From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2003 #160 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Tuesday, May 13 2003 Volume 2003 : Number 160 Sign up now for JoniFest 2003! http://www.jonifest.com ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Today in History: May 12 [ljirvin@jmdl.com] kakki constitution ["mike pritchard" ] Looking For Joni BBC IN Concert on Video [PAUL LOGAN ] "That Song About the Midway" ["Kerry Berghoff" ] Wedding march ["Kerry Berghoff" ] Re: David Sanborn covers "Man From Mars" [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] And how great is this lyric? [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: And how great is this lyric? [RoseMJoy@aol.com] Re: Little Green/Circle Game [Bobsart48@aol.com] RE: And how great is this lyric? ["Wally Kairuz" Subject: kakki constitution Mike wrote: >> and would that be Thomas Jefferson, who owned slaves and backed legislation to protect the rights of the slave owning classes and who presided over a country that defined black people in its constitution as worth 60% of a white person?<< Kakki replied >>Mike can you point me to the part of the US constitution that provides this definition? << Article 1, section 2, paragraph 3 states: "Representatives and direct taxes shall be apportioned among the several states which may be included within this Union, according to their respective numbers, which shall be determined by adding the whole number of free persons, including those bound to service for a term of years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other persons." This was changed by section 2 of Amendment XIV in 1868, 81 years after the signing of the Constitution, when 17 presidents had been in office, including Jefferson. The amendment was rejected by Kentucky and New Jersey, apologies to Lama and Rosalita for my bad taste in mentioning this. There is a good discussion on this by Naomi Zack in 'Race, Class, Gender, and Sexuality: The Big Questions', edited by Zack, Shrage, and Sartwell, and also, less well discussed, in my own "One drop of blood" article. mike in barcelona, winners of the European Basketball League. NPIMH We Are The Champions - thousands of people ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 04:16:08 -0700 From: PAUL LOGAN Subject: Looking For Joni BBC IN Concert on Video Hi--I am looking for "Joni Mitchell sings Joni Mitchell"--BBC In Concert 1970 on video tape or dvd-r with James Taylor. Will trade for or purchase---have several BBC In Concert videos for trade off DirecTV--excellent quality. paullog@earthlink.net ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 07:28:04 -0500 From: est86mlm@ameritech.net Subject: Joni/James Perma-Vine If you're without a CD burner I have a burned copy to send out pronto! I have burned 4 copies for 4 burnerless JMDLr's. I also have the original disc to send on to someone who has a burner and willing to continue the Vine. Let me know if this is you! I'm on digest so if I'm 24-hours slow in responding you'll know why. Here is the track information: 1) That Song About the Midway Joni 2) The Gallery Joni 3) Rainy Day Man James 4) Steamroller Blues James 5) The Priest Joni 6) Carey Joni 7) Carolina in My Mind James 8) California Joni + James 9) For Free Joni + James 10) The Circle Game Joni + James 11) You Can Close Your Eyes Joni + James 12) Hunter Joni 13) River Joni 14) My Old Man Joni 15) A Case of You Joni 16) Carey (unedited intro) Joni Laura in Illinois ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 05:59:59 -0700 (PDT) From: anne@sandstrom.com Subject: the BEST Joni cover I agree that Bonnie's TSATM is up there, BUT by far hands down no question about it... The best Joni cover is Tom Rush's Urge for Going. It's the one Joni song for which I prefer the cover to Joni's version. Another personal favorite of mine was our own Michael Paz doing Amelia at the second NE JoniFest. Brought me to tears... Actually MANY of the covers by our own list members are stunning! lots of love Anne ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 13:09:34 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Gregg & Maggie Cagno hitched at last sorry for the njc, but this is too happy an event to keep from the Joni only folks as many of u know them and love them as I do...Gregg sent me some more pics of the wedding in a very large doc.file...I will get these up somewhere this evening....she looks beautiful...and Gregg well we all know he's a looker;~) In the morning there are lovers in the street They look so high You brush against a stranger And you both apologize ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 17:14:08 -0400 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: David Sanborn covers "Man From Mars" On his new release titled "timeagain", hitting the shops June 3. Cool! Chaka Khan/Chaka Khan's also covered it, as has Kristen Vigard on the "Grace Of My Heart" soundtrack. Looks like MfM is the cover of choice on TTT! :~) Bob NP: Pearl Jam, "not for you" Seattle 11/6/00 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 14:47:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Little Bird Subject: Re: David Sanborn covers "Man From Mars" > Looks like MfM is the cover of choice on > TTT! :~) This will probably make Bob squirm in his seat but I think Bjork would do an absolutely incredible cover of this song. It's as if it was written for her, in fact. Hey, she's a Scorpio too. And I'm sure she likes cats. - -Andrew __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 21:04:54 -0400 From: "Maggie McNally" Subject: RE: wedding song I've got to get out of this office and go home to rest, but I was trying to wade through the always-present backlog and spotted a few wedding song messages. First of all MG, CONGRATS! I had no idea. When Alex and I were married (more than 12 years ago, now), I wanted a Joni song - and had a friend who was game to sing/play guitar for whatever I wanted. I had her do "Love," the standard wedding reading. I know, not Joni's words, but she had the courage to take them and make them her own. I regret to say that I don't have a recording of my dear friend Linda singing that song just for us, but it resonated for us right through to this day. BTW, I was just in NYC for a family wedding and got to see Patrick (hi, Patrick!) and Kay (ditto!) for an evening. Patrick is a fantastic NYC tour guide, and the two of them were just fabulous to hang and be in the big, fast city with. Then the next day I was on to the wedding where the bride's cousin read the Corinthian's reading on which "Love" was based. Now that I have turned it full circle, may I go home? Maggie Please come to Jonifest!! -----Original Message----- From: mia ortlieb [mailto:hvnphun16@hotmail.com] Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2003 11:51 AM To: MGVal@aol.com Cc: joni@smoe.org Subject: re:wedding song Hi MG, Have you considered playing "Underneath the Streetlight" for your wedding? This is a very upbeat love song, and it won't offend any wise guys that may be sitting in the Chapel. Lyrics: Yes I do I love you! I swear on the stars above I do! I swear on the streetlight on the corner Shoving back the shadows! One shadow cursing Another shadow laughing Underneath the streetlight I don't know where they're coming from I just see 'em passing Underneath the streetlight Yes I do I love you! I swear on the buildings above I do I swear on a billion yellow And T.V. blue windows Gayboys with their pants so tight Out in the neon light Underneath the street light A m-m-madman - madman Kicking over garbage cans Underneath the streetlight Yes I do I love you! I swear on the blinkin' planes above I do I swear on the truck at the stoplight With his airbrakes moaning All night the trucks roll Up to the tunnel-toll Underneath the streetlight They come rollin' rollin' Rollin' for a living Underneath the streetlight Yes I do I love you! I swear on the disco sparkle dark I do I swear on the be-bop boys Chasing the black bird Rock 'n roll broadcast Movin' up now full blast Underneath the streetlight They come dancin' dancin' Really rock 'n rollin' Underneath the streetlight Yes I do I love you I really love you Yes I do yes I do I love you! Mia _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 19:38:48 -0700 From: "Kerry Berghoff" Subject: "That Song About the Midway" Hello all! After reading about people's favorite Joni covers, I had to chime in with those of you who love Bonnie Raitt's version of "That Song About the Midway" and confess to a moment of naiveti. I remember the first time I heard it (well, maybe the second), thinking about how clever and vivid the lyrics are, and I thought how Joni-esque the song is. especially the line about "he stood out like a ruby in a black man's ear." Then I found out that Joni had written it! Duh! Happy listening, Kerry ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 19:53:19 -0700 From: "Kerry Berghoff" Subject: Wedding march MG- After reading your posting about using a Joni song for your march, possibly "Love," I went and listened to it again, and it seems like a great choice. Beautiful and slow, upbeat, and with a wonderful message. Sounds like a very original and meaningful idea. Best of luck and congrats! Kerry ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 23:09:29 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: David Sanborn covers "Man From Mars" In a message dated 5/12/2003 5:54:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time, littlebird3333@yahoo.com writes: > This will probably make Bob squirm in his seat but I > think Bjork would do an absolutely incredible cover of > this song. It's as if it was written for her, in fact. > I actually have a broad mind...I've heard some Bjork stuff that I like. I think many of Joni's songs would suit her. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 23:13:52 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: And how great is this lyric? "Love's a repetitious danger" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 23:18:54 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: And how great is this lyric? She sorta got that from the I Ching...but i concur it's great...and so feckin true I ain't accustomed to it yet r u? btw...I actually spoke to the Blindman on the phone today...we're makin' progress....;~) In the morning there are lovers in the street They look so high You brush against a stranger And you both apologize ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 23:21:07 EDT From: Bobsart48@aol.com Subject: Re: Little Green/Circle Game Thanks for the 'guess' and the extra info, Bob. My weak and lazy mind was finally sufficiently humiliated that I began the heavy research and discovered the Circle Game was copyrighted in 166, while Little Green was 1967. Sounds like you are right (I doubt that by then Joni wasted any time copyrighting her songs before they got 'covered' :-) ). Still, that said, I thought there might have been some evidence to that contrary, such as Little Green having been recorded on a bootleg from the Coffe House era, before Circle Game. Also, Circle Game was recorded before Little Green, which is why I felt disappointed for a long time with Little Green - it felt like an inferior 'copy' of the first, that disappointing 'repeating the formula' thing that Joni is so well known for eschewing. That changed for me when I later came to understand the lyrical significance of Little Green. I did not know about the medley. They are more that in the same tuning - they have very, very similar chord structures. At times you could simpley toggle from one song to the next, if you felt like it. Bobsart Bob Muller replied I certainly don't know for sure...my guess would be "Circle Game", although she may have written the two pretty much simultaneously. They're written in the same tuning...at least they seem to be; she's performed the two as a medley which is very moving. If they are in the same tuning originally, that's possibly an indication that they were written about the same time. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 00:23:11 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: And how great is this lyric? that line is such a favorite that in my wild days i used to write it on walls and carve it on tables. you know, restrooms, school desks, park benches. GRAFFITI too! what an extraordinary youngster i used to be. w - -----Mensaje original----- De: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]En nombre de SCJoniGuy@aol.com Enviado el: Martes, 13 de Mayo de 2003 12:14 a.m. Para: joni@smoe.org Asunto: And how great is this lyric? "Love's a repetitious danger" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 02:03:46 -0400 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Library Links: May 13 On May 13 the following items were published: 1972: "Joni Overcomes Disaster Threat" - Sounds (Review - Concert) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=343 1972: "Priestess Joni" - Melody Maker (Review - Concert) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=181 1998: "Here Come the Women, Pens at the Ready" - Edmonton Sun (Biography, with photographs) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=229 1998: "Triple Bill Thrill" - Edmonton Sun (Review - Concert) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=102 2000: "Joni Mitchell Comes Home Again" - CheckOut.com (Review - Concert) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=542 ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2003 #160 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? 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