From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2003 #261 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Tuesday, August 19 2003 Volume 2003 : Number 261 Sign up now for JoniFest 2003! http://www.jonifest.com ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Beat of Black Wings [steph@cix.co.uk (Anita Gabrielle Tedder)] Joni-ish day [AzeemAK@aol.com] More to come... ["Donna Binkley" ] Re: Joni-ish day [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Come in from the cold ["Larry D." ] Re:Chuck E's performance ["Bree Mcdonough" ] Joni the wildflower [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Joni the wildflower [Catherine McKay ] Re: Joni the wildflower [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Beat of Black Wings ["Stephen Toogood" ] Re: Beat of Black Wings [AzeemAK@aol.com] Re: I'll be seeing you ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: Joni the wildflower [Chris Marshall ] Re: Joni the wildflower [Catherine McKay ] Re: Beat of Black Wings ["Suze Cameron" ] Re: Joni the wildflower [Catherine McKay ] RE: Come In From the Cold ["patrick leader" ] two fest memories with joni content ["patrick leader" ] joni&james permavine ["Rache A" ] RE: Beat of Black Wings ["Wally Kairuz" ] Re: Beat of Black Wings [Michael Paz ] Today in History: August 19 [ljirvin@jmdl.com] Today's Library Links: August 19 [ljirvin@jmdl.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 11:00 +0100 (BST) From: steph@cix.co.uk (Anita Gabrielle Tedder) Subject: Re: Beat of Black Wings Hi dear friends. A mate of mine (Simon) has emailed me with this query and I wondered if any of you guys out there had any views about this? "Anita, I went to check something that has been bugging me ever since I bought the Chalk Man In A Rain Storm cassette. I think The Beat Of Black Wings is one of the most marvellous songs Joni has ever written but I could never understand the refrain that is repeated 3 times after each verse (after the words Beat of Black Wings). But there is no refrain printed Please put me out of my misery and let me know what they are, it sounds like "Charlie and Joe", but I'm sure it isn't." I think that I recall that it's deliberately obscure but would welcome any other knowledge. Lots of love Anita PS Michael Re: I'll be seeing you - you know you can touch it any time. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 09:44:06 EDT From: AzeemAK@aol.com Subject: Joni-ish day I've been working my way through the snaps from the fest, imagining myself there as best I could. Such evocative images, Anyway, after heading off to the kitchen to get lunch, I turn on Radio 4, and The Archers is just starting (ancient radio soap opera which I find irredeemably corny), so switch to BBC London, more in hope than expectation, as it's the scrag end of what used to be a truly wonderful station, GLR (Greater London Radio). And what's the first record played out of the news? Only the greatest song from the greatest album ever made, that's what!! Hearing Hejira on the radio doesn't happen very often, and in amongst the rather bland (at best) fare you generally hear on that station, and it sounded like music from another planet. So complex, emotionally and musically, so downright *other*. I tried to put myself in the shoes of someone who'd never heard it before, what on earth would I make of this extraordinary record. It's like suddenly switching from Kindergarten to a PhD, or from Lite Beer to 70% proof Schnapps. I like to think that one person would have been listening and thought "Christ, what is this?? And where's my pen and paper so I can scribble down the name and go out and get it forthwith." We can but hope... Azeem in London NP: The Sundays - Reading, Writing & Arithmetic (Ah, Harriet Wheeler's voice, was there ever a sunnier instrument?) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 09:42:38 -0500 From: "Donna Binkley" Subject: More to come... Jonibob "Bobificaton" Muller wrote: We are a photogenic bunch. Texas Tush responded, that we are my bud! see attached This message has been scanned by the E250. [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of 021_21.JPG] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 11:20:21 -0400 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni-ish day In a message dated 8/18/2003 9:44:06 AM Eastern Daylight Time, AzeemAK writes: > Hearing Hejira on the radio doesn't happen very often, and in amongst the > rather bland (at best) fare you generally hear on that > station, and it sounded > like music from another planet. I know what you mean, Azeem...I don't know as I've EVER heard it on the radio per se, but I did catch it about 3 weeks ago when I was dining with friends, he was playing one of the digital music channels that you get with cable, and it's running through the expected pop stuff from Bonnie, Jackson, et al, when what to my wondering ears appeared but Hejira! It made me stop dead in the midst of my conversation. And to add a cherry to the dessert, they played "Coyote" about an hour later! Makes me feel like I'm not quite so nutty for adoring this record. Bob NP: Van Halen, "I'll Wait" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 08:24:33 -0700 (PDT) From: "Larry D." Subject: Re: Come in from the cold Mark E., I am a relatively recent (and rather sporadic) contributor to this group, so I hope I do not overstep my place when I say that having read your below posting, I wish nothing so much as to be able to gather you up into my arms and hold you. You break my heart. Wishing you more certain times. Larry D. NP: Love Over and Over, Kate and Anna McGarrigle > Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 11:59:32 -0700 > From: "Mark or Travis" > Subject: Come In From the Cold > > I've been reading the Jonifest accounts and looking > at the > pictures....some familiar faces, more and more that > I don't know. > > It's been an odd summer for me. Travis was sick for > several months > and the company I work for has been bought out by > DHL. Travis is > better and back to work but times are still > uncertain. > > I've felt disconnected from the list lately. For > awhile Jonifest only > magnified these feelings. I'm afraid I've been a > bit on the childish > side. But I don't want to make value judgments in a > self-important > voice anymore. I wish there were some way for me to > avoid such > foolish emotions. > > All I ever wanted was to come in from the cold. May > I? > > Mark E. in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 13:13:33 -0400 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re:Chuck E's performance Hi Kenny and all. It was so great meeting you!! I had written part 2 of fest report yesterday and I mentioned about you sharing Joe Jackson with Leive..Lane..moi at Steve's and Jeff's. This was a highlight...but darn, this elderly pateint/client of mine slammed down my laptop lid and I lost it all. I was so PO!! Next time we will have to talk about Todd more. I loved your story about talking to him on the phone... Yes..I too love RNH...I'm so glad Chuck E relented. Love... Bree >Chuck E's dulcimer workshop.. an erudite man with a big heart. (because >of >this ..I'm going to try my hand at playing the dulcimer) And thank you >Chuck for Rainy Night House...it was beautiful!! > > Bree, I also enjoyed Chuck's performance on Rainy Night House so much >that I've been humming it and hearing it in my head ever since last >weekend. >Today, as I was getting our yard ready for some company to come over and I >put >the CD player outside, I had to put on LOTC and immediately put on THAT >song. I >was transported back to the fest... a place I wish I didn't have to leave. > > Kenny B _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 13:39:39 -0400 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Joni the wildflower For the past couple of months, I've been playing this game with my 2 sisters...my older sister has a Stephen King passion and my younger has a passion for all things Disney. They're planning a trip to Disney World in November, and every day my younger sister throws out a quote or a piece of Disney trivia or some such. My response has been to take the quote/trivia and make a Joni connection, and my older sister makes a King connection. We've had a lot of fun with it. Anyway, today she threw out a quote from Bambi which had to do with "Flower" (the skunk). Jan then mentioned a King short story called "The Man Who Loved Flowers" about a serial killer, and I mentioned Joni's use of flowers in her work, from her cover art to her lyrics, and one that really stood out to me was this one from Song For Sharon: The power of reason And the flowers of deep feeling Seem to serve me Only to deceive me A great lyric on a couple of different levels, the rhyme coming in the middle of the phrase as opposed to the end. How like Joni! I mean, if you're going to use unconventional instrument tunings, why not use unconventional lyric patterns as well? Plus, that whole phrase "the flowers of deep feeling"...I think she's referring to a bridal bouquet here, but if anyone has any other thoughts, I'd love to hear them. Also, on a tangentially related note, I've finally found a vocal cover of "Song For Sharon", and was delighted to have a conversation with the performer and found out that she lists Hejira as her #1 record of all time! A wildflower wavin' for ya, Bob NP: Sarah Vaughan, "April In Paris" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 14:39:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Joni the wildflower --- SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: > I mentioned Joni's use of flowers in her work, from > her cover art > to her lyrics, and one that really stood out to me > was this one > from Song For Sharon: > > The power of reason > And the flowers of deep feeling > Seem to serve me > Only to deceive me > > A great lyric on a couple of different levels, the > rhyme coming > in the middle of the phrase as opposed to the end. > How like Joni! > I mean, if you're going to use unconventional > instrument tunings, > why not use unconventional lyric patterns as well? > Plus, that whole > phrase "the flowers of deep feeling"...I think she's > referring > to a bridal bouquet here, but if anyone has any > other thoughts, > I'd love to hear them. Bob, that sounds like a fun game. It's great that you can share this kind of stuff with your sibs and that all of you have these passions, but also *get* one another's and care enough to bother about this. Here's a few thoughts from me on this: Deep feeling is something that blossoms forth over time (as opposed to superficiality, which is either nipped in the bud, or when it's beautiful and in flower, is plucked, enjoyed and tossed aside - and it dies without having borne any fruit.) Flowers have roots in soil. Deep feelings have roots in the soul. Flowers aren't just pretty things that grow in your garden. If you take a closer look at them, they're a universe unto themselves. I took some photographs of these pink hollyhocks in my backyard a month or so ago. It was a fine sunny day and these things stood out, well, like a ruby in a black man's ear. You woulnd't believe how friggin' profound and SEXY those flowers looked - even now, if I look at these photos, it takes my breath away. As well, flowers that are so beautiful when they're young and new, go on to develop fruit and seeds, which ensures that life will be continued even when the bloom is off the rose - so the future is secured and life goes on. The same thing happens with a good relationship (a good marriage in this case, or the perception of what is a good marriage, in keeping with "Sharon's" theme) - - the bridal flowers representing the "deep feelings" the bride and groom have (or should have) for one another. (There's also a lot of symbolism associated with flowers and what each kind means, if you remember Ophelia's ramblings about this in Hamlet.) Joni recognizes that she always seems to get sidetracked or lost along the way and these deep feelings deceive her (maybe she's trying too hard, or maybe the feelings she thought were deep really weren't so deep after all? maybe it's the longing that's deep, like the idea of being in love, as opposed to really being in love? what the hell am I talking about?) She's stuck with the image of the bride and the ceremony. She has this longing for one of those beautiful white weddings and all they symbolize but she can't quite get with the program - "the ceremony of the bells and lace still veils this reckless fool here." Anyway, that's enough from me about that. I must get outdoors and enjoy the fine weather - we got a day off work, because the powers that be decided we shouldn't be using any power at work. There's nothing like an unexpected day off work, where they pay you to stay at home and enjoy the day (so why am I here at this 'puter?) ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 15:09:34 -0400 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni the wildflower In a message dated 8/18/2003 2:39:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, anima_rising@yahoo.ca writes: > She has this longing for one > of those beautiful white weddings and all they > symbolize but she can't quite get with the program - > "the ceremony of the bells and lace still veils this > reckless fool here." And she sort of continues the thought with that "other" reckless song, no? The eagle and the serpent are at war in me The serpent fighting for blind desire The eagle for clarity Musically, DJRD (the song) is cousin to Coyote, but I think lyrically it's more related to Song For Sharon. It IS clear that she wrote all three at pretty much the same time as she performed Coyote & DJRD as a medley in 1976 before she released Hejira. Bob NP: Stevie Ray Vaughan, "Honey Bee" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 21:53:50 +0100 From: "Stephen Toogood" Subject: Re: Beat of Black Wings I always thought it was "Charlie Angel" but have never been quite sure. I think it is one of the strongest songs on CMIARS but that line doesn't seem to fit in lime with the rest of the song, at least not for me. Steve T P.S. Mark E - "Come in, come in, come in..." :) - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anita Gabrielle Tedder" To: Cc: Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:00 AM Subject: Re: Beat of Black Wings > Hi dear friends. A mate of mine (Simon) has emailed me with this query and > I wondered if any of you guys out there had any views about this? > > "Anita, I went to check something that has been bugging me ever since I > bought the Chalk Man In A Rain Storm cassette. I think The Beat Of Black > Wings is one of the most marvellous songs Joni has ever written but I > could never understand the refrain that is repeated 3 times after each > verse (after the words Beat of Black Wings). But there is no refrain > printed Please put me out of my misery and let me know what they are, it > sounds like "Charlie and Joe", but I'm sure it isn't." > I think that I recall that it's deliberately obscure but would welcome any > other knowledge. > Lots of love > Anita > PS Michael Re: I'll be seeing you - you know you can touch it any time. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 17:37:47 EDT From: AzeemAK@aol.com Subject: Re: Beat of Black Wings In a message dated 18/08/2003 21:55:28 GMT Daylight Time, steve@hatstand.org writes: > I always thought it was "Charlie Angel" but have never been quite sure. > I think it is one of the strongest songs on CMIARS but that line doesn't > seem to fit in lime with the rest of the song, at least not for me. > > I always thought this was "Johnny Angel", a reference to the old song - don't know who first did it, but I remember the Carpenters' version. I thought it was an ironic counterpoint to such a grim song, a reminiscence of a soppy and sentimental love song, which includes a line about "Together we will see how lovely heaven can be." Clever stuff! I agree that it's a strong song, the best on the album, along with My Secret Place. I have to say I don't have the indulgence some have towards Dancing Clown - I think it's utter rubbish! Azeem in London ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 14:53:22 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Re: I'll be seeing you heather, good luck with your new career...i will miss your good humor here & i hope you will soon return to the jmdl when you get your new life established! kate www.katebennett.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 23:23:56 +0100 From: Chris Marshall Subject: Re: Joni the wildflower Catherine, for me, hit the nail on the head with regard to the blossoming of deep feelings. As such it gives the line much broader meaning that mere wedlock. (Mere, hah...) - --Chris Marshall chrisAThatstand.org (AIM: Chr15Marshall) "If you're ever lost, I'll beat the world to finding you" Stryngs, "Bobblehats and Beer" Band website, with downloads, at http://www.stryngs.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 19:17:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Joni the wildflower --- Chris Marshall wrote: > Catherine, for me, hit the nail on the head with > regard to the blossoming of deep feelings. As > such it gives the line much broader meaning > that mere wedlock. (Mere, hah...) > Accent on LOCK, of course (LOL!) I'm not sure who really said this, but I've heard it attributed to Cher, among others: "Marriage is a fine institution - but who wants to be in an institution?" ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 19:43:21 -0400 From: "Suze Cameron" Subject: Re: Beat of Black Wings Some answers have been:>> I always thought it was "Charlie Angel" but have never been quite sure. or: >I always thought this was "Johnny Angel", a reference to the old song I have always felt that it was Charlie and Joe, referencing the nicknames given the VC and Americans during the Vietnam war. Maybe I am wrong, but that was always my take. This was something I was going to ask Joni when I met her, but my jaw hung slack the whole time in her presence, and could never form the correct shapes for the words. Idiot! There was some talk on this line a while back on list, not sure if it is in Smoe archives or not, it may go back that far! Suze n.p. Stryngs ____________________________________________________________ Get advanced SPAM filtering on Webmail or POP Mail ... Get Lycos Mail! http://login.mail.lycos.com/r/referral?aid=27005 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 19:45:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Joni the wildflower --- SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 8/18/2003 2:39:29 PM Eastern > Daylight Time, > anima_rising@yahoo.ca writes: > > > She has this longing for one > > of those beautiful white weddings and all they > > symbolize but she can't quite get with the program > - > > "the ceremony of the bells and lace still veils > this > > reckless fool here." > > And she sort of continues the thought with that > "other" reckless > song, no? > > The eagle and the serpent are at war in me > The serpent fighting for blind desire > The eagle for clarity > > Musically, DJRD (the song) is cousin to Coyote, but > I think > lyrically it's more related to Song For Sharon. > It IS clear that she wrote all three at pretty much > the same time > as she performed Coyote & DJRD as a medley in 1976 > before she > released Hejira. Deinitely. It's a theme that runs through a lot of Joni's songs - her constant struggle between finding love that sticks around vs wanting her artistic freedom. Just a few examples (and you know..... there may be more!) - - We love our loving, but not like we love our freedom - - Just before our love got lost, you said, "I am as constant as the northern star." Constantly in the darkness! - - You are in my blood like holy wine - you taste so bitter... and so sweet - - Beware of the power of moons - - I can't go back there anymore... - - you know it's hard to tell when you're in the spell if it's wrong or if it's real. But you're bound to lose if you let the blues get you scared to feel - - It always seems so righteous at the start /When there's so much laughter /When there's so much spark / When there's so much sweetness in the dark - - Last chance lost/ We talk of love in terms of sacrifice and compromise ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 19:47:14 -0400 From: "patrick leader" Subject: RE: Come In From the Cold dear mark: your caring spirit seems so central to this community. when there's dissent, your calm voice is a tower of dignity. your thoughts on music (and everything else) are always beautiful, and i read every word you write. and you and travis opened your home to me just a couple of years ago. so i hope you can feel the good, warming, deeply felt thoughts i send your way... favorite recent mark e post: the loving comparison of the original and new versions of 'dawntreader'. earlier favorite mark e. moment: finally getting into rickie lee! much love, patrick np - stryngs >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]On Behalf Of Mark >or Travis >Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 3:00 PM >To: JMDL >Subject: Come In From the Cold > > >I've been reading the Jonifest accounts and looking at the >pictures....some familiar faces, more and more that I don't know. > >It's been an odd summer for me. Travis was sick for several months >and the company I work for has been bought out by DHL. Travis is >better and back to work but times are still uncertain. > >I've felt disconnected from the list lately. For awhile Jonifest only >magnified these feelings. I'm afraid I've been a bit on the childish >side. But I don't want to make value judgments in a self-important >voice anymore. I wish there were some way for me to avoid such >foolish emotions. > >All I ever wanted was to come in from the cold. May I? > >Mark E. in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 20:12:49 -0400 From: "patrick leader" Subject: two fest memories with joni content i'm never going to get a full report out, but i was thinking about two memories today, and wanted to share. there's a lot of singing along at any jonifest, and in the informal songcircles it's particularly welcome. playing around in the bar and in the dark on thursday, it was wonderful that giselle pulled out a couple of very familiar fleetwood mac songs, which we all knew. that led to kay and i figuring out the words to 'crystal', one of my favorite buckingham/nicks songs, and singing loud on the hike to the waterfall, the next morning. i've mixed feelings about singing along when people are doing their formal, full sound sets. so many of these people have really great voices, and terrific interpretations of joni songs, and i want to hear. one of the many charms of les ross is that he is so self-effacing that you think he might not realize just how good he is. but the restrained way he sings and plays just draws you in, and i wouldn't think i'd want to sing along or want anyone else singing along. however, when he played his set saturday night, his final song was a case of you, and on the choruses we quietly sang along, and he smiled, and all was right with the world. sunday saw an even more moving singalong. anita gabrielle had done a terrific, customized, audience participation version of 'woodstock' in the blackout hours of thursday, which i hoped might be reprised on sunday (and was). but earlier, she decided to play 'i think i understand'. she told us the album had been extremely important to her at a dark time in her life; she had not been able to listen to it for more than 20 years and had only recently taken it up again. she was clearly nervous and emotional, but she sang the song beautifully and simply. and on the chorus, voices very quietly chipped in... i think i understand fear is like a wilderland stepping stones or sinking sand a room full of people singing 'i think i understand' together. in this life we get glimpses of heaven. patrick np - stryngs - ivory white alibis (i am just obsessed with this song!) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 02:09:19 +0200 From: "Mauro Regis" Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2003 #405 Thanks Justin. I'll work soon on your requests. In the meanwhile, enjoy R.E.M. in Padova with the attached photos. Best wishes. Mauro Regis - ----- Original Message ----- From: "JMDL Digest" To: Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 9:00 AM Subject: JMDL Digest V2003 #405 > > JMDL Digest Saturday, August 16 2003 Volume 2003 : Number 405 > > > > Sign up now for JoniFest 2003! http://www.jonifest.com > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > -------- > Today in History: August 16 [ljirvin@jmdl.com] > Today's Library Links: August 16 [ljirvin@jmdl.com] > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 02:52:43 -0400 > From: ljirvin@jmdl.com > Subject: Today in History: August 16 > > 1969: Joni performed with Crosby, Stills, and Nash in Chicago. > > 1974: Joni performs at the Universal Amphitheater in Universal City, California. The recordings from these five dates ended up as the material for the Miles Of Aisles album, released 3 months later. > > 1979: Joni performed the first of two nights at Alpine Valley in East Troy, Wisconsin. Future JMDLer Steve Polifka was there: "It was a Thursday evening with NO RAIN in sight... except for the fog from funny cigs that was wafting too and fro o'er the audience... ;-) The one thing I did notice and remember distinctly, after all these years, was that during the solo on Goodbye Pork Pie Hat, she sat on a plastic chair in the back of the stage, and buried her head in her hands - looking road weary or performance tired, I know not which. Her performance was great, however. And the other thing was Brecker missing his little solo during Hejira - "Listen..." > More info: http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=844 http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=845 http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=847 > - ---- > For a comprehensive reference to Joni's appearances, > consult Joni Mitchell ~ A Chronology of Appearances: > http://www.jonimitchell.com/appearances.html > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 02:52:43 -0400 > From: ljirvin@jmdl.com > Subject: Today's Library Links: August 16 > > On August 16 the following articles were published: > > > 1979: "Joni Mitchell Grows Up, Her Music Fills Out" - Cleveland Plain Dealer > (Review - Concert) > http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=843 > > > 1998: "Rock 'n Roll Legends in Garden Reprise" - Orange County Times Herald > (Review - Concert) > http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=237 > > > 2000: "Presidential praise for Lew" - Reuters/Variety > (News Item) > http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=538 > > ------------------------------ > > End of JMDL Digest V2003 #405 > ***************************** > > ------- > Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > ------- > Siquomb, isn't she? 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Rachel _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 21:47:07 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: Beat of Black Wings i always thought it was "tired angel", you know the angel of death, the messenger of darkness, tired of visiting the war zones and hauling away so many souls. i related to he other part of the background chorus "upon your wing, way up... upon your wing way up..." on the other hand, on one of the music sheets for this song you can read "charlie angel", apparently the name US helicopters had during vietnam, so maybe i'm just FOS! wally - -----Mensaje original----- De: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]En nombre de Stephen Toogood Enviado el: Lunes, 18 de Agosto de 2003 05:54 p.m. Para: Joni List Asunto: Re: Beat of Black Wings I always thought it was "Charlie Angel" but have never been quite sure. I think it is one of the strongest songs on CMIARS but that line doesn't seem to fit in lime with the rest of the song, at least not for me. Steve T P.S. Mark E - "Come in, come in, come in..." :) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 21:20:32 -0700 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Beat of Black Wings Anita LMAO!!! Sorry I could Not resist! It was so surreal to see that thing though and I am glad you have it. I promise one day I will grow up and behave myself. Funny I had on my Launchcast Radio Station today (self programmable Radio station on Yahoo) and it played 4 Joni songs in a row. It has never done that before. The first song was Beat of Black Wings followed by For Free, Cold Blue Steel, and Circle Game. I always thought it was Johnny Angel as has been discussed here in the past. I also think it has something to do with an older song. Love Paz NP-CPR Live > Hi dear friends. A mate of mine (Simon) has emailed me with this query and > I wondered if any of you guys out there had any views about this? > > "Anita, I went to check something that has been bugging me ever since I > bought the Chalk Man In A Rain Storm cassette. I think The Beat Of Black > Wings is one of the most marvellous songs Joni has ever written but I > could never understand the refrain that is repeated 3 times after each > verse (after the words Beat of Black Wings). But there is no refrain > printed Please put me out of my misery and let me know what they are, it > sounds like "Charlie and Joe", but I'm sure it isn't." > I think that I recall that it's deliberately obscure but would welcome any > other knowledge. > Lots of love > Anita > PS Michael Re: I'll be seeing you - you know you can touch it any time. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 02:27:00 -0400 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today in History: August 19 1969: The Dick Cavett Show, taped a day earlier, aired on this day. Based on the TV listing, Jimi Hendrix was originally scheduled to be on the show as well. More info: http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=803 1979: Joni performed at the Minneapolis Auditorium More info: http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=825 - ---- For a comprehensive reference to Joni's appearances, consult Joni Mitchell ~ A Chronology of Appearances: http://www.jonimitchell.com/appearances.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 02:27:00 -0400 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Library Links: August 19 On August 19 the following articles were published: 1979: "It's Art, Not Fluff from Joni" - Lorain Journal (Interview) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=848 1979: "The New Artistry of Joni Mitchell" - New York Times (Interview) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=863 1998: "Joni Mitchell Tries To Bring Concert To Television" - MTV Website (News Item) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=198 ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2003 #261 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? 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