From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2003 #278 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Friday, September 5 2003 Volume 2003 : Number 278 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Today's Library Links: September 4 [Catherine McKay ] Re: Joni in Rolling Stone [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Joni in Rolling Stone [Phyliss Ward ] Re: Thanks ["Cynthia Vickery" ] RE: Andrea ["Sherelle Smith" ] joni on the boards ["robin mortlock" ] "Where some have found their paradise Other's just come to harm..." ["Raf] remember Dave tuesday afternoon august 19th 2003 [magsnbrei ] Re: Joni in Rolling Stone ["StephenToogood" ] newbie ["Timothy Foldoe" ] Re: mama cass television program [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: newbie [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] re: Joni in Rolling Stone [Catherine McKay ] Re: newbie ["Lori Fye" ] Joni in Rolling Stone ["Laurent Olszer" ] Re: Joni in Rolling Stone [Catherine McKay ] Re: Joni in Rolling Stone [Catherine McKay ] Re: newbie [RoseMJoy@aol.com] Re: newbie [Michael Paz ] Re: Yes in concert and old age! ["ash" ] Subject: Blue period [Seulbzzaj@aol.com] Re: Ash's comments on Andrea [PassScribe@aol.com] Re: Johnny Cash copy [PassScribe@aol.com] Andrea, remembered [PassScribe@aol.com] Re: mama cass television program ["Mark or Travis" ] Re: newbie [Catherine McKay ] Re: newbie [Catherine McKay ] Re: newbie ["Timothy Foldoe" ] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2003 #276 [Bobsart48@aol.com] re: Andrea ["mia ortlieb" ] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2003 #276 [Bobsart48@aol.com] [none] ["Timothy Foldoe" ] Box Set Art Up On Amazon... ["Christopher Treacy" ] Re: newbie [KJHSF@aol.com] Today's Library Links: September 5 [ljirvin@jmdl.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 06:35:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Today's Library Links: September 4 --- ljirvin@jmdl.com wrote: > On September 4 the following articles were > published: ... > 1999: "Joni Mitchell Keeps Busy" - S.L. Feldman & > Associates > (News Item) > http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=632 Well, this is interesting. I read this article because isn't Feldman & Assoc Joni's publicist? meaning this is a news release? So it has been four years since this Joni tribute was started... and what happened to it, I wonder? "Joni Mitchell Keeps Busy "S.L. Feldman & Associates September 4, 1999 "The Joni Mitchell Tribute Album is now finished and scheduled for release before the end of the year. Chaka Khan, Elvis Costello, Bjork, Etta James, Janet Jackson and others have recorded their favorite Joni songs for this long-overdue salute to one of the best songwriters of our generation. A complete track-listing should be available soon." ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 07:10:55 EDT From: StDoherty@aol.com Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2003 #277 I just read the posts about Andrea. We had just recently started e-mailing - -- I too live an hour and a half away from the JoniFest site. She talked about building up her Van Morrison collection. My sympathies to all of her friends. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2003 10:54:17 -0400 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Another silly list, but Joni's #1 at least This one from CHART magazine, listing the top 50 Canadian albums. Lots of records here that even I, slut that I am, haven't heard of, but Blue came out on top and C&S makes the cut as well. Extry, extry, read all about it: http://www.chartattack.com/DAMN/2000/06/3001.cfm Bob NP: Wilco, "Ashes Of American Flags" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2003 15:06:22 +0000 From: "c Karma" Subject: re: Joni in Rolling Stone They picked "All I Want" as the guitar reference tune. Pathetic. Music press like the music business is increasingly devoid of people who know anything about music. They'll put themselves out of business. One can only surmise that it's an attempt to lead the uninitiated to try "Blue." It DOES pose an interesting question, though: "What would be your choice for the track(s) that qualify Joni as one of the 100 greatest guitarists? Please limit yourself to one (discipliine, people!). Prove you can do what Rolling Stone can't. My choice, which I'm sure will change the second I hit the send button is,: "Overture/Cotton Avenue." CC "Breathtaking ignorance!" -- JM _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive larger attachments with Hotmail Extra Storage. http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2003 11:15:20 -0400 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni in Rolling Stone > My choice, which I'm sure will change the second I hit the > send button is,: > "Overture/Cotton Avenue." That's the one I would pick for Jaco's best work with Joni. My fave Joni guitar playing would be... "The Wolf That Lives In Lindsey" - I'm just a sucker for those chimes. Bob NP: Wilco, "Poor Places" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2003 08:32:31 -0700 From: Phyliss Ward Subject: Re: Joni in Rolling Stone Off the top of my head here, Passion Play, I love the harmonics SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: > >My fave Joni guitar playing would be... >"The Wolf That Lives In Lindsey" - I'm just a sucker for those >chimes. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 10:39:06 -0500 From: "Cynthia Vickery" Subject: Re: Thanks <> BUSTED!!!!! welcome to the list, kamilla! stick around - it's a pretty cool group of folks. and jump in with both feet, okay? it's great to hear from the new guys on the block - new opinions and viewpoints are always appreciated!! we'd love to hear more about how you discovered joni, what albums you have, which songs you love, who else you listen to - all that good stuff. take care - cindy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2003 16:56:43 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: RE: Andrea Dear Bruce and list, I am like so many others who are at a loss for words. Andrea was part of our family, our very special family and she is truly going to missed much like the other family members on this list that have left this earth. I think someone was mentioning the idea of a memorial to our departed list members on the site and I would love to see Andrea remembered in this way. I would like to know more about her because she mattered. I would like for her to live in my memory even though I didn't really know her. I want to share in the goodness that you knew about her. I'm so sorry for your loss and so sorry for our loss at the JMDL. Love, Sherelle _________________________________________________________________ Try MSN Messenger 6.0 with integrated webcam functionality! http://www.msnmessenger-download.com/tracking/reach_webcam ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2003 17:07:40 +0000 From: "robin mortlock" Subject: joni on the boards I read somewhere in an interview that Joni was going to write a play about relationships. Does anyone have any more news about this or did i dream this up. Robin - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2003 17:57:24 +0000 From: "Raffaele Malanga" Subject: "Where some have found their paradise Other's just come to harm..." I happened on Pat Metheny's website and reading through the Forum posts I found this one, posted by Bob Meyrick on December 1, 2002. I thought it's a beautiful insight about Travelogue: >>>>>>>>>>>Joni Mitchell - Travelogue I've been waiting for this one for a while. Joni's last album gave a hint of the possibilities with the re-arrangements of 'Both Sides Now' and 'Case of You'. I bought "Travelogue" yesterday, listened to both CDs (it's a double) and I'm stunned. Joni writes wonderful songs anyway, but Vince Mendoza has done a fantastic job with the arrangements - one example that springs to mind is on 'Refuge of the Roads', her original acoustic guitar figure is played by harps, and Jaco's basslines played by French horns. The material covers all of her career, and it's great to hear the old songs transformed, given a new twist. The players all shine - - Wayne Shorter's soprano embellishments are spot on as usual, Plas Johnson adds some gorgeous tenor and Kenny Wheeler adds his distinctive flugelhorn. You've also got Herbie, Larry Klein, Brian Blade, Chuck Berghofer, Paulinho DaCosta and Billy Preston as featured players. The orchestra are exemplary, too. As for Joni... her voice has acquired a richness, a depth of experience; it's aged like a fine wine. If I could only have one Joni Mitchell album, this would be it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Raf, London. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Stay connected whilst on the move. Now you can get Hotmail sent directly to your mobile phone. Click here for details. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 11:51:11 -0700 (PDT) From: magsnbrei Subject: remember Dave tuesday afternoon august 19th 2003 Joni Mitchell brought me to this place over three years ago, and in this place I am ever so grateful to be a part of a kind, giving, caring community at the best of times and at the worst of times. It is with deep gratitude that I thank those of you who have reached out in so many ways to support us through this sad time. Your voices and multitude of kindness and generosity has helped more than my words could possibly express. I am writing to the whole list, with apologies to the Joni onlies...because I need to talk, in this moment, about something so difficult and incredibly impossible to believe, even now. It is with deep heartaching sadness that I share some more surrounding the death of my beloved brother who Dave we lost suddenly on Tuesday August 19th, 2003 at 12:41 p.m. as a result of a brain aneurism. A silent explosion. Like a mad man's gun shot cutting deep, searing into the flesh. he had headaches, but who doesnt? he had them checked out at the doctor...to the extent of an MRI and CT scan the week prior, however, there was nothing to see in either test result. A brain aneurism. I am told it is equivalent to turning off a light switch. In that split second moment, my sister tells me that Dave is gone. I keep asking myself, Gone where????? And now, over two weeks later, I still don't have the answer to that burning question. Ive been up to Canada for visitations and his funeral. I am back home now. and I feel lost. Now. I dont know what to do, now. I am suddenly immersed in this deafening silent place of reality . I have no idea how to do this. This is in fact much more difficult than I ever imagined. Dave was three years older than me. As children, we were the best of friends, getting into all kinds of mischief. We laughed and squealed with unabandoned joy at the very sanctuary of life we found in places like my Aunt Laura's farm and barn, or running a relay race together in Burlington Ontario and so many , many wonderful moments together. I am told early on that I must remember all of Dave, the good as well as the not so good....and as I reflect, I realize there really isnt much to be said on the negative end of things. oh yes, he was more than human and was the first to admit to that. At the funeral, the minister gave us some time at the end of the service to reflect upon Dave's life and what he means to us, and how he touched us . So many , many people. The minister gave us the framework, "Remember Dave", as an opening to all that we felt about him. This is some of what came to me in those precious and devastating moments prior to commending his body. He was 53 on his last birthday in May. My brother the Taurus. amen to that one. He was driven and he lived life with a passion, compassion, wisdom, forgiveness, acceptance, tolerance for everyone he met. He wore his great big heart on his sleeve for all the world to see. monarch butterflies red winged blackbirds meccano hand made candles in the most glorious rainbow colours an accident in a volkswagen beetle where we both miraculously survived it rolling over in a ditch an ever present twinkle in his eye, and feeling butterflies in my stomach because, at any given moment he was about to pull some wild prank. fireflies crickets bull frogs in the creek jumping into mounds of hay from the loft high above us in my aunt laura's barn cucumbers cycling getting his red bike as a hand me down running a running partner a master of duck on the cars in our highschool days, he was very much behind the scenes involved in anything and everything technical (dances, sound systems, lights for performances you would never find dave in the limelight, and always, always ever present like some effervescent light. tender sensitive caring loyal devoted reaching out to anyone and everyone in need. gave the shirt off his back, literally and figuratively played old timers hockey for ten years plus was a girls soccer coach and referee played cards with his life long friends for years son brother cousin husband father teacher mentor and above all else, my hero...because he rose above it all and made his mark in this world. he will be sadly and impossibly missed for ever and for always and in all ways. a piece of my entire being has been ripped away . I know his life and legacy lives on in each and every single person who knew Dave. I am truly blessed to call him my brother. i love you my davey baby you will always be the sunshine on my shoulders love eternal, Mags xo You open my heart, you do. Yes you do. - JM Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2003 14:01:06 -0500 From: "Donna Binkley" Subject: Re: [NortheastJonifest] remember Dave tuesday afternoon august 19th 2003 Dearest Mags, You have been in my thoughts and prayers for weeks. You know how i feel, please please call me if you want or need to. love donna >>> magsnbrei@yahoo.com 9/4/2003 1:51:11 PM >>> Joni Mitchell brought me to this place over three years ago, and in this place I am ever so grateful to be a part of a kind, giving, caring community at the best of times and at the worst of times. It is with deep gratitude that I thank those of you who have reached out in so many ways to support us through this sad time. Your voices and multitude of kindness and generosity has helped more than my words could possibly express. I am writing to the whole list, with apologies to the Joni onlies...because I need to talk, in this moment, about something so difficult and incredibly impossible to believe, even now. It is with deep heartaching sadness that I share some more surrounding the death of my beloved brother who Dave we lost suddenly on Tuesday August 19th, 2003 at 12:41 p.m. as a result of a brain aneurism. A silent explosion. Like a mad man's gun shot cutting deep, searing into the flesh. he had headaches, but who doesnt? he had them checked out at the doctor...to the extent of an MRI and CT scan the week prior, however, there was nothing to see in either test result. A brain aneurism. I am told it is equivalent to turning off a light switch. In that split second moment, my sister tells me that Dave is gone. I keep asking myself, Gone where????? And now, over two weeks later, I still don't have the answer to that burning question. Ive been up to Canada for visitations and his funeral. I am back home now. and I feel lost. Now. I dont know what to do, now. I am suddenly immersed in this deafening silent place of reality . I have no idea how to do this. This is in fact much more difficult than I ever imagined. Dave was three years older than me. As children, we were the best of friends, getting into all kinds of mischief. We laughed and squealed with unabandoned joy at the very sanctuary of life we found in places like my Aunt Laura's farm and barn, or running a relay race together in Burlington Ontario and so many , many wonderful moments together. I am told early on that I must remember all of Dave, the good as well as the not so good....and as I reflect, I realize there really isnt much to be said on the negative end of things. oh yes, he was more than human and was the first to admit to that. At the funeral, the minister gave us some time at the end of the service to reflect upon Dave's life and what he means to us, and how he touched us . So many , many people. The minister gave us the framework, "Remember Dave", as an opening to all that we felt about him. This is some of what came to me in those precious and devastating moments prior to commending his body. He was 53 on his last birthday in May. My brother the Taurus. amen to that one. He was driven and he lived life with a passion, compassion, wisdom, forgiveness, acceptance, tolerance for everyone he met. He wore his great big heart on his sleeve for all the world to see. monarch butterflies red winged blackbirds meccano hand made candles in the most glorious rainbow colours an accident in a volkswagen beetle where we both miraculously survived it rolling over in a ditch an ever present twinkle in his eye, and feeling butterflies in my stomach because, at any given moment he was about to pull some wild prank. fireflies crickets bull frogs in the creek jumping into mounds of hay from the loft high above us in my aunt laura's barn cucumbers cycling getting his red bike as a hand me down running a running partner a master of duck on the cars in our highschool days, he was very much behind the scenes involved in anything and everything technical (dances, sound systems, lights for performances you would never find dave in the limelight, and always, always ever present like some effervescent light. tender sensitive caring loyal devoted reaching out to anyone and everyone in need. gave the shirt off his back, literally and figuratively played old timers hockey for ten years plus was a girls soccer coach and referee played cards with his life long friends for years son brother cousin husband father teacher mentor and above all else, my hero...because he rose above it all and made his mark in this world. he will be sadly and impossibly missed for ever and for always and in all ways. a piece of my entire being has been ripped away . I know his life and legacy lives on in each and every single person who knew Dave. I am truly blessed to call him my brother. i love you my davey baby you will always be the sunshine on my shoulders love eternal, Mags xo You open my heart, you do. Yes you do. - JM Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software This message has been scanned by the E250. This message has been scanned by the E250. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2003 12:11:29 -0700 From: "Lori Fye" Subject: Re: remember Dave tuesday afternoon august 19th 2003 Mags, what a beautiful post. I wish I had personally known your brother Dave, but from what you've just written, I feel as if I do. Love, Lori ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 20:50:45 +0100 From: "StephenToogood" Subject: Re: joni on the boards That may have been the short film she did around the time of WTRF. It was never released. I would love to see it, I bet Joni's a good actress. Steve NP: Datura - Tori - ----- Original Message ----- From: "robin mortlock" To: Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 6:07 PM Subject: joni on the boards > I read somewhere in an interview that Joni was going to write a play > about relationships. Does anyone have any more news about this or did i > dream this up. > > Robin > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 21:00:40 +0100 From: "StephenToogood" Subject: Re: Joni in Rolling Stone This is similar to a discussion not so long a go...but now I can only choose one! Ok I'll do my best... 'Cold Blue Steel & Sweet Fire' This is one I whistle all day at work (I don't just do the happy tunes) and it gets on everyone's nerves so much because they don't know what it is. Steve NP: Spring Haze - Tori - ----- Original Message ----- From: "c Karma" To: Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:06 PM Subject: re: Joni in Rolling Stone > They picked "All I Want" as the guitar reference tune. Pathetic. Music > press like the music business is increasingly devoid of people who know > anything about music. They'll put themselves out of business. One can only > surmise that it's an attempt to lead the uninitiated to try "Blue." > > It DOES pose an interesting question, though: "What would be your choice for > the track(s) that qualify Joni as one of the 100 greatest guitarists? > Please limit yourself to one (discipliine, people!). Prove you can do what > Rolling Stone can't. > > My choice, which I'm sure will change the second I hit the send button is,: > "Overture/Cotton Avenue." > > CC > > "Breathtaking ignorance!" -- JM > > _________________________________________________________________ > Send and receive larger attachments with Hotmail Extra Storage. > http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 16:54:05 -0400 From: "Timothy Foldoe" Subject: newbie Hi everyone, this is Tim (23 yrs old) from southern New Jersey. This is my first post. I'm finally getting finished with my Joni collection, and I was wondering if anyone had suggestions of albums that Joni helped on (lyrically, and or vocal/guitar/piano), that are worthwhile? I have James Taylor's Mud Slide Slim, several Joni background vocals on there. On another note (Just to let everyone know me a little better), I think Clouds is a highly underrated album, as well as STAS. IMO they have some of the best lyrics and guitar work, of all her repertoire. BTW, my fav albums also include Blue and Hejira. My top ten song list (in no particular order) would probably be River, I Had a King, Circle Game, Chelsea Morning, Michael from Mountains, My Secret Place, Real Good For Free, Amelia, The Sire of Sorrow, and A Case of You. Also thankyou to the creators and volunteers for this site. Now I finally have all the lyrics in one word document! I started typing them in from my CD jackets, but now I just cut and paste from the site. Also the guitar section is great. I'm just learning how to play, and I love tab! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2003 16:58:11 -0400 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: mama cass television program > the best part is when all 3 do a nice version > of "i shall be released." > joni takes the third verse-- > (now yonder stands a man in this lonely crowd...) > does this count as a new joni cover? No, because she also did it with Van & Bob on her '98 tour. However, this one would be the FIRST time she did it, that I'm aware of anyway... That sounds like a cool video Walt, thanks for sharing the details. Bob NP: Lucinda Williams, "Changed The Locks" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2003 17:21:23 -0400 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: newbie > I was > wondering if anyone had suggestions of albums that Joni > helped on (lyrically, > and or vocal/guitar/piano), that are worthwhile? Hiya Tim, and welcome! The good news of your arrival is also welcome as this has been somewhat of a sad week here. Anyway, to answer your question, I would first refer you to: http://www.jonimitchell.com/Lists/Contributions/ContributionsYear.htm Of that list, the stuff that I would recommend would be: Herbie Hancock's "Gershwin's World" with 2 nice Joni vocals on Summertime & The Man I Love; Kyle Eastwood's "From There To Here", Joni sings "Trouble Man" Brian Blade's "Perceptual", Joni provides a very moody haunting vocal on a track titled "Steadfast". This track far outshines anything on her 2 last releases, in my opinion of course. I also really like her 2 duets of "Dida" with Joan Baez. Thanks again for the intro, look forward to hearing more from you! Bob NP: Lucinda Williams, "Six Blocks Away" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 18:18:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: re: Joni in Rolling Stone --- c Karma wrote: > It DOES pose an interesting question, though: "What > would be your choice for > the track(s) that qualify Joni as one of the 100 > greatest guitarists? > Please limit yourself to one (discipliine, people!). > Prove you can do what > Rolling Stone can't. > > My choice, which I'm sure will change the second I > hit the send button is,: > "Overture/Cotton Avenue." > You picked the same one I did, and I wasn't cheating. I had my answer ready before I saw the bottom of your e-mail. I love that one - for its guitar work and Joni's voice at its sexiest. That also qualifies, in my mind, for possibly Joni's happiest song - happy to be alive - get those dancin' shoes on! ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2003 15:19:14 -0700 From: "Lori Fye" Subject: Re: newbie Hi Tim from southern NJ! (WHERE there? I used to live in Voorhees and work at the radar station in Gibbsboro.) Welcome to the JMDL! > I'm finally getting finished with my Joni collection, and I was > wondering if anyone had suggestions of albums that Joni helped on > (lyrically, and or vocal/guitar/piano), that are worthwhile? I can't add more to what Bob has kindly supplied (and thank you, simon, for compiling http://www.jonimitchell.com/Lists/Contributions/ContributionsYear.htm), although I will say that for a "period" album, Shadow Play by LA Express is very enjoyable, and I really like the cover art. > I have James Taylor's Mud Slide Slim, several Joni background vocals > on there. It's great to have you here -- please post more soon! Lori in MD ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 00:47:33 +0200 From: "Laurent Olszer" Subject: Joni in Rolling Stone Fave guitar work: a toss up between * Black Crow: not that hard to play once you know the tuning. But for years I tried (unsuccessfully) figuring out how to play it in standard tuning, that was before JMDL existed and before I knew about Joni's special tunings. * You Dream Flat Tires: that bass riff always floored me. Laurent ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 18:55:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Joni in Rolling Stone --- SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: > My fave Joni guitar playing would be... > "The Wolf That Lives In Lindsey" - I'm just a sucker > for those > chimes. > Harmonics - I love those! ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 19:07:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Joni in Rolling Stone --- StephenToogood wrote: > > 'Cold Blue Steel & Sweet Fire' > > This is one I whistle all day at work (I don't just > do the happy tunes) and > it gets on everyone's nerves so much because they > don't know what it is. > That can be fun. But I guess you know that. ;) ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 19:07:59 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: newbie Hi Tim, Welcome from another Joniphile from the great state of NJ. I think that Bob answered most of your questions. Leave it to the covers king. Oh and did I mention I'm a huge Springsteen fan too? ;~) rosie in nj ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2003 19:04:18 -0700 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: newbie Hi Tim Welcome to the list. It is always a happy thing for me to se a young person discovering Joni. I am a guitar player (as well as other instruments) and I have a couple of VG-8's (more info her http://vg-8.com/ ) that I store all my Joni patches in. While many on the list will tell you the VG-8 doesn't sound as good as real acoustic guitars it beats the hell out of re tuning the guitar for every song. Let me know if I can be of any help to you figuring something out on the tabs and such. Have a great stay here and hope to hear more from you and see you at an upcoming JoniFest or Minifest gathering. Best Michael Paz in New Orleans > Hi everyone, this is Tim (23 yrs old) from southern New Jersey. This is my > first post. I'm finally getting finished with my Joni collection, and I was > wondering if anyone had suggestions of albums that Joni helped on (lyrically, > and or vocal/guitar/piano), that are worthwhile? I have James Taylor's Mud > Slide Slim, several Joni background vocals on there. > On another note (Just to let everyone know me a little better), I think Clouds > is a highly underrated album, as well as STAS. IMO they have some of the best > lyrics and guitar work, of all her repertoire. BTW, my fav albums also include > Blue and Hejira. My top ten song list (in no particular order) would probably > be River, I Had a King, Circle Game, Chelsea Morning, Michael from Mountains, > My Secret Place, Real Good For Free, Amelia, The Sire of Sorrow, and A Case of > You. > Also thankyou to the creators and volunteers for this site. Now I finally have > all the lyrics in one word document! I started typing them in from my CD > jackets, but now I just cut and paste from the site. Also the guitar section > is great. I'm just learning how to play, and I love tab! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 10:35:50 +1000 From: "ash" Subject: Re: Yes in concert and old age! More News on Yes in the UK from a mate.......(sorry no mention of Joni) .... Hi Ash Yup...Judi took me to see Yes at the Hammersmith Apollo for my 46th birthday...argh!!. It was fantastic, an amazing nostalgia trip and god have I been on some of those lately!! It was almost the original line up and certainly the most well known by Yes fans...Jon Anderson, Steve Howe, Chris Squire, Andy White and Rick Wakeman! Didn't really miss Bill Bruford or Tony Kaye. I couldn't believe that it was 28 years since Id last seen them at Bingley Hall! They were better than ever and Jon Anderson's voice seemed to had mellowed....certainly didn't sound like he had his balls in a vice as usual. They all looked a little chunky ( but then don't we all these days) although Steve Hove looked like he'd been on traffic warden duty all day and Rick was still doing his Clairol Hair Bleaching Kit Advert. Andy White was as tight on the drums as ever and Chris Squire was just awesome when he walked on stage to perform The Ladder with a four necked bass!! Actually he looked more like Arnie in Terminator! Anyway, it was bloody fantastic and a night I shall never forget. Most of the bands you mention I've seen and I always enjoyed Supertramp despite the backing track stuff. I think the best gigs ever for me though were Queen at Wembley in 86, Genesis at Knebworth in 88 (i think), and Dire Straits at Woburn Abbey in 1990. PS: I've got loads of those black plastic 12 inch thingies too but I'll never bung 'em. The sleeves are so much better than those bloody eyetests they put in with the silver frisbees! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2003 21:07:55 -0400 From: Seulbzzaj@aol.com Subject: Subject: Blue period In a message dated 9/4/2003 3:00:10 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Zzutak@aol.com writes: << It's only saddening when you listen to the earlier stuff, which is chillingly expansive and expressive. >> All I can say to that is baloney! Joni is a much more expressive singer now than she was in the '60's and '70's. I don't find anything sad about her abilities as an artist today. I believe she is a greater musician now than she was in her youth. Scott ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 21:42:03 EDT From: PassScribe@aol.com Subject: Re: Ash's comments on Andrea Ash, your thoughts and comments on the loss of Sue and Andrea were beautifully expressed. Kenny B ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 21:42:04 EDT From: PassScribe@aol.com Subject: Re: Johnny Cash copy In a message dated 9/4/03 3:01:06 AM, Emiliano writes: << And what about doing a copy on .mpg format that you could burn on a CD-R? >> Emiliano, I wouldn't know where to begin; besides, my CD burner is not a part of my computer. Let's be happy with VHS tapes a little while longer ;-) Kenny B ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 21:42:00 EDT From: PassScribe@aol.com Subject: Andrea, remembered Lori, I don't have too much saved to pass along in the way of e-mail material received from Andrea but she DID surprise me with one short message, after we had exchanged the first couple of posts. She asked me how old I was. I replied (just turned 60) and she responded: "Kenny, I am shocked. I presumed you were a very young person, like in your 20s, by your correspondence. All's forgiven, by the way. Best, Andrea" Boy, talk about an unusual compliment. Now, if I only FELT like I was 20 again... Kenny B ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 19:22:59 -0700 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: mama cass television program SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: >> the best part is when all 3 do a nice version >> of "i shall be released." >> joni takes the third verse-- >> (now yonder stands a man in this lonely crowd...) >> does this count as a new joni cover? > > No, because she also did it with Van & Bob on her '98 tour. I think it was a surprise to Bobby when she & Van came out on stage. Joni muffed the lyrics and giggled at herself. It was highly amusing. Mark E. in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 22:23:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: newbie --- Timothy Foldoe wrote: > Hi everyone, this is Tim (23 yrs old) from southern > New Jersey. This is my > first post. Welcome, Tim. Stick around awhile and keep on posting! ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 22:56:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: newbie --- Michael Paz wrote: While many on the list will tell > you the VG-8 doesn't > sound as good as real acoustic guitars it beats the > hell out of re tuning > the guitar for every song. I've been breaking a lot of guitar strings lately because of retuning (damn that Joni!) so I went in to buy guitar strings today and mentioned using alt tunings. The wiseguy that sold me my last guitar told me I really need another guitar - one tuned to standard and another to alt tunings. I mentioned that there were a whole bunch of different tunings i'd been using, but that, if I were to win the lottery, I might take his suggestion and maybe buy a dozen guitars or so. It was at that point that it occurred to me that the demon VG-8 might not be so terrible after all. (But it don't gots that acoustic vibe that I love so much!) ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 23:03:10 -0400 From: "Timothy Foldoe" Subject: Re: newbie ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Catherine McKay=20 To: Michael Paz ; Timothy Foldoe ; Joni Digest=20 Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 10:56 PM Subject: Re: newbie --- Michael Paz wrote:=20 While many on the list will tell > you the VG-8 doesn't > sound as good as real acoustic guitars it beats the > hell out of re tuning > the guitar for every song.=20 I've been breaking a lot of guitar strings lately because of retuning (damn that Joni!) so I went in to buy guitar strings today and mentioned using alt tunings. The wiseguy that sold me my last guitar told me I really need another guitar - one tuned to standard and another to alt tunings. I mentioned that there were a whole bunch of different tunings i'd been using, but that, if I were to win the lottery, I might take his suggestion and maybe buy a dozen guitars or so. It was at that point that it occurred to me that the demon VG-8 might not be so terrible after all. (But it don't gots that acoustic vibe that I love so much!) I'm not familiar with the vg-8, but I'm guessing its an electric that = can be tuned via an amp processor. I too have broken a set tuning to = Chelsea Morning/ Both Sides, Now I think its an open E. But I got = electric guitar strings, all steel, I have a steel-string guitar, and = they tune rapidly without breaking, or so far anyway I think they have = more flex, which deadens the sound a little if you do a drop D or C, but = I like the sound and some recordings Joni's guitar sounds a little = deadened on the bottom, anyway.=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Catherine=20 Toronto = - -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - ------ We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ = Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of Emoticon1.gif] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 23:08:45 EDT From: Bobsart48@aol.com Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2003 #276 In a message dated 9/3/03 3:01:27 AM Eastern Daylight Time, les@jmdl.com writes: > PassScribe@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2003 22:10:46 -0500 From: "mia ortlieb" Subject: re: Andrea I'm very saddened to hear the news about Andrea. My heart goes out to her family and friends. Recently, I posted a message regarding the songs on CMIARS, and I mentioned that I liked "Lakota." Andrea e-mailed me back privately for the first (and sadly, the last) time and told me how much she also liked "Lakota." At work last Tuesday (before I learned of her death), I was playing CMIARS on my cd player, and when "Lakota" came on, I immediately thought of Andrea's e-mail. Now everytime I hear "Lakota," I will always think of her. This has been such an awful week. A co-worker died Tuesday night (she was only 54), and a friend's father died this morning... and now I hear about Andrea. I wish I could have gotten to know her better. But I also realize that there is nothing any person could have done to save her. My own father committed suicide this same month 9 years ago. I was having a meeting with my son's school teachers at the time. 'If only I'...... this is a never ending thought. He had been very sick for a few years after being layed-off, but then he started getting better. I later learned in a survivors support group that the risk for suicide (for some) is actually greater after a person gets better, because the person can actually think clearer in order to plan it. He really was a good and caring father, and I'm so grateful for the time I did have with him. I sometimes think his troubles were that he cared too much. I am comforted knowing that he is now at peace. I think the idea of having a memorial for Andrea on the website is an excellent idea! Mia _________________________________________________________________ Get 10MB of e-mail storage! Sign up for Hotmail Extra Storage. http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 23:11:19 EDT From: Bobsart48@aol.com Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2003 #276 The Joni content is comprised of her on three different shows; on the first, she sings "The Gallery" and plays guitar (of course) and then sings a duet with Cash (old tune that's been remade recently but I don't know the title offhand.) On the second segment, she sings "Clouds" and plays guitar, then sings another duet with Cash. On the final segment, she plays the dulcimer and sings "California"; then plays piano & sings "My Old Ken, Did you not notice that the CD version of this was one of your gifts at the Jonifest (probably courtesy of Bob Muller). But the DVD sounds interesting (though most of us have seen the video footage of the Both Sides Now one) Bob Sart ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 23:19:30 -0400 From: "Timothy Foldoe" Subject: [none] I was wondering if any of the tabbers have ever used PowerTab. It can be = found here www.power-tab.net, and a bunch of finished tabs can be found = at www.powertabs.net Unfortunately there are virtually no Joni's to be = found in this format - very little singer-songwriter stuff at all, = mostly classic rock, alternative and heavy metal But the avantages with = this program is you can hear the notes as you read them , you can use = any tuning you want, capos offsets, vibratos, just about everything you = see on professional tab scores, as well as import guitar or any tracks = from MIDIs, and it will make tabs from them, unfortunately you still = need some work fixing them. Also it shows in music notation as well, = which makes it real easy to see timing. The best part is its 100% free=20 I'm working on several Joni's as well as CSNY and JT. If anybody else = is interested in converting some of the tabs into powertab format, I = think it would be a great addition to the site. [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of Emoticon7.gif] [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of Emoticon1.gif] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 00:22:58 -0400 From: "Christopher Treacy" Subject: Box Set Art Up On Amazon... That's really all there is to say...it looks nice...very earthy. - -Chris ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 00:40:57 EDT From: KJHSF@aol.com Subject: Re: newbie Welcome Welcome Welcome! Care to share with the group how you discovered Joni? We love hearing those stories! You've stumbled upon a wonderful community of Joni fans, so dive right in and post often! Ken ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 02:02:52 -0400 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Library Links: September 5 On September 5 the following articles were published: 1994: "World Cafe Interview" - WXPN-FM (Interview - Audio Transcription) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=1079 2002: "Joni Mitchell orchestrates retrospective" - USA Today (News Item) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=907 ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2003 #278 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)