From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2003 #105 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Friday, March 28 2003 Volume 2003 : Number 105 Sign up now for JoniFest 2003! http://www.jonifest.com ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- re-writing joni ["robin mortlock" ] Re: re-writing joni [Catherine McKay ] Thursday Night at Jonifest [AsharaProducLLC@aol.com] ANNOUNCING.....the Jonifest 2003 LOGO CONTEST!!! [AsharaProducLLC@aol.com] Review of W2W - New York Times, 3/27 [Deb Messling ] Re: re-writing joni [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Woodstock in the aisles - what happened to this tribute cd? plus wall to wall commentary [] Re: JMDL Digest V2003 #196 [MARBOLI79@aol.com] joni was a skater, wasn't she? [twoshoes@sasktel.net] Misheard lyrics [Little Bird ] Re: Misheard lyrics [Murphycopy@aol.com] Re: joni was a skater, wasn't she? [Little Bird ] RE: Misheard lyrics ["theodore" ] Dark Cafe Days and more [Rdalindley@aol.com] Today's Library Links: March 28 [ljirvin@jmdl.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 11:23:06 +0000 From: "robin mortlock" Subject: re-writing joni This is all about misheard lyrics that you think sound better than the intended verse: Refuge of the Roads "I met a friend of spirit, he drank and womanised" Sex Kills "There's a hostile sun beating down now, on the massiveness within" Anymore?.....i am curious. Robin - Ireland - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ MSN 8 helps ELIMINATE E-MAIL VIRUSES. Get 2 months FREE*. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 06:59:32 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: re-writing joni --- robin mortlock wrote: > This is all about misheard lyrics that you think > sound better than the > intended verse: > > Refuge of the Roads > > "I met a friend of spirit, he drank and womanised" > > Sex Kills > > "There's a hostile sun beating down now, on the > massiveness within" > > Anymore?.....i am curious. D'oh! You mean those aren't the right words? I think I need to find a large-print version of Joni's lyrics and possibly a hearing aid. ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 07:05:46 EST From: AsharaProducLLC@aol.com Subject: Thursday Night at Jonifest Hi Jonifest 2003 attendees and potential attendees! If you are planning on attending the Thursday Night festivities, please indicate that on your online form so I can start to get an idea of numbers. Thursday night is a wonderful opportunity for people to settle in to Full Moon, epecially those coming from a distance. It's a chance to get to know people and play music in a little bit more intimate setting as well. Please remember to check off what extra meals you will partaking in so I can get the money sorted out. A reminder to register/send a deposit in soon if you want to be guaranteed a bed! Hugs, Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 07:13:41 EST From: AsharaProducLLC@aol.com Subject: ANNOUNCING.....the Jonifest 2003 LOGO CONTEST!!! All you creative people out there........get your pens, paper, pencils, watercolors, pastels, scissors, oils, acryllics, crayons, magic markers and other creative implements, and send your entries for the most WONDERFUL logo for Jonifest 2003 to: les@jmdl.com CONTEST RULES: 1) Please no copyrighted pictures/drawings. 2) Please keep the Logo simple for ease of reproduction. 3) It should include the words Jonifest 2003 somewhere in the Logo. Feel free to make up a slogan as well, if the spirit moves you. 4) Prize: My undying gratitude and the ENORMOUS prestige of having your logo used for top secret Jonifest things. As in last year, there will be a wonderful prize as well, to be given to the winner. (To be determined.) 5) All entries must be received by April 28, 2003. Everyone out in JMDL land will have a chance to vote for their favorite logo. Hugs, Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 07:25:17 -0500 From: Deb Messling Subject: Review of W2W - New York Times, 3/27 March 27, 2003 Artists, Folk to Classical, Interpret Joni Mitchell By BEN RATLIFF After hearing hours of Joni Mitchell's music interpreted by others on Saturday, during Symphony Space's "Wall-to-Wall Joni Mitchell" festival, here's the first thing to be said about interpreting that music: It isn't easy. All those tightly sprung, shifting guitar-based harmonies, under that onrushing voice. All those lyrics, barely transportable to another person's mouth, either for reasons of rhythm or poetic expression. (There are linguistic quips, startling flashes of anger, lines that would be terribly precious coming from a duller person.) Compare it to the past 32 editions of the annual "Wall-to-Wall," a roll call of figures basic to our performance culture, from Bach to Miles Davis to Kurt Weill to George Gershwin. Joni Mitchell is indeed a major composer, worthy of the honor. But that doesn't mean many musicians dare to perform her personal, intransigent work very often. Of the stretches I managed to hear, the best performances were given by folk singers, representing where she originally came from, and jazz performers, representing where she has inevitably been heading. There wasn't much happy medium. Suzzy and Maggie Roche, two-thirds of the folk trio the Roches, have a sensible, unflappable disposition. They didn't seem overwhelmed by the task, even though Suzzy allowed that she hadn't performed a Joni Mitchell song since she was in high school. Martha Wainwright, on the other hand, was super-flappable: here's a good example of a young folk singer, a beneficiary in some sense of Ms. Mitchell's work, yet she had never performed the master's tunes and had only learned "Big Yellow Taxi" earlier that day. (Yes, it's a famous song.) Shaking with nerves  and wearing rain boots on a sunny day, which could have been an indicator of her mood  she got through it by playing only the basic chords and hollering out the lyrics. She forced it to work. And so did Marc Anthony Thompson, bringing two songs from "The Hissing of Summer Lawns" down to their basic essence with voice and guitar. As for jazz, the pianist Fred Hersch came prepared. His solo versions of three songs from the "Blue" album  "My Old Man" (which he has recorded), "All I Want" and "River"  incorporated the melodies into his own solo-piano conception, full of shifts in dynamics and a salting of Monk-style staccato figures among the rich, murmured chords. The saxophonist Greg Osby took two songs from one of Ms. Mitchell's most overlooked records, "Dog Eat Dog," and exploded the chord changes, working through them with the guitarist Mike Moreno. The Mingus Big Band performed some tracks from Ms. Mitchell's collaborative album with Charles Mingus; the baritone singer Andy Bey, escaping her vocal technique entirely, sang "A Chair in the Sky" with his own authority. Don Byron's Music for Six Musicians, with the singer D. K. Dyson, fared less well: their interpretation of an early song, "The Priest," went overboard with Yoruba references in percussion and singing, resulting in a so-so take on Ms. Mitchell by way of a so-so take on Afro-Brazilian music. And the singer Luciana Souza has a voice whose precision can match the younger Ms. Mitchell's, but the rapid rhythm of the words in "All I Want" wiggled away from her. There were cabaret singers (Julian Fleisher), classical-repertory singers (Dana Hanchard, Ute Lemper, Alicia Hall) and former quasi-rock stars (Laurie Anderson, Garland Jeffreys). One strangely memorable tribute came from the singer Theo Bleckmann, who often sings without words, and as if he's from another planet. His arrangements for voice, accordion and drums of songs from the very old "Sisotowbell Lane" to the contemporary "Borderline" were so concentrated that the performance approached a siance. Some people take their Joni seriously; Mr. Bleckmann is one of them. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 07:58:14 -0500 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: re-writing joni In a message dated 3/27/2003 6:23:06 AM Eastern Standard Time, robinjamesmortlock@hotmail.com writes: > Refuge of the Roads > > "I met a friend of spirit, he drank and womanised" But this *IS* the lyric she sings on Hejira. In post-Hejira live performances, and on Travelogue she altered the lyric to "a drunk with sages' eyes". Bob NP: Joni, "For Free" Seattle 3/12/74 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 08:02:46 -0500 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Woodstock in the aisles - what happened to this tribute cd? plus wall to wall commentary In a message dated 3/26/2003 11:11:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, pleader@nyc.rr.com writes: > back to the unreleased tribute, i wonder if elvis costello > put down his > 'edith and ' with the Mingus Big Band? Yes, when he was artist-in-residence at UCLA in 2001, he performed with The Mingus Orchestra and did 'Edith'. That wasn't the only performance, but there were not many. We have an audience recording, not the best quality but better than nothing. In his intro he alluded to the actual studio recording which had been sitting on the shelf for awhile even at that point. Bob, days away from tribute frisbee #39 NP: Joni, "Trouble Child" 3/12/74 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 08:54:09 EST From: MARBOLI79@aol.com Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2003 #196 IN MILES OF AISLES, BETWEEN THE SONGS "COLD BLUE STEEL" AND "WOMAN OF HEART AND MIND", SOMEONE IN THE AUDIENCE TELLS SOMETHING ABOUT MICK JAGGER I THINK THAT MAKES JONI LAUGH WHAT IS IT ? I'M FRENCH AND CAN'T UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING IN ENGLISH THANK YOU ALL ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 10:13:33 -0600 From: twoshoes@sasktel.net Subject: joni was a skater, wasn't she? it's carnival time across the land and i wonder if joni ever participated in them as a child? she must have photo of my sister and I at age 7 and 5 in our carnival gear http://xoetc.antville.org okay okay you can barely see the skates oh, the days way back when when i used to be cute !!! i imagine she might have worn just such a costume as i and lined up against the wall for the obligatory photo op only she probably Enjoyed performing while i never did, never do though i love skating, love singing, love dancing there are so many of you on this list who sing in public i can do it, i have as recently as two years ago (musical theatre) but the only pleasure is in the rehearsals and the after-accolades sad but true i would love to hear how those of you who perform experience it why you do it why you do it why you do it i know joni didn't like performing for huge crowds (she mentions this in the life and times bio) but enjoyed the small venues has anyone heard her say more about this, other than that she started doing it in coffee houses because she needed the money and not because of some inner urge or desire or need? my idea of enjoyable "public" singing is a singalong where everyone sings and their is no audience, or singing harmonies in a closed studio. Kate ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 08:43:26 -0800 (PST) From: Little Bird Subject: Misheard lyrics My contribution: Misheard: "Hoe-down, in a field in a farmer's grove" Actual: "Motown, in a field in a farmer's grove" From: "Ray's Dad's Cadillac" - -Andrew Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 11:47:10 EST From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: Misheard lyrics My contribution: Misheard: "Look at this town, the snowmen left" Actual: "Look at this town, there's no men left" From: "The Tea Leaf Prophecy" --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 08:49:37 -0800 (PST) From: Little Bird Subject: Re: joni was a skater, wasn't she? > i know joni didn't like performing for huge crowds (she mentions this in the life and times bio)but enjoyed the small venues has anyone heard her say more about this, other than that she started doing it in coffee houses because she needed the money and not because of some inner urge or desire or need?> JONI ON THE BIG STAGE: "I never liked the big stage. I liked the coffee houses. I never liked the idea of separating myself from people, or being elevated. Maybe it's Canadian! You know, stick your head above the crowd and we'll be glad to lop it off! But something in me made me not like the separation. As the stages got higher and higher, the fickleness of the crowds, suddenly this was being taken seriously and there were critics sitting out there. I disliked the formalization of it as it went to the big stage and this need for perfection. In the coffee houses it was so experimental, so casual, so friendly. I could jump off the stage and sit down with them, stay at people's houses, go out to dinner. There was no inequity. I remember the first night when I heard someone suck in their breath when I went by. And I ran! It filled me so full of adrenaline that I ran for about six blocks in the opposite direction: 'That's Joni Mitchell!!(gasp!)' Boom! I was outta there!" Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 08:58:24 -0800 From: "theodore" Subject: RE: joni was a skater, wasn't she? I never liked big venues cause the lights were too bright. We'd always tell them turn em down. You can't see past the first row. Its hard to tell who's throwing things at you ! Ted - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com] On Behalf Of Little Bird Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 8:50 AM To: twoshoes@sasktel.net; joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: joni was a skater, wasn't she? > i know joni didn't like performing for huge crowds (she mentions this in the life and times bio)but enjoyed the small venues has anyone heard her say more about this, other than that she started doing it in coffee houses because she needed the money and not because of some inner urge or desire or need?> JONI ON THE BIG STAGE: "I never liked the big stage. I liked the coffee houses. I never liked the idea of separating myself from people, or being elevated. Maybe it's Canadian! You know, stick your head above the crowd and we'll be glad to lop it off! But something in me made me not like the separation. As the stages got higher and higher, the fickleness of the crowds, suddenly this was being taken seriously and there were critics sitting out there. I disliked the formalization of it as it went to the big stage and this need for perfection. In the coffee houses it was so experimental, so casual, so friendly. I could jump off the stage and sit down with them, stay at people's houses, go out to dinner. There was no inequity. I remember the first night when I heard someone suck in their breath when I went by. And I ran! It filled me so full of adrenaline that I ran for about six blocks in the opposite direction: 'That's Joni Mitchell!!(gasp!)' Boom! I was outta there!" Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 08:59:31 -0800 From: "theodore" Subject: RE: Misheard lyrics - -----Original Message----- From: theodore [mailto:theodore@buckfush.org] Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 8:48 AM To: 'Little Bird' Subject: RE: Misheard lyrics That's funny. When I was a kid I thought the lyric to lucy in the sky with diamonds went "... the girl with colitis go by." Instead of "...the girl with kaleidoscope eyes." My dad had colitis! Ted - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com] On Behalf Of Little Bird Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 8:43 AM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: Misheard lyrics My contribution: Misheard: "Hoe-down, in a field in a farmer's grove" Actual: "Motown, in a field in a farmer's grove" From: "Ray's Dad's Cadillac" - -Andrew Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 12:28:38 EST From: Rdalindley@aol.com Subject: Dark Cafe Days and more "And remember Rob mentioned the show being extended and running on Sundays in April. Hmm maybe we'll see Rob and the girls at Jonifest?! Come on ROb get Alyson and Anne to join up! I wonder what Joni would think of the show or shows like this? She would have to feel proud about this sort of tribute and interpretation of her work, dontcha think?" Hopefully Joni would like what we do. I would be nervous as a cat if I had to perform in front of her. I love how nervous everyone on the TNT tribute was - makes me feel a little better. Susan - I think we did get Anne to sign up. She hasn't posted yet - but I think she's reading. "By the way, here's the finished track listing for the ill-fated "A Case of Joni" tribute CD, which was supposed to have been released 3 years ago. " That's funny to me. Foiled Again almost called our Joni tribute "A Case of Joni." Anne and Allison made fun of my idea and then suggested - Big Yellow Joni - or Hissing of the Summer Joni. :/ Glad we went with Dark Cafe Days. On Ute Lemper I was totally blown away by her flawless performance. . . . A very talented woman. Not only does she have a successful singing career, but she's an accomplished > actress as well. According to her biography, she's covered some Piaf. Would > love to hear her sing again. I think she's amazing. I wasn't surprised at all that she was at the tribute. She does such a great job with other people's material. Her Piaf covers are amazing. On one of her latest CDs she did material by Tom Waits, Elvis Costello, Phillip Glass - sadly no Joni on it. Later Rob - in the blue TV screen light ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 02:09:25 -0500 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Library Links: March 28 On March 28 the following item was published: 2000: "Music Scoop" - E! Online (News Item) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=711 ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2003 #105 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)