From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2003 #198 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Thursday, June 19 2003 Volume 2003 : Number 198 Sign up now for JoniFest 2003! http://www.jonifest.com ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re thank you ["mike pritchard" ] Newaswell.....greetings from Glasgow! [Gordon Mackie ] gino vannelli [twoshoes@sasktel.net] You're funny, Joni ["Marianne Rizzo" ] Re: You're funny, Joni [=?iso-8859-1?q?Jamie=20Zubairi?= ] I WILL BURN TOMORROW! ["David Callan" ] Re: You're funny, Joni ["Bree Mcdonough" ] RE: You're funny, Joni ["Maggie McNally" ] Joni is funny [Aerchak@aol.com] Re: You're funny, Joni [AzeemAK@aol.com] Re: You're funny, Joni [=?iso-8859-1?q?Jamie=20Zubairi?= ] Re: Hedge & Donna + Joni [vince ] song list for mandy moore album [BRYAN8847@aol.com] Today's Library Links: June 19 [ljirvin@jmdl.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 09:00:04 +0200 From: "mike pritchard" Subject: Re thank you Hi Maggie and welcome, Maggie said >>She is a Musicians Musician just like there are Artists that only other Artists really appreciate<< And on a more trivial level I would add that footballers (soccer players to you guys over on the other side of the pond) are generally happy to win any kinds of awards but the one they REALLY want to win above all others is the one where only other professional footballers get to vote. Joe Public is too easily influenced by the media hype. A jury of one's peers is the only true test, and although Joni Mitchell has very few peers, (in her opinion too) practically all musicians acknowledge her immense contribution to late 20th century popular music. IMHO, of course. mike in barcelona (sans lliga, sans copa, sans Beckham, sans everything) NP - Ani - Little Plastic Castles ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 09:22:21 +0100 From: Gordon Mackie Subject: Newaswell.....greetings from Glasgow! Maggie Hello from dreich Glasgow. It's nice to be able to welcome another Scot. There are a few of us (but only a few) tho we did have a McJoni Fest last October...well there were 4 of us at Loch Lomond ! (and two were from Paris!). I was at one of the Edinburgh concerts too.I also had tickets to see her in the 70's. I think it was 75 at the Apollo ...but she cancelled at short notice. Sarah Cartwright on the list is in Glasgow...and er..me! Where's you? Willy the Shake used to live in Wishaw (hi Mags in New Jersey) but he's in New Zealand now (close to Hell, hi Hell) (PS Hell is a member not a place) WOHAM....watched it last night....(tho Bob Muller had a copy made for me a couple of months ago...cheers Bob) . Of course I loved it - one annoyance tho...no narrator bringing the whole piece together. I'm sure this was a conscious choice, maybe even a demand made by Joni, but it leaves a feeling of disjointedness and much of the analysis is therfore kinda light. Nobody to make connections and reach conclusions. We have to reach our own instead. On reflection, you don't get to know much about Joni that you didn't know before and the obvious omissions amuse me. The Missing Hissing and James Taylor almost airbrushed out. Ah, selectivity. Where would we be without it! Ha. I think I'm finished namedropping for today - hope you enjoy the list. It is great...and like any good community, we laugh, we cry, we argue (sometimes spectacularly), and mostly talk about the Joni side of our lives. (not always) Gordon Gordon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 07:21:35 EDT From: AsharaJM@aol.com Subject: Re: newaswell Welcome, Maggie to this wonderful place of Joni friends around the world. Where outside of Glasgow are you from? I was in Findhorn last summer, and flew into Glasgow. Beautiful, beautiful. Great to have you on board! Hugs, Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 08:04:27 -0400 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: thank you In a message dated 6/17/2003 9:30:43 PM Eastern Standard Time, anima_rising@yahoo.ca writes: > Yeah, right, there's this database and Muller's just GOTTA go and check it! Can you spell obsessive compulsive? I'm not sure if I can. Also, I thought you were saying you had 83 > concerts on CD - that's a lot of Joni, even for a fan. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 15:30:50 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Ms=20M?= Subject: Not drowning Waving: HI(-: Me again..Well I am still swimming. Not very techno minded though, so I can't do the fancy dancy stuff yet. How is everyone in cyberland? Can the UK people possibly let me know who they are if they are not too shy? I live no where near Motherwell Jamie, I am on the west coast by the sea, very dull, very rural, but very pretty. Thanks for your lovely welcome though. Mingus you met Joni, I am in awe, can you tell us more? Also has anyone read "Beneath the Underdog?" I am very curious about Mingus I know so little about his music, his politics etc. Did I imagine this or did someone quote Wallace Stevens in an earlier digest, I scrolled through to fast then deleted ( twas before I started writing I was sussing this out) so can't find the quote or who you are..Mike thanks for your reply, but, football me no likey (for a Scot that is a serious confession) me sick to death of Beckham enough said! I do know what you mean though. (-; I think it is brilliant that the young uns are discovering Joni she is timeless and in the present music culture sorely needed. What do people think of Travelogue or has this been a subject debated too much already? i would like to know who the guy is in one of the portraitsin fact i would love to know the stories behind all the pictures is that on a database anywhere? I have to go, I can hear the Mermaids singing.. Metta. M ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 08:56:29 -0600 From: twoshoes@sasktel.net Subject: gino vannelli I know there is someone on this list who is a big Gino Vannelli fan, but don't recall whether you are on the all-joan list or not, so please forgive me for posting this njc to both lists. Whoever you are, I hope you are in Canada and can get CBC tv. Kate ~~ http://xoetc.antville.org Who does she think she is, Anaos Nin? ~~ 15. GINO VANNELLI - CANTO: Forget the hairy chest and all those chains - Gino Vannelli, curly-haired darling of the Seventies - has re-invented himself. He's just released his fourteenth album, "Canto," a grand sweep of music spanning and combining musical styles as diverse as pop, classical, Celtic and flamenco for a work that defies definition. In composing this album, Vannelli let go of his own preconceptions, and let the music take him in a new direction. Find out what it's all about in Gino Vannelli: Canto, tonight at 9 on CBC Television. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 11:37:56 -0400 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: You're funny, Joni Hi joni friends, I have been thinking about some Joni lines that make me laugh or smile. What lines do you find to be funny? Here are a couple of mine: "There's a gypsy down on Bleecker Street I went into see her as a kind of joke And she lit a candle for my love luck And eighteen bucks went up in smoke" Song for Sharon Hejira "If you've got a place like that to go You know you've got to go there If you've got no place special Well then, you just go no place special" Cotton Avenue Don Juan's Reckless Daughter Marianne _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 17:37:06 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Jamie=20Zubairi?= Subject: Re: You're funny, Joni The lines that make me laugh is from 'Silky Veils Of Ardo(u)r' I wish I had the wings Of Noah's pretty little white dove So I can fly this raging river To reach the one I love.... But I have no wings And the water is so wide... --- Marianne Rizzo wrote: > Hi joni friends, > > I have been thinking about some Joni lines that make > me laugh or smile. > What lines do you find to be funny? > > Here are a couple of mine: > __________________________________________________ Yahoo! Plus - For a better Internet experience http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/yplus/yoffer.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 12:42:09 -0400 From: Aerchak@aol.com Subject: Fwd: You're funny, Joni Return-Path: Received: from aol.com (mow-m28.webmail.aol.com [64.12.137.5]) by air-id07.mx.aol.com (v94.29) with ESMTP id MAILINID73-3e043ef0962e25a; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 12:41:18 -0400 Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 12:41:18 -0400 From: Aerchak@aol.com To: treegreen1@hotmail.com ("Marianne Rizzo") Subject: Re: You're funny, Joni MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <3AC05439.4FE27C2F.0015A353@aol.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit All the pleasure I am going to have watching your hairline recede, my vain darling. I like that one. Andrea ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 11:54:50 -0500 From: "Mark Tatum" Subject: joni mention on Steely Dan dvd ? Steely Dan's new release, Everything Must Go has a dvd included with the cd, and the dvd is "Steely Dan Confessions" which you can also see on the official website. It is a takeoff on Taxi Cab Confessions and features Walter and Donald riding aroune in Las Vegas with Rita the taxidriver. The pick up various women and talk to them, discussing the new album. In episode 5 (The Wig Woman Lets Go), Walter is reading the titles of the songs to a woman and asking her to tell what she thinks the songs may be about. One of the songs is "Blues Beach" and she basically says that while you go to the beach for tranquility, there can also be a dark side to losing yourself in the ocean. Then when Walter says something about going down to the murky depths, Donald Fagan says "down the dark ladder" and Walter Becker repeats "down down the dark ladder". Is there some other literary reference I am missing, or is this a clear reference to the lyrics of "Cold Blue Steel and Sweet Fire"? BTW, the new album is excellent on all counts. I especially like the title cut, as well as "The Last Mall" and "Greenbook". IMHO, it is even darker than "Two Against Nature" as far as the subject matter and assessment of our world is concerned, but thankfully much more upbeat in tempo and tone, if that makes any sense. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 10:10:08 -0700 From: "Lori Fye" Subject: Re: You're funny, Joni Marianne wrote: > I have been thinking about some Joni lines that make me laugh or > smile. What lines do you find to be funny? Now I heard little children Were supposed to sleep tight That's why I got into the vodka one night ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 14:16:12 -0400 From: "David Callan" Subject: I WILL BURN TOMORROW! I have access. Don't question the fates! [IMAGE][IMAGE]Tomorrow, I will be copying from the following: Fotheringay: Poems from Alexandra, JM: Posall & Mosalm, Urge for Going & River Charles, Stevie Nicks: Cathouse Blues; Lindsey: Gift of Screws. For those to whom I owe a mailing, I will send by July 5th, otherwise, send me a SASEnvelope. this good fortune will last until mid August, at least, and hopefully i will be self-sufficient after that! Email me by tomorrow and I will make copy onto Memorex disc, and listen to each copy EVERY SECOND over weekend to make sure they are okay. DOUG: Don't know if that "Case of You"is from Johnny Cash show. No credits at all, a cheap CD. Still, has some treasures on it. It has very different lyrics! "Snow sparkles like eyesight falling to earth, like seeing fallen brightly away." Wallace Stevens, "No Possum, No Sop, No Taters" LOKI SINGS: http://www.geocities.com/djcallan1/index.html - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ MSN 8 helps ELIMINATE E-MAIL VIRUSES. Get 2 months FREE*. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 14:38:14 -0400 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: You're funny, Joni The whole of Otis and Marlena...and especially the way Joni way Joni sings it. And the line....."Watching your hairline recede my vain darling"..... From Harry's house......"While at home their paper wives and their paper kids paper the walls to keep their gut reactions hid." And yes.....there maybe more... Bree NP: Pat Metheny.....The Gathering Sky.. >I have been thinking about some Joni lines that make me laugh or smile. >What lines do you find to be funny? > >Here are a couple of mine: > > >"There's a gypsy down on Bleecker Street >I went into see her as a kind of joke >And she lit a candle for my love luck >And eighteen bucks went up in smoke" > Song for Sharon > Hejira > > > >"If you've got a place like that to go >You know you've got to go there >If you've got no place special >Well then, you just go no place special" > Cotton Avenue > Don Juan's Reckless Daughter > > >Marianne > >_________________________________________________________________ >Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 16:01:07 -0400 From: "Maggie McNally" Subject: RE: You're funny, Joni "kiss my ass, I said/and I threw my drink.../tequila trickling down his business suit/must be the Irish Blood/fight before you think!" Maggie NP: 1999 Jonifest - Disc Two - Michael - Love Puts On a New Face -----Original Message----- From: Bree Mcdonough [mailto:bree_mcdonough@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 2:38 PM To: treegreen1@hotmail.com; joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: You're funny, Joni The whole of Otis and Marlena...and especially the way Joni way Joni sings it. And the line....."Watching your hairline recede my vain darling"..... From Harry's house......"While at home their paper wives and their paper kids paper the walls to keep their gut reactions hid." And yes.....there maybe more... Bree NP: Pat Metheny.....The Gathering Sky.. >I have been thinking about some Joni lines that make me laugh or smile. >What lines do you find to be funny? > >Here are a couple of mine: > > >"There's a gypsy down on Bleecker Street >I went into see her as a kind of joke >And she lit a candle for my love luck >And eighteen bucks went up in smoke" > Song for Sharon > Hejira > > > >"If you've got a place like that to go >You know you've got to go there >If you've got no place special >Well then, you just go no place special" > Cotton Avenue > Don Juan's Reckless Daughter > > >Marianne > >_________________________________________________________________ >Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 16:08:48 EDT From: Aerchak@aol.com Subject: Joni is funny And I pissed a tequila anaconda the full length of the parking lot! Andrea ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 17:58:12 EDT From: AzeemAK@aol.com Subject: Re: You're funny, Joni In a message dated 18/06/2003 16:39:47 GMT Daylight Time, treegreen1@hotmail.com writes: > I have been thinking about some Joni lines that make me laugh or smile. > What lines do you find to be funny? > > Listening to Joni, I have been moved to tears by the sheer beauty of Hejira (the whole album); shaken my head in awe at the virtuosity of her lyrics; gasped in wonder at a particularly felicitous chord change; persuaded complete strangers in record shops to buy her albums. But I can't remember a Joni song ever making me laugh. Hey, Shakespeare was the greatest dramatist in the English language, and not being able to do jokes for toffee never did him any harm (anyone seen The Reduced Shakespeare company's deconstruction of the Comedies??). Azeem in London NP: Eels - Daisies of the Galaxy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 00:06:07 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Jamie=20Zubairi?= Subject: Re: You're funny, Joni Who can forget the Miles of Aisles version of 'The Last Time I Saw Richard' when Joni goes in her best waitress harridan voice: 'Drink up now, it's getting on time to close'. I guess it's more in performance than the words off the page. AzeemAK@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 18/06/2003 16:39:47 GMT Daylight Time, treegreen1@hotmail.com writes: > I have been thinking about some Joni lines that make me laugh or smile. > What lines do you find to be funny? > > Listening to Joni, I have been moved to tears by the sheer beauty of Hejira (the whole album); shaken my head in awe at the virtuosity of her lyrics; gasped in wonder at a particularly felicitous chord change; persuaded complete strangers in record shops to buy her albums. But I can't remember a Joni song ever making me laugh. Hey, Shakespeare was the greatest dramatist in the English language, and not being able to do jokes for toffee never did him any harm (anyone seen The Reduced Shakespeare company's deconstruction of the Comedies??). Azeem in London NP: Eels - Daisies of the Galaxy - --------------------------------- Yahoo! Plus - For a better Internet experience ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 19:10:42 EDT From: AzeemAK@aol.com Subject: Re: You're funny, Joni In a message dated 19/06/2003 00:06:32 GMT Daylight Time, jamiezubairi@yahoo.co.uk writes: > Who can forget the Miles of Aisles version of 'The Last Time I Saw Richard' > when Joni goes in her best waitress harridan voice: 'Drink up now, it's > getting on time to close'. I guess it's more in performance than the words off > the page. > > > You're right, Jamie, I'll give you that one! I must stress that I'd never accuse Joni of lacking a sense of humour. Her skill as a raconteur is testament to that. I just find that, like the other great Bard, she doesn't fill her songs with gags. Unlike, the Bard, however, I don't think she was trying to! Azeem in London ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 22:33:21 -0400 From: "Lama-Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Joni's Final Sunburst Ibanez Hi Paul, Thanks for the update. I'm glad that Joni's guitars are finding respectful homes. 'Nuff said. I like the way you described the successfull bidder "She is thrilled beyond belief and honored to be the caretaker of such a precious item." That's how I feel about my Norman Seeff print, an outtake from one my all-time desert island discs: "THE HISSING OF SUMMER LAWNS". Can you imagine how much it would have cost to buy outtake artwork from "ABBEY ROAD"? I never would have been a successful bidder. Lama http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3529641046 np: "WILD THINGS RUN FAST" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 23:11:45 -0400 From: vince Subject: Re: Hedge & Donna + Joni I am making a private email to me public... netiquette violation!!!!!!! But Bob was kind enough to remember that I am a long time fan of Hedge and Donna - just listened last week to Bob's cd he made for me back in 2000 of the All the Friendly Colours album - and kind enough to send me this - that's why we all love our Muller! I just felt like telling everyone how much I appreciate you! Thanks! Vince SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: > On the same handbill: > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3529930879&category=29934 > > > Just thought it was cool, and of course immediately thought of you. > Don't think we'll see Joni on the same handbill with Em though... > > Go Sox! > > Bob ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 00:49:35 EDT From: BRYAN8847@aol.com Subject: song list for mandy moore album Here's the song list for the upcoming album mentioned earlier. I'm glad MM is covering something other than Big Yellow Taxi. Senses Working Overtime" (XTC) "Whole Of The Moon" (The Waterboys) "Can We Still Be Friends" (Todd Rundgren) "I Feel The Earth Move" (Carole King) "Mona Lisas & Mad Hatters" (Elton John) "Drop the Pilot" (Joan Armatrading) "Moonshadow" (Cat Stevens) "One Way Or Another" (Blondie) "Breaking Us In Two" (Joe Jackson) "Anticipation" (Carly Simon) "Help Me" (Joni Mitchell) "Have A Little Faith In Me" (John Hiatt) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 02:13:56 -0400 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Library Links: June 19 On June 19 the following items were published: 1999: "Joni Mitchell has sold a Hollywood Hills house" - Los Angeles Times (News Item) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=31 2000: "Both Sides Now" - MacLean's Online (Biography) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=525 ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2003 #198 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? 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