From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2003 #111 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Wednesday, April 2 2003 Volume 2003 : Number 111 Sign up now for JoniFest 2003! http://www.jonifest.com ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Joni dream [Chorando6@aol.com] RE: Joni Special: WEDNESDAY NIGHT !! [Deb Messling ] Re: Joni Special: WEDNESDAY NIGHT !! [Deb Messling ] SONG TO A SEAGULL [Cactustree78@aol.com] Re: STAS memories [Catherine McKay ] RE: Joni Special: WEDNESDAY NIGHT !! [Catherine McKay ] Re: Song to a Seagull [AsharaJM@aol.com] Re: sisotowbell lane and misheard lyrics [AsharaJM@aol.com] Re: Joni, then and now [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: sisotowbell lane and misheard lyrics [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Joni the cover girl [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] RE: Joni dream ["theodore" ] Re: sisotowbell lane and misheard lyrics [AsharaJM@aol.com] Re: Sisotowbell Lane [Bob Shemkovitz ] thanks Les! [anne@sandstrom.com] Re: thanks Les! [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Joni Special: WEDNESDAY NIGHT !! [Doug ] Re: Joni, then and now [Little Bird ] Re: Joni, then and now [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: sisotowbell lane and misheard lyrics [magsnbrei ] Joni's PBS special [Aerchak@aol.com] Re: Joni, then and now ["mack watson-bush" ] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2003 #108 [PassScribe@aol.com] Sarah Maclachlan version of Blue [emil thompson ] Re: Sarah Maclachlan version of Blue [Little Bird ] Joni Special: WEDNESDAY NIGHT !! ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: Joni Special: WEDNESDAY NIGHT !! [Doug ] Re: Joni Special: WEDNESDAY NIGHT !! [Randy Remote ] Re: Sarah Maclachlan version of Blue [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] joni special wednesday night sjc ["joe farrell" ] RE: Joni Special: WEDNESDAY NIGHT !! ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: Joni Special: WEDNESDAY NIGHT !! [Michael Paz ] Re: [NortheastJonifest] march 30!!!!!!! [Michael Paz ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 04:05:48 EST From: Chorando6@aol.com Subject: Joni dream well, I dont get it but some one out there may. Last night i dreamt I was in a meeting with Susan Sarandon, whats hername Anders and a joni lookilikey. All three were talking about films they were making of joni's life. They were all arguing about the authenticity of their interpretations and the closeness to the reality of jonis life. In the dream I found myself warming to Susan Sarandon, who kept saying 'though she had the clout of hollywood behind her and a big budget, she wouldnt let that affect her realistic and gritty approach.' Alison Anders was a bit snooty and kept telling everyone she had jonis approval and shaking her head in a knowing way. I have jonis approval...I have jonis approval. In the dream I wanted to hit her. The lookilikey sort of became joni and just stood there. Then somehow Helena bonham Carter appeared and started talking about joni the actress and said that she played her husband in Planet of the apes. Then I was looking at a big screen of Helena bonham carter talking to Joni in an ape outfit. You could tell it was joni cos the ape had very light blonde hair. They were talking about ways of letting the others know. Who the others were and what it was they wanted to let them know is beyond me...and then i woke up. Am I mad? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 05:46:10 -0500 From: Deb Messling Subject: RE: Joni Special: WEDNESDAY NIGHT !! Two hours? In my TV guide it says 90 minutes! Am I getting an edited version? At 11:46 PM 3/31/2003 -0500, you wrote: >I dunno. All of the pre-press says that PBS is going to show the full 2 >hours in one straight shot. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Deb Messling -^..^- messling@enter.net - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 05:49:35 -0500 From: Deb Messling Subject: Re: Joni Special: WEDNESDAY NIGHT !! The American Masters web site has been promising: Watch this space in April 2003 for upcoming features, including essays, film clips, filmmaker interview, and an interactive timeline. Okay, it's April. Where are my essays, etc? See http://www.pbs.org/wnet/americanmasters/database/mitchell_j.html At 11:35 PM 3/31/2003 -0500, you wrote: >In the USA, Joni's being recognized as an "American Master" on Wednesday >night. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Deb Messling -^..^- messling@enter.net - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 06:53:29 -0500 From: Cactustree78@aol.com Subject: SONG TO A SEAGULL Just wanted to throw my couple cents in on this...This is truly one of Joni's masterpieces(along with the rest)for a debut album(or for any album) its so powerful...sensual..intense..romantic...loving..fearful..so may different emotions...But then again ms joni can take volumes worth of feelings and put them into one sentence..thats one of her greatest gifts...Night in the City is my fave on the whole thing followed by the Dawntreader...both affect me in different ways..dawntreader makes me wanna cry(just the purity of her voice..and the complexity of the music/lyric) Night makes me wanna get the hell outta jersy cross the bridge and make my way to the big apple....I had a king.. is pretty rad.. but. Michael from mountains..WOW...i can write more, maybe i will tonight, but im leavin work now..07:00 sharp!(graveyard shift :P Hope you all have a terrific day!! ****kevin**** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 06:59:13 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: STAS memories --- BRIANASYMES@aol.com wrote: > I think the nimble fingers on Song to the Seagull > could be turned into a > concerto by say Christopher Parkening. I hear this too and wish my guitar playing/composing were good enough to play what I can hear in my head. ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 07:26:15 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: RE: Joni Special: WEDNESDAY NIGHT !! --- "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" wrote: > I dunno. All of the pre-press says that PBS is > going to show the full 2 > hours in one straight shot. > > 1. If that's so, then the PBS version has more than > two subtitles. In the > PR, my local affiliate calls Wednesday night's show, > 'Joni Mitchell: Chords > of Inquiry'. There is a Joni-quote in Woman of blah-blah where she's talking about her weird tunings and calls them "Chords of Inquiry." This may have been a working title. Apparently, as you point out, there were a few before they settled on something (maybe "settled" like a fly, for a nano-second, before "settling" on something else.) > But then in the schedule they call it 'American > Masters: Joni Mitchell: > Woman of Heart and Mind "Joni Mitchell: Chords of > Inquiry"' and show what > appears to show a 75minute slot on Wednesday night. > That doesn't match the > PR for the USA version (a single two-hour block) nor > does it support 2 > one-hour segments that Canada got. The Canadian version was shown in two one-hour pieces. There was an intro by Anne Marie McDonald (no relation to Ronald), a Canadian writer and actor - this would have been CBC's own thing. There were also commercial breaks (done in tasteful and logical places so, even though they were commercials, they didn't annoy as much as they usually do - when I say "tasteful and logical", it's along the lines of, well, if I must be tortured, then I'm so glad they're playing that nice music in the background feeling you get when you're at the dentist.) That should bring total running time of the film itself under 90 minutes. I understood the CBC version did cut a bit from the "other" version. I don't know where I read that, but it wouldn't surprise me, since the CRTC allows more commercials per hour than US television does and there's always a minute or two missing from the Simpsons as aired on Canadian TV compared to what airs on US TV - sometimes it's glaringly obvious that something's missing, but most of the time, it's not noticeable (unless you happen to catch the same episode on a US channel and wonder how you happened to miss that part.) What worries me most is the possibility of a 75-minute time slot. It would be so like PBS to stick a pledge-raising thing in there somewhere to bring total running time to 90 or 120. I plan to tape this puppy (whether it ends up being the same as what I already taped off CBC or not) and since I will be taping off my TV at work (it's brand new and its VCR works exactly as it should), I'd be really disappointed to have the whines of "your phone call could make the difference" and "we'll shut up as soon as we've got $10,000 in pledges, so c'mon now and call us at 1-800-bla-blah right now and we can get back to Joni Mitchell!" in the middle of it. ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 07:33:57 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: re: sisotowbell lane --- frasere@intergate.ca wrote: > From my take on things Catherine, sounds like you > know the Saskatchewan way of > life rather well. The berries surely were Saskatoon > Berries. I am told they > make the most magnificent pies! > Sure you've never lived there? I never lived there, but I lived in small-town northern Ontario (northern by Toronto standards, but not by Northern Ontario - capital N for a reason - standards) 'til I was 12. We lived right on the edge of town with free run of all the farmer's fields and we'd disappear all day running around like maniacs out there. If you went not too far out of town, there were hills and woods. My Dad's company owned a cabin out in the woods and we'd go there for weekends sometimes. There was no electricity out there. At first the ight came from kerosene lamps and the fridge was a real Ice box - you'd have to go into the village and get a big chunk of ice that would last a few days. There was a big old wood stove - bacon and eggs never tasted better than when they were made on the wood stove. There was a gas-powered generator that was used for getting running water from a well or maybe from right out in the middle of the lake (which is most likely polluted now, but it wasn't then.) You could walk through the woods and pick blueberries, but you had to watch out for bears. There were houses on the drive upthere that could have been right out of the "dueling banjoes" movie (for the life of me, the name escapes me) ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 07:36:49 EST From: AsharaJM@aol.com Subject: Re: Song to a Seagull In a message dated 3/31/2003 9:36:28 AM Eastern Standard Time, bshemkovitz@bozzutos.com writes: > Song to a Seagull is a thing of rare beauty. Joni is absolutely ethereal > throughout. > I agree. This is the album that got me hooked onto Joni. I was hanging with my cousin and she had this album on her little "record player in a box". (Anyone remember those?) At 12 years old, I stopped dead in my tracks and said, "WHO *IS* THAT?????????? The love affair has still lasted all these years. :-) Hugs, Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 08:07:37 EST From: AsharaJM@aol.com Subject: Re: sisotowbell lane and misheard lyrics I love everyone's take on Sisotowbell Lane. That's one of the things I like best about the list- the analyzing of the lyrics, and the different takes on it. I am definitely a "music first" kind of gal. I get so engrossed in the music, I don't often read the lyrics to songs, yes that includes Joni's. (Maggie and many others have already given me untold grief about this.) It is SO bad that I think I have mondegreened at least one line in almost every single Joni song she has written. I wasn't going to post some of these for fear of being the laughing stock on the list, but what the hell.........here's a gift of laughter in the midst of what is going on in the world right now. I think we could all use a laugh. (By the way not only do they not make any sense, but most of them aren't even real words!!) {sigh} Misheard: "And the Lord under throw" Actual: "And the Lord on Death Row" From: "The Same Situation" Misheard: "I'll even kiss a sunset pink" Actual: "I'll even kiss a sunset pig" From: "California" (at least this one was close!) Misheard: "In Conapin" (I wondered where Conapin was on the map!) Actual: "ink on a pin" From: "Blue" Misheard: "Now the warriors of winter gave a dreary on thunder shout" Actual: "Now the warriors of winter gave a cold triumphant shout" From: "Urge For Going" There are many more where that came from, but I won't embarrass myself further. Speaking of smiles, if you haven't signed up yet for Jonifest, this might be a great time to do it! Plans are moving along for the best Jonifest yet, and I think we could all use a little music and smiles in our lives soon! All the best to you. Hugs, Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 08:29:45 -0500 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni, then and now In a message dated 3/31/2003 11:15:07 PM Eastern Standard Time, littlebird3333@yahoo.com writes: > It depends on what you consider to be "the pop world." > Joni made the comments in reference to radio play, of > which she gets none. In that sense, the pop world has > indeed shunned her. Where is she on the dial? Nowhere. And she's in good company. Most of the music I like is not on the radio, hasn't been for about 20 years. She certainly doesn't pander > to the radio formula and never has. This is false. She admits that she wrote "You Turn Me On I'm A Radio" specifically to get airplay, even filling the song with catch phrases to get DJ's to use them on air. Further to that, in her early days she was proud of the fact that her songs were getting airplay (by way of George Hamilton IV, Tom Rush, Ian & Sylvia), so her desire to be commercial has never been well-masked. > Frankly I like it when Joni whines. There are lots of people who would love to have had a career in the arts as she has had. Lots. Her talent and accomplishments have been recognized as much as, if not more than, her peers. Bob NP: Joni, "Dreamland" Forest Hills 8/25/79 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 08:38:11 -0500 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: sisotowbell lane and misheard lyrics In a message dated 4/1/2003 8:07:37 AM Eastern Standard Time, AsharaJM writes: > I wasn't going to post some of these for > fear of being the laughing stock on the list, but what the > hell......... Naw, we've all done it, Ashara...my dumbest one was this one, from "In France They Kiss On Main Street"..."Liquid Melvin" instead of "Leadfoot Melvin". "Liquid Melvin"???? In YOUR words...WHAT was I thinking? Oy! Laughing it all away, Bob NP: Joni, "Furry Sings The Blues" 8/25/79 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 08:46:58 -0500 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Joni the cover girl Warren in UNJC-land, eat your heart out! If you lived in Detroit, not only would you be getting the PBS special in all its glory, you'd have a TV guide with Joni on the cover. I've got a scan of it for anybody who's interested. Deb, I'm automatically sending it to you! :~) Bob NP: Joni, "God Must Be A Boogie Man" 8/25/79 [demime 0.97c removed an attachment of type image/pjpeg which had a name of Joni-TV Guide.JPG] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 05:53:12 -0800 From: "theodore" Subject: RE: Joni dream Of course you are not mad. All three women represent the transformation of your soul in different stages of a spiritual journey. The representation of Joni being their ultimate goal. Three different roads to ultimately becoming joni. Susan Sarandon represents you pleasing everyone, taking the well worn path that others may expect of you. Alison Anders is your inner child. You resist her because even though she has Joni's approval, you fear reprisal. Bonham Carter is the solution she is the incarnation that allows you to blend the two and achieve your goal ... not a perfect Joni, but, one that represents where you are in your spiritual growth. The others are those who you are afraid will not accept your half formed state. Who perhaps depend on your maturity, look up to you, pieces of yourself really. It is also interesting that the dream revolves around a show or a movie. The others may in fact be the audience that you perceive needs you to perform in a prescribed way. This dream is telling you it's ok to be where you are. Susan Sarandon may have the approval of Hollywood, but, the end result is a phony Joni. Take steps to let yourself go and don't worry about appearing childish. Send $75.00 for this e - therapy session to: Just kidding! Ted - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com] On Behalf Of Chorando6@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 1:06 AM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: Joni dream well, I dont get it but some one out there may. Last night i dreamt I was in a meeting with Susan Sarandon, whats hername Anders and a joni lookilikey. All three were talking about films they were making of joni's life. They were all arguing about the authenticity of their interpretations and the closeness to the reality of jonis life. In the dream I found myself warming to Susan Sarandon, who kept saying 'though she had the clout of hollywood behind her and a big budget, she wouldnt let that affect her realistic and gritty approach.' Alison Anders was a bit snooty and kept telling everyone she had jonis approval and shaking her head in a knowing way. I have jonis approval...I have jonis approval. In the dream I wanted to hit her. The lookilikey sort of became joni and just stood there. Then somehow Helena bonham Carter appeared and started talking about joni the actress and said that she played her husband in Planet of the apes. Then I was looking at a big screen of Helena bonham carter talking to Joni in an ape outfit. You could tell it was joni cos the ape had very light blonde hair. They were talking about ways of letting the others know. Who the others were and what it was they wanted to let them know is beyond me...and then i woke up. Am I mad? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 08:59:29 EST From: AsharaJM@aol.com Subject: Re: sisotowbell lane and misheard lyrics In a message dated 4/1/2003 8:38:12 AM Eastern Standard Time, SCJoniGuy writes: > Naw, we've all done it, Ashara...my dumbest one was this one, from "In > France They Kiss On Main Street"..."Liquid Melvin" instead of "Leadfoot > Melvin". > Uh.......I did this one too. {blushing} Hugs, Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 09:20:34 -0500 From: Bob Shemkovitz Subject: Re: Sisotowbell Lane Mia wrote: > I alway thought that Joni was referencing a time or a place for pregnant unwed > mothers... The biggest clue that I see is the repeated reference to "rocking > chairs"... Also, the last line "we wait for you" indicates to me that the > character is just waiting out the time until the baby is born. > > This is such a lovely song, with such unique guitar fingering. I'm with Mssr's Muller & Murphy on this one - DUH! How obvious... but only after it's been pointed out to me! Thanks for your insight, Mia. I think Andrew's interpretation is valid, too, when he says Joni is singing about an ideal lifestyle lived in an idyllic place. But I think it's very likely that this particular place is indeed a home for unwed mothers that Joni knew of, whether or not she ever lived there herself. Also, I think I know what Andrew is getting at here, but I have another take on it: > Also, the rocking chair reference doesn't quite fit the pregnancy theme > either, only because it seems to be used in rotation: "Each of us rocks his > share." Somehow the idea of a fictional world of pregnant mothers waiting in > rocking chairs for their kids to be born doesn't seem like the crux of this > song to me. If that were the case, wouldn't it be "rocks HER share?" Not necessarily - remember this was recorded in 1968, before the feminist movement of the 70's and the subsequent changes in the use of personal pronouns. In books and movies from that time, you often see "he" and "his" and "himself" used as third-person references to women. That seems archaic now, but I suspect "rocks HER share" would have sounded jarring to many people back then. Remember, Joni does say "we have a rocking chair" - she's including herself in the group, yet she still says "his", because at that time it was the accepted way of speaking. (As for using the chair in rotation, I think it's because there's only one: the lyric is "we have A rocking chair.") And I agree that this is one of the loveliest songs on the album. Counting the hours til Woman Of Heart & Mind & Lots & Lots Of Subtitles ;) Bob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 06:41:02 -0800 (PST) From: anne@sandstrom.com Subject: thanks Les! A big thank you to Les for setting up the music sharing stuff. I don't quite understand it all, but maybe once I use it it will become clear. Joni content: Is it possible to make the tape/CD tree stuff available using this method? (Maybe it's up there already?) I would think it would be a great way to share Joni stuff. Just a thought... and I'll just say the word "covers" and run for - cover LOL (Hi Bob!) looking forward to tomorrow night's special. Lama, you're right about the subtitles. It's kinda like x=y=z :-) lots of love Anne ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 10:15:20 -0500 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: thanks Les! In a message dated 4/1/2003 9:41:02 AM Eastern Standard Time, anne@sandstrom.com writes: > I would think it would be a great way to > share Joni stuff. I think that's the intent. Just a thought... and I'll just say > the word "covers" and run for - cover LOL (Hi Bob!) Hi Anne! I would hope that it can be set up for people to pick & choose and make their own collections as they see fit. It won't change what I'm doing now in terms of making compilation cd's, only add some flexibility for those who want it. And speaking of covers, and aren't I always, I'll unveil Volume 39 today and also announce NEW & exciting ways to win your own copy! Bob NP: Joni, "Just Like This Train" San Francisco 9/8/79 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 10:49:57 -0500 From: Doug Subject: Re: Joni Special: WEDNESDAY NIGHT !! The reason the Canadian version was two hours long was so that we in Canada could have the privelege of watching a half hour of commercials. ;-) Doug Deb Messling wrote: >Two hours? In my TV guide it says 90 minutes! Am I getting an edited version? > > >At 11:46 PM 3/31/2003 -0500, you wrote: > > > >>I dunno. All of the pre-press says that PBS is going to show the full 2 >>hours in one straight shot. >> >> > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Deb Messling -^..^- >messling@enter.net >---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 08:03:47 -0800 (PST) From: Little Bird Subject: Re: Joni, then and now >> she certainly doesn't pander >> to the radio formula and never has. > This is false. She admits that she wrote "You Turn > Me On I'm A Radio" specifically to get airplay, > even filling the song with catch phrases to get DJ's > to use them on air. At David Geffen's serious urging. She did it sort of grudgingly, I think. Even this attempt was almost tongue-in-cheek: radio towers, transiters, Breafast Barney, sign-off prayer. It's so over the top "radio" that it's like, "Okay - you want a radio hit? Here!" And the DJs just don't get it. They play it because even in its irony it fits the radio format. > Further to that, in her early days she was proud of > the fact that her songs were getting airplay (by way > of George Hamilton IV, Tom Rush, Ian & Sylvia), so > her desire to be commercial has never been > well-masked. Which is why she started whining when her air play suddenly stopped. She certainly has never stopped writing the way she wants to write simply to get air play. That's what I was getting at. > There are lots of people who would love to have had > a career in the arts as she has had. Lots. Her > talent and accomplishments have been recognized as > much as, if not more than, her peers. Oh, she knows that: "As a standard-setter in my art, I'm not uncomfortable with that." She's played with some of the best in the business and she acknowledges that but, as she says, where art meets commerce it's always tricky. I'm just trying to play Joni's spokesperson here, trying to defend her a bit. I'll be shutting up now. - -Andrew Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://platinum.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 11:26:22 -0500 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni, then and now In a message dated 4/1/2003 11:03:47 AM Eastern Standard Time, littlebird3333@yahoo.com writes: > I'm just trying to play Joni's spokesperson here, > trying to defend her a bit. I can appreciate that Andrew...just don't lose your objectivity in doing so. Not everything Joni says or does is worth defending. And certainly no need for you to shut up. If I gave the impression that I wanted you to do that, I sincerely apologize. Far from it, I'm lovin' the Joni talk! :~) Bob NP: Joni, "Black Crow" 9/8/79 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 08:37:45 -0800 (PST) From: magsnbrei Subject: Re: sisotowbell lane and misheard lyrics Ashes!!! thanks for sharing...these are very very good. Yes offering up some lightness into these dark days is most welcome!!!! a mondegreen i would like to add: from Song for Sharon: misheard: shine your light on me Mr. Berti. real lyric: shine your light on me Miss Liberty. kinda cute I thought ;-) as for Sisotowbell Lane...I love it too... for that matter , I love the whole album and it continues to grow on me every time I listen. It truly is a lullabye for me. I can visualize Mia's interpretation very clearly. There are hints of this part of Joni's life in so many of her songs. And I can also see Catherine's. I spent many summer holidays and weekends on a farm in southern ontario...and the images that Joni paints in this song are very similar to my memories of sitting in the middle of simpler times...drinking water from a well, pumped by hand, the creaking of old wooden rocking chairs out on the front porch...beautiful wild flowers in the garden...a barn which became everything under the sun that my little girl imagination could conjur up under the heat of summer sun days. My childhood sanctuary, paradise on earth that lives inside me still. My Aunt Laura could have easily been the centre piece of this song. Mags, singing songs of joy and peace :[ You open my heart, you do. Yes you do. - JM Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 12:24:51 EST From: Aerchak@aol.com Subject: Joni's PBS special In NY it's listed as 90 minutes from 9:00 to 10:30 Can't wait. Andrea in Saratoga Springs ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 12:18:57 -0600 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: Re: Joni, then and now Yes Andrew, keep posting. I tried to take it away from the Iraq thing with my Grassroots question but had no takers and then, against my better judgment, even posted on the mess myself. Love the Joni threads and your point of view is as valid as anyone else's, and always good to read. And I love it when folks defend our Joan. Bob seems kind of scary at first but he's not really. lol. mack. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 13:32:13 EST From: PassScribe@aol.com Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2003 #108 Hi, guys I've been sick so haven't been reading all the latest Joni news but, just in case you are not aware, PBS (at least in the New York/metro area) is showing a 90 min special on Joni at 9:00 PM Wednesday night. I'm sure everyone who cares will probably know by now, but just in case someone has been "out of touch" like me.... Ken ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 19:38:12 +0000 From: emil thompson Subject: Sarah Maclachlan version of Blue I heard that this verion of the song 'Blue' was not on the US release of the album 'Fumbling towards ecstacy' is this true, I have the Uk one here and it's a beautiful track and album. Also re STAS after reading David Crosby's biography he spoke of the mess he made of the production on that albume and how they had to strip away all the extra mics on the piano but even so it sounds like it is recorded under a belljar. I think it sounds ok but I know what he means. best emil uk ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 11:41:51 -0800 (PST) From: Little Bird Subject: Re: Sarah Maclachlan version of Blue - --- emil thompson wrote: > I heard that this verion of the song 'Blue' was not > on the US release > of the album 'Fumbling towards ecstacy' is this > true, I have the Uk > one here and it's a beautiful track and album. It was released as a b-side on one of her singles. Not sure which one... - -Andrew Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://platinum.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 12:15:07 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Joni dream i have heard many say that dreams are really about you...the characters in the dream are really elements of yourself...so given that info, maybe you can interpret your dream in that light ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 12:15:18 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Joni Special: WEDNESDAY NIGHT !! >Okay, it's April. Where are my essays, etc?< maybe its their april fools joke... unfortunately i'm producing a show tonight & will miss this show :~{ so, if anyone knows of a rebroadcast of this show please let me know! otherwise i will wait for the dvd... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 15:52:44 -0500 From: Doug Subject: Re: Joni Special: WEDNESDAY NIGHT !! The show will be repeated four times on PBS' C-Band satellite channel (transponder 18): April 2 9:00 PM April 3 11:00AM and 4:00AM April 5 8:00PM Just in case you know anyone with one of those hughmungus* dishes *my spell checker dosen't have that word (of course maybe someone could send you a tape) Doug Kate Bennett wrote: >>Okay, it's April. Where are my essays, etc?< >> >> > >maybe its their april fools joke... > >unfortunately i'm producing a show tonight & will miss this show :~{ > >so, if anyone knows of a rebroadcast of this show please let me know! >otherwise i will wait for the dvd... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 12:54:55 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: Joni Special: WEDNESDAY NIGHT !! The San Francisco PBS affiliate, KQED (Ch 9) is quite concise about the length of the program. Here's their blurb: (I didn't know she is a Buddhist, did you?) Joni Mitchell: Woman of Heart and Mind Wed, April 2, 2003 -- 9:00pm Duration: 1:26:46 CC ST The daughter of a grocery store manager and a teacher in Canada, Joni Mitchell is now a US citizen, a Buddhist, a poet and a painter, whose heroes are Miles Davis, Pablo Picasso and Georgia O'Keeffe. Uncompromising and iconoclastic, Mitchell has confounded expectations at every turn - wildly innovative, her music evolved from deeply personal folk into pop, jazz and avant-garde, prophetic of the multi- cultural experimentation of the `80s and `90s. Fiercely independent, she resisted the whims of mainstream audiences and the male-dominated recording industry. Mitchell's records may never have sold as widely as some of her contemporaries, but no one experimented so recklessly or so bravely explored territory outside of accepted pop music. They also have a link for further information with a page of text. They incorrectly site her first album as "Joni Mitchell" released in 1967 [it was '68]: http://www.pbs.org/wnet/americanmasters/database/mitchell_j.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 16:08:28 EST From: Warrenkeith91354@aol.com Subject: UNCTV... we want joni...let them know !!! I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it !!! I'm assuming by now that all " NC Jonies" are aware that UNCTV has chosen not to air the American Masters-Joni . I would urge anyone in their viewing area to voice your displeasure. You can contact them through their website : www.unctv.org or you can call them @ 1-888-292-7070 . I have done both and hope that you will take the time to do the same. I have yet to received a reply to my email which i sent last week, but the woman on the phone said she couldn't find on the schedule in April or May...of all the nerve ! Forgive my rant, I hope you "NC Jonies" will take immediate action and let your voice be heard. Jonily yours, Warren Keith ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 13:08:08 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: a Joni link The KQED site had a link to this Joni fansite by Jorn Barger which, while not as encyclopedic as jm.com, has some interesting stuff: http://www.robotwisdom.com/jorn/joni.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 16:25:15 -0500 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Sarah Maclachlan version of Blue In a message dated 4/1/2003 2:41:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, littlebird3333@yahoo.com writes: > It was released as a b-side on one of her singles. Not > sure which one... And it was included on her CD from 1996 called "Rarities, B-sides, and other stuff. This CD is still in print. I agree that her version of Blue is WONDERFUL! Bob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 22:19:27 +0100 From: "joe farrell" Subject: joni special wednesday night sjc hi, Anybody out there in the USA willing to make me a copy of this Joni tv special pleeease. I'll reimburse tape and shipping costs to the UK. I have ntsc facility on my vcr,so no problems with converting or anything, and i'm deparate to see this having read so much about it on the list after it's showing on CBC. I don't think it will get an airing over here in the near future so put me out of my misery please. Thanks, Joe. np Blue Horse The Be Good Tanyas (brilliant) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 16:47:16 -0500 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: joni special wednesday night sjc In a message dated 4/1/2003 4:19:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, joe.farrell@ukonline.co.uk writes: > Anybody out there in the USA willing to make me a copy of this Joni tv > special pleeease. I'll reimburse tape and shipping costs to > the UK. Joe & whoever, I'm planning on recording it and will be happy to make copies. I'll confirm after the broadcast. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 18:10:22 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: sisotowbell lane and misheard lyrics --- SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: .my dumbest one was > this one, from "In France They Kiss On Main > Street"..."Liquid Melvin" instead of "Leadfoot > Melvin". > > "Liquid Melvin"???? In YOUR words...WHAT was I > thinking? Oy! Liquid Melvin? Melvin sounds like Kelvin. Kelvin invented a system of measuring temperature (called, curiously enough the Kelvin system). Temperatures are measured by liquid going up and down tubes. Liquid Melvin makes sense to me (but then again, I like to think Siquomb is a Haida expression and that a sisotowbell is a kind of flower.) I know there are Joni lyrics I've mis-heard but can't think of any just now. There are probably a good many more that I don't even reaiize (yet) that I've mis-heard. Ignorance is bliss and I'm an April Foole! ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 19:03:24 EST From: OzWoman321@aol.com Subject: Flinty Kind of Woman of Heart and Mind (Dar Williams meets Joni Mitchell... :-) Hello, All - I apologize for posting this too late to be of any help to those who receive the digest but... Dar Williams is scheduled to be on Conan O'Brien this evening! - I am a huge fan of her music, as are many of you who wrote glowingly of her recently... Tonight Dar... tomorrow Joni - life is good (major understatement... :-) Susan http://www.heartsdesireconcerts.com "There's the wind and the rain, and the mercy of the fallen, Who say they have no claim to know what's right. There's the weak and the strong and the many stars that guide us, We have some of them inside us..." ~ Dar Williams ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 19:06:09 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: sisotowbell lane and misheard lyrics --- magsnbrei wrote: > Ashes!!! thanks for sharing...these are very very > good. Yes offering up some lightness into these dark > days is most welcome!!!! > a mondegreen i would like to add: > from Song for Sharon: > misheard: shine your light on me Mr. Berti. > real lyric: shine your light on me Miss Liberty. > kinda cute I thought ;-) I just through of one: I heard: I'm hoarse with travel fever. For: I'm porous with travel fever. from one of those Hejira thingies. ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 19:12:31 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Sarah Maclachlan version of Blue --- Little Bird wrote: > - --- emil thompson wrote: > > I heard that this verion of the song 'Blue' was > not > > on the US release > > of the album 'Fumbling towards ecstacy' is this > > true, I have the Uk > > one here and it's a beautiful track and album. > > It was released as a b-side on one of her singles. > Not > sure which one... It's on "Rarities and B-sides" - I think this is my favourite S MacL album. ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 19:35:41 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: we want joni...let them know !!! Warren and Joe, fear not. One way or another, you're covered. Here in western New York, I mean Southern Ontario, it's sched'd on WNED/Channel 17 (as both "JoniMitchell: a woman of heart and mind" and "Joni Mitchell-Chords of Inquiry") for 9 p.m. tomorrow and then again April 3 at 3:30 a.m. and April 10 at 4 a.m. (for those who stay up really let and those who get up really early, or those whose VCRs are utterly reliable.) Catherine Toronto - --------------------------------- Post your free ad now! Yahoo! Canada Personals ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 19:55:19 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: 39 Steps...to Joni Cover Happiness! Yes, it's no April Fool...I'm REALLY up to Volume #39 of the longest running Tribute CD series on the planet, and this one is the usual collection of bouquets and bumbles, confections & cheeses. Thanks to those who contributed to this volume, and that would be: Ranger Rick Some very nice guy who sent me an mp3 anonymously And here's what's on it: Beth Anne Cole - Barangrill: A very hard-to-find recording, from a Canadian jazz singer. Love the song, love the cover! An especially tasty bit of flute that highlights the lyrics in a fun fashion. Helena - Both Sides Now: Swedish Pop singer from the 60's, looks better than she sounds. Sauce - Tin Angel Sauce - Urge For Going Sauce - Cactus Tree: Sauce is Michael Willson and Beth Rudd, who recorded these tracks on SACD with a single engineer in an old stone church. It gives the songs a lot of reverb and a haunting echo. Very stark - I love 'em but I think I'm probably the only one. Fullerton College Vocal Jazz Ensemble - Both Sides Now: Another so-so entry in the BSN category. YMCA Camp Takodah - The Circle Game: Ya gotta love this one, because it will make you wonder what they were thinking! A bunch of camp kids from Keene, NH singing songs in unison (no harmonies, no accompaniment). I guess it's appropriate that they included this 'campfire' classic, but it'll make Joni change her mind about "The more out of tune voices, the better"... Tony Spinelli - Carey: Speaking of what were they thinking, Tony decides to sing the first couple of lines pretty straight on, then takes off with his own lyrics like he was working from memory. I like his guitar, and this one makes me laugh. Panic Painters - People's Parties:Another VERY rare track from a pop/jazz band from Holland. Sounds a little like Styx. Larry Santos - Both Sides Now: Sounds like Mac Davis, and was going for the look as well, with the leather buckskin vest, pseudo whit-boy afro, and macrame belt. White On Black - Carey: White On Black: Big Yellow Taxi: More rarities, from a 60's/70's UK folk trio. Smyle - Woodstock: Canada's answer to Grand Funk Railroad (admit it, you like Grand Funk), this version has that great classic-rock jam feel to it. Again, a pretty rare cut. J.J. Worthington: Both Sides Now: According to the record jacket, this guy was supposed to be the next big thing. He's OK, but he looks really creepy, gave me the heebie jeebies. Carl Filipaik - Goodbye Pork Pie Hat: Oooooh, you can't help but like this one, a slow-burning sultry saxophone, puts you in the mood, if you know what I mean, bay-bee... The G-Stringers - The Circle Game The G-Stringers - I Had A King: Very early college acapella recording, maybe the first college acapella group to tackle Joni. And I guess it's not TRUE acapella, they have some sparse guitar on here, but it's very nice, wonderful harmonies. Blossom Dearie - Both Sides Now: A pretty nice take on BSN from icon Blossom Dearie, who has this little pixie-ish voice which is very clear & precise. She messes up some of the words, though. Suzanne Stevens - All I Want: From 1977, and sounds like it. Very pleasant, with nice harmonies. Rob McConnell & The Boss Brass - Chelsea Morning: Very nice arrangement from Canadian trombonist & bandleader Rob, who's been steady on the Toronto Jazz circuit forever and a day. Bryan Ferry - You're So Square (Baby I Don't Care): From an early (1973) record from the Roxy Music vocalist - pretty straight up, and over with before you know it. Danny Diaz Trio - Both Sides Now: These guys were like from Hawaii or something. They all looked the same and they all played guitar. They look pretty tough on their LP cover, but they sound pretty wimpy. There it is, in all its glory...22 tracks, 74+ minutes of Joni covers heaven! Bob NP: The White Stripes, "Ball & Biscuit" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 17:47:31 -0800 From: Lindsay Moon Subject: Laurel Canyon director's Joni musing I know someone posted an excerpt of an interview with Lisa Cholodenko, the writer/director of "Laurel Canyon," in which she tells about how the story is based on her ideas about Joni living in Laurel Canyon when she did, etc. Does anyone have the excerpt? (I did try the JMDL archives and online under searches for Laurel Canyon and Lisa Cholodenko, but as usual, my search techniques leave something to be desired as I never seem to find what I want...) Thanks to anyone who can help. I've mentioned the interview to two people and wanted to email it to them. Lindsay ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 17:44:47 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE: Joni Special: WEDNESDAY NIGHT !! i should have checked the listings...i just did & discovered that my pbs station does not broadcast this show until thurs & fri so i'm in luck!!!! there are several repeats!!! btw we are on a satellite dish so maybe that is why there is a difference... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 21:13:52 EST From: AsharaJM@aol.com Subject: Re: joni special wednesday night sjc In a message dated 4/1/2003 4:48:54 PM Eastern Standard Time, SCJoniGuy@aol.com writes: > Joe &whoever, I'm planning on recording it and will be happy to make copies. > I'll confirm after the broadcast. > Ditto. Just e-mail me privately if you want a copy. Hugs, Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 21:23:10 -0500 From: "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Joni & James Update Good news, campers. I'm nearly caught up on making the remastered "Joni & James" & "The World Cafe" sets! About 3/13 I sent out packages to Stuart Rutherford in UAE, D. Sadowski in Oak Park, IL, John Epstein in Holyoke, MA, Sean McGuire in Denver, CO, Doug Meek in Jasper, ON, and Scott Merrell in W. Sayville, NY. Today I sent packages to: Will Comstock, Brian E. Meyer, Ashara Stansfield, Eric G. Postel, & Catherine McKay. Still to come: Dan Olson, Anne Sandstrom, Paz, Joseph Shelton, Les, "and Jerry Mathers and the Beaver". Lama ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 22:57:50 -0800 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Joni Special: WEDNESDAY NIGHT !! These are eastern time zone for all you central mountain and pacific folks Paz (who will be out tomorrow, but have a saint recording it direct to DVD as well as Mikey recording it on the old VHS) > The show will be repeated four times on PBS' C-Band satellite channel > (transponder 18): > April 2 9:00 PM > April 3 11:00AM and 4:00AM > April 5 8:00PM > Just in case you know anyone with one of those hughmungus* dishes > *my spell checker dosen't have that word > (of course maybe someone could send you a tape) > > Doug > > Kate Bennett wrote: > >>> Okay, it's April. Where are my essays, etc?< >>> >>> >> >> maybe its their april fools joke... >> >> unfortunately i'm producing a show tonight & will miss this show :~{ >> >> so, if anyone knows of a rebroadcast of this show please let me know! >> otherwise i will wait for the dvd... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 22:55:32 -0600 From: David Sadowski Subject: Re: 39 Steps...to Joni Cover Happiness! Does the cover series include the nice version of All I Want by Keith Jarrett from his 1971 disc The Mourning of a Star? It's excellent... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 23:02:15 -0800 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Joni & James Update ONE of these days I will be on the *A* list or the INNER INNER circle as it were. Paz (sniff) > Good news, campers. > > I'm nearly caught up on making the remastered "Joni & James" & "The World > Cafe" sets! > > About 3/13 I sent out packages to Stuart Rutherford in UAE, D. Sadowski in > Oak Park, IL, John Epstein in Holyoke, MA, Sean McGuire in Denver, CO, Doug > Meek in Jasper, ON, and Scott Merrell in W. Sayville, NY. > > Today I sent packages to: > Will Comstock, Brian E. Meyer, Ashara Stansfield, Eric G. Postel, & > Catherine McKay. > > Still to come: > Dan Olson, Anne Sandstrom, Paz, Joseph Shelton, Les, "and Jerry Mathers and > the Beaver". > > Lama ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 23:07:48 -0800 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: [NortheastJonifest] march 30!!!!!!! > Thanks so much Stephen and to everyone else on the lists that phoned and > emailed. I am much better now as you can see I am posting again. Must be the > gin intake again. > Slurp, ahhhhhhh! > > Thanks again all, > > Paz > > > > Happy belated birthday Michael!! Hope it was a great one- I just know you > lived it to the fullest ;-) > See you soon > best > Stephen in Vancouver ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 02:02:24 -0500 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today in History: April 2 1997: It was publically announced that Joni has been reunited with her daughter Kilauren. Click the link for a collection of articles leading up to and about the reunion. More info: http://www.jmdl.com/articles/reunion.cfm - ---- For a comprehensive reference to Joni's appearances, consult Joni Mitchell ~ A Chronology of Appearances: http://www.jonimitchell.com/appearances.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 02:02:24 -0500 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Library Links: April 2 On April 2 the following item was published: 2001: "Rain and Snow on Everyone" - Alberta NewsMagazine (Reunion Story) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=618 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 02:20:20 -0500 From: Cactustree78@aol.com Subject: JONI PBS Just to let y'all know..pbs.org has finally put up the joni website they have been promising..ENJOY!! have a great day all i cant wait literally for the pbs special im gonna be all corny and have a lil party(alone) with chips and dip..wine..glass piece..tissues..etc..this is certainly a special occasion or i just really need to get out much much more..... ****kevin**** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 02:32:12 -0500 From: Doug Subject: Re: JONI PBS It is an excellent show, Kevin. A solid 90 minutes of great music. Remember to unplug your phone. Doug Cactustree78@aol.com wrote: >Just to let y'all know..pbs.org has finally put up the joni website they have been promising..ENJOY!! > >have a great day all i cant wait literally for the pbs special im gonna be all corny and have a lil party(alone) with chips and dip..wine..glass piece..tissues..etc..this is certainly a special occasion or i just really need to get out much much more..... ****kevin**** ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2003 #111 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)