From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2003 #327 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Sunday, October 19 2003 Volume 2003 : Number 327 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Re: Re: Eastern Rain [dean2302@fsmail.net] Early Gems [dean2302@fsmail.net] Re: Early Gems ["amelio747" ] Re: Early Gems [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Jonifest 03 ["J.David Sapp" ] Foiled Again is back - more Joni please [Rdalindley@aol.com] re: Lakota ["mia ortlieb" ] woodstock for piano? ["Kate Bennett" ] FW: "Lakota", the story behind the song... ["Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Re: Jonifest 03 ["Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Blue Movie [ash ] Today in History: October 19 [ljirvin@jmdl.com] Today's Library Links: October 19 [ljirvin@jmdl.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 11:30:51 +0200 (CEST) From: dean2302@fsmail.net Subject: Re: Re: Re: Eastern Rain Excellent Deb. Thank's very much for that; I thought it a little strange. It must be difficult to disown what appears to be such a personal song. See also my 'Early Gems' post. ~Kevin Message date : Oct 17 2003, 06:46 PM From : Deb Messling To : dean2302@fsmail.net Copy to : joni@smoe.org Subject : Re: Re: Eastern Rain Did you read my clarifying post? Joni was referring to London Bridge, not Eastern Rain, when she called a song "pure nonsense." It's a little hard to tell from the transcript, but on tape it's clear. The confusion stems from the fact that she and Gene were kind of talking over each other. JM: "London Bridge." God, that's years ago that I did that. GS: Yeah, a lot of people called and said, yeah, what about the old songs? How come -- JM: Well, they're like old paintings. It's like if you're an art student, you have a portfolio full of paintings and you look back over it and you say, "my God, when did I do that? How did I do that?" And you can't identify with it after a while. Some songs -- some songs that are -- I'm afraid are lost until I reidentify with them. GS: Isn't it a shame that a lot of contemporary singer-songwriters, they write -- say you write 20 songs, just to use any number and they record their first album and they leave off some of the songs that everybody liked, and then they sort of move on to new things and feel the same way about their old songs, but people still, you know, never heard -- for instance, you're going to record a second album, and you're not sure at this point I don't think if you're going to record "From Both Sides, Now" which you haven't recorded. JM: Oh, I think I'll record that. GS: But you may never record "London Bridge" or -- JM: I don't even remember how I did that. That was really strange the way I used to do that. GS: Or "Eastern Rain." JM: I wrote -- that was just after I got back from London. It was pure nonsense and I can't remember anything about it now. At 04:03 PM 10/17/2003 +0200, you wrote: >Thanks Bob and Paul. I guess that Joni thinks it might be a little too >'derivative' like some of her other early stuff. I still think it's lovely >though. >Maybe because Joni wrote it after she returned from London she experienced >some of our depressing U.K. 'Eastern' rain. LOL > >~Kevin - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Deb Messling -^..^- messling@enter.net - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 11:34:32 +0200 (CEST) From: dean2302@fsmail.net Subject: Early Gems O.K., Apart from Eastern Rain are there any other early 'unrecorded' gems that I should be laying my mitts on. At present I only have the 'Looking Out For Love' CD. If anyone could point me in the right direction I would be eternally grateful. ~Kevin ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 11:18:14 +0100 From: "amelio747" Subject: Re: Early Gems "Day After Day" "Blue On Blue" & "Brandy Eyes" are my favourite early Joni songs. ************** Steve T amelio@sev47.fsnet.co.uk "Red is autumn green is summer Greens are turning and the sand" - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2003 10:34 AM Subject: Early Gems > O.K., Apart from Eastern Rain are there any other early 'unrecorded' gems that I should be laying my mitts on. At present I only have the 'Looking Out For Love' CD. If anyone could point me in the right direction I would be eternally grateful. > > ~Kevin ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 08:59:53 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Early Gems *Apart from Eastern Rain are there any other early 'unrecorded' gems that I should be laying my mitts on. At present I only have the 'Looking Out For Love' CD. If anyone could point me in the right direction I would be eternally grateful.* There's a mess of 'em, Kevin. I'm working on re-consolidating them onto 2 cd's...here's some titles: 1. Play Little David, Play 2. The Wizard Of Is 3. The Gift Of The Magi 4. The Way It Is 5. Day After Day 6. Dr. Junk 7. Brandy Eyes 8. Mr. Blue 9. Eastern Rain 10. Born To Take The Highway 11. Carnival In Kenora 12. Winter Lady 13. Just Like Me 14. Blue On Blue 15. Sugar Mountain 16. Come To The Sunshine 17. The London Bridge Song 18. Ballerina Valerie 1. Go Tell The Drummer Man 2. A Melody In Your Name 3. Looking Out For Love 4. Hunter 5. Get Together 6. Mr. Tambourine Man 7. I Still Miss Someone (w/Johnny Cash) 8. Yarrow 9. The Dolphin Song (w/Fred Neill) 10. The Long Black Veil (w/Johnny Cash) 11. Girl From The North Country (w/Johnny Cash) 12. Heard It Through The Grapevine 13. Itbs All Over Now, Baby Blue 14. Favorite Colour 15. Blow Away The Morning Dew 16. Me & My Uncle Maybe I'll do it this weekend, except for it's such a beautiful day here, even raking leaves will be pleasurable! Bob NP: Rachel Z Trio, "Ladies Man" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 11:37:40 -0500 From: "J.David Sapp" Subject: Re: Jonifest 03 > Wait till you get to Guzzi's Don't Know Why> Haven't heard that yet - lookin' forward to it. > And of course Polifka could sing the yellow pages and it would be > resounding and stellar!> Not a shabby songwriter either - The Distance of Your Heart (TDOYH - hee, hee) is pretty superb and he and Muller on backup are awesome. I am really lovin' this stuff - maybe some day I'll make it, I think I'd be in heaven. peace, david ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 13:19:46 EDT From: Rdalindley@aol.com Subject: Foiled Again is back - more Joni please Dark Cafe Days: Foiled Again sings Joni Mitchell returns to Davenport's for one night only [Unable to display image] Friday, October 24th @ 10:30 PM "Highly Recommended" - Chicago Sun-Times 2003 After Dark Award winner! Outstanding Cabaret Artists Come check it out if you missed us this Spring or if you just need your Joni Mitchell fix. We'll be singing lots of your favorties Help Me, Circle Game, Big Yellow Taxi. Call now for reservations: Davenport's Piano Bar + Cabaret 1383 N Milwaukee 773.278.1830 davenportspianobar.com $15 cover + 2 drink minimum Foiled Again is Allison Bazarko, Rob Lindley, and Anne Sheridan Smith with Mike Descoteaux on piano [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of joni card copy.jpg] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 12:43:48 -0500 From: "mia ortlieb" Subject: re: Lakota Like Bob said, this is probably the music video from the "Come in From the Cold" tape. It's interesting to watch, because the lyrics are so depressing and stark, yet the Lakota people in the video look very happy and are lip-synching to Joni's song. I'm not sure where this was filmed. My guess would be Wounded Knee in South Dakota as there is a picture of Mount Rushmore also in the clip. It doesn't appear that the Lakota people are offended by Joni's song. But Kate does bring up a good point. Perhaps after Joni wrote the song, she may have had second thoughts about releasing it and then later approached the Lakota people for their opinion and/or support. Joni lets the Lakota children do some of the filming too and credits them in the video. Mia - np: Neil Young - Revolution Blues _________________________________________________________________ Surf and talk on the phone at the same time with broadband Internet access. Get high-speed for as low as $29.95/month (depending on the local service providers in your area). https://broadband.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 16:45:54 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: woodstock for piano? does anyone have the piano music for woodstock, a friend of mine would like to do it for our join tribute but doesn't know where to find it...if you can send to me via email attachment i can forward it to her...thanks! ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 20:35:50 -0400 From: "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: FW: "Lakota", the story behind the song... Reposting so it's clear to all that Joni Mitchell was not exploiting the Lakota nation... Lama - -----Original Message----- From: Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 10:30 PM To: _JMDL Subject: "Lakota", the story behind the song... About "Lakota", Joni said, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have a friend who is a Macatek Indian. His name is Federico. He owned a shop down the street from where we were recording in Santa Monica. I went in to see him one afternoon before going to work on this song and he told me there was an Indian artifact show at the Santa Monica Civic Auditorium opening at 5 o'clock that afternoon. He said, "There's gonna be some great stuff there like hummingbird baskets." Hummingbird and eagle feathers are illegal now, like elephant ivory, and would have to be sold under the counter. Federico said I should go early and meet him there because he knew the merchants and they would show me those rare old things. So, at 4 o'clock, I told Shipley and Klein, "I want to leave for an hour," and Klein said, "Joan-Joan, we need you here!" In all my recording career, this is the only time I can recall that I was in the studio and wanted to be someplace else. I told them I would only be gone for an hour. Again they protested. Just then the machines went down and I said, "Okay! Down time!" and I borrowed ten dollars and a watch and promised to be back in an hour. I left. Inside the Santa Monica Civic, this woman came up to me, stuck a 16mm (film) camera in my face and asked, "What are you here for?" I looked into the lens and said, "I'm here to look at the artifacts and I can't stay very long." She asked, still filming, "Do you know Iron Eyes Cody?" I said, "No." "Would you like to meet him?" "Okay," I say. Up comes Iron Eyes Cody wearing a grey braided wig (he'd gone bald) tied like a bonnet under his chin. He had on gobs of turquoise. I say to him, "Do you know any Indian songs?" And he says, "Well yes, I know a few." And I say, "Would you sing me on?" Now we're standing in the aisle of this Indian show, he tilts back his head and goes, "Hey-ya-ho-ho, hey-ya-ho, hey-ya-ho, hey-ya, hey-ya," and I'm delighted. Now I say to him, "What are you doing right now?" And he says, "Well I'm going to dinner with some people at 9 o'clock." I say, "I'm recording nearby. It's a song about the Lakota and the Black Hills. Would you come and sing on it?" And he says, "You want me to overdub?" So I come back to the studio. I'm 20 minutes late. I come back with four Indians and a film crew. The machine is still down, but Klein and Shipley give me the stink-eye anyway, like I broke my promise. They finally fix the machine and we play back "Lakota" for Iron Eyes. He listens with his eyes closed and when it's over, he says, "Oh, it's got the haunting! I think you're turning Indian! You want me to overdub?" So, Iron Eyes Cody overdubs his beautiful song. He has just finished when we hear this clap of thunder. He and I rush to the back door and standing on the back steps, we see coming down the telephone wire - a golden ball of lightning - riding on the lines and its coming straight at the building. I run into the studio and yell, "Get the tapes off the heads!" That electrical storm was only in Santa Monica - nowhere else in L.A. I'd never seen ball lightning before. I haven't seen it since." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lama ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 01:09:27 -0400 From: "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Joni joke JL: Have you ever heard Joni play guitar in monotone? JMDL: No, when does that happen? JL: Anytime she plays on that God-forsaken VG-8. Lama np: Shawn & her buddies doing "Mona Lisa" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 01:24:20 -0400 From: "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Re: Jonifest 03 Back vocals by Claudia San Soucie & the Choral Director To The Inner Circle, Jenny Goodspeed. They did that so well, I was BEAMING, I'll tell ya. Not every performance has to slavishly reproduce the record, but Claud and Jenny nailed it on every chorus. Lama >>>I heard some more great covers last night: Ashara - Come in from the Cold, loved the background vocals supporting Ashara also.>>> ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 10:59:23 +1000 From: ash Subject: Blue Movie From Tasmania There I was in the dentist... and reading a magazine in the waiting room and near the back page (page 77) which I tore out.....try doing that with the receptionist watching...... is this a crime?..defacing year old waiting room magazines?? From the WHO magazine (Australian) dated 1/4 /2002...yeah typical.. under the heading HEAR&NOW by Rob Brunner a small pic of Joni and these words.. 'BLUE MOVIE After setting her past three feature films in a musical milieu, Allison Anders (Gas Food Lodging) is making a documentary about - surprise- a musician: Joni Mitchell. Anders is shooting the recording sessions for Mitchell's next album. which finds the singer revisiting vintage originals such as "Circle Game" with the London Symphony Orchestra-and pairing with "day players" such as Ry Cooder, Billy Preston, Herbie Hancock and (tentatively) Neil Young. "Some of it is material she did as a young girl, with a soprano voice and an acoustic guitar, now with an orchestra and an alto," says Anders. "It's so interesting to hear these same songs with wisdom. Not that she wasn't wise before, but it's like. 'I thought I was on to something then, and now I know I am.'" end quote..... is that enough Joni content? Ash ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 02:27:25 -0400 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today in History: October 19 2001: Author Margaret Atwood and Joni attended the ceremony to unveil their "stars" on Canada's Walk of Fame. The ceremony was held at noon in front of the Royal Alexandra Theatre, 260 King Street West in Toronto. The same evening, "An Hommage to Joni Mitchell" was held at the Liberty Grand. Many tributes were expressed, and Joni improvised on the piano and played demo tapes of her new album. More info: http://www.jmdl.com/performances/docs/011019.cfm http://www.jonimitchell.com/star/StarUnveiling.html - ---- For a comprehensive reference to Joni's appearances, consult Joni Mitchell ~ A Chronology of Appearances: http://www.jonimitchell.com/appearances.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 02:27:25 -0400 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Library Links: October 19 On October 19 the following articles were published: 2001: "Canada Honors Joni" - RollingStone.com (News Item) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=685 2001: "Joni Mitchell, Margaret Atwood added to stars on Walk of Fame" - Yahoo News Canada (News Item) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=684 2001: "Stoking the Star" - Toronto Globe and Mail (Appreciation) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=681 ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2003 #327 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? 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