the edges
between her palms. She placed it on the turntable and cleaned it with a velvet
swab after putting a few drops of something in a small red plastic bottle on
it. Gingerly, she dropped the needle on the vinyl, then hurried back to be by
my side. She held my hand within the soft caress of both of hers.

Only a few measures into the first song I felt myself becoming rapturous.
The beauty of the voice and music that filled the astounded me. I listened
intently to the lyrics and was profoundly moved by the portraits of
disappointment
and pain.  Once again I had to suppress my weep reflex, like I had while
experiencing the Rodin sculptures.  I was absorbed and enthralled, and was
hearing
music that had a visceral, emotional effect on me like no music ever had
before, like I felt when first smelling Wendy's myrrh.

I sat rapt for the entire album side, then pleaded to hear the other. Wendy
must've seen the amazement and wonder written on my face after the last
lingering note of "The Last Time I Saw Richard" and pre-empted my inevitable
questions. "Joni Mitchell," she said. "Blue."

- -Julius

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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 11:49:59 EST
From: MINGSDANCE@aol.com
Subject: Re: Joni Compilation

I nominate "Woodstock" from "A Day In The Garden" with the intro speech 
included.
Peace,
Mingus

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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 19:23:20 +0100
From: "mike pritchard" <ink08@hotmail.com>
Subject: jazzwise

http://www.jazzwise.com/

News from Jazzwise mag this month includes  an interview with Danilo Perez
(some joni content there, natch), the 'Word of Mouth' revisited big band album
for all you Jaco fans (are you listening Chris M?) and especially for Laurent,
news of a 17-CD Box Set collection from John McLaughlin in the new year 'The
Montreux Concerts 1974-1999'.
Gotta love it... Also an 8-page special on Frank Zappa, one time joni
neighbour...
mike in barcelona
NP Chick Correa - Children's Songs

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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 13:28:46 -0600
From: "Kevin Arshad" <arshadameer@hotmail.com>
Subject: iso of JONI VCD or CDr

Hello, I'm hopefully looking for more great Joni video or audio.=20
I have Joni and many artists to trade... found at link below.

I also have a bunch of new arrivals and a VCD list I can send to =
respondents.

http://www.eugenemorin.com/kevcdr.htm=20

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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 14:07:27 -0600
From: "Mark Tatum" <MTatum@lasccoa.state.la.us>
Subject: Joni Compilation

The unreleased stuff I have is due to the generosity of Bob Muller.  We
definitely need a sample of the good quality Hissing Demos; I would vote
for either Sweet Bird or Shades of Scarlett Conquering.  From the Gene
Autrey Museum show (1/26/95) I like Moon at the Window because you can
hear her guitar work so well and because its an outstanding performance
of this song.  My last suggestion is Trouble Man from A Day in the
Garden (8/15/98). I like her version better than the original.

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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 12:35:29 -0800
From: Randy Remote <guitarzan@direcpc.com>
Subject: My picks for 2003 - aljc

Fave 2003 CD releases
1 THE BANGLES-DOLL REVOLUTION- easily my most
played CD of the year. After 12 years, the LA gurls have reunited
with solid harmonies, excellent songs, and a garage/psych guitar
sound happily devoid of synths and overproduction. Title track
penned by Elvis Costello.
2 CORRY HANNA-OLD ROAD GONE- yes, this is me. Did
you think I would make a CD I didn't like? 6 years in the making,
rock, love, politics. Sylistically akin to Jackson Browne, Beatles,
Cockburn...samples at http://www.corryhanna.com & also
available at CD Baby, Amazon & Tower online.
3 SHELBY LYNNE-IDENTITY CRISIS-solid songwriting,
low key twang. Features the infectious track "Telephone". She
wrote all the songs, produced & played all the guitars. Better than
the glossy "Love, Shelby".
4 NEIL YOUNG-GREENDALE-another successful left turn for
Neil. When the bass player makes an obvious mistake in the first
song and they leave it in, you gotta admire the cajones. Mostly it's
just Neil, his ragged electric guitar, and the Crazy Horse rhythm
section. Included DVD of Neil playing the whole song sequence
acoustically in concert with his spoken comments. Neil longs for
the America of Mayberry, and maybe he's got a point.
5 ALICIA KEYS-THE DIARY OF ALICIA KEYS- I don't
usually listen to this type of music, but the young lady's talents are
undeniable. Shades of Motown and Brill, gutsy singing and
musicianship. Dare I say, at this rate, she could be in Stevie
Wonder territory before too long.
6 DAN HICKS & THE HOT LICKS FEATURING AN ALL
STAR CAST OF FRIENDS-this is a CD/DVD set for under $20.
A concert film/recording of Dan's 60th birthday concert at SF's
Warfield Theater last year. Humor, great music with all his past
bandmates, and a violin summit with David LaFlamme and Sid Page
on "I Scare Myself" that will leave you trembling!
7 THE BEATLES-LET IT BE NAKED-in which the fabs are
revealed as the world's greatest garage band. Better mixing job
than the Yellow Sub remix. Sonically wonderful (mostly). There was
really no need to do this-Spector's version of the album is still
superior- but still a fun listen. What they should've done: put
out a 2 CD set with the complete rooftop concert, filled out with
unreleased stuff from the hundreds of hours of "Get Back" session
tapes. They never consult me on this stuff.

Fave 2003 DVD releases
A MIGHTY WIND- Guest's best! Spoofs the 60's folk scene and
manages to be touching at the same time. The actors wrote their own
songs! Hilarious and worthy of multiple viewings.
THE BEATLES-ED SULLIVAN PRESENTS-the complete
broadcasts, commercials, dog acts and all. A real time capsule.
2 DVDs for around $20.
JONI MITCHELL-WOMAN OF HEART AND MIND-
delightful long awaited documentary on Joni hits all the right
notes.
JONI MITCHELL-SHADOWS AND LIGHT-finally in stores,
the landmark concert film with Jaco, Methany and Co. No false
alarms here.

Fave 2003 concerts
CROSBY STILLS AND NASH-(March, Clear Lake, CA)
Whether acoustic or electric, the guys were better than ever.
A rich musical experience! (and you betta be rich to afford
the tickets). Still worth every penny.
COUNTRY JOE MCDONALD solo-(June, Laytonville, CA)
intimate and delightful. Joe is the Woody Guthrie of our time.
KATE WOLF FOLK FESTIVAL w/Taj Mahal, Iris Dement,
many others-(June, Laytonville, CA) annual event. Very enjoyable.
Taj and his Hawaiian style band were excellent.
THE BANGLES-(August, GG Park, SF CA) The girls can
really rock-and their joy was obvious. Best 12 bucks I've ever
spent.
THE ROLLING STONES-HBO CONCERT-damn, these guys
are rocking better than ever, too.

Not sure what to make of:
RICKIE LEE JONES-EVENING OF MY BEST DAY-hailed
as a return to form...maybe this will grow on me. Nice layers of
vocals, prozac wallpaper sonic textures. I gotta say, the whole
baby talk singing style is wearing thin (as it did with Sting long ago).

Some anti-Bush content. Overall, it's pretty hard to catch the
lyrics, which are not included. Great artwork/package, with no
apparent connection to RLJ. I wanted to rave about this, but
feel lukewarm.
NELLY FURTADO-FOLKLORE-more trancy/repititious
songwriting style than her first one. No really outstanding songs
like "Legend" and "Like a Bird". Nice song w/ Brasil's Caetano
Veloso. This one may grow on me too.

RR

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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 20:45:49 -0000
From: "amelio747" <amelio@sev47.fsnet.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Joni Compilation

 "Mark Tatum" <MTatum@lasccoa.state.la.us> wrote:
> My last suggestion is Trouble Man from A Day in the
> Garden (8/15/98). I like her version better than the original.

Not heard that version but was totally blown away by the one on PWWM video.
I also think the "Comes Love" performance is much better than the one on
BSN.

"Moon At The Window" has my vote anyday. I love that song! Listening to the
WTRF vers there seems to be so much going on and it's really quite jazzy and
her singing is brilliant.

Oh and I'll nominate "In France They Kiss On Mainstreet" from the Hissing
Demos because I think it is a lot different because the THOSL vers is so
much more electric. I do love both versions though!
NP: Three Great Stimulants - Joni

* * * * * *
Stephen T

"I get the urge for going
 But I never seem to go"

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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 22:54:12 +1100
From: "ash" <millsac@bigpond.com>
Subject: Re: MARILLION eWeb: Studio Time

Can I include this?
- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: <marillion.eweb@marillion.com>
To: <millsac@bigpond.com>
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 8:40 AM
Subject: MARILLION eWeb: Studio Time


> Is it December already?
> 
> It is.. and that means the Marbles deadline is close! If you 
> haven't pre-ordered already, don't forget you only have until 
> 31st December 2003 to get your name listed in our extra-special 
> Deluxe Campaign Edition pre-order book.
> 
> Head on over to http://www.marillion.com/marbles before time 
> runs out!
> 
> Time is a tricky thing, too. Einstein may have been a genius 
> but he failed to notice the phenomena of "Studio Time" - the 
> strange acceleration of the clock (and consequent shortening of 
> the hours, days and weeks) as soon as one enters the control 
> room of a recording studio.
> 
> The process of plugging in a microphone or guitar which would 
> take only a few short minutes in the kitchen, will easily use up 
> an hour as soon as the control room is closed and "studio time" 
> is entered. 14-hour working days are needed to accomplish what 
> would only take an hour in the outside world. An egg, when boiled 
> steadily in a studio, will still be runny after four hours! It 
> is for this reason alone that our album still isn't finished.
> 
> Dave is working like a dog, and (after a number of days 
> overdubbing on "Pacific Rower", (Atlantic Rower, Ocean Rower, 
> Sweet Ocean Cloud, or whatever we eventually call it) the first 
> signs of scurvy have set in, causing loosening of the teeth, 
> stunted growth and skin disease. We've added limes to his diet 
> and he's improving steadily.
> 
> I'm still paying the occasional visit to listen to old and new 
> vocal takes, and then running off with my hard-drive full of 
> voices to select my favourite tunes and moments. Each time I 
> return, everything sounds better. I wonder what you'll all 
> make of it..
> 
> The festive season is upon us and we'll take a short break to do 
> the thing. By January I'll be trying bits of backing vocal along 
> with Pete (the BV meister) and perhaps we'll even persuade Mark to 
> join in. He really has a nice voice if you can coax it out of him.
> 
> We've put up some more sound clips for youas a Christmas pressie
> at http://www.marillion.com/marbles/clips if you want to hear how 
> it's shaping up... And so the tale of the lost and remembered 
> marbles is almost told.. They'll be rattling around in YOUR head 
> soon enough.
> 
> We hope Santa brings you happiness, rude health, whatever else 
> you deserve, and that 2004 brings us all closer together.
> 
> Peace.
> And love.
> 
> h, Ian, Mark, Pete, Steve
> 
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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 17:59:15 -0500
From: <jlamadoo@fuse.net>
Subject: [none]

Sure, Raffaele, this is easy to do if you have a CD burner attached to your stereo.  Most DVD players have right and left OUTputs, just like a CD player, on RCA jacks.

If you have a CD burner plugged into your stereo, it has right and left INputs, just like a cassette deck.  You temporarily attach a cord from the DVD-outs to the CD-burner-ins.  Set the levels and record.

If your CD burner is on your computer, you need to go to an electronics shop (like Radio Shack) to get the proper cord.  Tell them you need to hook your computer to the stereo.  The proper bit of kit has a mini-stereo-headphone plug but the other end has a pair of RCA plugs.  The RCA jacks fit into your DVD player's Right and Left outputs.  The other end (the mini-stereo-headphone plug) goes into your computer's "Audio IN" jack.  If you use a PC (instead of a Mac), you control the volume with the computer's "Line In" slider.

Plugs have pointed ends (male) and jacks have sockets (female).

If someone else has already answered this, I don't know it because I'm on Digest.  I'm answering on the list in case someone else wants this info.

All the best,
Lama

From: "Raffaele Malanga" <>
>does anybody know how to transfer the audio from a DVD to a normal CD 
> or mp3? I'd love to be able to listen to PWWAM and other DVDs and 
> not just watching them.

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Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 01:49:39 +0000
From: "Timothy Spong" <tim_spong@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: Joni Compilations (Why is "WMMR is a misprint)?

  I am puzzled by "(WMMR is a misprint)" below. WMMR was and is an FM radio 
station in Philadelphia. In the late 1960s and some time beyond, it was a 
progressive station, apparently one of the ones where, in the past, folk 
maven Gene Shay held forth, possibly during those exact years. He is now 
associated with WXPN, the AAA station affiliated with the University of 
Pennsylvania, and WMMR plays hard rock. In 1967 and 1968, I could hear WMMR 
when I was home in Dover, Del., from Duke University in Durham, N.C., for 
summer, semester breaks or holidays -- or was it 1969 or 1970 until I 
discovered it? Not sure. While I don't remember hearing Joni Mitchell at 
all, there was other compatible music.

  Tim Spong
  Dover, Del., U.S.A.




Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:31:26 -0500
From: Doug <dmeek@falls.igs.net>
Subject: Re: Joni Compilation

I will be receiving soon a 3 disc set called  The Posall ans the Mosalm.
It contains all of
the Second Fret Sets plus others from the Second Fret Coffee House and
the local
Philadelphia radio station. (WMMR is a misprint) More discs on the way,
I'll keep you posted.
Doug

Posall and the Mosalm Vol.1 contains:

Live at the Second Fret,Philadelphia 10/12/67 (Night in the
City,Come to the Sunshine,Chelsea Morning,Conversation,
I Had A King,Cactus Tree,Little Green,Marcie,London
Bridge,Ballerina Valeriel, Michael from Mountains,The Drummer
Man, I Don't Know Where I stand, & Both Sides Now)
WMMR Philadelphia Studios 5/28/67, Sugar Mountain, WMMR
Studios 11/19/66 (with Chuck Mitchell), Circle game,
Interview

Posall and the Mosalm Vol.2 contains:

Live at the Second Fret Club Philadelphia 3/17/67 (Morning
Morgantown,Born to take the Highway,Eastern Rain, Circle
Game, Song to a Seagull, Carnival in Kenora, Brandy Eyes,
Winter Lady, Mr. Blue, Urge for Going, Both Sides Now, Night
in the City, Circle Game, & Conversation)

Posall and the Mosalm Vol.3 contains:

WMMR Studios Fall 1968 (Sisowtobell Lane, The Gallery,
Nathan LaFraneer)
WMMR Studios 3/12/67 (Both Sides Now, Night in the City, and
Circle Game)
Second Fret Club 11/66 (Brandy Eyes, Urge for Going,
Mr. Blue, Eastern Rain, Circle Game, and Night in the City)

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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 21:28:52 -0500
From: Doug <dmeek@falls.igs.net>
Subject: Re: Joni Compilations (Why is "WMMR is a misprint)?

It's complicated and I don't know if I have all my facts right but here 
goes:
Gene Shay, who interviewed Joni and I assume made the recordings,
worked at WHAT at the time. He later moved to WMMR and had a 2 hour
Joni "retrospective" show in Jan.1974 in which he unearthed the tapes from
1966/67/68. This show contained  the songs used on The Second Fret Sets.
 I guess someone taped the show and put it out on vinyl.
Unless Gene himself did it, but I wouldn't think so.
The (1974) show has been  transcribed for the JMDL archives.
Again, I may be wrong on some details. If so feel free to correct
me. I won't cry. Promise
Doug

Timothy Spong wrote:

>  I am puzzled by "(WMMR is a misprint)" below. WMMR was and is an FM 
> radio station in Philadelphia. In the late 1960s and some time beyond, 
> it was a progressive station, apparently one of the ones where, in the 
> past, folk maven Gene Shay held forth, possibly during those exact 
> years. He is now associated with WXPN, the AAA station affiliated with 
> the University of Pennsylvania, and WMMR plays hard rock. In 1967 and 
> 1968, I could hear WMMR when I was home in Dover, Del., from Duke 
> University in Durham, N.C., for summer, semester breaks or holidays -- 
> or was it 1969 or 1970 until I discovered it? Not sure. While I don't 
> remember hearing Joni Mitchell at all, there was other compatible music.
>
>  Tim Spong
>  Dover, Del., U.S.A.
>
>
>
>
> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:31:26 -0500
> From: Doug <dmeek@falls.igs.net>
> Subject: Re: Joni Compilation
>
> I will be receiving soon a 3 disc set called  The Posall ans the Mosalm.
> It contains all of
> the Second Fret Sets plus others from the Second Fret Coffee House and
> the local
> Philadelphia radio station. (WMMR is a misprint) More discs on the way,
> I'll keep you posted.
> Doug
>
> Posall and the Mosalm Vol.1 contains:
>
> Live at the Second Fret,Philadelphia 10/12/67 (Night in the
> City,Come to the Sunshine,Chelsea Morning,Conversation,
> I Had A King,Cactus Tree,Little Green,Marcie,London
> Bridge,Ballerina Valeriel, Michael from Mountains,The Drummer
> Man, I Don't Know Where I stand, & Both Sides Now)
> WMMR Philadelphia Studios 5/28/67, Sugar Mountain, WMMR
> Studios 11/19/66 (with Chuck Mitchell), Circle game,
> Interview
>
> Posall and the Mosalm Vol.2 contains:
>
> Live at the Second Fret Club Philadelphia 3/17/67 (Morning
> Morgantown,Born to take the Highway,Eastern Rain, Circle
> Game, Song to a Seagull, Carnival in Kenora, Brandy Eyes,
> Winter Lady, Mr. Blue, Urge for Going, Both Sides Now, Night
> in the City, Circle Game, & Conversation)
>
> Posall and the Mosalm Vol.3 contains:
>
> WMMR Studios Fall 1968 (Sisowtobell Lane, The Gallery,
> Nathan LaFraneer)
> WMMR Studios 3/12/67 (Both Sides Now, Night in the City, and
> Circle Game)
> Second Fret Club 11/66 (Brandy Eyes, Urge for Going,
> Mr. Blue, Eastern Rain, Circle Game, and Night in the City)
>
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