From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2003 #285 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Thursday, September 11 2003 Volume 2003 : Number 285 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Intolerance Achievement Award [Melissa ] Re: Intolerance Achievement Award [Catherine McKay ] DARK CAFE DAYS RETURNS' [Rdalindley@aol.com] Re: Intolerance Achievement Award [Melissa ] DARK CAFE DAYS returns to Chicago [Rdalindley@aol.com] JMDL Digest V2003 #455 [HOOPSJOHN1@aol.com] music for depressed days ["patrick leader" ] Re:Intolerance Achievement Award [MINGSDANCE@aol.com] Re: music for depressed days ["kerry" ] Re: Intolerance Achievement Award [cul heath ] RE: JMDL members' musical recommendations follow up with Joni Content ["] Like>>> ["Suzanne MarcAurele" ] top 5? [HOOPSJOHN1@aol.com] nonsense [HOOPSJOHN1@aol.com] Re: DARK CAFE DAYS returns to Chicago [Susan Guzzi Subject: Intolerance Achievement Award Reading the posts in response to "Getting to Know You" has prompted me to propose a competition for the most intolerant comment made about Joni. I have two entries, both attributed to my husband (he is a high achiever when it comes to intolerance of Joni). My first ever Joni CD was "Hits" which includes the track Woodstock (some of you will recall from my earlier post that I was rather fond of playing my "Hits" CD). Anyway, one day, my husband Peter came home from work on a Saturday in a particularly tetchy mood and walked into the house at the end of Woodstock - you know the bit where Joni is sort of, well, wailing. My husband screamed "Who is that screaming banshee?" This only made me want to play Joni at more frequent intervals and at higher volumes. The second entry occurred just last night while he was driving my car. The Hissing of Summer Lawns was playing on the CD (Harry's House, to be precise). Naturally, when he turned the ignition on, Joni came blaring out of the speakers. His comment last night was "When are you going to grow out of your obsession with this bitch?" I told him the bad news - Joni is here to stay. Over to you... NP: Joni "screaming" Woodstock ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 06:34:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Intolerance Achievement Award --- Melissa wrote: The > Hissing of Summer Lawns was playing on the CD > (Harry's House, to be > precise). Naturally, when he turned the ignition > on, Joni came blaring out > of the speakers. His comment last night was "When > are you going to grow out > of your obsession with this bitch?" I told him the > bad news - Joni is here > to stay. And he's not, of course? ;) ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 08:18:21 EDT From: Chorando6@aol.com Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2003 #455 In a message dated 10/09/03 00:01:10 Pacific Daylight Time, les@jmdl.com writes: > In a message dated 9/9/2003 7:20:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > colin@tantra-apso.com writes: > people who say you think too much are usally pretty dense! It's a pity > more people don't think. > > > Thinking about thinking, I was thinking that I think too much, that is I > spend an awful lot of time in my head. Thinkers are great at many things, and to > have an agile and active mind does i am sure stave off dementia in older > age. If you don't use it you lose it. However, there is something to be said for > training the mind to be less active. If an active mind and thinking too much > are the same thing. To be able to still the mind offers us a special kind of > freedom and liberation, in doing so it nurtures the intuitive aspects. > Often-times we all really do benefit from getting out of our heads. It doesn't > need to be one or the other, all or nothing. Maybe our loved ones see our > furrowed brow and want to ease some of that pressure of thought. If someone tells > me i think too much, I am inclined to watch my feeling response and explore > that. After all trying to solve problems of thought with thought is like trying > to dry a wet swimsuit with a river. As a person who is trying to feel his > way through life more than think it, I can see where people are coming from > when they make such comments. Thought is so often a manifestation of the need to > control the world we live in and as such a manifestation of insecurity. I > say this in the awareness that what i am sharing here is true for me but may > not be the case for you. > > Clive > > np liz wright Salt ( love it) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 10:07:36 -0500 From: "Happy The Man" Subject: Tolerant Achievement Award (long) My ex-wife was intolerant about Joni (thus the ex part). But I have a pretty cool tale about my dad. See Dad was this good old boy American redneck (straight out of King of the Hill but not that sensitive). Flat top, beer belly, ex baseball player and everybody's buddy except the few pot smokers and feminist on our block. His favorite album was John Wayne - America, Why I Love Her. Get the point. So you can imagine how he felt about Bob Dylan, Neil Young,Yes, Joni or anything else that came out of my room during my teen years. Well about 1978 Dad decides he wants to go fishing so he comes into my room makes me sign over a paycheck and tells me to get the following week off and we are driving 750 miles to Grants Pass, Oregon to fish for Steelhead. I had this 63 Chevy Pickup with 3 on the tree that I took everywhere when I went on long trips because if it broke I could fix it. So we loaded up the truck with it's underdash slide in Cassette player and hit the road. I did make a couple of tapes for Dad before I left so he could have some music to listen to (John Wayne, Bing Crosby, etc) and of course packed Court, Hissing and Heijra. He drove out of LA why listening to talk radio (the usual we leave at 4:30 in the morning with a thermos full of coffee and a couple of Winchel's Donuts in our guts) and finally somewhere over the Ridge Route or Grapevine or whatever you call it Dad flips in one of his tapes. Now I imagined I would never get to listen to mine unless he was sound to sleep and I could keep it low enough that he wouldn't here it. After his tape was through both sides the old man looks at me and says you want to pop in one of yours. Shock was the first thing and then of course I said no because I didn't want him to curse about she sounds like shit or how can you listen to that crap, etc, etc. But he said no go ahead I like to hear some of it. So I stuck in Heijra and let is go, and you know how we usually throw a few extra songs off another album to fill up the 90 minute tape, well Woodstock came on and he didn't even say a word thought he was very opinionated about the whole thing over the years. Near the end of the tape he makes the comment, you know she really does have a good voice and the music is pretty cool to drive to. Over the next 500 miles we listened to a couple of more of the tapes and he didn't seem to care and I remember sleeping peacefully for an hour waking up to him still having the tape in. Dad and I had fought like enemies for the first 19 years of my life and it was pretty turmultous relationship but that was the turning point that trip, when the fishing guide slapped me with the paddle for not watching my lure Dad just laughed and checked his. He would have yelled at me in the past. We drank a few beers together that trip and talked about doing another one but we never got the chance. He passed away three years later from Cancer, those 2 1/2 packs of unfiltered Pall Mall's finally got to him. I remember when we asked him to smoke filtered cigarettes his comment back to us "I ain't gonna smoke no cancer stick with a tampax on the end." I had two great years with Dad and some Joni memories that I will always cherish. Peace, Craig NP: Derek Webb - Wedding Dress ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 11:44:54 -0400 (EDT) From: notaro@stpt.usf.edu Subject: Re: Tolerant Achievement Award (long) Quoting Happy The Man : > My ex-wife was intolerant about Joni (thus the ex part). But I have a > pretty > cool tale about my dad. > > See Dad was this good old boy American redneck (straight out of King of > the Posts like these make me thank the gods for our list. You made my day, Craig. Jerry (Queen of the Inner Circle) ;) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 18:01:16 +0100 From: tantra-apso Subject: Re: Tolerant Achievement Award (long) Happy The Man wrote: > >I had two great years with Dad and some Joni memories that I will always >cherish. > >Peace, Craig > > > what a moving story. thanks. > > > - -- bw colin http://www.btinternet.com/~tantraapso/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 13:22:32 -0400 (EDT) From: notaro@stpt.usf.edu Subject: Midler - Clooney At theend of the month Bette Midler is releasing Bette Midler Sings the Rosemary Clooney Songbook. On it, she sings Sisters with Linda Rondstadt. I can hear her Com-On-a-My-House and Mambo Italiano already! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 13:35:08 -0400 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: Intolerance Achievement Award >From: Catherine McKay >Reply-To: Catherine McKay >To: Melissa , joni@smoe.org >Subject: Re: Intolerance Achievement Award >Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 06:34:45 -0400 (EDT) > > --- Melissa wrote: The > > Hissing of Summer Lawns was playing on the CD > > (Harry's House, to be > > precise). Naturally, when he turned the ignition > > on, Joni came blaring out > > of the speakers. His comment last night was "When > > are you going to grow out > > of your obsession with this bitch?" I told him the > > bad news - Joni is here > > to stay. > >And he's not, of course? ;) LOL!!!!!!!!! On the dismal day...you've made me laugh! Thanks!! Bree > >===== >Catherine >Toronto >------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction > > > > >______________________________________________________________________ >Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca _________________________________________________________________ Need more e-mail storage? Get 10MB with Hotmail Extra Storage. http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 17:37:44 -0400 From: "anon anon" Subject: Overuse of The word "Like" One thing that has been bothering me a great deal lately is the fact that so MANY people overuse the word "like" so OFTEN...(I counted one person saying "Like" literally 20 times in one minute...Will this ever end,do you think??? _________________________________________________________________ Get a FREE computer virus scan online from McAfee. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 18:28:05 EDT From: Rdalindley@aol.com Subject: DARK CAFE DAYS RETURNS' ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 08:28:36 +1000 From: Melissa Subject: Re: Intolerance Achievement Award on 11/9/03 3:35 AM, Bree Mcdonough at bree_mcdonough@hotmail.com wrote: > > > >> From: Catherine McKay >> Reply-To: Catherine McKay >> To: Melissa , joni@smoe.org >> Subject: Re: Intolerance Achievement Award >> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 06:34:45 -0400 (EDT) >> >> --- Melissa wrote: The >>> Hissing of Summer Lawns was playing on the CD >>> (Harry's House, to be >>> precise). Naturally, when he turned the ignition >>> on, Joni came blaring out >>> of the speakers. His comment last night was "When >>> are you going to grow out >>> of your obsession with this bitch?" I told him the >>> bad news - Joni is here >>> to stay. >> >> And he's not, of course? ;) > > LOL!!!!!!!!! On the dismal day...you've made me laugh! Thanks!! > > Bree > >> >> ===== >> Catherine >> Toronto >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> -- >> We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction >> >> >> >> >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca > > _________________________________________________________________ > Need more e-mail storage? Get 10MB with Hotmail Extra Storage. > http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es > > He's still here and so is Joni. If an ultimatum were ever issued, I spose Joni and I would miss him sometimes... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 18:35:10 EDT From: Rdalindley@aol.com Subject: DARK CAFE DAYS returns to Chicago Hey all - It's been quite awhile since I've posted someting, but I still love lurking about and reading Joni stuff. Many of you came to see Foiled Again's Joni Tribute show DARK CAFE DAYS in Chicago and we are pleased to announce that the three of us and our show won a 2003 After Dark Award from Gay Chicago Magazine for Outstanding Cabaret Artists. We couldn't have done it without Joni and devoted fans coming to see our show. In celebration we are doing an encore one-night only performance of DARK CAFE DAYS on October 24th at 10:30 PM. We'll be at the same venue, Davenport's Piano Bar + Cabaret 1383 N Milwaukee, Chicago. Reservations can be made by calling 773.278.1830. For those of you who are fans of Allison Bazarko - that sexy gal who belted out "Blue Motel Room" and "Barangrill" in our show - she's currently starring in a Laura Nyro show at Davenport's. Every Friday at 10:30. Check out Davenportspianobar.com for details. Love Rob in the blue tv screen light ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 19:03:22 EDT From: HOOPSJOHN1@aol.com Subject: JMDL Digest V2003 #455 so enough about me, let's talk about something else...me for instance. Well actually, when talking about me iam talking about myself mostly in relation to Ms. Mitchell. I first encountered the woman I often call god when i was too young to even remember names. I do remember that i was deeply moved, even at my tender age. The song "both sides now" or if you will "clouds" if you won't well i'm sorry. It was Joni singing, i'll never forget that. the voice and soul of the song was unmistakable. (tangent) It is my feeling that no one can truly convey the depth and breadth of the art like the artist herself. (back again) I was young, but longed to hear that voice, that soul again, but i didn't even know where to begin...sighhhhhhhhh. i was years later, after i'd heard another soul and voice attached to one stevie nicks and fleetwood mac in the song "sara" that my search unknowingly began. falling in love with stevie and the band, i studied her every reason and purpose and found that one of her greatest influences was none other than this person called joni Mitchell. I went right out and bought an album, and lo an behold it just happened to be "clouds"!! oh what sweet destiny!!! more next time...i'm sure you are shaking with anticipation...lolololol ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 19:05:19 -0400 From: "patrick leader" Subject: music for depressed days hi folks: last night or a couple of nights ago, anita gabrielle offered her disk 'wounded and healing' as music that might help. i second that emotion! i've been listening to it an awful lot this week, which would have been a dark one even if all these things hadn't befallen my friends like mags, and those of you who knew andrea. anita has had some dark times in her life, and this is clearly an album of personal growth, with songs that allow her to channel her own strength, like 'great spirit', which she did at jfest. i also love hearing 'come to the water' and remembering the harmony trio at the fest. - --- i've also finally really listened to bob's 'sweet 16, take 2' of joni covers, and there is some amazing stuff on that. i'm truly in love with avalon hotel's 'blue'. i really can't understand how bob can listen to so many covers, but the gems are... gems. thanks bob. patrick np - anita gabrielle - (your love) takes me back ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 19:23:18 EDT From: MINGSDANCE@aol.com Subject: Re:Intolerance Achievement Award My Lover, Rolls who some of you have met always complains how she doesn't play the right notes.( he was a trumpet player in the high school and played directly from sheet music) so he thinks her music is weird. On the lyrics he calls it "dime store philosophy, and I counter act with "It's cocaine phraseology. Mingus ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 18:48:13 -0500 From: "kerry" Subject: Re: music for depressed days Patrick wrote: > i've also finally really listened to bob's 'sweet 16, take 2' of joni > covers, and there is some amazing stuff on that. i'm truly in love with > avalon hotel's 'blue'. i really can't understand how bob can listen to so > many covers, but the gems are... gems. thanks bob. I've been enjoying it too. I think Cherokee Louise by Itxaso and Daniel Perez is a great cure for depression. It cracks me up every time I hear it! Kerry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 17:21:43 -0700 From: cul heath Subject: Re: Intolerance Achievement Award From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Intolerance Achievement Award --- Melissa wrote: The > Hissing of Summer Lawns was playing on the CD > (Harry's House, to be > precise). Naturally, when he turned the ignition > on, Joni came blaring out > of the speakers. His comment last night was "When > are you going to grow out > of your obsession with this bitch?" I told him the > bad news - Joni is here > to stay. And he's not, of course? ;) Wow...that was like a Tim Robbins novel in one paragraph! Made me really laugh out loud... several times during the course of the day... It also made me think about all the things I was ever defensive about enjoying when with whatever potherwise fascinating person could hold their opposing view "like a weapon though"...sending me off into a weekend of dark silent pouting or, if pretending to be Thoroughly Modern Millie, unaffected by whatever slight I experienced or imagined I had experienced, I evoke the naval staring posture or the "far horizon look" of the dedicated "ennui-ist" ever drawn mothlike to the introintrointrointrospection flame, where prayers to the magnificient interior architecture of Self can be indulged like the priest and his pornographic watch...gawd,...anyway... In review of that sort thing I was pleased to discover for myself that I have no memory whatsoever of ever having even momentarily let anyone disparage or speak in an ill manner to my intense, nearly life long, intimate and strong embrace of all things posed, painted and performed by Her.... I mean, c'mon... nobody and I mean nobody else ever described the interior of themselves in such perfect intimacy that these things she describes with exquisitely novel coinages and brilliantly tidy, yet passionately fecund vignettes whose artful service to the alchemical notion of transcendence by way of always balancing the deep and superficial ARE SO me, not like me, no.... the sensation is that we are the same person...she knows how to become or evoke , whatever...is the universal us. Yeah, like I'm going to have that experience and then let someone else tell me its not true? HAH! Right! You know what bad ass thing I would really enjoy seeing? Is for Tori Amos and Joni Mitchell to go out on the town in a video of a song they co-wrote about being yourself and loving it and not needing men, the industry, the audience or even fans to tell you what's right on, cos "Nobody Else Can" :) Thanx for the release :) cul [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of wink_n.gif] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 20:38:55 -0400 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: JMDL members' musical recommendations follow up with Joni Content I don't have time to search the non-searchable archive to know whether this is old news, but since I mentioned Eric Andersen in my list of 5, I was wondering if you all knew that you can download a live mp3 performance of Blue River from the Mudd Club with Joni on harmony (which she also sang on the studio release) from Andersen's official MP3 site: http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/152/eric_andersen.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 21:14:09 -0400 From: "Suzanne MarcAurele" Subject: Like>>> Like wow like way cool like hey man like give me five like like like [my brain is shrinking from all the nonsense but I do love those people who use like with the perfect valley girl inflection its like so surreal I feel like I am at an amazing metamorphosis from high school to high school - have a great day! S. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 22:29:28 EDT From: HOOPSJOHN1@aol.com Subject: top 5? I'm reading about top 5 albums notincluding Joni. 1st let me say OMG does that list exist? now let me explain that memory is not my forte anymore. I say anymore because there was a time when i could quote any line from any song from any artist that i had ever heard, even if it was only once. Now i can barely make it through heavenly Joni's albums without messing up. c'est la vie...c'est la shock treatments, no wonder they are illegal in most states lolololol. so i will humbly do my best to give you my top five. i may not be able to provide the full info required but i'll do my best. in no particular order janis ian: stars (anything she touches is gold) zoo: shaking the cage cris williamson....her first album ani difranco: not so soft buckingham nicks: buckingham/nicks hard to choose i tell ya so much good music out there and so little time,what's interesting is that most, if not close to all of my favs have been influenced by god Joni herself even if in the tiniest way. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 22:43:24 EDT From: HOOPSJOHN1@aol.com Subject: nonsense > [my brain is shrinking from all the nonsense a little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest men. (willy wonka and the chocolate factory)...but seriously, don't mindme i'm rarely serious, except, of course, whan i am. peace Noel ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 20:09:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Susan Guzzi Subject: Re: DARK CAFE DAYS returns to Chicago RRRROOOBBBBB!! First off did ya like my Mary Tyler Moore imitation? LOL! Hey I would be interested in getting the same group together and hopefully more to the show in October - so lets talk soon. Secondly - Hey Chicago Joniphiles who also love Laura Nyro - Lets do it! Lets scurry down ... anyone? I am thinking next friday - 9/19? Well I am going anyway so catch up with me if you're iterested. Peace, Susan Rdalindley@aol.com wrote: Hey all - It's been quite awhile since I've posted someting, but I still love lurking about and reading Joni stuff. Many of you came to see Foiled Again's Joni Tribute show DARK CAFE DAYS in Chicago and we are pleased to announce that the three of us and our show won a 2003 After Dark Award from Gay Chicago Magazine for Outstanding Cabaret Artists. We couldn't have done it without Joni and devoted fans coming to see our show. In celebration we are doing an encore one-night only performance of DARK CAFE DAYS on October 24th at 10:30 PM. We'll be at the same venue, Davenport's Piano Bar + Cabaret 1383 N Milwaukee, Chicago. Reservations can be made by calling 773.278.1830. For those of you who are fans of Allison Bazarko - that sexy gal who belted out "Blue Motel Room" and "Barangrill" in our show - she's currently starring in a Laura Nyro show at Davenport's. Every Friday at 10:30. Check out Davenportspianobar.com for details. Love Rob in the blue tv screen light Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 23:43:59 EDT From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: tender? From an article about Warren Zevon at http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A45707-2003Sep8.html << He brought that training to the Southern California singer-songwriter scene of the mid-'70s, a place inhabited by tender souls like Joni Mitchell and Jackson Browne, a longtime friend and sometime producer >> TENDER SOULS!? Joni and Jackson?! Ha! --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 02:02:49 -0400 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today in History: September 11 1987: Jaco Pastorius was forcibly removed from the stage at Sunrise (Florida) Musical Theatre when he jumped onstage during Carlos Santana's performance. Hours later, he was found lying unconscious in the alley behind the Midnight Bottle Club in Wilton Manors, Florida. More info: http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=923 - ---- For a comprehensive reference to Joni's appearances, consult Joni Mitchell ~ A Chronology of Appearances: http://www.jonimitchell.com/appearances.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 02:02:49 -0400 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Library Links: September 11 On September 11 the following articles were published: 1990: "Diary of a Decade" - Raffaele Malanga and Jamie Zubairi (Biography) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=882 1990: "Mitchell part of Canadian celebration in London" - Saskatoon StarPhoenix (Interview) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=889 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 02:05:48 EDT From: Rdalindley@aol.com Subject: Re: DARK CAFE DAYS returns to Chicago Would love to see a group come to the Laura Nyro show - they just opened this past week - but I hear it's awesome. I think the 19th would be great - I will try to be there that night. It'll be fun to see all of you again! Rob in the blue tv screen light ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 02:51:13 -0400 From: Cactustree78@aol.com Subject: FAVE JONI OPENING LINE Hey all!! Sorry im a bit late on this thread but Ive been sick :P Anyway its funny that this should come up when i ve had the same line runnin through my head for weeks.. " Maybe in just kiddin myself when I say I love you" - --off night backstreet(djrd) I hope that you are all doing well...If you arent doin so good then email me and Ill try and brighten your day up...take care ****Kev**** ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2003 #285 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)