From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2003 #335 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Monday, October 27 2003 Volume 2003 : Number 335 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: warm and cold chords ["mike pritchard" ] Re: Jewel and Joni [LCStanley7@aol.com] Joni, Nash and Crosby [Doug ] Re: singers/songwriters/recording artists [Bobsart48@aol.com] crosby, nash and f*cking Jewel ["Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" ] WOHAM ["Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" ] crosby, nash and f*cking Jewel ["Kate Bennett" ] Joni, Dylan, Judy et.al. covered in "Eight Miles High" [BRYAN8847@aol.com] Re: Joni and heavy loads [LCStanley7@aol.com] Today in History: October 27 [ljirvin@jmdl.com] Today's Library Links: October 27 [ljirvin@jmdl.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 12:12:15 +0100 From: "mike pritchard" Subject: Re: warm and cold chords >>So what chords do ya'll think are warm and cold?<< And does anyone know the name of the 'weird minor chord' mentioned on the Mingus album? mike in rainy barcelona ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 09:11:59 EST From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: Jewel and Joni Paul of the Netherlands wrote: > Then again -- I think Jewel is bag of potatoes, intellectually. I think her > work sucks and I DO understand that Joni is frustrated when Jewel was > compared > to her. I took a road trip with a 20 year old friend and played Joni CD's... a 4 hour trip up into the Ozarks and 4 hours back down to Little Rock. At the end of the trip he said he listens to Jewel and prefers her to Joni. I hadn't heard Jewel so I borrowed a CD from him. I didn't listen to the whole thing because I got tired of it pretty quick. Jewel reminds me more of Madonna with a baby tone to her voice rather than Joni with a refined voice. Joni had a refined voice from the start... even singing with Chuck. My 20 year old friend missed it. But, I have to think maybe some seeds will grow now that he's heard so much Joni. Smile! I guess I'm a Joni evangelist to the young. Just yesterday I was playing guitar (This Flight Tonight) on my front porch and a little neighbor girl who has a guitar came up to listen. I asked her if she'd heard of Joni before, and she hadn't so I put on the WOHAM DVD and let her get to know Joni. She was fascinated. Last week, there was a medical student in my class (150 students... lots to evangelize!) who was listening to music while studying so I asked him what he was listening to and then asked him if he'd heard of Joni. He hadn't. I told him lots about her and recommended he listen to Blue. He said his dad might have some Joni albums and he will listen. I think he was somewhat surprised I was talking about Joni rather than bone and cartilage. But really Joni is the back bone of musical poetry and has opened up a whole new use of guitar much in the same way Van Gogh opened up a whole new use of colors. The youth will get it in time. Edison, Einstein, Van Gogh, Joni... it takes time. Fondly, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 09:27:49 -0500 From: Doug Subject: Joni, Nash and Crosby A tiny bit of history: http://www.lehibou.ca/nash.html Doug ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 09:52:21 EST From: Bobsart48@aol.com Subject: Re: singers/songwriters/recording artists G'nH Beeing a sing&songwriter myself, Joni has been the most important influence on me. I found my way to the forum when searching inromation about Joni Mitchell. It's great to have a forum like this. It just a one good example about how strong influence Joni has had for so many people. Peace and blessings, G'n H Hardly alone here on the list ! Although I am not among them, this list numbers quite a number of singer/songwriters, performers and recording artists. Would someone who knows everybody - and you know who you are - care to take a shot at such a list, risking the occasional omission ? Bobsart ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 11:53:43 -0500 From: "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: crosby, nash and f*cking Jewel Hi Paul, About Crosby, a friend of a friend stalked Crosby to his motel room on the day of a show and knocked on the door. Casey asked David for an autograph and David gave it and they had a talk. At the venue, however, Crosby was in "work" mode and wouldn't talk to anyone. In his bio, it details how he had at least 2 girlfriends for a decade, until Christine died in a car wreck. David's a mixed bag, like most of us. :) About Nash, I see your point about putting Joni on the sexist pedestal. Personally, I'd be extremely effusive too, but I do see what you mean. Ironcially, many of the women on the JMDL who commented about Nash, both on the WOH&M film and at the PWW&M film, kinda swooned over him a bit & think he's a really gentleman. I think Graham is a mixed bag, like most of us. :) Lama, who's sorta a mixed bag, like... Paul Mepschen said, >I have never met David Crosby but I believe he's a prick--- on the other hand, what would you do if you were walking through Dublin and someone else walks up to you only because you were in a famous, be it somewhat mediocre folk-rock band once. But that is not my point. My point is that when I was watching WOHAM I was annoyed not by David Crosby -- who at least has a kind of dignified respect for Joni -- but with Nash. He keeps treating her like this precious little thing. It is the kind of subtle sexism that is typical of many men who think they are oh-so-liber ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 12:11:39 -0800 From: "Victor Johnson" Subject: RE: crosby, nash and f*cking Jewel we're all bozos on this bus............... Victor NP: Belle and Sebastian - Like Dylan in the Movies > Lama, who's sorta a mixed bag, like... > > > Paul Mepschen said, > >I have never met David Crosby but I believe he's a prick--- on the other > hand, > what would you do if you were walking through Dublin and someone else walks > up > to you only because you were in a famous, be it somewhat mediocre folk-rock > band once. But that is not my point. My point is that when I was watching > WOHAM I was annoyed not by David Crosby -- who at least has a kind of > dignified respect for Joni -- but with Nash. He keeps treating her > like this precious little > thing. It is the kind of subtle sexism that is typical of many men who think > they are oh-so-liber ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 12:19:40 -0500 From: "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Re: WOHAM Bob, I absolutely agree that Joni's work is complete. It really weird because after I read Karen's bio, I said that exact thing in an essay last June. See my next post. About Nash, you and I read it differently. Ya see, he wanted to marry her and she dropped him. To me, he seemed like a guy who married Susan and still loves Joni a bit. It's awkward to be involved with a new girlfriend and be interviewed about an old one, but I thought his respect for her talent came through in bold type and #48 font. I'm not arguing, okay? I'm just saying. He could have rejected the interview (like Bob Dylan probably did) but he participated. Has everyone seen the outtake quote by Crosby on one of the websites where he says, "Of all of us song-writers, I think Joan will be remembered as the best of us all. I really do and I've said it many times." One more word on Crosby? Yeah, he has had some bad days. He's also someone who saw her in a coffeehouse and was blown away. He used his clout in the Industry to make sure that her first album was Joni-like and NOT over-produced. That's the act of someone with enormous respect and love that he transmuted into action. The Crosby glass is half-full. That reminds me of an old joke that Emmylou Harris told at the "Tall Stacks Music and Heritage Festival" here in Cincinnati this month. "Here's an 'engineer' joke. It's okay. My brother is an engineer. Are there any engineers in the house? He sent me this joke, okay? An optimist sees a 1/2 glass of water and says it's half full. A pessimist says the glass is half empty. An engineer says the glass is twice as big as it needs to be." Lama np: $1 Cat Stevens album, on LP obviously. Hey I thought he was too sappy to buy when I was 17 but it's worth $1, eh? the critic (It sounded like Flanagan ?)said that in having discovered her lost daughter and grandchildren, that in a way her life's work had sort of become complete. Graham Nash seemed to make out that Joni was mad..ie her going into a trance for hours....being there but not being there .....( I do that all the time at work!).....maybe that was my interpretation of what he said, he seemed like a jaded/spurned lover! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 12:24:00 -0500 From: "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: WOHAM Sorry Bob. I was responding to the post from "Ash". Now I see that your response starts with "Well, I feel I must demur here." I see the change in writing style now but I didn't when I started writing. Without the quote marks it's tough to follow... Lama ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 09:51:46 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: crosby, nash and f*cking Jewel You make a good point about the dublin walk...not everyone is willing to play the 'celebrity role' to strangers 24/7...that is why you often here people say they like living in nyc or la or even sb cuz folks leave them alone... I can see how you'd from an opinion of someone you haven't met from what you have heard or read...but its never the whole story...as far as graham nash goes I have to say I couldn't disagree with you more... I have met him & he impressed me as one of the most humble & generous & sincere men I have ever met (celeb or not). He came up & introduced himself to me which was amazing as I am nobody (in the world of celebs) & his loyalty to croz is legendary...we should all be so lucky to have someone like nash as our friend...also he is an amazing harmony singer... , generous & as high quality human being as one can be. you are way off on your a >I have never met David Crosby but I believe he's a prick--- on the other hand, what would you do if you were walking through Dublin and someone else walks up to you only because you were in a famous, be it somewhat mediocre folk-rock band once. But that is not my point. My point is that when I was watching WOHAM I was annoyed not by David Crosby -- who at least has a kind of dignified respect for Joni -- but with Nash. I think he is a mediocre prick.< ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 13:41:01 EST From: BRYAN8847@aol.com Subject: Joni, Dylan, Judy et.al. covered in "Eight Miles High" http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,1413,36~28~1719604,00.html Does anybody else love the song "Eight Miles High" too? It's the coolest. Bryan ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 15:42:30 EST From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni and heavy loads Michael in Quebec wrote: > Coincidence, the link Les just posted called A Darker Shade of Blue (1994) > that also makes reference to Joni's excess baggage. Strange echoes... > http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=226 > Here's hoping she learns to lighten that heavy load. This article from years past said to me that Joni does know how to deal successfully with a heavy load. Cool that her experience led her to understand Job and that she cares equally about women and men regarding liberation. She's just so awesome! Yes, I am very taken with her as my husband has pointed out to me. Joni is an example of living life on life's terms as we say in AA. She's real and free. What people say about her or how they interpret quotes from her isn't necessarily the way she is. Assumptions, especially those based on gossip, are about as grounded as air. Living in the joy of Joni, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 02:07:18 -0500 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today in History: October 27 1987: Joni performed at the "Cowboys for Indians and Justice for Leonard Peltier" benefit in front of an estimated 9,000 people at the Pacific Amphitheatre in Costa Mesa, California. Joni concentrated on recent material, previewing a new song ("Lakota") and offering a dramatic rendition of "Tax Free." More info: http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=161 - ---- For a comprehensive reference to Joni's appearances, consult Joni Mitchell ~ A Chronology of Appearances: http://www.jonimitchell.com/appearances.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 02:07:18 -0500 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Library Links: October 27 On October 27 the following articles were published: 1994: "They Repaved Paradise" - New York Daily News (Interview) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=218 1999: "Mitchell Completes Album Of Standards" - Billboard (News Item) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=436 2002: "Graham Nash talks about the moment " - NPR Weekend Edition Sunday (Mention) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=975 ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2003 #335 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? 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