From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2003 #270 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Thursday, August 28 2003 Volume 2003 : Number 270 Sign up now for JoniFest 2003! http://www.jonifest.com ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: JONI COVERS?? [Deb Messling ] Re: JoniCento [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: JONI COVERS?? [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Amelia in a new book [=?iso-8859-1?Q?Emiliano_Pati=F1o?= ] Re: JONI COVERS?? [Les Irvin ] RE: Warren Zevon on VH1 [] Oops! [] New Joni DVD ["Adam Mulvey" ] Re: New Joni DVD [Phyliss Ward ] Re: Guitarists ["StephenToogood" ] Re: Joni on Last Waltz + question ["StephenToogood" ] RE South African Music Sampler ["ron" ] A Case of Carolina (SJC) [] Re: New Joni DVD [Jupydoo@aol.com] Re: question [Emi ] Re: staring a hole [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] mystical happenings ["anon anon" ] Re: New Joni DVD [Deb Messling ] Re: A Case of Carolina (SJC) [Michael Paz ] Re: Warren Zevon on VH1 SJC [Aerchak@aol.com] Re: Joni & Sports [hell@ihug.co.nz] Re: Guitarists ["Kate Bennett" ] Today in History: August 28 [ljirvin@jmdl.com] Today's Library Links: August 28 [ljirvin@jmdl.com] Jane who? [ash ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 07:06:46 -0400 From: Deb Messling Subject: Re: JONI COVERS?? Off the top of my head, besides the songs on official releases, I know she's covered Get Together, Mr. Tambourine Man, I Heard it Through the Grapevine, Trouble Man. She sang Sugar Mountain on Gene Shay's radio show. (I was at Gene Shay's big shindig, the Philly Folk Festival, last weekend. Did you know you can now buy an official Gene Shay bobble-head doll?). At 02:23 AM 8/27/2003 -0400, you wrote: >Hello all :) > > I saw Tori Amos this weekend and although she didnt grace me with any > Joni covers It got me thinkin...Has Joni ever performed other peoples > songs live in concert???Maybe our resident cover expert Bob would > know...Are you the expert on Joni doin covers too??? lol Im not really > talkin bout the covers that appear on albums...Like she just felt like > playin.."Ohio" or soemthing cause she felt the need... >Hope you all are having a great day..If not ..then try to.. > >****kevin**** > > > >--- >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.509 / Virus Database: 306 - Release Date: 8/12/2003 - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Deb Messling -^..^- messling@enter.net - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 08:13:42 -0400 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: JoniCento In a message dated 8/26/2003 11:40:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Murphycopy writes: > Like this, it's made up of Joni lines, but > mine -- in my humble opinion -- is much better, at least on > paper. I'm sure it is, Bob...this particular cento was written to be performed, so it scans a bit odd at times. And whenever I think about Joni Centos, I remember Willie the Shake's unforgettable post 9-11 piece, which I thought was just brilliant. Along with John van Tiel's and Kay Ashley's thoughts, it brought about a lot of healing for me. Bob NP: Tom Waits, "New Coat Of Paint" (live) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 08:30:59 -0400 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: JONI COVERS?? In a message dated 8/27/2003 7:06:46 AM Eastern Daylight Time, messling@enter.net writes: > I know > she's covered Get Together, Mr. Tambourine Man, I Heard it Through the > Grapevine, Trouble Man. She sang Sugar Mountain on Gene > Shay's radio show. That's a good start, Deb...of course she DID record "Trouble Man", so if you count that one then you have to count her SIZZLIN' live take on "Summertime" at the 'Day In The Garden'. I'm also working off the top of my pointy and ever-greying head, but I would add: - -Goodbye, Blue Sky (from the live performance of "The Wall") - -Yarrow (performed on her 1976 tour) - -It's All Over Now, Baby Blue (improvised on the spot on a radio show, with "Not To Blame" chords) - -What's A Nice Girl Like You (I know it's not the right title, anyway it's the Dylan song she performed at last year's Walden Woods benefit) And I'll add one that has just surfaced: - -Me & My Uncle John (performed on "Let's Sing Out" in 1965) Also I'll note that these are all solo vocal performances...if you start adding duets then the list gets much longer, what with the Johnny Cash stuff, the Let's Sing Out stuff (Prithee Pretty Ashara!), The Dolphin Song with Fred Neil, etc, etc. Wouldn't it be great if there was a website...(nope, better not go there!) ;~) Bob NP: Tom Waits, "The One That Got Away" (live) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 14:38:42 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Emiliano_Pati=F1o?= Subject: Re: Amelia in a new book Hi, Debra! Hi, Bob! That's a great new, isn't it? That's Fiction? Coffe Table Books section? Keep on ... Yours: Emiliano > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Deb Messling" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 11:58 PM > Subject: Amelia in a new book > > > > The lyrics to Amelia, among other poems, are featured in a new book, > > Flight: A Celebration of 100 Years in Art and Literature. > > > > http://tinyurl.com/la8c ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 09:17:48 -0400 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Bad news for the Cover guy or a Les goof? On the JMDL homepage, I noticed this blurb in the "This Month In History": ********************************************************* 1964: Joni makes a three-day trip on the Canadian Pacific Railroad to get to the Mariposa Folk Festival mainly to see Buffy Sainte-Marie perform. During the trip, she wrote the song "Day by Day". ********************************************************* Having just performed Godspell, I feel certain that Joni did not write its signature hit song "Day by Day". If I'm mistaken, then I need to sell my house in order to pay for all the covers of this song which would outshadow Both Sides Now I'll bet. Anyway, I think my house is safe...Stephen Schwartz wrote the Godspell hit "Day BY Day", and Joni's song is titled "Day After Day". Hey Les, tighten up, willya? :~) Bob NP: Tom Waits, "Had Me A Girl" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 22:14:10 +1000 From: ash Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2003 #422 Hello Everyone .... from Tasmania..yippee Spring is a comin! and I saw Mars! I thought I would share this......... Oh yes...I love all the daily emails I get from the Joni fan club.......even tho I read em at the end of the week. last week on Ebay for Australia...I got Travelogue, which has not been off my CD player since...driven the family mad! The man I bought it off in Sydney has supplied a list of Joni's CD's, that he can get me..... at 1/2 price the cost of here in Tasmania!! So Ebay works! but why was there only 6 items in Oz and 6 pages worldwide? Also I wish I had gone to the Joni fest...honest Back to lurking again..oh yes laffing Ashley (named after some super chap from a 1930's film called Gone with the ?...wished I was called Rhett tho!...damm Yankees) I also thought it funny the person who wrote she wished she was a Joni Virgin again...I.em. knowing nothing about Joni....but to me...that makes it more interesting..to know the background and......I watched 'Woodstock' on video and this time actually enjoyed it! and I love anything Canadian...okay the women, McGarrigle sisters, Tara Moss, Heart, Allanah Miles, KD Lang etc etc Would love to buy into the Catholic thing..... but its the (so called ) Christian (er Nazi training camps) schools in Tasmanian..that in the last year I have had to drag my 3 sprogs (kids) out of and put them in a Normal State school...last straw was...my youngest (11) signing over herself to God and disowning us as parents as God was her real father!! We have just had on TV here 'Brides of Christ' a Oz production (with Naomi Watts..her out of the 'Ring' ) a mini series all about the nuns...1960's in Oz and then there was 'the leaving of Liverpool' a BBC doco?...all about British children in 1940 sent out to the colonies...Oz and Canada..to be abused...horrid stuff! But my favourite girlfriend (the wife not reading this) was Jane Werner (where are you now?)..yep a Catholic Convent girl..we were 17...wow still brings a smile...she was so suppressed sexually by guilt...later on her parents saw me as the anti Christ..well I was just lucky that I got in the way of freeing herself of sin!! and why would Ringo make you a dyke? maybe Harrison..but Ringo...nooooooooo way...my aunt went to school with him! I saw the Beatles return from the States..I wanted to be John Lennon or Dr Winston O'Boogie..did not get the Walrus bit?????? and why was the last episode of Xena not shown here..that kiss! Question?.....will Joni visit Tasmania?.......if I asked nicely?.....I am sure my wife* would be so pleased to put her up in the spare bedroom........that's Joni that goes in the spare bedroom..not the wife! * Okay she is not my wife..she is her own person and I do not own her etc....and I am a sexist pig...but about to find my feminie side? and loved the one about finding ...Grey/Gray pubes...I just shave mine! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 09:32:58 -0600 From: Les Irvin Subject: Re: JONI COVERS?? At 8/27/2003 06:30 AM, SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: >-What's A Nice Girl Like You (I know it's not the right title, anyway >it's the Dylan song she performed at last year's Walden Woods benefit) "Sweetheart Like You" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 12:03:14 -0500 From: Subject: RE: Warren Zevon on VH1 Kate wrote: "thanks to anne for bringing this show to my attention...it was a wonderful, funny, tender & very moving tribute to the man...i admire so much what he is doing right now & so happy he was able to complete his project & see his grandsons born...i loved the conversation between warren & gorge (old friend & producer of his album) which reminded me a bit of what a great friend nash has been to crosby...did anyone else see it?" Yes: I stayed up late and spent the first hour of my birthday seeing that show. There were some inaccuracies in WZ's biography at the beginning, but the show itself was. . .well, worth staying up for. The highlights for me were the scene with Springsteen laying down his track, and Zevon's daughter telling him a very special piece of news toward the end. The show was rebroadcast yesterday evening, and hopefully, I got it on tape. By coincidence, WZ's new, presumably last CD was released on my birthday, so I requested it from my sweetie as my gift, and it was waiting for me on the kitchen table when I returned home yesterday. I'm listening to it now for the first time, and so far, I am IMPRESSED. The songs are good ones, and he's in remarkably strong voice. The record also has an all-star line-up. A related story I read recently: apparently, when WZ made the announcement of his illness last year and decided that he wanted to record a final album, everyone wanted to be on it! After the work was completed, Warren's son Jordan, who had the thankless task of coordinating many of the details, started sending out faxes to all the musicians asking for certain documentation so that they could be paid--and was met with resounding silence. He started to panic, and thought, "Oh, no--Bruce Springsteen isn't going to send me his social security number!" Then one musician finally came out and told him, "Look. It just doesn't feel right, getting paid for this." Jordan Zevon swiftly issued a second round of faxes, saying, "Look, I appreciate that you don't want payment, but you have contractual obligations, and we can't use the performances if we don't pay you." This time, a flood of information came back almost immediately. What friends. WZ has been housebound since spring, and is no longer making any direct statements to the press. Reading between the lines, I expect that we will be reading the unfortunate announcement all too soon. But what a parting gift he managed to give us first: both in the CD (which is, by turns, wistful, wicked, rollicking, funny, and heartbreaking), and in allowing the cameras in for the whole range of moments in this process so that we could see, first-hand, a man approaching death with knowledge and unassailable dignity. Mary P. P.S. So far I've been listening to Zevon and staying away from the Catholic thread. That, however, may change. ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 12:07:25 -0500 From: Subject: Oops! Sorry, folks: that last post on Warren Zevon should have been labeled NJC. My sincere apologies. Going back to my corner now. . . Mary P. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 18:24:58 +0100 From: "Adam Mulvey" Subject: New Joni DVD Has anyone seen the new 'Woman of Heart and Mind' DVD? It looks really good - there's a fantastic review in Word magazine this month. Adam ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 11:42:31 -0700 From: Phyliss Ward Subject: Re: New Joni DVD It's to die for my dear! Go buy it right now! You will not be sorry! I'm embarassed (among non-jmdl'rs) to say I've already watched it start to finish 4 times!!! Adam Mulvey wrote: >Has anyone seen the new 'Woman of Heart and Mind' DVD? It looks really >good - there's a fantastic review in Word magazine this month. > >Adam ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 20:19:06 +0100 From: "StephenToogood" Subject: Re: Guitarists That's sooo good because I feel that Joni's guitar talents get ignored a lot because of the whole tunings thing which is a shame. Different tunings however have always appealed to me. I'm no expert but do any of you guys think that Janis Ian should have made that list? I always though Joan Jett only sang. She done anything good? Steve NP: Otis & Marlena (TLOG) - Joni - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry D." To: Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 4:16 PM Subject: Re: Guitarists > Sister Rosetta Tharpe. > > ---------------------- > > Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 19:23:17 -0400 > From: Deb Messling > Subject: Joni on Rolling Stone's poll of top > guitarists > > Reuters reports that Joni Mitchell came in at #72 on > Rolling Stone's > list > of the 100 top guitarists of all time. Jimi Hendrix > is number 1. The > only other woman to make the list is Joan Jett, at > #87. Not sure from > the > Reuters article if this is a reader's poll or a > creation of the > Rollling > Stone editors. I can think of a couple of other women > who might > deserve to > make such a list. Didn't someone on the list recently > mention Ellen > McIlwaine? What about Rory Block? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 20:43:28 +0100 From: "StephenToogood" Subject: Re: Joni on Last Waltz + question Hi Bruce welcome to the list! I'm sure you'll fit right in. Yeah I was blown away with Joni's performance of Coyote on the Last Waltz. I remember being quite captivated watching it. I didn't even really like the song much before that! Talkin' of seeing things in a new light - if been rediscovering Jon's early 90's stuff and I can't get enough! 'Passion Play', 'The Sire Of Sorrow', 'Two Grey Rooms' and 'The Windfall' now seem especially clear to me. Does anyone have much of an insight to what 'Passion Play' may be about? There seems to be a slavery theme and a few religious lines plus something about renewal in men but I'm a bit stuck on this one. I'm so in love with it right now. I even appreciate the synth touches which bothered me before. There really is a lot more instrumentation detail in that song than I once thought. Steve NP: Woodstock (TLOG) - Joni - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Aronow" To: Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 4:29 PM Subject: Joni on Last Waltz > Hi there jmdlers > I just joined the list after getting the Last Waltz DVD. I am sure all of > you appreciate why, but being a complete neonate, I still feel moved to > explain just a little of my feelings and why I would be drawn to an > opportunity to talk and listen to you on JM. As soon as I heard Joni's > first sweet background vocals on Neil Young's Helpless from backstage it > just gave me goosebumps chills warmth you name it. And then when she gave > Robbie that beautiful kiss, strummed those first chords of Coyote and sang > so clear strong sweet with the understanding and humanity of the ages.. Oh > ode to joy. It is still what the world needs now. Not by the spoonful. By > the oceanful. > With best regards, > Bruce Aronow ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 20:49:42 +0100 From: "StephenToogood" Subject: Re: Joni's Autobiography No, but I'll be there to buy the first copy! I remember reading that angry interview a few months a go and her saying something along the lines of "I'd love to spill the beans'. Interesting! Maybe Joni wants to spill the beans once she's released another album! Steve NP: The Sire Of Sorrow (TLOG) - Joni - ----- Original Message ----- From: "anon anon" To: Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2003 9:32 PM Subject: Joni's Autobiography > Does anyone know if Joni has written her autobiography yet?and,when it > will be published?I know she has talked about it for a long time. > > thanks, > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN 8: Get 6 months for $9.95/month http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 21:53:45 +0200 From: "ron" Subject: RE South African Music Sampler hi >>>>>bob wrote > NP: Landscape Prayers, "Topper Seven" (Hey Ron, this SA sampler is a rockin' good time!! Thanks so much for the effort.) i was planning to bring a whole bunch but ran out of time on the copying. if anyone out there is curious & would like a copy - just email me your address & ill drop a set in the post ....... ron np - jerry douglas, russ barenburg & edgar meyer - the travels of mr hulot - hey - these guys are nearly good enough for a slot in the poolroom :-) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 15:56:06 -0400 From: Subject: A Case of Carolina (SJC) Hi everyone! Let me (re)introduce myself. I am Joseph Palis. I used to end my message with Joseph in Manila, now I am in North Carolina latitudinally above Bob's SC dwelling place. My trip to the US from Manila via Tokyo can be another story similar to Stephen Frears' _Dirty Pretty Things_ (beautiful film, by the way... go watch it! please!), but I am reserving that story some other time. NC is great and UNC-Chapel Hill is even more wonderful -- huge campus, woodlands, and except for Starbucks and Gap, no big stores that remind you of how corporate the world has become now. Its hard to ascertain where the campus ends and where downtown begins. I am officially 7 days old in NC (spent two days each in LA and NY upon arrival) and although the humidity is quite similar to Manila, the hilly terrain between my apartment and the campus can off-put someone not used to walking. And although I have been here in Carolina a week, it was only 2 days ago when I got my school email. Early this morning, I went for a walk and wanted some home-grown coffee but the only one that's open before 7am is Starbucks, so I reluctantly went inside and bought me a hot chocolate. And Joni is singing "A Case of You" (_Blue_ version) and it was a great feeling. Its like seeing an old friend in a land that is so un-Asian. And yes, I know virtual communities like JMDL exist in the mind, but the happy memories I had for the past years as a JMDL member sort of made me feel at home right away in NC. And although grad school will probably kill my social life beginning this week as tons of reading are wiaitng to be read, my biggest dream is to attend a JoniFest. And see all of you, particularly Bob M., Vince, Kate B. and Sherrelle. Joseph in Chapel Hill PS. The first CD I bought in the US is Joni's DJRD in LA. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 18:11:11 -0400 From: Jupydoo@aol.com Subject: Re: New Joni DVD > Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 18:24:58 +0100 > From: "Adam Mulvey" > Subject: New Joni DVD > > Has anyone seen the new 'Woman of Heart and Mind' DVD? It looks really > good - there's a fantastic review in Word magazine this > month. > > Adam Actually, I saw this film on PBS in march or so and loved it, so I went on Ebay and bought it for 15 bucks. I'd recommend it, thought not if you are REALLY nitpicky with Joni history. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 01:07:32 +0200 From: Emi Subject: Re: question Hi, Steve! - ----- Original Message ----- From: "StephenToogood" To: "Joni List" Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 9:43 PM Subject: Re: Joni on Last Waltz + question > Does anyone have much of an insight to what 'Passion Play' may be about? > There seems to be a slavery theme and a few religious lines plus something > about renewal in men but I'm a bit stuck on this one. > I'm so in love with it right now. I even appreciate the synth touches which > bothered me before. There really is a lot more instrumentation detail in > that song than I once thought. > > Steve Well, Passion Play (When all the slaves are free) is one of my favourite songs! I asked in list about that Exxon Blue in april: There were many kind answers, but the most interesant (or, at least, extended) were from Mark , Hell, and even Theodore (Sun, 13 Apr 2003). I send you privately the contributions listed above Have a Wonderful time! Emiliano ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 20:18:56 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: staring a hole >I used Mitchell's rendition of "You've Changed" as a premise and >sound >track. Thanks for sharing it, Cul...it reminded me of the photographs of Matt Mahurin, which I always find interesting, crossed with the Joni "Indian Blanket" photos from the CMIARS photo sessions. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 21:18:22 -0400 From: "anon anon" Subject: mystical happenings I loved reading the artcle "The education of Joni Mitchell".I really related to the section where she said,she'll read certain books,and certain things in the book will just strike her in a deep,intuitive way,and she'll stop reading the book and go onto another book.and the same thing will happen,and she'll draw a connection between the insights in all the books she's read(without finishing the books...)The same things has happened to me.Certain things I read will lead to insights and I can connect it to other insights(whether from a book or not.and again,I only have to read certain sections.I don't have to finish the book.)I also strongly relate to Joni's ideas about synchronicity,in her early 780's interview.I literally can't count the number of times that I'll be thinking about a person,place,song ect..and at that very minute I'll turn on the tv,the radio,or look at a newspaper or the internet and see the person I was thinking about or hear the very song I was thinking about.If this happened once or twice I would dismiss it as coincidence,but this has literally happened MANY times...there must be more to it... _________________________________________________________________ Enter for your chance to IM with Bon Jovi, Seal, Bow Wow, or Mary J Blige using MSN Messenger http://entertainment.msn.com/imastar ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 21:34:46 -0400 From: Deb Messling Subject: Re: New Joni DVD You've only watched it four times? You *should* be embarassed! At 11:42 AM 8/27/2003 -0700, you wrote: >It's to die for my dear! Go buy it right now! You will not be sorry! >I'm embarassed (among non-jmdl'rs) to say I've already watched it start >to finish 4 times!!! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Deb Messling -^..^- messling@enter.net - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 21:19:15 -0700 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: A Case of Carolina (SJC) Joseph!!! So good to hear from you again and on a closer shore. Welcome back and hope to hear much more from you. Hope the new digs suit you well. Best Paz > Hi everyone! > > Let me (re)introduce myself. I am Joseph Palis. I used to end my > message with Joseph in Manila, now I am in North Carolina latitudinally > above Bob's SC dwelling place. My trip to the US from Manila via Tokyo > can be another story similar to Stephen Frears' _Dirty Pretty Things_ > (beautiful film, by the way... go watch it! please!), but I am > reserving that story some other time. > > NC is great and UNC-Chapel Hill is even more wonderful -- huge campus, > woodlands, and except for Starbucks and Gap, no big stores that remind > you of how corporate the world has become now. Its hard to ascertain > where the campus ends and where downtown begins. > > I am officially 7 days old in NC (spent two days each in LA and NY upon > arrival) and although the humidity is quite similar to Manila, the > hilly terrain between my apartment and the campus can off-put someone > not used to walking. > > And although I have been here in Carolina a week, it was only 2 days > ago when I got my school email. Early this morning, I went for a walk > and wanted some home-grown coffee but the only one that's open before > 7am is Starbucks, so I reluctantly went inside and bought me a hot > chocolate. And Joni is singing "A Case of You" (_Blue_ version) and it > was a great feeling. Its like seeing an old friend in a land that is so > un-Asian. And yes, I know virtual communities like JMDL exist in the > mind, but the happy memories I had for the past years as a JMDL member > sort of made me feel at home right away in NC. > > And although grad school will probably kill my social life beginning > this week as tons of reading are wiaitng to be read, my biggest dream > is to attend a JoniFest. And see all of you, particularly Bob M., > Vince, Kate B. and Sherrelle. > > Joseph in Chapel Hill > > PS. The first CD I bought in the US is Joni's DJRD in LA. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 23:04:47 EDT From: Aerchak@aol.com Subject: Re: Warren Zevon on VH1 SJC I enjoyed the show on Warren also. There are some songs by him that just break my heart and cut me to the core. Always thought he would die of a drug related incident, as it is my understanding, he had major problems with cocaine. I frequently wonder if we will get the news one day that joni has lung cancer. Andrea ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 15:54:29 +1200 From: hell@ihug.co.nz Subject: Re: Joni & Sports Bob wrote: > (Thanks to Hell for the offlist inspiration for > this one): You're welcome! I meant to respond to this sooner, but silly things like work and sleep got in the way! > Joni is obviously surrounded by sports, living in > LA where many celebrities are seen at Lakers games > and etc. I wonder if she casts a negative eye on > sports/competition in general? Maybe it comes from > her suffering from polio and not being able to > compete athletically at that point in her life? I wouldn't say she's surrounded by sports - certainly it's prevalent in LA, but (and I may be wrong here) her immediate circle of friends seem to be more associated with the arts, so sports wouldn't necessarily be the prime topic of conversation! Even the men she's been involved with over her life, have all been more artistically-inclined than interested in sports. Obviously these are just my impressions and opinions, but I don't think Joni has made a conscious decision to "ignore" sport in her writing, I just get the feeling that she hasn't really been exposed to it very much - either as an adult, or during her childhood. Obviously polio could have played a big part in that, though. She does mention gambling (which could include horse racing), playing pool and car racing (Lead Foot Melvin!) so I think she's into more of the "social" sports, than the really serious, competitive ones! Hell ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 20:57:50 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Re: Guitarists >I'm no expert but do any of you guys think that Janis Ian should have made that list?< yes, she is a wonderful guitarist...i imagine that the list is heavily weighed not only on the male side but on the electric guitar side...did any men who play acoustic make the list? did richie havens? did any classical or flamenco guitarists? ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 02:27:32 -0400 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today in History: August 28 1969: Joni opens for Crosby, Stills, Nash, and Young at the Greek Theater in Los Angeles. More info: http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=153 1974: Joni performed at the Nassau Coliseum in Uniondale, New York 1979: Joni performed at Robin Hood Dell West in Philadelphia. More info: http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=887 http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=886 http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=868 1986: Joni joined other musicians such as Neil Young and Warren Zevon in a "Get Tough On Toxics" concert at Long Beach Arena. The show was a benefit for two propositions on the ballot that fall: Prop 65, which was an anti-toxic waste initiative, and Prop U, which was an attempt to control building development in the city of L.A. Joni played with a full band and performed a half dozen songs including "Cool Water," and a still wordless version of "Lakota." More info: http://www.jonimitchell.com/Experimental.html - ---- For a comprehensive reference to Joni's appearances, consult Joni Mitchell ~ A Chronology of Appearances: http://www.jonimitchell.com/appearances.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 02:27:32 -0400 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Library Links: August 28 On August 28 the following articles were published: 1979: "Joni Has Come A Long Way" - New York Daily News (Review - Concert) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=897 1979: "Joni Mitchell proves she can sing jazz" - Providence Journal (Review - Concert) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=864 1979: "Pop Idols" - Montreal Star (Biography) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=856 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 14:24:51 +1000 From: ash Subject: Jane who? More from Tasmania (near Australia) Yesterday, while shopping in the mall with the wife, I went into the local record shop (Sound Waves ) and asked the shop assistant at the counter.... "Hello have you got any Joni Mitchell stuff?...I could not see any"...... and yes the background music was loud in the small shop and it was crowded with about 10 people "Jane who? " was the reply..the shop assistant was 30+ in semi modern clothing "Joni Mitchell.....the singer?", I again asked "Jane who??" she, the shop assistant again said..(very Monty Python) "J-O-N-I........Joni.......JOE...KNEE" "Joan Osborne?" was the reply "Joni Mitchell..she sang Big Yellow Taxi?" "What?"......(Monty Python..is this a cheese/record shop?) I asked "could you please check on your computer?"..... the computer took about 90 seconds to find Jean Mitchell !! and then Jane Mitchell ! then another 60 seconds to find Joni !! I was given the print out and told that 'speacial' records or 'imports' would cost a lot and postage from 'overseas' on the main land (i.e. Australia)..would also cost a lot and take 6 weeks to get here!!.......as there was not a lot of people asking for this 'special's stuff...I felt I was asking for porn! I actually felt trapped i.e. cut off from Man/music kind...was I in a Michael J Fox film...back to past?. Had they heard of the Beatles?..would they ban Elvis and the Rolling Stones?...jeez they were in for it, when they heard of Sex Pistols!! I now realise how lucky I was or had been in living in major cities..... My wife who was waiting outside the 'music' shop, asked why I looked so red in the face? and next-door at the supermarket..they were actually playing the other 'Big Yellow Taxi' over the loudspeakers!!.....so I dashed again into the music shop, with the intention of kidnapping the shop assistant.....and taking her out of the shop to hear...I shouldered my way to the counter thru customers being served and shouted...... "turn the music down and listen next-door!!!"..... the woman saw this mad man and did so......only to hear...... the supermarket loudspeaker...asking for a price check on an item.......and the last bars of music of 'Big Yellow Taxi"........ Everyone in the shop looked at me...as I retreated slowly backward...with the wife saying "your an embarrassment, I can't take you any where!" but worse...everyday I now have to pass the music shop on the way to work! but to be fair.....we are a rural community (10,000 people...5,000 in town) and Country (with out the..Western) is huge .....as is Yodelling!!!!!!!...so yep Jane..ooops Joni is 'Special's......so back to Ebay!!! yeeee haaa!! and I not even a die hard fan like you lot!!!!! Ash oh yes.....thank you for all those that keep mentioning...Heart, Yes, Springsteen, Pink Floyd etc. My Joni moment........Isle of Wight Festival 1970 video......Joni..'talking' to the crowd...that part always raises the (grey/gray) hair on the back of my neck. ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2003 #270 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)