From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2003 #265 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Saturday, August 23 2003 Volume 2003 : Number 265 Sign up now for JoniFest 2003! http://www.jonifest.com ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: chord changes ["Kate Bennett" ] Shadows and Light (the book) [Deb Messling ] And another thing on Shadows and Light [Deb Messling ] David Sanborn - Man From Mars [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Shelly vs Nanette ["Jeffrey R Guss" ] Re: "help me" in starbucks ["mack watson-bush" ] Re: That "institution" [Catherine McKay ] CHANGE IN DATE for Joni Open Mike in Ithaca, NY [Susan McNamara ] Re: That "institution" [tantra-apso ] Re: The Magdalene Sisters [steph@cix.co.uk (Anita Gabrielle Tedder)] Joni mention on NPR's "Day to Day" program [Deb Messling ] Magdalene Laundries ["Marianne Rizzo" ] new BYT cover out there [vince ] Today in History: August 23 [ljirvin@jmdl.com] Today's Library Links: August 23 [ljirvin@jmdl.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 00:36:51 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Re: chord changes bob: >#1 Joni chord change - those first 2 chords in Hejira!< i love those 2 chords & amazing syncro as i was just fooling around with playing that song today...those 2 chords only appear in that part of the song & all other chords in hejira pale in comparison to them...as a songwriter & guitar player learning this song...i wish she'd used them more in the song...i want to play them more...i know, heresy... ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 07:05:56 -0400 From: Deb Messling Subject: Shadows and Light (the book) Has anyone read the newer edition of Karen O'Brien's book? It was supposed to have additional material. What is the new stuff? Is there enough there to warrant a purchase? - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Deb Messling -^..^- messling@enter.net - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 07:15:54 -0400 From: Deb Messling Subject: And another thing on Shadows and Light I'm surprised that Amazon has no customer reviews of this book. I'm not going to write one because my review would be lukewarm. Here's a link to the Amazon page (thanks Colin for telling us about this Tiny URL site). http://tinyurl.com/ktrf - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Deb Messling -^..^- messling@enter.net - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Deb Messling -^..^- messling@enter.net - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 07:38:07 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: David Sanborn - Man From Mars >A good cover year for Joni. Boy, I'd be pressed to say that Joni's ever had a BAD cover year! ;~) This Sanborn recording is pretty good and will be included on Volume #46 of our never-ending "Covers" series...but next up will be #44, as well as some other Joni goodies that you can snag, so don't touch that dial. Bob NP: Melissa Errico, "Night Ride Home" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 08:33:48 -0400 From: "Jeffrey R Guss" Subject: Shelly vs Nanette Nanette Fabray Joyful Humanitarian - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- As a mother and homemaker, a hard working humanitarian, or a knowledgeable individual testifying before Congressional committees for the rights of handicapped persons, comedienne, singer and dancer, Nanette Fabray has been honored many times by her peers and by the public. Nanette Fabray was herself handicapped for most of her adult life by a hearing problem, until four operations restored her hearing. She has been in the forefront of the rights of all disabled people. Her many official, private and governmental memberships and appointments, including being a Trustee of the House Ear Institute, note Miss Fabray as an international leader for the handicapped. Shelley Fabares Biographical Information Shelley Fabares Birthday: January 19, 1944 Birth Place: Santa Monica, CA Birth Name: Michele Ann Marie Fabares Notes She did an interview with Vicki Lawrence when she guest starred in the syndicated show "Vicki" She is married to actor Mike Farrell She co-starred in the movie "Ride The Wild Surf" for Columbia Pictures She sang the song "Johnny Angel" and had a record of the song when she was in "The Donna Reed Show." Incidentally, the song went to #1 for two weeks and was knocked out of first place by future co-star Elvis's "Good Luck Charm" She co starred with Elvis Presley in 3 movies: Girl Happy (1965), Spinout (1966), and Clambake (1967). More than any other leading lady in an Elvis movie She is the niece of Nanette Fabray ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 07:39:07 -0500 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: Re: "help me" in starbucks This got me to thinking for I haven't really cared for the Nelson tune either but as I compared the lyrics, inside my head, of the two tunes mentioned here, the Nelson tune held up very well and even surpassed those to the Mitchell tune. Just my take. mack > SIQUOMB, isn't she? > > I heard "Help Me" in the local Starbucks tonight -- or should I say *one* of > the local Starbucks -- and it sounded fresh as a proverbial daisy. It played > right after "You Were Always on My Mind" by Willie Nelson, during which I was > dry-heaving. I was thinking about how odd it was that a song I once liked okay > sounded so unbearably sappy and then, as if to illustrate Joni's superiority, > God made "HM" the next song. > > --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 10:42:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: That "institution" --- Murphycopy@aol.com wrote: > Catherine writes: > > << (Did Joni really say "love sucks", > by the way? In what song?) >> > > Yes, she did. I am sure someone will jump in with > the song, although I am > cheating a bit. > You bum! Are you referring to the line "... until love sucks me back that way?" Not exactly the same thing as "Love sucks", is it? btw, apparently this is no longer njc - how strange - it usually goes the other way. ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 10:45:18 -0400 From: Susan McNamara Subject: CHANGE IN DATE for Joni Open Mike in Ithaca, NY Thought I would alert you that there has been a change in the date of the Ithaca, NY Joni Open Mike hosted by Patti Witten: Thursday, October 2 Hosting the ONLY JONI OPEN MIC @ Juna's Cafe , 8-11PM, Ithaca NY. Sign up @ 7:15PM to play a Joni Mitchell song. $3 cover. go to www.pattiwitten.com for other gig info on patti. I'll be there with a crazy B tuning set. take care, sue - -- "Heart and humor and humility will lighten up your heavy load ... " - Joni Mitchell ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 10:59:18 EDT From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: That "institution" Catherine writes: << You bum! Are you referring to the line "... until love sucks me back that way?" >> Yes! (Evil laugh) << Not exactly the same thing as "Love sucks", is it? >> No, but she said it! Have a great weekend, everybody. --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 08:35:11 -0700 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: And another thing on Shadows and Light Deb Messling wrote: > I'm surprised that Amazon has no customer reviews of this book. I'm > not going to write one because my review would be lukewarm. > > Here's a link to the Amazon page (thanks Colin for telling us about > this Tiny URL site). > > http://tinyurl.com/ktrf > - ---- I'm sure this has been discussed before so I apologize in advance, but does anyone have anything to say about the 'Joni Mitchell Anthology' song book that Amazon is pushing with Shadows and Light at this URL? I recently acquired a Yamaha keyboard and am looking around for piano sheet music. I never had a piano growing up but always wanted one. So I am pretty much a beginner. I read music and I know where the notes are on the keyboard but never having been able to practice regularly, I struggle getting through very simple stuff. Does this book have haflway decent arrangements that you don't have to be Roberto Holliston to be able to struggle through? Mark E. in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 11:47:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: That "institution" --- Murphycopy@aol.com wrote: > Catherine writes: > > << You bum! Are you referring to the line "... until > love > sucks me back that way?" >> > > Yes! (Evil laugh) > > << Not exactly the same thing as > "Love sucks", is it? >> > > No, but she said it! Talk about being quoted out of context - are you a political writer by trade, by any chance? :] ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 18:17:32 +0100 From: tantra-apso Subject: Re: That "institution" Murphycopy@aol.com wrote: > >Have a great weekend, everybody. > > --Bob > > > do you get weekend home leave, Bob? - -- bw colin http://www.btinternet.com/~tantraapso/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 22:15 +0100 (BST) From: steph@cix.co.uk (Anita Gabrielle Tedder) Subject: Re: The Magdalene Sisters "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: The Magdalene Sisters Mark wrote: It's hard for me to comprehend the whole system and way of thinking that produced these hell-holes. There is so much that is screwed up about it and where do you lay the blame for it? With the Catholic Church? The Irish government? The families of these poor unfortunate women? The local church officials? Melanie has lived in Ireland and she says it's all of the above and more. One thing that struck me was that, like most of recorded history, it was the women who were victimised; the women who were accused; the women who were sullied and had to be 'cleansed'. It seems to me that when a woman gets pregnant or is raped or is considered sexually provocative that there is a man or men involved in these particular 'sins' as well. Where were the work houses for the men who conceived those children or committed the rape or lusted after some poor girl who had the bad fortune to be born with physical attributes that made her sexually desirable?" Mark - There were industrial schools run by Christian brothers and others who abused and tortured boys/young men in their care, as well as girls - though not (as far as I am aware) for fathering children. At present in Ireland, the Laffoy Commission is a statutory enquiry into child abuse ( www.childabusecommission.ie ) and the Residential Institutions Redress Board is starting to award compensation for those who suffered in the 'care' of many of these institutions( www.rirb.ie ).Those of us working with survivors know the immense damage caused and the continuing anguish of those awaiting their hearings. The Joni content of this email is that I am witness to the power of the Magdalene Laundries not just a song but as a poem. I printed it off the JMDL site and passed it on. I know that it now sits on the fridge door of a 70 year male survivor whom I have had the honour and privilege of knowing. Love Anita ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 17:20:34 -0400 From: Deb Messling Subject: Joni mention on NPR's "Day to Day" program I heard the tail end of a review of The Magdalene Sisters today, and the program host acknowledged that Joni's song was what brought this issue to the attention of most Americans. The program closed with a snippet of the Joni/Chieftains version of the song. - ---------------------------------I ------------------------------------- Deb Messling -^..^- messling@enter.net - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 23:13:11 +0100 From: tantra-apso Subject: Re: The Magdalene Sisters Anita Gabrielle Tedder wrote: >Those of us working >with survivors know the immense damage caused and the continuing anguish >of those awaiting their hearings. > It is good to have these hearings and make people answerable. It makes the far larger number of us who suffered the same but in the institute of the family, feel there is some justice that rubs off on us, that our story is at least partly heard. - -- bw colin http://www.btinternet.com/~tantraapso/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 20:15:23 -0400 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: Magdalene Laundries Les I was so very moved by your singing of the Magadalene Laundries. I feel I can not express it in words. BTW..how many people asked you on a date that weekend? DO tell? Because you are incredibly cute. Lucy your story, as well, is so very touching. Before Joni's song I knew nothing about any of this. I'm cherishing the three of you for bringing this closer to my heart. Marianne _________________________________________________________________ Enter for your chance to IM with Bon Jovi, Seal, Bow Wow, or Mary J Blige using MSN Messenger http://www.msnmessenger-download.com/imastar ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 01:39:27 -0400 From: vince Subject: new BYT cover out there coming back with Gage after seeing the Pirates movies again (that movie is so much fun - Johnny Depp, what a performance!) and listening to some northern Michigan radio station in the jeep and heard a brand new version of BYT by some guy - kind of a fun version, not bad, a little dancing angst cover - tried to find a play list on the station's web site but no such luck so no idea who did it but I am sure it is a new version because I never heard it before and the song they played next was from 1997 and this station always rotates a new with an old so... best info I can give anyone. Sorry Bob I can't do better. Vince today's favorite quote from the Pirates movie: Captain Jack Sparrow: "We've reached a special place... Spiritually... ecumenically... grammatically." ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 02:00:05 -0400 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today in History: August 23 1979: Joni performed at the Merriwether Post Pavillion in Columbia, Maryland. - ---- For a comprehensive reference to Joni's appearances, consult Joni Mitchell ~ A Chronology of Appearances: http://www.jonimitchell.com/appearances.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 02:00:05 -0400 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Library Links: August 23 On August 23 the following article was published: 1979: "That unpredictable Joni Mitchell isn't fooling around now" - Washington Star (Review - Concert) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=850 ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2003 #265 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? 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