From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2003 #131 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Monday, April 14 2003 Volume 2003 : Number 131 Sign up now for JoniFest 2003! http://www.jonifest.com ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2003 #127 [PassScribe@aol.com] Re: Another view on WOHAM [PassScribe@aol.com] Re: Extra ticket for Todd [PassScribe@aol.com] Re: spirituality & Joni [SoulQuest7@aol.com] I's A Muggin' [hell ] RE: spirituality & Joni ["Robert Argento" ] Today's Library Links: April 14 [ljirvin@jmdl.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 21:24:55 EDT From: PassScribe@aol.com Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2003 #127 In a message dated 4/12/03 11:01:35 PM, anima_rising@yahoo.ca writes: << When we moved into that neighbourhood, there were certain things you weren't "allowed" to do - the one that stands out most for me was, you weren't allowed to have a clothesline, because they were too unsightly or something. All the cable and phone lines were buried underground, so they didn't want any lines and wires messing things up. You were allowed to have one of those rotary things that turn around like a pinwheel, but no clothesline. There were a few other stupid and snooty things, but I don't remember them much now and I'm talking about local neighbourhood "rules" as opposed to municipal bylaws, some of which can also be pretty weird in some communities. Then again, there are neighbourhoods where even the colours you use to paint your house have to be approved. >> Yeah; in Levittown (the famous community that so many others were modeled after) you weren't allowed to have any FENCES (at least between the properties) which I only found out about lately as it has become a BIG issue. Lots of folks have above ground pools in their yards and Nassau County law states it must have a certain type & size fence around it (to keep little kids from getting into & drowning). But since the community runes state "no fences" there has been a big debate raging. And isn't there a commercial or something about people putting up a clothesline & the neighbors calling the cops and the cops coming and calling through a loudspeaker, "Remove the clothesline NOW" or something? I remember some kind of skit like that on TV recently. In Freeport, here on Long Island, they passed a law that if you don't maintain your property, the town will come & cut your lawn if it's over a certain height & bill you for it. Some of these laws and regulations arise from a minority of people who neglect their property or do outlandish things to their homes which either piss off the neighbors or devalue the neighborhood so, in some cases, I can see their point. I mean, I've seen some houses which I definately wouldn't want to live next to. (I know this ain't Joni related (not even LONI related) but it's between fans, right? Kenny B ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 22:15:16 EDT From: PassScribe@aol.com Subject: Re: Another view on WOHAM In a message dated 4/12/03 8:48:57 PM, Don Rowe writes: << Thought I'd chime in with my dos pesos on WOHAM. That's quite a bit ($2.00) most people only give their dos centavos' worth (just kiddin', Don.) but not very much new light was shed on Joni's life and career. For a lot of Joni fans, like myself (who haven't been exposed to as much as many of you that have frequented this site for a long time) I learned quite a bit. But, yes; by and large, it was a tribute more than anything else. In the end it was pretty much a recitation of the chatper-and-verse POV. For instance: Joni appears on the music scene in the late 60s like some mythical Athena -- born fully formed from the skulls of Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young. They DID cover her early years as a child in Canada, her polio, etc.; I thought that was pretty informative. We then spend nearly 1/3 of the film examining Joni's first four records, and her affair with Nash. By the time we get to Woodstock, there's barely an hour left to cover those 30+ "other years" ... Sure; I'd have loved for it to have been longer and more "in-depth" but, as you've inplied, this was geared to more than just her deeply-dedicated fans. And now I believe I shall duck and cover! ;-) Don Rowe No need to; we're all entitled to our dos centavos' worth. Even dos pesos' worth! Kenny B ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 22:15:51 EDT From: PassScribe@aol.com Subject: Re: Extra ticket for Todd In a message dated 4/12/03 8:48:57 PM, les@jmdl.com writes: << Subject: Re: Ute and Joni THE BOTTOM LINE NYC http://www.bottomlinecabaret.com/ SAT APR 19 UTE LEMPER E-mail Reservations are being accepted for this performance One Show Only - Doors Open 6PM for 8PM Show All Seats $30.00 Any JMDLers up for this? Lemme know rosie in nj NP: DJRD >> Hey, all; I just realized that I have an extra ticket for Todd Rundgren at Town Hall in Manhattan on Wed, April 23rd. My wife is not going to be up for it (having just had the operation for a detached retina.) If anyone wants it for my cost (about $50 with all the damn TicketMaster fees and such, please let me know. It would be better to be sitting next to a fellow Joni fan than a TOTAL stranger if I have to sell it out front of the place. Kenny B ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 23:17:39 EDT From: SoulQuest7@aol.com Subject: Re: spirituality & Joni In a message dated 4/13/2003 4:37:03 PM Pacific Daylight Time, guitarzan@direcpc.com writes: > < called her a Buddhist. > RR>>> Well, that may explain her reference to Chogyam Trumpa, the Tibetan Buddhist teacher that was an inspiration to so many poets. He has a center in Boulder. I think it was Allen Ginsberg that discovered him on the streets in New York. He was popular amongst the artists scene. He wrote some books, the most popular was called "Cutting Through Spiritual Materialism." I haven't read them because I'm more interested in Hinduism. He died in the 80s I think. ==- om==- Nick ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 20:47:35 -0700 (PDT) From: hell Subject: I's A Muggin' I was browsing the JMDL articles today, and found something interesting (at least I thought it was.....) If you look at the photograph accompanying the article "Joni Mitchell Makes Mingus Sing", from Downbeat, Sep. 6, 1979 (http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=95) you'll see a startling similarity to Joni's painting "I's a Muggin'" displayed in the article about the Starart book (http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=370 - you'll need to scroll down to the bottom of the page). I assume Joni used this photograph as the "template" (for want of a better word) for this painting? I know she uses this method (and I've used it myself), ie. taking photographs and then painting from that image, rather than the "real-life" subject. The only difference is that her face is in a different position, and Charles Mingus' head is turned the other way - but even the blanket is the same! It's amazing what you can discover browing those articles! Also, those people recently discussing Joni's attitude to other performers (particularly young female artists) might want to read Les Irvin's very well-written encounter with Joni - in which she discusses this very subject. You can find it at http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=171 Hell ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 00:28:00 -0400 From: "Robert Argento" Subject: RE: spirituality & Joni Joni spent part of '76, I believe, in Boulder at the Institute. I was there a short time in March 1977 and she had been there earlier. She comments upon her stay there in the opening verse of "Refuge of the Roads". Chogyam Trumpa was quite a drinker and womanizer. Strange that after my time there, when it was time to move on, I had the same sort of feeling that Joni presented in ROTR a year or so later. Spiritualism? I would probably guess her to be more philosophically Buddhist than religiously so. By the way, would you say that Allen Ginsberg that discovered him on the streets in New York or that Chugyan Trumpa discovered Ginsburg? Robban > -----Original Message----- > From: les@jmdl.com [mailto:les@jmdl.com] On Behalf Of > SoulQuest7@aol.com > Sent: den 13 april 2003 23:18 > To: guitarzan@direcpc.com; joni@smoe.org > Subject: Re: spirituality & Joni > > > In a message dated 4/13/2003 4:37:03 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > guitarzan@direcpc.com writes: > > > > < called her > > a Buddhist. > > RR>>> > > Well, that may explain her reference to Chogyam Trumpa, the > Tibetan Buddhist > teacher that was an inspiration to so many poets. He has a center in > Boulder. I think it was Allen Ginsberg that discovered him > on the streets in > New York. He was popular amongst the artists scene. He > wrote some books, > the most popular was called "Cutting Through Spiritual > Materialism." I > haven't read them because I'm more interested in Hinduism. > He died in the > 80s I think. ==- om==- Nick ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 02:03:33 -0400 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Library Links: April 14 On April 14 the following items were published: 1997: "My other mom's an icon" - Time Australia (Reunion Story) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=794 2000: "On the Tube" - Pittsburgh Post-Gazette (Review - Appearance) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=724 2000: "TV News Today" - MSNBC.com (Interview) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=498 ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2003 #131 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)