From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2003 #271 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Friday, August 29 2003 Volume 2003 : Number 271 Sign up now for JoniFest 2003! http://www.jonifest.com ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: New Joni DVD [Bob Shemkovitz ] Re: Guitarists [Emiliano ] Re: Passion Play [Emiliano ] Beautiful Joni chords ["Sherelle Smith" ] Re: Passion Play ["StephenToogood" ] Re: Passion Play [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Passion Play ["StephenToogood" ] Re: A case of Carolina SJC ["Sherelle Smith" ] Re: Passion Play, now NRH songs [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Passion Play, now NRH songs ["StephenToogood" ] RE: Passion Play, now NRH songs ["Richard Flynn" ] Re: Passion Play [Emiliano ] RE: Passion Play, now NRH songs [Catherine McKay ] Re: JMDL Digest V2003 #429 [BRYAN8847@aol.com] Photos of JoniFest [PassScribe@aol.com] Which Joni for Guitar Work? [Lindsay Moon ] Today in History: August 29 [ljirvin@jmdl.com] Today's Library Links: August 29 [ljirvin@jmdl.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 08:38:23 -0400 From: Bob Shemkovitz Subject: Re: New Joni DVD on Wed, 27 Aug 2003 18:24:58 6, Adam Mulvey wrote: > Subject: Re: New Joni DVD > > Has anyone seen the new 'Woman of Heart and Mind' DVD? I've seen it many times, Adam, and highly recommend it to you. It is easily one of the best documentaries I have ever watched. Not only does it feature Joni in some very articulate interviews about the art and craft of her songwriting, but the film also really plumbs the depths of the emotional content of her work and her life story. It is a very affecting film. And even though I own it on DVD and can watch it anytime I want, when it showed up this Saturday on the local PBS station, I couldn't help but sit down and watch it again. During the pledge breaks, Henry Diltz was in the studio pitching his new book, and he talked about Joni. He is the photographer who took so many of the classic photos of Joni that you see in her albums and in the film. He first met her when Mama Cass threw a party to welcome Eric Clapton to the states, and Graham Nash brought Joni. Anyway, the best story he told was about his rather sly working methods. Diltz of course is a documentary photographer, as opposed to a formal studio photographer. But whenever Joni would have a session scheduled with a studio guy, Diltz would call her up and ask her if he could come too. So there she'd be all in clothes and makeup for the formal studio shoot, and Diltz would come in and snap off a few bootleg shots. Gotta admire the chutzpah. Oh yeah. Diltz also mentioned that Joni really likes to talk. Who knew? By the way, since someone mentioned synchronicity in today's digest, I might as well mention that it was kind of synchronistic that I should find the Joni film on TV when I got home this Saturday. I had just returned from my niece's birthday party, where I gave her a copy of Blue for her first Joni CD. Bob By the way, here is Diltz's website. A lot of interesting pics of Joni, CSN, etc: http://www.henrysgallery.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 15:23:24 +0200 From: Emiliano Subject: Re: Guitarists - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kate Bennett" To: Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 5:57 AM Subject: Re: Guitarists > >I'm no expert but do any of you guys think that Janis Ian should have made > that list?< > > yes, she is a wonderful guitarist...i imagine that the list is heavily > weighed not only on the male side but on the electric guitar side...did any > men who play acoustic make the list? did richie havens? did any classical or > flamenco guitarists? Hi, Kate! As reading in La Voz de Galicia's yesterday edition: [...] and it's the electric guitar, exclusively, what this ranking judges; this explains Paco de Luci'a's absence, usually considerated one of world's greatest when spanish guitar are included. [...] I think you must know Paco de Luci'a, at least through his work with McLaughlin & Al di Meola (and Larry Corryell?). Regarding our Queen, Pablo Carballo says: "songwriter of long run (career) and wide influence" Well, Have a Wonderful time! Emiliano NP: Al di Meola & Paco de Luci'a: Mediterranean sundance / Ri'o ancho ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 17:14:31 +0200 From: Emiliano Subject: Re: Passion Play Hi, Stephen! Reading posts from the past (last november: I wasn't the happy JiMDLer I'm now) in order to read first impressions on Travelogue (one thing I'm very curious about), I found these two more references: As you see, Bob's is amazingly useful, as is Hell's one I sent you yesterday! Many many many thanks to all of you; dears, you Rock! Emiliano NP: Slouching Towards Bethlehem - ----------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 13:31:35 -0500 From: "Erica L. Trudelle" Subject: Re: Passion Play I'm sure other people here can give you a more definite answer, but I read (here) that Joni was possibly inspired to write "Passion Play" after attending an actual Passion Play (which I think is recreation of sorts having to do with Jesus' death) Don't hold me to that, I just remember some other listers mentioning it within the last 6 months. I was just listening to this song about 20 minutes ago, I love it!!!! "who you gonna get to do the dirty work when all the slaves are free......." it's a timeless line that works on so many levels.....oh and I love when she calls Jesus a "magical physician" (I am reading a book in which someone calls the Dalai Lama a "spiritual physician", it made me think of that lyric) Hope this helps some what. Erica NP: "For Free" I would love to hear people's thoughts on "Passion Play (When All The Slaves Are Free)" particularly the lyrics. What exactly is this song about? It seems to me to be a quasi love song/protest song but I'd love to hear some interpretations if you are so inclined. - - -Andrew --------------------------- Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 15:06:45 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Passion Play Yeah, we've had some pretty good discussions about this one in the past, some parts of this song are pretty black and white in terms of their interpretation & others are real gray...anyway, here's my blow by blow fwiw: "Magdalene is trembling Like a washing on a line Trembling and gleaming Never before was a man so kind Never so redeeming" the term Magdalene refers to a woman from the area of Magdala. This could be a reference to Mary Magdalene, or it could be a reference to the woman who was caught in the act of adultery and about to be stoned, and Jesus told the crowd that "whoever of you is without sin can cast the first stone", which of course dispersed the crowd and would have left the woman in awe as well as trembling. This was also a case where the Pharisees were trying to trip Jesus up & he foiled them. "I am up a sycamore Looking through the leaves A sinner of some position Who in the world can this heart healer be This magical physician" This is a reference to Zaccheus the tax collector, a small man who had to climb a sycamore tree to see Jesus as he passed. Jesus noticed him in the tree, called him down, had dinner with him, and so converted Zaccheus' spirit that he returned the monies he had conned people out of. "Enter the multitudes The walking wounded They come to this diver of the heart of the multitudes Thy kingdom come Thy will be done" This always reminds me of the scene in Jesus Christ Superstar where Jesus can hardly move for the people grabbing on to him, in search of healing for their disablility...but it could just be a simple reference to the Sermon on the Mount, where Jesus preached to the multitudes and where he teaches the Lord's Prayer to the crowd (Matthew 6: 9-13). "Oh climb down climb down he says to me From the middle of unrest They think is light is squandered But he sees a stray in the wilderness And I see how far I've wandered" This verse seems to simply state that the person singing the song is seeking the same direction and/or redemption as the biblical characters that Jesus interacted with in the beginnings of the song. I wouldn't go so far as saying that it's *Joni* stating this as she's not prone to so openly embrace Christianity. (Matter of fact, given her earlier musical references to Jesus & The Bible, this song has always stuck out like a sore thumb to me). "Oh all around the marketplace The buzzing of the flies The buzzing and the stinging Divinely barren And wickedly wise The killer nails are ringing" Divinely Barren - wickedly wise to me describes the Pharisees, the "holy men" who were threatened by Jesus power over the "slaves" who were doing the dirty work of the day, and were kept in place by the Pharisees enforcing of religion as law rather than love. The "killer nails" refer to the crucifixion of Jesus. OK, so that leaves us with the chorus, which to me is a bit more puzzling... "Enter the multitudes In Exxon blue In radiation rose" Could refer to the colors of the costumes of those in a modern-day passion play...could be equating the "slaves" of Jesus' day to the people who are employed in the gas & nuclear industries...could mean something else entirely! Then you get the 4-word chain: "Ecstasy - Misery - Apathy - Tragedy" Which for me breaks down Jesus' fulfillment of his mission on Earth...the early ecstasy of the miracles, healing, preachings, etc. with his ministry. The Misery of his capture & treatment (crown of thorns, etc) by Herod & the Romans, the Apathy of the crowd as they turned on Jesus and commanded that the prisoner Barrabas be set free and supported the crucifixion, and ending in the Tragedy of his death on the cross, killed not just out of the fear of the jealous leaders but also from those who betrayed him like Judas & Peter. "Now you tell me Who you gonna get to do the dirty work When all the slaves are free? (Who're you gonna get)" Again, this closing part of the song descibes the rationalization that drove the Pharisees to act as swiftly as they did, when they realized that the masses were being awakened and changed. That's my take on it....like I say, for what it's worth. Bob NP: The Bird Sisters, "Woodstock - ----------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 17:35:51 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Beautiful Joni chords Hi all, I'm at work listening to the CD Court and Spark (isn't it great to be able to do?) very low of course. I'm listening to Help Me, and thinking about the post where someone mentioned that they loved the alternating chords of Heijera. I do too, but I absolutely adore the chord progressions in this song. It has such beautiful changes and flow between the chords. I have Synesthesia, so the colors flow very beautifully as I listen to them. I won't name my colors because everyone has different ones and for them, their colors are completely absolute. I've learned to appreciate the differences. The song makes me feel so free and carefree. the melody is so flirty free and honest. That's the best way I can describe the sensastion. When Joni sings, "Help me..." you get the feeling of falling and I think she purposed the melody to do so. I've studied theory a little bit. I've never had a chance to sit down and see what kind of chord progression are going on that make this song so special to me. If anyone wants to elaborate, I would absolutely love it! Sherelle _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8: Get 6 months for $9.95/month http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 19:06:30 +0100 From: "StephenToogood" Subject: Re: Passion Play Wow! Thanks to everyone who helped me with this question... Emiliano, Emi & Bill B. Bob's post especially made a lot of sense to me. I do briefly remember the 'Exxon Blue' discussion. I guess I was a little caught up at the time! It really is amazing how much thought Joni puts into her lyrics and on how many levels they work. I love this woman! Steve T NP: Cherokee Louise (TLOG) - Joni ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 14:20:58 -0400 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Passion Play > Bob's post especially made a lot of sense to me. Me too! :~) I don't typically save posts, but as that question has popped up here a number of times, I decided to save my response so I wouldn't have to re-invent the wheel each time someone asked about Passion Play. It really is a beautiful song, both musically & lyrically and it's also very biblical. It remains my favorite song on NRH, although the title track, Cherokee Louise, Two Grey Rooms are constantly nipping at its heels. And as much as I think Joni's songs are open to a myriad of interpretations, to overlook the biblical imagery in Passion Play is to overlook the point of the song. Bob NP: Dinah Washington, "Willow Weep For Me" sing it honey! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 19:58:45 +0100 From: "StephenToogood" Subject: Re: Passion Play Hi Bob, It has only been recently that I've noticed how beatiful 'Passion Play' is musicaly as well as lyricly. Most of 'Night Ride Home' in fact! I especially love the other songs you mentioned too! I would also add 'Come In From Cold' and even 'The Windfall' - Eveen though Joni's trying to get a serious point across I always end up laughing to this one! Steve NP: Carey - Joni > > Bob's post especially made a lot of sense to me. > > Me too! :~) > > I don't typically save posts, but as that question has popped > up here a number of times, I decided to save my response so I > wouldn't have to re-invent the wheel each time someone asked > about Passion Play. It really is a beautiful song, both musically > & lyrically and it's also very biblical. > > It remains my favorite song on NRH, although the title track, > Cherokee Louise, Two Grey Rooms are constantly nipping at its heels. > > And as much as I think Joni's songs are open to a myriad of > interpretations, to overlook the biblical imagery in Passion > Play is to overlook the point of the song. > > Bob > > NP: Dinah Washington, "Willow Weep For Me" sing it honey! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 19:23:41 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: A case of Carolina SJC Dear Joseph, How wonderful that you've made it over here! I've finally caught up on my digests and was delighted to see that you are adjusting well to life in North Carolina. My daughter graduated from North Carolina A&T University nearby. Believe it or not, there are quite a few Joni CD's that I have not purchased yet. I did not purchase Travelogue or Both Sides Now. I've put them on my wish list. My most favorite recent Joni CD (recent meaning since I joined the group almost ten years ago) is Turbulent Indigo. I absolutely love almost every song on that CD. At any rate, I am so happy that you are here. You have been such a wonderful friend these past years! Love, Sherelle _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8: Get 6 months for $9.95/month http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 15:57:12 -0400 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Passion Play, now NRH songs > I especially love the other songs you mentioned too! I would also add 'Come > In From Cold' and even 'The Windfall' - Even though Joni's > trying to get a > serious point across I always end up laughing to this one! Yeah, those 2 songs to me are strong lyrically, but musically there's not much there for me to hang my hat on. Come In From The Cold has the more accessible melody, but over the course of the long song it becomes a bit tedious, with the title line being repeated so much it dilutes some of the truly great lyrics in the song, like: "The world held promise For a slave to liberty Freely I slaved away for something better And I was bought and sold" A clever transition from her young dreams to her later reality; "And they hawk-eyed us from the sidelines Holding their rulers without a heart And so with just a touch of our fingers I could make our circuitry explode" This verse just brings up such specific pictures and conveys a feeling that is so strong, as does: "I feel your leg under the table Leaning into mine" Joni has such a good way of explaining a FEELING that we can all instantly identify with. Maybe if she had canned the "chorus" in the song ala "Song For Sharon" and just let it roll from verse to verse it would be less tedious for me. As for "The Windfall", you're right...you almost have to laugh to deal with the vitriol in there...as much as DED was an angry record, I don't know as Joni has ever written anything as incendiary as: "Oh I'm tangled in your lies Your scam Your spider web Spit spun between the trees Doors slam You want my head You'd eat your young alive For a jaguar in the drive" I just wish the song was more interesting musically...it's one of the songs where the melody is so inaccessible that the only way you can sing it is to sing ALONG with it. Bob, born "back in 1957..." NP: Weezer, "Take Control" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 22:30:12 +0100 From: "StephenToogood" Subject: Re: Passion Play, now NRH songs Bob wrote: > Yeah, those 2 songs to me are strong lyrically, but musically > there's not much there for me to hang my hat on. Come In From > The Cold has the more accessible melody, but over the course > of the long song it becomes a bit tedious, with the title line > being repeated so much it dilutes some of the truly great lyrics > in the song, like: > > "The world held promise > For a slave to liberty > Freely I slaved away for something better > And I was bought and sold" > > A clever transition from her young dreams to her later reality; > > "And they hawk-eyed us from the sidelines > Holding their rulers without a heart > And so with just a touch of our fingers > I could make our circuitry explode" > > This verse just brings up such specific pictures and conveys a > feeling that is so strong, as does: > > "I feel your leg under the table > Leaning into mine" > > Joni has such a good way of explaining a FEELING that we can > all instantly identify with. Maybe if she had canned the "chorus" > in the song ala "Song For Sharon" and just let it roll from > verse to verse it would be less tedious for me. Yes I never thought of that, it probably would have worked better. I wonder if when writing the song she had it in mind as a single which of course it was. Lots of people dislike songs without choruses but of course they don't 'get' Joni. 'For The Roses', 'Shades Of Scarlet Conquering'...actually a whole lot of Joni songs don't have choruses and they are masterpieces. Joni songs like 'The Circle Game' I can't listen to as often because the choruses to tend to get a bit repetative (TLOG vers is pure torture!) . > As for "The Windfall", you're right...you almost have to laugh > to deal with the vitriol in there...as much as DED was an angry > record, I don't know as Joni has ever written anything as > incendiary as: > > "Oh I'm tangled in your lies > Your scam > Your spider web > Spit spun between the trees > Doors slam > You want my head > You'd eat your young alive > For a jaguar in the drive" > > I just wish the song was more interesting musically...it's one > of the songs where the melody is so inaccessible that the only > way you can sing it is to sing ALONG with it. It does seem a bit 'gappy' but musicaly I find it quite interesting. The bass is great and I don't even mind the synth. I do love 'Two Grey Rooms' but the structure seems very weird to me! Anyone else feel that? Steve NP: Between The Lines - Janis Ian ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 17:39:19 -0400 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: Passion Play, now NRH songs OK, I've wracked my brain, what is TLOG? "For the Roses" is a masterpiece, but I'd say that "Shades of Scarlet Conquering" falls short since it engages in Southern stereotypes to make its point. (Musically,it's beautiful--and actually I'm a trasplanted yankee). > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]On Behalf Of > StephenToogood > Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 5:30 PM > To: Joni List > Subject: Re: Passion Play, now NRH songs > > > Bob wrote: > > Yeah, those 2 songs to me are strong lyrically, but musically > > there's not much there for me to hang my hat on. Come In From > > The Cold has the more accessible melody, but over the course > > of the long song it becomes a bit tedious, with the title line > > being repeated so much it dilutes some of the truly great lyrics > > in the song, like: > > > > "The world held promise > > For a slave to liberty > > Freely I slaved away for something better > > And I was bought and sold" > > > > A clever transition from her young dreams to her later reality; > > > > "And they hawk-eyed us from the sidelines > > Holding their rulers without a heart > > And so with just a touch of our fingers > > I could make our circuitry explode" > > > > This verse just brings up such specific pictures and conveys a > > feeling that is so strong, as does: > > > > "I feel your leg under the table > > Leaning into mine" > > > > Joni has such a good way of explaining a FEELING that we can > > all instantly identify with. Maybe if she had canned the "chorus" > > in the song ala "Song For Sharon" and just let it roll from > > verse to verse it would be less tedious for me. > > Yes I never thought of that, it probably would have worked > better. I wonder > if when writing the song she had it in mind as a single which of course it > was. Lots of people dislike songs without choruses but of course > they don't > 'get' Joni. 'For The Roses', 'Shades Of Scarlet Conquering'...actually a > whole lot of Joni songs don't have choruses and they are > masterpieces. Joni > songs like 'The Circle Game' I can't listen to as often because > the choruses > to tend to get a bit repetative (TLOG vers is pure torture!) . > > > As for "The Windfall", you're right...you almost have to laugh > > to deal with the vitriol in there...as much as DED was an angry > > record, I don't know as Joni has ever written anything as > > incendiary as: > > > > "Oh I'm tangled in your lies > > Your scam > > Your spider web > > Spit spun between the trees > > Doors slam > > You want my head > > You'd eat your young alive > > For a jaguar in the drive" > > > > I just wish the song was more interesting musically...it's one > > of the songs where the melody is so inaccessible that the only > > way you can sing it is to sing ALONG with it. > > It does seem a bit 'gappy' but musicaly I find it quite interesting. The > bass is great and I don't even mind the synth. > > I do love 'Two Grey Rooms' but the structure seems very weird to me! > Anyone else feel that? > > Steve > > NP: Between The Lines - Janis Ian ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 17:45:17 -0400 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: Passion Play, now NRH songs Never mind, you mean Travelogue version of "The Circle Game," right? NOthing is so torturous as the cd Both Sides Now, especially the 2 Joni songs. Travelogue is a masterpiece compared to that. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]On Behalf Of > Richard Flynn > Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 5:39 PM > To: StephenToogood; Joni List > Subject: RE: Passion Play, now NRH songs > > > OK, I've wracked my brain, what is TLOG? "For the Roses" is a > masterpiece, > but I'd say that "Shades of Scarlet Conquering" falls short since > it engages > in Southern stereotypes to make its point. (Musically,it's beautiful--and > actually I'm a trasplanted yankee). > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]On Behalf Of > > StephenToogood > > Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 5:30 PM > > To: Joni List > > Subject: Re: Passion Play, now NRH songs > > > > > > Bob wrote: > > > Yeah, those 2 songs to me are strong lyrically, but musically > > > there's not much there for me to hang my hat on. Come In From > > > The Cold has the more accessible melody, but over the course > > > of the long song it becomes a bit tedious, with the title line > > > being repeated so much it dilutes some of the truly great lyrics > > > in the song, like: > > > > > > "The world held promise > > > For a slave to liberty > > > Freely I slaved away for something better > > > And I was bought and sold" > > > > > > A clever transition from her young dreams to her later reality; > > > > > > "And they hawk-eyed us from the sidelines > > > Holding their rulers without a heart > > > And so with just a touch of our fingers > > > I could make our circuitry explode" > > > > > > This verse just brings up such specific pictures and conveys a > > > feeling that is so strong, as does: > > > > > > "I feel your leg under the table > > > Leaning into mine" > > > > > > Joni has such a good way of explaining a FEELING that we can > > > all instantly identify with. Maybe if she had canned the "chorus" > > > in the song ala "Song For Sharon" and just let it roll from > > > verse to verse it would be less tedious for me. > > > > Yes I never thought of that, it probably would have worked > > better. I wonder > > if when writing the song she had it in mind as a single which > of course it > > was. Lots of people dislike songs without choruses but of course > > they don't > > 'get' Joni. 'For The Roses', 'Shades Of Scarlet > Conquering'...actually a > > whole lot of Joni songs don't have choruses and they are > > masterpieces. Joni > > songs like 'The Circle Game' I can't listen to as often because > > the choruses > > to tend to get a bit repetative (TLOG vers is pure torture!) . > > > > > As for "The Windfall", you're right...you almost have to laugh > > > to deal with the vitriol in there...as much as DED was an angry > > > record, I don't know as Joni has ever written anything as > > > incendiary as: > > > > > > "Oh I'm tangled in your lies > > > Your scam > > > Your spider web > > > Spit spun between the trees > > > Doors slam > > > You want my head > > > You'd eat your young alive > > > For a jaguar in the drive" > > > > > > I just wish the song was more interesting musically...it's one > > > of the songs where the melody is so inaccessible that the only > > > way you can sing it is to sing ALONG with it. > > > > It does seem a bit 'gappy' but musicaly I find it quite interesting. The > > bass is great and I don't even mind the synth. > > > > I do love 'Two Grey Rooms' but the structure seems very weird to me! > > Anyone else feel that? > > > > Steve > > > > NP: Between The Lines - Janis Ian ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 00:04:27 +0200 From: Emiliano Subject: Re: Passion Play Hi, Steve! - ----- Original Message ----- From: "StephenToogood" > Wow! Thanks to everyone who helped me with this question... > Emiliano, Emi & Bill B. (Emiliano:) Emiliano & Emi (HMV) are really the same person: I've get to know him more'n more through all these (42) years! BTW: who is Bill B.? Excuse me William but I can't remember your posts. > Bob's post especially made a lot of sense to me. (E:) In fact, I *love* Hell's post about it, too! [...] > It really is amazing how much thought Joni puts into her lyrics and on how > many levels they work. I love this woman! (E:) Yes, I agree: it's amazing how a sublime song like this works: First, I was hooked with its percussion; it's really mesmerizing... maybe it's the tenth world or the easiness at body I feel: I don't know for sure. Then, the singing: one of these Joni moments ("Best bit of Joni singing?". on JMDL while festinos laughed & worshipped in joy) is for me "this diver of the heart" Wow! I go crazy, I fall to pieces! to be continued... Yours: Emiliano PS: among NRH's "three most" is Slouching Towards Bethlehem, for sure! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 20:20:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: RE: Passion Play, now NRH songs --- Richard Flynn wrote: > OK, I've wracked my brain, what is TLOG? TLOG. Don't you love it? You've just reminded me of another phobia of mine - fear of acronyms and suchlike! TLOG is what some people call "Travelogue." Once again, don't you just love it? NOT! ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 20:21:36 EDT From: BRYAN8847@aol.com Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2003 #429 >>I'm no expert but do any of you guys think that Janis Ian should have made >that list?< Absolutely. Unfortunately, Janis is pretty much off the radar screen these days, and her more widely known work is from years ago, before her awesome guitar talents really began to show (in the mid-90s, I think). Bryan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 23:36:05 EDT From: PassScribe@aol.com Subject: Photos of JoniFest To all: I sent an e-mail to Chris (chris@hatstand.org) requesting information on how to send my photos from JoniFest to the album (where all the others are) but did not receive a reply. Can anyone tell me how to go about this task? Kenny B ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 21:04:47 -0700 From: Lindsay Moon Subject: Which Joni for Guitar Work? On our local radio station which prides itself on playing things "never heard on the radio," in-studio interviews, live sessions in their studio, etc., etc. they just about never play our Joan. Don't get me started. I've written and called several times ... Anyway, they were talking on the morning drive about the recent poll of top guitarists and did mention the only two women who made the list were Joni at 78 (is it?) and now it's slipped my mind what other woman made it. So I have these pretend conversations in my head (all right, so I'll never live this down) where I call the station and say, "People may wonder why Joni Mitchell made that list. My suggestion for something of hers to play to illustrate her inclusion would be ... and let me explain a little bit about the originality of her open tunings ..." What would you recommend to a neophyte to showcase her guitar talents? I think "Cold Blue Steel & Sweet Fire" might be one pick. And I definitely think Bonnie Raitt should have made that list. Lindsay ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 02:02:54 -0400 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today in History: August 29 1969: Joni opens for Crosby, Stills, Nash, and Young at the Greek Theater in Los Angeles. More info: http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=153 1970: Joni performs on the second day of the "Isle Of Wight Festival" at the East Afton Farm, Godshill, Isle of Wight. More info: http://www.jmdl.com/performances/docs/700829.cfm http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=648 http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=806 1986: The Showtime series "Coast to Coast" hosted by Herbie Hancock premiered. Joni was a guest on that first show for a jam session with Herbie, Bobby McFerrin, Wayne Shorter, David Sanborn, and Larry. The two songs they jammed on were "Furry Sing the Blues," and a pepped-up latin-flavored version of "Hejira." More info: http://www.jonimitchell.com/Experimental.html - ---- For a comprehensive reference to Joni's appearances, consult Joni Mitchell ~ A Chronology of Appearances: http://www.jonimitchell.com/appearances.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 02:02:54 -0400 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Library Links: August 29 On August 29 the following articles were published: 1969: "Joni's Love of Words Turns Into $500,000 Bonanza" - Saskatoon StarPhoenix (Interview) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=641 1979: "Joni's talent is original" - Philadelphia Bulletin (Review - Concert) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=887 ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2003 #271 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)