From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2003 #245 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Monday, August 4 2003 Volume 2003 : Number 245 Sign up now for JoniFest 2003! http://www.jonifest.com ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: downloadables [=?iso-8859-1?q?Jamie=20Zubairi?= ] Re: joni related sightings [Catherine McKay ] Re: Rhyme Police - Song for Sharon ["kakki" ] Re: joni related sightings ["kakki" ] September 23rd Joni Release [Michael Paz ] Re: September 23rd Joni Release [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Between the Forceps and the Stone??? [Michael Paz ] Re: Rhyme Police - Song for Sharon [Gary Zack ] Re: Rhyme Police - Song for Sharon [Dflahm@aol.com] Re: Rhyme Police - Song for Sharon [=?iso-8859-1?Q?Emiliano_Pati=F1o?= ] Re: Recent snag [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Recent snag [=?iso-8859-1?Q?Emiliano_Pati=F1o?= ] Today in History: August 4 [ljirvin@jmdl.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 11:49:47 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Jamie=20Zubairi?= Subject: Re: downloadables Hi Rick Thanks for that.... I haven't feard of drumbeat... is it as simple as drumbeat.com or is there a better url? I will look into it on tuesday when I'm back at work. Moving house on Monday!!! erk Much Joni Jamie Zoob Rick and Susan wrote: On 8/1/03 5:18 AM, jamiezubairi@yahoo.co.uk wrote > I'm on a mac at work...and I was just > wondering if anyone was on broadband who had...limewire Jamie, have you tried DrumBeat? It beats Limewire hands down. > Joni rarities I've got Joni and James at the BBC (1970) on my hard drive if that's rare enough. Someone downloaded the entire thing from me last night. Rick - --------------------------------- Yahoo! Plus - For a better Internet experience ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 09:37:20 EDT From: Bobsart48@aol.com Subject: Re: Rhyme Police - Song for Sharon anima_rising@yahoo.ca writes: > Hey! Whatcha got against Betsy? Nothin' - my tongue just has a little trouble handling Mama and her at the same time :~) Plus, her final vowel sound doesn't rhyme internally with Dora the way Mama's does. (who is Betsy anyway?) Good question - anyone know about Betsy and Dora ? Bobsart ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 09:49:16 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Rhyme Police - Song for Sharon In a message dated 8/2/2003 10:44:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Bobsart48@aol.com writes: > Muller asked for my confession - here it is > (shameless, and unrepentent - I generally edit the listed lines by deleting > words (in parentheses) - sometimes I add (underlined), replace or shorten > words): > > Wow Bob, you are truly one of the bravest men I know to admit that massive retooling of one of Joni's bestestest songs ever! I suppose you're just dying to glue the Venus de Milo's arms back on as well? ;~) I'll leave it to others to decide what the penance should be for this confession...say ten "Hail Britneys" or something... Just kidding...I understand why you do it, but SfS is what it is in my mind because of it's musical and verbal 'meanderings'. It's a whole different logic of writing than, say, a Both Sides Now or something. But if it helps you to sing it, and allows you the joy of doing so, then I say Viva la alteracion! :~) I was at a friend's house last night, and discovered that: 1. He is an excellent guitarist with a great sounding Ovation, and 2. He knows practically the entire Springsteen songbook! So needless to say it was around 2 in the morning before I pointed my way back home. My point in saying this is that Bruce also does some word-jamming of his own on a lot of his songs, and I noticed that while I was singing and thought about it in the context of this conversation. And yes, Rose..."Rosalita" was one of the first one we did! Bob NP: James Newton Howard, "Unbreakable" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 09:56:41 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Rhyme Police - Song for Sharon In a message dated 8/3/2003 9:39:00 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Bobsart48@aol.com writes: > Good question - anyone know about Betsy and Dora ? > Betsy (she also makes a cameo in "Moon At The Window") is Peter Asher's wife. Peter was Joni's manager for a time, and Joni & Betsy were good friends. Don't know nuttin' 'bout Dora though... Oh, another interesting sidenote on SfS...in the ASCAP listings it is registered as "Song For Sharon Bell", which is also how Joni introduced it when she played it in Atlanta in '98 (& the only time she did!) Bob NP: Hans Zimmer, "Hijack" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2003 11:27:13 -0400 From: Yael Harlap Subject: joni related sightings hi all, i'm coming back from the underworld for a minute- two joni-related stories. 1. some of you know i do sound at a venue called the Ark in ann arbor. well, about two weeks ago we had a weird little play called "Mr. Foster and Mr. Twain", about an imaginary dialogue between stephen foster (songwriter) and mark twain. i did sound for that show... and mr. foster was chuck mitchell. he was really pleasant to work with, and his 16 year old niece and i went out to grab some take-out food just before the show. i did NOT say anything joni-related to him, of course ;) (somehow i think i could have made that story sound way more exciting. but it really wasn't all that exciting). 2. someone i met at the Ark, a musician who was opening for todd rundgren (i can't remember his name right now - he gave me his cd so i can go look at it but i'm too lazy to go get it), and i were talking after the show. he was a really cool guy, actually. we were talking about LA and people in LA, and he was saying that he once saw joni pulled up at a traffic light in some fancy car, which he thought was so not joni-like (i would disagree with that - i guess he still expected a hippie princess). but then he said he was at a nude beach with some friends about 6 months ago, and there were very few people there, just his group, and then joni and a friend!!! he was so much more pleased by the joni-at-the-nude-beach experience (and really, who wouldn't be??). anyhow, if you want to find joni in LA maybe you should go hang out at a nude beach. see some of you next week! :) - -yael ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 13:25:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: joni related sightings --- Yael Harlap wrote: > hi all, i'm coming back from the underworld for a > minute- > > two joni-related stories. > > 1. some of you know i do sound at a venue called the > Ark in ann arbor. > well, about two weeks ago we had a weird little play > called "Mr. Foster and > Mr. Twain", about an imaginary dialogue between > stephen foster (songwriter) > and mark twain. i did sound for that show... and mr. > foster was chuck > mitchell. he was really pleasant to work with, and > his 16 year old niece > and i went out to grab some take-out food just > before the show. i did NOT > say anything joni-related to him, of course ;) Your self-restraint is truly admirable. Most of us would have been babbling something idiotic and asking him many dumb questions about things that happened so long ago, he has probably forgotten (or would like to). but then he said > he was at a nude beach with some friends about 6 > months ago, and there were > very few people there, just his group, and then joni > and a friend!!! he was > so much more pleased by the joni-at-the-nude-beach > experience (and really, > who wouldn't be??). > > anyhow, if you want to find joni in LA maybe you > should go hang out at a > nude beach. > Say, I have an idea for the location of the next joni-fest... I can even dream up a few names for the fest, but most of them are rude. ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 11:19:46 -0700 From: "kakki" Subject: Re: Rhyme Police - Song for Sharon When Joni had the art exhibit here in Hollywood a few years ago I overheard her talking to some guy all about a "Betsy" and of course my ears perked up in Pavlovian response ;-) The way they talked it sounded like this Betsy was a very good old friend. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 11:26:25 -0700 From: "kakki" Subject: Re: joni related sightings Yael, What great stuff! >> but then he said he was at a nude beach with some friends about 6 > > months ago, and there were very few people there, just his group, and then joni > > and a friend!!! > > Ha! Did he happen to say which part of LA the beach was located? There's one near where I grew up but one has to either hike down a very steep cliff or swim around a point at low tide to get to it. The authorities supposedly shut it down a few years ago but I don't think they enforce the law too much (too much trouble to get there!) I suspect however, that Joni would probably be at one in the Malibu area. Catherine wrote: > Say, I have an idea for the location of the next > joni-fest... I can even dream up a few names for the > fest, but most of them are rude. Well it would be "Woodstock, back to the beach" of course (haahhem ;-) Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2003 14:58:06 -0700 From: Michael Paz Subject: September 23rd Joni Release Hi gang- I am only 810 emails behind on the list and I don't know if this has been discussed, so excuse me if this is old news The Complete Geffen Recordings due out September 23rd. This four disc set includes four digitally re-mastered albums released between 1982 and 1991. This will include one of my faves Wild Things Run Fast. Someone please alert Don Rowe and the rest of the Dog Eat Dog and Chalk Mark in A Rainstorm crowd as well as Night Ride Home. Just thought you guys would like to know. I will be in line to get them along with Dave Matthews solo album which comes out on the same day. Best Paz ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 16:12:07 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: September 23rd Joni Release In a message dated 8/3/2003 3:55:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time, michael@thepazgroup.com writes: > The Complete Geffen Recordings due out September 23rd. This four disc set > includes four digitally re-mastered albums released between 1982 and 1991. > Hey Michael, Thanks for the news - do you know if this release is going to contain any unreleased tracks? Wasn't there some comment earlier that Geffen had some bonus material? I'd be surprised if this were true, but one can hope. If there is some new content, It'd give me a reason to buy it - and released on my birthday no less. See you in less than a week dude. Bob NP: Lionheart, "Car On A Hill" (Great hair-metal rock version!) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2003 17:57:51 -0700 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Between the Forceps and the Stone??? Marian I wonder if this is the book that Julius bought for about $300 and then returned it because it was not worth it. I have copied him on this and I am sure he will reply to you. Love Michael P.S> Will be missing you a lot next weekend! > Has anyone ever heard of this book: > > MITCHELL, JONI > "BETWEEN THE FORCEPS AND THE STONE": SELECTED LYRICS FROM 25 YEARS > Contre Coup Press Louisville 1996 1ST EDITION #7of10copies Very Fine copy 8 > photos by Noel Hawley 8vo cloth/bds 36pp 1/4 cloth over paper boards;set in > cochin type,printed on NIDEGGEN paper. In original mylar dj 8 TIPPED-IN > ORIGINAL PHOTOS BY NOEL HAWLEY > Bookseller Inventory #003360 > > > > Marian > Vienna ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 18:57:50 EDT From: PassScribe@aol.com Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2003 #243 << From: "Jim Leonard" Subject: About this and that (Emmylou / JoniFest) I never had the pleasure of attending an "original-style" JoniFest, and I must admit that my interest took a nose-dive last year when it was transformed from an informal annual weekend get-together at Ashara's (and nearby motels) into something far more organized and expensive, at a resort. I wouldn't be surprised if this "growing" of the Fest, into an event complete with commemorative merchandise and daily agendas and workshops and what have you, has been the primary reason for the decline in interest. Maybe there could be a return to greater informality in the future, wherein the Fest again becomes a gathering of friends old and new, with no real agenda but to see where things go, and with no financial and/or commitment deadlines. I know that the number of Fest-ers grew too large for Ashara's comfort in 2001, in terms of the Fest taking place at her home and its environs - and, hence, the "new-style" Fest was born - but maybe there's some happy medium that could be arrived at, like having it at a reserved area in a large park somewhere, with plenty of elbow-room, and with affordable motels and camping options in the area. Just my two cents, which I hope are seen as a constructively-submitted hypothesis from someone who, admittedly, knows very little about it. (No flames, please.) Best, Jim >> Hi, Jim. I think your comments regarding the Fest are valid although I DO like the idea of something structured and predictable so you don't wind up with a disaster. I've been to a number of fan-gatherings in the past and, after you've been to three or four for a particular artist, you tend to be a bit jaded. You figure it's all going to be about the same as before so you might start to skip one or two; perhaps that's what has happened with JoniFest (although Ashara tells me she's happy with the attendance right now.) This is my first JoniFest and I'm as excited as a little kid about it all; looking forward to meeting everyone & hearing the performers. Yes, it's a bit expensive but -judging by what you're getting for the money-it's not unreasonable. Besides, I could USE a long weekend in the Catskills... even it it wasn't a JoniFest! Kenny B ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 18:59:49 EDT From: PassScribe@aol.com Subject: Re: JoniFests/Attendance << From: "Jim Leonard" Subject: About this and that (Emmylou / JoniFest) I never had the pleasure of attending an "original-style" JoniFest, and I must admit that my interest took a nose-dive last year when it was transformed from an informal annual weekend get-together at Ashara's (and nearby motels) into something far more organized and expensive, at a resort. I wouldn't be surprised if this "growing" of the Fest, into an event complete with commemorative merchandise and daily agendas and workshops and what have you, has been the primary reason for the decline in interest. Maybe there could be a return to greater informality in the future, wherein the Fest again becomes a gathering of friends old and new, with no real agenda but to see where things go, and with no financial and/or commitment deadlines. I know that the number of Fest-ers grew too large for Ashara's comfort in 2001, in terms of the Fest taking place at her home and its environs - and, hence, the "new-style" Fest was born - but maybe there's some happy medium that could be arrived at, like having it at a reserved area in a large park somewhere, with plenty of elbow-room, and with affordable motels and camping options in the area. Just my two cents, which I hope are seen as a constructively-submitted hypothesis from someone who, admittedly, knows very little about it. (No flames, please.) Best, Jim >> Hi, Jim. I think your comments regarding the Fest are valid although I DO like the idea of something structured and predictable so you don't wind up with a disaster. I've been to a number of fan-gatherings in the past and, after you've been to three or four for a particular artist, you tend to be a bit jaded. You figure it's all going to be about the same as before so you might start to skip one or two; perhaps that's what has happened with JoniFest (although Ashara tells me she's happy with the attendance right now.) This is my first JoniFest and I'm as excited as a little kid about it all; looking forward to meeting everyone & hearing the performers. Yes, it's a bit expensive but -judging by what you're getting for the money-it's not unreasonable. Besides, I could USE a long weekend in the Catskills... even it it wasn't a JoniFest! Kenny B ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2003 19:10:44 -0400 From: vince Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2003 #243 In my own opinion, I don't agree. The timing has never been right for me by sheerest coincidence, and a few personal things - the move from Ashara's to the place where it is is just the way it had to be - the campground setup sounds as wonderful and perfect as can be now that it has outgrown Ashara's - almost preferable maybe because I wouldn't feel i was imposing as much - from everything I hear, the current location is as ideal as it can be. Vince PassScribe@aol.com wrote: > >I never had the pleasure of attending an "original-style" JoniFest, and I >must admit that my interest took a nose-dive last year when it was >transformed from an informal annual weekend get-together at Ashara's (and >nearby motels) into something far more organized and expensive, at a resort. >I wouldn't be surprised if this "growing" of the Fest, into an event >complete with commemorative merchandise and daily agendas and workshops and >what have you, has been the primary reason for the decline in interest. >Maybe there could be a return to greater informality in the future, wherein >the Fest again becomes a gathering of friends old and new, with no real >agenda but to see where things go, and with no financial and/or commitment >deadlines. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2003 20:04:30 -0700 From: Gary Zack Subject: Re: Rhyme Police - Song for Sharon SCJoniGuy@aol.cm wrote: > >Don't know nuttin' 'bout Dora though... > Well there is no proof in this whatsoever, but back in the mid to late '70s I had a friend (whom I have long since lost contact with) who told me that he had visited Joni at her home, with some friends who apparently knew her better than he did. He told me two things that I still remember - one that Joni smoked Benson and Hedges at the time; and that he had met Dora, who was either Joni's secretary or an employee of some kind, who lived in a smaller house on Joni's property. Don't know if it's true, but when I hear "Dora" in "Song for Sharon" I am always reminded of this guy and him mentioning that to me. Best regards, Gary ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 20:14:22 -0400 From: "Heather" Subject: RE: Recent snag Well ... are you claiming that this is your production? As I wrote, it does have the following on the back: Made in Italy by CD Music Co. Here's the phone number also: (39) 541 61.05.56 Fax: (39) 541 61.39.48 Maybe someone else bootlegged it? As I said, there is a lot of dialogue on this one. Heather - who's birthday is Sept. 20th. -----Original Message----- From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com [mailto:SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 9:44 PM To: chiaroscuro@snet.net; joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Recent snag In a message dated 8/1/2003 8:30:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time, chiaroscuro@snet.net writes: Anyone else have this? Just wondering how published this is. Well, it was tape treed way back when. I transferred my tape to CD, and over the years have made some copies for folks. It's a great show, no doubt about it. "Just Ice" is the bootleg CD that came from it, where they edited out the interview part and just tracked the music. The correct date is Sept. 23, 1994. I remember that one because the 23rd is my b-day. Bob NP: Oliver Nelson, "Stolen Moments" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 20:18:25 EDT From: Dflahm@aol.com Subject: Re: Rhyme Police - Song for Sharon It's one of my favorites too, Bob. But I think it needs the "girders." David Lahm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 02:26:03 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Emiliano_Pati=F1o?= Subject: Re: Rhyme Police - Song for Sharon - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 3:49 PM Subject: Re: Rhyme Police - Song for Sharon > Wow Bob, you are truly one of the bravest men I know to admit that massive > retooling of one of Joni's bestestest songs ever! I suppose you're just dying to > glue the Venus de Milo's arms back on as well? ;~) I'll leave it to others to > decide what the penance should be for this confession...say ten "Hail > Britneys" or something... > > Just kidding...I understand why you do it, but SfS is what it is in my mind > because of it's musical and verbal 'meanderings'. It's a whole different logic > of writing than, say, a Both Sides Now or something. > > But if it helps you to sing it, and allows you the joy of doing so, then I > say Viva la alteracion! :~) Well said, Bob!, I couldn't find that word so suitably fitting SfS, "meanderings", without you. Naturally, whatever gets you through the night... that's alright, and it's for sure, BobSart, that with those "editings" it will be easer to sing, but without doubt it loses much of his uniqueness' force, the amazing living force that give birth, some 27 years ago, to that "bestestest" Masterpiece! My suggested penance: sing it, please, if only once, with all the words! ;-) > > Good question - anyone know about Betsy and Dora ? > > > Betsy (she also makes a cameo in "Moon At The Window") is Peter Asher's wife. > Peter was Joni's manager for a time, and Joni & Betsy were good friends. I wonder if this, maybe with some broadening, will be a useful addition to the "glossary" section on the web page. I mean: it's always interesting to know exact names' references, don't you? or it's just that tattler side of me? :-) Good old Catherine says: > I have to say I like the image of the kids on the > bridge, followed by the girders of the Manhattan > skyline. I imagine these kids walking along one of > those train trestle bridges - they'd have to keep > their balance really well, or they'd fall off - those > things don't usually have handrails alongside, because > you're not supposed to walk across them. Then if the > train comes along, your choice is to run, or to jump > off. Makes sense that if you can do that, you'd > probably be very adept at walking along girders on a > construction site building some skyscraper. You're so keen! I love this "Little indian kids" scene since so long time ago! With your insight at what those "bridges" exactly could be, I admire more, if possible, that poignant reference to skycraper's construction! BTW, could someone, please, give me the reference for a photograph I've seen some years ago of some workers having lunch on one unfinished skyscraper's girder? Well, thank you all for everything, and Play and Sing it with your heart at Jonifest! Let Freedom & Love rule our world! Emiliano NP: Song for Sharon, 6/29/83 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 20:28:25 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Recent snag In a message dated 8/3/2003 8:13:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time, chiaroscuro@snet.net writes: > Well ... are you claiming that this is your production? No, of course not. I was just trying to confirm to you that it was the "Intimate & Interactive/Much Music" Canadian TV special from 9/23/94. My apologies if all I did was to cloud the issue. Bob NP: Judy Niemack, "All I Want" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 20:36:05 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Rhyme Police - Song for Sharon In a message dated 8/3/2003 7:52:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time, nyro_in_detroit@sbcglobal.net writes: > and that he had met Dora, who was either > Joni's secretary or an employee of some kind, Thanks Gary - that works for me. It doesn't really matter I suppose, but with a name like "Dora" you would just assume it was a real person. Two reasons this song has never been covered (in my thinking anyway); it's pretty darn long + it seems so autobiographical...songs like "River" and "Amelia" may be autobiographically inspired as well, but they don't "name names" like SfS seems to. Bob NP: Lynn Dimenna, "Both Sides Now" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 20:39:06 EDT From: Dflahm@aol.com Subject: Re: Rhyme Police - Song for Sharon Didn't I hear long ago that "Indians" have a congenitally better sense of balance than other races? They were, I thought, always considered the best workers on "high steel." LAHM ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 20:49:09 -0400 From: "Heather" Subject: RE: Recent snag I did check part of the video of this show and it does sound like most of it. And I was in error ... it does say Sept. 23rd on the CD jacket. My eyes are bad. Bob, did you tape it off the video tree? Do you think these people did the same thing? Is it legal to do this and sell it in music stores? Had enough questions? ;-) The pictures on this CD jacket look like they were snagged from the video. I can see where we exchange tape/ CD trees amongst list members but I thought there were some sort of laws on selling them in stores. Laurent ... where did you get yours? Sorry for all the questions. I'm feeling feeble and tired this evening. Heather -----Original Message----- From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com [mailto:SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 8:28 PM To: chiaroscuro@snet.net Cc: joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Recent snag In a message dated 8/3/2003 8:13:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time, chiaroscuro@snet.net writes: Well ... are you claiming that this is your production? No, of course not. I was just trying to confirm to you that it was the "Intimate & Interactive/Much Music" Canadian TV special from 9/23/94. My apologies if all I did was to cloud the issue. Bob NP: Judy Niemack, "All I Want" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 21:02:11 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Recent snag In a message dated 8/3/2003 8:47:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time, chiaroscuro@snet.net writes: > Bob, did you tape it off the video tree? No, I recorded it from the audio tape tree copy that I had. Do you think these people did the same thing? Yes, I'm sure they would have recorded it CD from the video. Is it legal to do this and sell it in music > stores? The laws in Europe seem to be more lax in this regard...or should I say the ENFORCEMENT of the law. I don't know for sure, maybe some Europeans in the know can chime in. I bought 2 bootlegs at a small shop in Athens, GA. The independent & small shops will stock them, albeit unlawfully. I suppose they can always plead ignorance. By the same token, right now on Ebay somebody is selling DVD's of "Refuge Of The Roads", burned on a home DVD burner I'm sure. This film is not yet legitimately released on DVD, although we were informed that it would be later this year. Had enough questions? ;-) No way Jose! In the words of the "commander-in chief", "Bring 'em on"! I'm certainly no authority but I know a little and have some opinions. Unfortunately there is not a good web resource for Joni bootlegs. As much as Brian Hinton gets beat up for his book, he does take a stab at them as opposed to pretending that they don't exist. To his credit, he also listed about 2 pages of covers, including some that I STILL haven't found yet, dammit! (Anybody in the UK who can help me find Max Bygraves' version of BSN?) Bob NP: Carol Ponder, "Woodstock" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 03:23:25 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Emiliano_Pati=F1o?= Subject: Re: Recent snag Heather asked, about "Just Ice" bootleg being published in Italy: > Do you think these people did the > same thing? Is it legal to do this and sell it in music stores? Had enough > questions? ;-) The pictures on this CD jacket look like they were snagged > from the video. I can see where we exchange tape/ CD trees amongst list > members but I thought there were some sort of laws on selling them in > stores. Laurent ... where did you get yours? Well, obviously it's illegal: I mean, sure our Joni don't sees no cent from it (though it enriches its publishers): english people have a german word (I don't recall it by now) to tell "bootleg" (pirates, as we call it in our country) editions of english novels being published in some place maybe at the south of Alpes. I too have an edition of unofficial live stuff (It's called, "The circle game", but in the USA it's known as "Urge For Going", I think): this edition is curiously edited by a much know publishing house (Orbis Fabbri): I dare say they went out with some History of Rock'n'Roll's special edition (to be bought in newstands, etc with some magazine added) and it found its way through the "indie" music store where I found it some ten years ago (between myriads of Bruce Springsteen or Kiss bootlegs) My question is: these publishing houses gets some special permit & from who? My edition says: "material extracted from private collections, recorded at public appeareances", but *no copyright mention* = Bootleg, with a patch over one eye... and a bottle of rum! Yours: Emiliano NP: Help me, 06/29/83 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 21:29:30 EDT From: Bobsart48@aol.com Subject: Re: Rhyme Police - Song for Sharon Bob Muller writes: > I suppose you're just dying to glue the Venus de Milo's arms back on as > well? ;~) You mean someone found them ? If so, then I'm your Handy Man :-) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 21:35:04 EDT From: Bobsart48@aol.com Subject: Re: Rhyme Police - Song for Sharon In a message dated 8/3/03 7:51:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time, nyro_in_detroit@sbcglobal.net writes: > He told me two things that I still remember - one that Joni smoked > Benson and Hedges at the time; and that he had met Dora, who was either > Joni's secretary or an employee of some kind, who lived in a smaller > house on Joni's property. Don't know if it's true, but when I hear > "Dora" in "Song for Sharon" I am always reminded of this guy and him > mentioning that to me. > > Best regards, > > Gary > > > Very cool story, regardless of percentage accuracy. Best Bobsart ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 03:41:53 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Emiliano_Pati=F1o?= Subject: Re: Song for Sharon Bob, Great Authority in Covers, says: > Two reasons > this song has never been covered (in my thinking anyway); it's pretty darn long > + it seems so autobiographical...songs like "River" and "Amelia" may be > autobiographically inspired as well, but they don't "name names" like SfS seems to. > and on Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 08:46:47 -0500 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Wall to Wall, Part 1 > She (Lorinda Lisitza) was then joined by vocalist Karen Mack & pianist/vocalist > Michael Holland (who has a WONDERFUL cover of A Case of You recorded) and > they launched into a fine version of Song For Sharon, with Michael providing dead-on > harmonies. You could tell by watching him that this song was written in his soul. Many thanks for all that soul food, Bob! I guess that's why I just love her (Lorinda's) set! Have a Wonderful time! Emiliano NP: Gregson & Collister, The Same Situation (just before going to bed) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 22:04:26 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Song for Sharon In a message dated 8/3/2003 9:46:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time, emilianopd@mundo-r.com writes: > I guess that's why I just love her (Lorinda's) set! > Yes, it was one of my favorites as well...and I was guilty of a major faux pas as David Lahm recorded SfS on his first Joni-inspired jazz CD, "Jazz Takes On Joni Mitchell". This was of course an instrumental version so the personalized lyrics would not be an issue. Also, P.M. Dawn performed SfS live in the 1999 Central Park concert, but this is not an officially released recording, same is the case with Lorinda's. Bob NP: King Harvest, "Dancing In The Moonlight" (on AOL's "one hit wonders" radio station. I always liked this song a lot.) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2003 23:50:39 -0700 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: September 23rd Joni Release This was just a blurb in Rolling Stone and I added the comments about what albums they include. One can only dream and hope. Counting the minutes. Paz > In a message dated 8/3/2003 3:55:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > michael@thepazgroup.com writes: > >> The Complete Geffen Recordings due out September 23rd. This four disc set >> includes four digitally re-mastered albums released between 1982 and 1991. >> > > Hey Michael, > > Thanks for the news - do you know if this release is going to contain any > unreleased tracks? Wasn't there some comment earlier that Geffen had some > bonus > material? I'd be surprised if this were true, but one can hope. If there is > some new content, It'd give me a reason to buy it - and released on my > birthday > no less. > > See you in less than a week dude. > > Bob > > NP: Lionheart, "Car On A Hill" (Great hair-metal rock version!) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 02:05:23 -0400 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today in History: August 4 1994: Joni performed at the Edmonton Folk Festival. More info: http://www.jonimitchell.com/Edmonton94.html - ---- For a comprehensive reference to Joni's appearances, consult Joni Mitchell ~ A Chronology of Appearances: http://www.jonimitchell.com/appearances.html ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2003 #245 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)