From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2003 #284 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Wednesday, September 10 2003 Volume 2003 : Number 284 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- FW: joni on BBC4 for UK listers ["Ross, Les" ] Re: What works for depression? [tantra-apso ] Re: Depression and Grief [steph@cix.co.uk (Anita Gabrielle Tedder)] Getting to Know You (SJC) [] Thanks and a request [Ed Beauchamp ] Re: Thanks and a request [notaro@stpt.usf.edu] Re: Life & death [PassScribe@aol.com] Re: Warren Zevon on VH-1 [PassScribe@aol.com] Re.: Warren Zevon Tribute song [PassScribe@aol.com] Re: Warren Zevon [PassScribe@aol.com] Re: That RS top 100 guitarists list [PassScribe@aol.com] Re: Getting to Know you (SJC) ["Sherelle Smith" ] Re: Getting to Know You (SJC) [Catherine McKay ] Re: Getting to Know You (SJC) [tantra-apso ] Re: Getting to Know You (SJC) ["StephenToogood" ] Today in History: September 10 [ljirvin@jmdl.com] Today's Library Links: September 10 [ljirvin@jmdl.com] Re: FW: why I keep forwarding jokes :-) [ash ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 09:12:55 +0100 From: "Ross, Les" Subject: FW: joni on BBC4 for UK listers Possibly mostly already seen stuff, but a 'heads up' for the UK listers anyway. Les (London) Joni Mitchell: A Woman of Heart and Mind Channel: BBC4 Date: Friday 12 September Time: 9:00pm to 10:25pm Review The Canadian singer/songwriter tells her story in a series of interviews mixed with performance footage. Joni Mitchell's work remains an inspiration to musicians all over the world and her classic songs have been covered by major artists from James Brown to Judy Collins. Joni Mitchell In Concert Channel: BBC4 Date: Friday 12 September Time: 10:25pm to 10:55pm Review Archive footage of the Canadian chanteuse, recorded before a studio audience in 1970. Featured songs include Chelsea Morning, Cactus Tree and Big Yellow Taxi. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2003 09:43:17 +0100 From: tantra-apso Subject: Re: What works for depression? Suzanne MarcAurele wrote: >Remembering that 99% seem to be too dense to even get depressed! > >S. > > > LOL! thanks for my morning giggle! And you aren't far from the truth either! - -- bw colin http://www.btinternet.com/~tantraapso/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 12:11 +0100 (BST) From: steph@cix.co.uk (Anita Gabrielle Tedder) Subject: Re: Depression and Grief Having read all the posts about depression, grief and sadness during the past few days I would like to offer my give-away (my cd 'Wounded and Healing')to anyone on the list who'd like it. I have been blessed to receive some lovely post from folk who had a copy at Joni Fest. It is somewhat introspective but you can check it out at www.anitagabrielle.com and see if you fancy it! Love Anita ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 07:01:58 -0500 From: Subject: Getting to Know You (SJC) Welcome, Linda! It's great to have you here, and great to hear people's "how I discovered Joni" stories. And, LOL: one common thread seems to be parents, significant others, and children who *just don't understand.* ;-) I know I drove my poor mother nearly to desperation by listening to tons of early, "helium-voiced" Joni on vacations during my college years. Years later, she was so accepting of my love for Joni's music that she even volunteered to tape "Woman of Heart and Mind" for me when it aired last year--and did so! But when I asked her how she liked it, she cautiously replied along the lines that it was OK. . . if one liked such things. Ah, well. We "initiated" will simply have to enjoy our particular affinity with one another. ;-) Take care, Mary P. P.S. Mr. Culpepper sounds way cool. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 07:44:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Ed Beauchamp Subject: Thanks and a request Hello fellow Joniacs, As a lurking subscriber to the Joni-only list for a while now, I wanted to say publicly that I've gotten a ton of useful information from this list - thank you all very much for taking the time to post. I know everyone is busy these days and it does take some effort (which is basically why I lurk...) but your enthusiasm shows through and I thoroughly enjoy reading the Joni stuff....which brings me to my request... I subscribe to the Joni-only list because I have a limited amount of time to read and my interest is purely in things Joni. I've noticed that the list has gotten a bit loose lately regarding the use of the "NJC" tag. Now, I myself tend to be a bit liberal as to what I think qualifies as Joni content - thoughts on playing dulcimers and odd guitar tunings would qualify as being Joni-related even with no Joni mention, IMO. While it may be interesting and useful information, I'm not sure that a post about foot pressure points to cure depression, as just one example, qualifies. Please understand, I make no judgment on the content of the non-Joni messages (and in fact I think that there have been some messages posted recently about some tragic events affecting us all that override any rules), but there is a place for these, and I'm just mentioning that perhaps some more attention could be paid to the subject line - I know I'd appreciate it. And BTW, my understanding is that only the "NJC" tag will work properly - "VLJC", "No Joni Content", "SJC", or "a wee bit JC", creative as they are, will not be correctly interpreted by the mail server that sorts these things out. Now, would I be pushing my luck to request that only relevant sections of long posts be quoted in replies? Thanks for listening (reading?), and I look forward to reading all of your future Joni posts! Ed __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2003 11:09:51 -0400 (EDT) From: notaro@stpt.usf.edu Subject: Re: Thanks and a request Quoting Ed Beauchamp : > > And BTW, my understanding is that only the "NJC" tag > will work properly - "VLJC", "SJC", > or "a wee bit JC", creative as they are, will not be > correctly interpreted by the mail server that sorts > these things out. > But it will let the Joni Only people know that there is Joni content, and the amount, and allow the reader to read, or delete, at will. Joni Only does not mean that there is only Joni content, but that there is Joni content is the post, no matter how small. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 11:23:17 EDT From: PassScribe@aol.com Subject: Re: Life & death In a message dated 9/9/03 3:01:43 AM, "Linda Crawford" writes: << When we all married and had settled with our own families, he suddenly reappeared -forever sober now- and was ready to join our lives. I found I didn't like him or his behavior and wanted no part of him. When he died, I grieved. I grieved not because of his passing and the things we would no longer be able to do together but for the lifetimes he had missed with his five children growing up. I am sorry he died but for me his death was years ago when he deserted the family. >> Linda, I've heard that same sentiment before regarding similar circumstances and I agree things can never be the same after someone deserts and then tries to return. Some people fail to understand the impact their actions have on other people until it's too late. And their past actions will continue to affect a relationship, no matter how hard everyone tries to forgive & forget. While you may still grieve for Peggy, I'm sure the pleasent memories you have of her will help, in time, to renew your spirit. Kenny B ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 11:38:19 EDT From: PassScribe@aol.com Subject: Re: Warren Zevon on VH-1 << From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: warren zevon passed away last night...i am so sad but happy to know that now he is free from pain...what an amazing journey he shared with us all- in his documentary & his final album...which i plan to get today & listen as i loved what i heard in the documentary...what a gift he gave us all with his songs & the astounding grace & humor he showed in his final hour... may he rest in peace >> If anyone missed it when it was shown before, VH-1 will be re-running the Bio on Warren Zevon tomorrow night (Wednesday); check your local TV guide for time in your area. I also taped an interview (from 2000, right after "Life Will Kill Ya" came out) they re-ran on WFUV Monday night if anyone is interested in a cassette tape copy. Kenny B ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 11:40:44 EDT From: PassScribe@aol.com Subject: Re.: Warren Zevon Tribute song In a message dated 9/9/03 3:01:43 AM, les@jmdl.com writes: << From: David Sadowski Subject: Warren Zevon Tribute I wrote a tribute song to WZ on the day I heard he was terminally ill... and just pulled out the lyric again today for the first time since then. Here it is. - - -Dave >> David, I didn't copy and paste your lyrics (to save space) but others can find them in your previous post if necessary. I just wanted to say how GREAT I found your song... fabulous job. Of course, I'd like to hear the melody too but what I've seen so far is very impressive. Maybe you could perform it at next year's JoniFest? I liked your line, "Have a drink on me, my friend"; please see my post to Bob on this subject. Kenny B P.S. No, I'm not an alcoholic... just like my occasional sip or two. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 11:40:45 EDT From: PassScribe@aol.com Subject: Re: Warren Zevon << From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: timeline and Let's Sing Out Thanks too for sharing the news about Warren...I was expecting it but had not heard. What an example of artistic dignity he gave us. Let us continue to celebrate laughter, love, and life. Bob >> Ah, yes...we all knew it was coming but I only heard about it Monday at lunchtime (Warren Zevon died Sunday) when WFUV did an "under the covers" segment whereby they played his songs by other people. When I got home from work, I picked out a special glass and poured a little Johnny Walker Black and sipped it as I remembered Warren... my way of saying "good-bye" to some special people. Kenny B ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 12:06:24 EDT From: PassScribe@aol.com Subject: Re: That RS top 100 guitarists list << rom: "Timothy Spong" Subject: Fender's Top 100 Guitarists list SJC <> Tim Spong Dover, Del., U.S.A. >> Hey, Tim, Wow; the controversy this article has generated. My wife listens to WOR (talk radio) in NYC and they usually have listeners call in about everything from food to politics. On a recent show, EVERYBODY was calling in to complain about the Rolling Stone top 100 guitarists list. People asked, "Where is B.B. King?" One asked, "Joan Jett? Did she actually PLAY that guitar?" I wish I could have taped that show and gotten all the responses. Kenny B ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2003 18:16:50 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: Getting to Know you (SJC) Hi Linda, I grew up in Portsmouth, Virginia right across the water from you! I came there in 1969 (my parents were from Virginia) after my father retired from the Air Force. In high school I was introduced to many different types of music. For the first time, I lived in a predominantly black neighborhood and even though I am an African American, I always had a mix of cultures wherever we went. The funny thing is that I grew to love everything equally. I was mesmerized by all the wonderful male groups that came on the scene; The Originals, The Stylistics, Tavares, The Dells, The Spinners andThe Main Ingredient were among many of my favorites. I was also introduced to Yes, Santana, Grand Funk Railroad, and every artist on the Woodstock album in high school, so I managed to strike a balance between the two. I was not aware of Joni Mitchell or Joni Baez until I started my first semester of college in Los Angeles. Even though the city pretty much chewed me up and spit me out, I found Joni there. I also found Dan Fogelberg-Eureka! Welcome and thank you for sharing your story. Sherelle _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive larger attachments with Hotmail Extra Storage. http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 13:03:08 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Thanks and a request hi ed, thanks for asking so nicely...i think most of us do try very much to remember but some people slip up occasionally & sometimes new folks haven't figured it out yet...but thanks for the reminder to use the NJC tag! ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 17:47:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Getting to Know You (SJC) --- blckcrow@chorus.net wrote: > Welcome, Linda! It's great to have you here, and > great to hear people's "how > I discovered Joni" stories. > > And, LOL: one common thread seems to be parents, > significant others, and > children who *just don't understand.* ;-) I know I > drove my poor mother > nearly to desperation by listening to tons of early, > "helium-voiced" Joni on > vacations during my college years. LOL, Mary - my mother couldn't stand Joni either. "What is that dirge?" she'd say. "Who is that caterwauling?" But Papa's faith was in people - he got it (more or less.) ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2003 22:51:49 +0100 From: tantra-apso Subject: Re: Getting to Know You (SJC) Catherine McKay wrote: > > > > >LOL, Mary - my mother couldn't stand Joni either. >"What is that dirge?" she'd say. "Who is that >caterwauling?" > > sounds like most of the people know, including my DJ. He sat and watched WOHAM with me and when it was over said 'the bitch still can't sing'. That phrase is a running joke with us, or with him really. I read out a particularly pretentious post to him about Joni and her talent that in the opinion of the writer, was far greater than any person living now or in the past. When i'd finished, he came up with that one line which made me laugh. - -- bw colin http://www.btinternet.com/~tantraapso/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 23:27:53 +0100 From: "StephenToogood" Subject: Re: Getting to Know You (SJC) LOL. This reminds me of when I was still living with my Mum; I would play Joni in the kitchen while I washed the dishes. One time my Mum asked me "what was I was listening to?" So I told her "it's blue by Joni Mitchell'. I asked her if she liked it and she said "not really, is there something wrong with her voice?"! I knew then that my Mum would never like Joni. She did however comment that she liked 'Both Sides Now' by Joni when I was playing it and I thought I heard her humming to TI once! Steve T ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 18:42:19 -0400 From: "David Rahall" Subject: Re: Getting to Know You (SJC) I was working at my Dad's five and dime for the summer (1976?) and kept putting "The Hissing Of Summer Lawns" on the store's music/pa system. He hated it. Actually, I know now (since I'm mature and all) I shouldn't have done that- it's definitely not muzak. I guess I just wanted to listen to it. David P.S.- At least he didn't make me take it off, as he did with Patti Smith's "Horses." I'll admit I was *really* pushing it with that one. listening to Sly and the Family Stone "Just Like A Baby" - ----- Original Message ----- From: "StephenToogood" To: "Joni List" Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 6:27 PM Subject: Re: Getting to Know You (SJC) > LOL. This reminds me of when I was still living with my Mum; I would play > Joni in the kitchen while I washed the dishes. One time my Mum asked me > "what was I was listening to?" So I told her "it's blue by Joni Mitchell'. I > asked her if she liked it and she said "not really, is there something wrong > with her voice?"! I knew then that my Mum would never like Joni. > > She did however comment that she liked 'Both Sides Now' by Joni when I was > playing it and I thought I heard her humming to TI once! > > Steve T ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 02:01:19 -0400 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today in History: September 10 1990: Starting on this day, Joni's paintings form a major part of "Canada In The City", an exhibition of Canadian art, music and culture at the Broadgate Centre in London. This exhibit runs through the 21st of the month. - ---- For a comprehensive reference to Joni's appearances, consult Joni Mitchell ~ A Chronology of Appearances: http://www.jonimitchell.com/appearances.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 02:01:19 -0400 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Library Links: September 10 On September 10 the following articles were published: 1979: "Music extraordinaire" - Santa Barbara News Press (Review - Concert) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=870 1979: "Rare talent, Joni sparkles in jazz" - San Mateo Times (Review - Concert) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=873 2002: "How Joni Mitchell drove me to Britney: Play based on icon's songs left writer thirsty for a beat" - Ottawa Citizen (Review - Play) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=950 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 08:06:17 +1000 From: ash Subject: Re: FW: why I keep forwarding jokes :-) - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 3:29 AM Subject: Re: FW: why I keep forwarding jokes :-) A way to go? > Hi Ash enjoyed your joke on heaven and earth. Really very appropriate at the > moment as my 99 year Mother suddenly died last Thursday. No signs , no > illness, no medication - just went as she always wanted to -- in own bed , in her own > room and peacefully. went to bed thursday night and didnt wake up. > Cheers John Ridout ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2003 #284 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)