From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2003 #101 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Tuesday, March 25 2003 Volume 2003 : Number 101 Sign up now for JoniFest 2003! http://www.jonifest.com ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Wall to Wall notes (2nd sending) [dsk ] Re: Wall to Wall/My 2 Cents [dsk ] Re: Wall to Wall/My 2 Cents [Deb Messling ] Re: Wall to Wall notes [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: JMDL Digest V2003 #187 [JSerkes@aol.com] More W2W [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Stupid Question/ TNT video [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Oscars ["mack watson-bush" ] oscars. apology ["mack watson-bush" ] *****PARSONAGE LANE****** preorder now!!! ["Victor Johnson" ] Re: BBC - 'A Woman of Heart and Mind' ["Stephen Toogood" ] Re: oscars - now with added jc [AzeemAK@aol.com] RE: Joni Wall to Wall ["patrick leader" ] RE: Wall to Wall/My 2 Cents ["patrick leader" ] Oh Watchful Ones Amongst the Slaves -SJC ["Suzanne MarcAurele" ] Re: oscars - now with added jc [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Oh Watchful Ones Amongst the Slaves -SJC [Ricw1217@aol.com] my favorite peace song [KJHSF@aol.com] TNT All-Star Tribute available, was Stupid Question ["Lama, Jim L'Hommedi] Wanted: Joni At London's Wembley Arena, 1983 ["Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Wall to Wall notes (2nd sending) This is the second time I'm sending this since the first message sent hours ago hasn't shown up yet even though others have, so this may be a duplicate. The list is so quiet. Is all well with smoe.org? ********** Yesterday's music was such a life affirming celebration, reaching back through time as art can wonderfully do and erasing it (Chelsea Morning is HOW old?), and by its very being tying us all together and expressing hope for the future. There were performances that will be with me forever. I hope many of you were able to tune in at some point, and that a recording becomes available for everyone. It was interesting to me the way people inserted their comments about the war, without giving any speeches. Toward the end of the day someone mentioned that the artists had been told not to talk about the war, and yet many of them got their viewpoint about what's happening across anyway. Marathon man (and continuously charming, too -- how does he do that?) Jonicovers Bob took notes and I hope will soon give a detailed listing and reaction to what we heard and saw yesterday. At this point, for me, my thoughts about it are not very organized so I'll start with my favorite performance: Helga Davis, with an accompanying singer and small band, starting with God Must Be a Boogie Man (nice, sounded good, happy), then as she sang Beat of Black Wings, becoming today's Killer Kyle overwhelmed with all his complex feelings, then joining with the other woman who'd started singing Joni's Love, giving an emphasis to peacemakers, and as the song went on it became a demand and a plea and a desperate hope and urgent prayer for peace and (I felt) healing for Killer Kyle and all who are suffering. I was in tears by the end, as many people were, and Helga herself needed physical support from her co-performers. Magnificent. There was no emotional space between her and the music and the audience. Other highlights: Laurie Anderson's pre-Both Sides Now introduction; sitting calmly, with her foot she started a machine that made an eerie throbbing sound, and over that she said, with her own unique pacing, "to everyone who creates, create beautiful things now, and create... like there's no tomorrow..." Her version of BSN was very sweet, with her plucking what looked like a small electronic violin. Mingus Big Band doing Joni/Mingus songs and hearing stories from Sue Mingus. The Priest with a sexy Latin beat. Lucy Kaplansky's pleasing-to-me voice and demeanor. Gail Ann Dorsey singing Passion Play. Morley talking about Joni's elegant and subtle political activism. Garland Jeffreys' style of "having a good time" singing. The different instrumental sounds in the performances by Theo Bleckmann (who also mentioned that he experienced T'log as a moving anti-war statement), Don Byron and his group, and Burnt Sugar. The dramatically performed poem created from Joni lines (I imagined being in the beat poets era). Martha Wainwright's annoying-to-me start, saying things like "I really don't know this song but I've been playing it all day; and I don't have the cd so I don't know what it's supposed to sound like but I got the notes, so I'm going to give it a try." She was talking about Big Yellow Taxi!! The balls that girl's got! And then it turned out ok, with her playing BYT very slowly, and people singing along, and her whispering as we sang "I'm so glad you're all here." I found all of that oddly appealing by the end of her performance. Hearing Ute Lemper sing so clearly and effortlessly and with such power. Those were the things I enjoyed most. I can see already from what others have written that what I liked least (even hated!) were other people's favorites, and probably vice versa, so for now I'll limit my comments to this favorites/highlights list. Debra Shea ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 06:03:26 -0500 From: dsk Subject: Re: Wall to Wall/My 2 Cents Ken, That's great you were able to hear almost all of it! One thing I especially enjoyed about the show was the wide variety of styles and songs covered, and I could appreciate that even when I didn't like a particular artist's interpretation. > I listened to nearly all 12 hours over the radio and was left with the same > impression I had after the TNT tribute. Many of the performers sounded in > over their heads. Was that second banshee-wailing cover of Jericho somehow > more listenable if witnessed live? Because over the radio feed, it was truly > horrifying. That was Sussan Deyhim. I hated her singing, too, and was thankful the song was short (I don't think she did all of it) and that she only did the one song. Even watching her was painful. Her face contorted. Her chin did more than a little trembling. It was such a relief to me when she finally sang something outright. Then her voice had a rich deep sound, but then she'd go back to that other way of singing. Ouch. I couldn't stop watching her though. Other people had other reactions to her performance. The friend I was with was impressed because she was doing with her voice what a previous artist (Theo Bleckmann) had done with manipulating the microphone and other mechanical equipment. Then at dinner after the show, I learned that that style of singing is "throat singing", common to the Middle East (?), and is part of a great tradition, and that some people love the sound of it. Not me. It's interesting to know about; I hope I don't hear it again. > I noticed that operatic voice worked well for the Song to a Seagull > selections, but sounded comical on Hejira and reminded me of the sketch on > Saturday Night Live where the uncool music teachers perform contemporary > rock; singing and over enunciating. LOL! That's exactly the impression I had of Lauren Flanigan, who tied together five different songs. She even moved kind of like the Saturday Night Live singer in those comedy sketches. Two, even three, songs would have been okay because I liked the drummer and sitar player so there were some interesting sounds separate from her annoying voice. But five! with those forced segues. Too much. > I loved the performer who did Passion Play! She was right on the mark! She was great! That's Gail Ann Dorsey, a singer/songwriter whose day job, as she puts it, for the last 8 years is being David Bowie's bass player. I liked her electric guitar Wolf that Lives in Lindsay also. > The collage of car themed tunes at the beginning was nice, but again the featured > performer's studied style of singing strikes me as off. I much preferred the > background singer, who was featured on a swinging verse of You Dream Flat > Tires. Me too! That was Karen Mack, and her singing sounded "real" in a way the others didn't. Her voice was the most enjoyable part of that set to me. > Urge For Going sounded unrehearsed. I'd looked forward to Christine Lavin's set and was completely disappointed. She didn't seem to know the songs and so stumbled along, and even if she'd played and sung the songs flawlessly, her voice wasn't very interesting. It had no richness or emotion to it, that I could hear anyway, so I had trouble paying attention to her, even though Urge for Going is one of my favorite songs. > In all, though, hearing others perform these works makes me appreciate Joni's > talent even more. Hearing the wide variety of Joni's songs, all of them so expressive and finely crafted, makes me appreciate her talent even more. Then hearing singers making some adjustments so they can sing the song, and watching the guitarists (usually) struggle to keep up makes me realize how complex some of them are. In general, the artists who were most comfortable were the ones who re-created her songs in their own style rather than doing them as Joni did. > Her singing is just dead on all the time, effortless and > comfortable. It used to be. She's had to do her own re-creating lately, and she's stumbled herself when singing other people's songs. There was one song at the Both Sides Now concert that she had to get out the lyric sheet for because she could never remember the words, so I think a lot of her ease with singing her own songs is that she's probably labored over most of them and they're ingrained, and she'll have creative "giving birth"-type emotional connections to her work that other people never will. > I was really surprised and pleased at Sue Graham Mingus' > presentation. I somehow had the idea that she wasn't a big Joni fan. I did, too, as though they were rivals for Mingus' affection. I don't know where I got that idea. > Wish I could have been there in person, because it is inspiring to know that > Joni's recognition is growing. And any tribute to Joni is better than no > tribute at all. It was wonderful being there. Most performers took a great deal of care in their presentation, which to me showed how much they respect Joni and love her music. Some of them even stayed to hear the other artists. With a couple of exceptions, it felt like there was a lot of enthusiasm for the entire event from the artists as well as the audience. In the 33 years that Wall to Walls have been done, Joni's the first woman to be so honored. Other honorees include Miles Davis, Richard Rogers, Bach, Ravel & Debussy, Duke Ellington, Gershwin, Copland, Charles Ives, Irving Berlin... so she's in impressive company. I think she'd be pleased at that. Debra Shea ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 06:42:40 -0500 From: Deb Messling Subject: Re: Wall to Wall/My 2 Cents To me, the most "Saturday Night Live-ish" moment was the guy singing Turbulent Indigo with The Four Bags: "oh what do you know about living in turbulent indigo-wo-wo." At 06:03 AM 3/24/2003 -0500, you wrote: > > I noticed that operatic voice worked well for the Song to a Seagull > > selections, but sounded comical on Hejira and reminded me of the sketch on > > Saturday Night Live where the uncool music teachers perform contemporary > > rock; singing and over enunciating. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 08:26:51 -0500 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Wall to Wall notes In a message dated 3/24/2003 12:33:38 AM Eastern Standard Time, dsk11@bellatlantic.net writes: > Marathon man (and continuously charming, too -- how does he do that?) It's way too easy when you're surrounded by the aura of Joni & the love & warmth of good friends! > Jonicovers Bob took notes and I hope will soon give a > detailed listing > and reaction to what we heard and saw yesterday. I was at first delighted that there was a very detailed program with all the performers & the songs they'd be doing, but then I soon found out that the order was being drastically flip-flopped. (Shades of Jonifest '01!) Anyway, for those who just want to know who did what, and just so you can appreciate the depth of the concert, here's a list of performers & songs, in their proper order: Sylvia McNair - Chelsea Morning Video clip - Joni singing "For Free" on the Dick Cavett show Sylvia McNair - California Laurie Anderson - Both Sides Now Jason Moran - The Priest Jason Moran/Alicia Hall - Woodstock Lucy Kaplansky - Carey, Willy Lorinda Lisitza - Cherokee Louise, Song For Sharon, Ray's Dad's Cadillac Helga Davis - God Must Be A Boogie Man, Beat of Black Wings, Love Stretto - Little Green Garland Jeffreys - People's Parties, You Turn Me On I'm A Radio Jane Ira Bloom - Woman Of Heart & Mind Morley - This Flight Tonight, River, Chinese Cafe Lauren Flanigan - (Medley: Song To A Seagull, Nathan LaFraneer, Hejira, Furry Sings The Blues, I Had A King) Gail Ann Dorsey - Passion Play, Wolf That Lives In Lindsay Ivy Austin - Little Green Christine Lavin - Urge For Going, Marcie Suzzy & Maggie Roche - A Case of You, For The Roses, Cactus Tree (w/Jennifer Glass) Bob Holman - Jonicento Luciana Souza - Blue, All I Want, Amelia, Jericho David Krakauer - The Fiddle And The Drum Theo Bleckmann - Refuge Of The Roads, Sisotowbell Lane, Sunny Sunday, Borderline Edie Carey - Night Ride Home Edie Carey w/ Anne Heaton - Slouching Towards Bethlehem Anne Heaton - For Free Julien Fleischer - Conversation Burnt Sugar, The Arkestra Chamber - The Jungle Line, A Strange Boy Dana Hanchard - The Wolf That Lives In Lindsay Elliott Sharp's Terraplane - Shadows & Light Gregory Douglas & Jeremy Mendocino - Court & Spark, Free Man In Paris Nora York - Both Sides Now, Sex Kills, The Fiddle And The Drum Melba Joyce - Harlem In Havana Carole Pope - Down To You, Raised On Robbery The Four Bags w/David Garland - Songs To Aging Children Come, Turbulent Indigo The Four Bags - Wild Things Run Fast, Help Me Fred Hersch - My Old Man, All I Want, River Greg Osby - Tax Free, Ethiopia Tamar-Kali - Silky Veils of Ardor Julien Fleischer - The Last Time I Saw Richard, The Circle Game Sussan Deyhim - Jericho Brandon Ross - Off Night Backstreet Mingus Big Band - A Chair In The Sky (Andy Bey - vocals) Mingus Big Band - Sweet Sucker Dance (Dana Hanchard - vocals) Mingus Big Band - Edith & The Kingpin (Julien Fleischer - vocals) Mingus Big Band - The Dry Cleaner From Des Moines (Melba Joyce - vocals) Mingus Big Band - Goodbye Pork Pie Hat (Melba Joyce - vocals) Jenifer Jackson - That Song About The Midway, The Gallery Don Byron & Music For Six Musicians + 1 - The Priest, Dreamland Martha Wainwright - Roses Blue, Big Yellow Taxi Marc Anthony Thompson - Don't Interrupt The Sorrow, Hissing Of Summer Lawns Ute Lemper - Black Crow, Last Chance Lost, Love Video Clip - Joni sings "Chelsea Morning" on the Dick Cavett Show Obviously, writing a detailed review will take time, so bear with me. I'm supposed to be working! :~) Bob NP: Joni, "Amelia" from S&L ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 08:46:14 EST From: JSerkes@aol.com Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2003 #187 Went to the SymphonySpace show.... WOW. all I can say. It was a day of amazing muse. How lucky I was to be in NYC this particular weekend. The agenda was incredible. Artists were impeckable. I am so so glad I walked down on a Chelsea Morning. I always try and stay in Chelsea. Good vibe there. My favorite performance was Gail Ann Dorsey, an amazing bass player, who gets joni. gets her. so her interpretives were so calculated and excellent. "passion play, the the wolf who lives..."she plays for Bowie. Here is a partial list of performers... The Roches-Cactus Tree, A case of you, for the roses....by the way, for those of you who also love Nyro, the gen x tribute cd has them doing Wedding Bell Blues, so adorably... Sylvia McNair-Chelsea.... Lucy Kaplansky-Carey, Willie Garland Jeffrys-You turn me on, people's party Christine Lavin-Urge and Marce David Krakauer-The fiddle Carol Pope(what a treat to see this wild woman-Down to you and Raised on Robbery Mingus Band-great great great Bebel Gilberto-Blue Motel and Woman of Heart 11 hours wall to wall, more later...just beautiful. I am a "Lucky Girl" Jody L. Serkes Saint Louis MO. 314.991.9165 home 314.989.9898 work 314.378.6052 mobile jserkes@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 08:58:08 -0500 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: More W2W In a message dated 3/24/2003 8:46:14 AM Eastern Standard Time, JSerkes writes: > Bebel Gilberto-Blue Motel and Woman of Heart Except that she cancelled, so we didn't get to hear what would have been a wonderful set! Jody, you should have checked in with JMDL central, surely you saw & heard us. Bob NP: Joni, "Dreamland" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 10:31:29 -0500 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Stupid Question/ TNT video In a message dated 3/24/2003 1:36:08 AM Eastern Standard Time, mpredmore@att.net writes: > Is there a video of the Tribute to joni that was broadcast > April 16 2000? Hi Mary, not a stupid question at all. There is/was a video of this program, copies pop up on eBay of the video that was sent for Emmy voting, so you can get it that way, or I taped it live off the air when it was broadcast on TNT, so I've got a nice clean original(with commercials) that makes a good copy. I'm happy to make you a copy - just send me a blank tape + return postage + $6 to cover the cost of the dub, or send me $12 which covers all the costs and sends it direct to your front door. I have a paypal account if that's a help. Let me know if you're interested - of course the offer extends to anyone else who wants one. Bob NP: Joni, "Love" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 11:11:21 -0600 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: Re: Oscars Azeem wrote: For the first time, I stayed up to watch the whole thing I tried but couldn't get past 5 minutes. With all deference to Vince, and must admit being happy for him when I heard the news, I don't share positive feelings for Eminem or his music. Conversation with Tod concerning it: mack-you won't believe this, Eminem actually won an oscar. tod-when were they on? mack-last night. tod-great. mack-you must be kidding. tod-you have your taste, i have mine. tod-joni mitchell never won an oscar. nuff said. - - pair of hands" rather than something really outstanding (I am thinking, for > example, of Ordinary People winning over Raging Bull In my opinion, Ordinary People was truly deserving while Raging Bull was nothing more than another one of those movies, one in a long line of Robert DeNiro playing the same part, again and again and again. I used to enjoy these awards shows but like someone else wrote last year, never again. Subjective popularity contests that invariably remind me of those cheerleading contests from my school days when the popular girl would always win over the seemingly unattractive girl with a few pimples. Great for the winner but not so for the rest and even though they have removed the word winner, to be more politically correct, that is what it means and all know it. mack ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 11:14:07 -0600 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: oscars. apology followed the link. should have been njc, sorry joni onlies. mack ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 12:51:39 -0800 From: "Victor Johnson" Subject: *****PARSONAGE LANE****** preorder now!!! First of all, I know the world is in a state of turmoil and war right now and I'm having as hard a time as anyone I guess but I hope to soon bring a ray of sunshine, peace and love into the world-that's how I've been surviving all along for the past two years, doing what I can to make the world a better place, and not succumbing to fear, uncertainty, and terror. In a weird way, it's almost fitting as I wrote "Parsonage Lane" the night before Sept 11, a day that really woke up the western world to the reality of terrorism, really bringing it close to home. What I hope is that "Parsonage Lane", the album, will wake people up to how beautiful the world can be, and stir up some wonderful, good energy that we so sorely need right now. Second of all, I want to thank Joni Mitchell because if it wasn't for her music, there would never have been a JMDL or a jonifest, I would never have gone to Topsfield, never would have flown out of Boston, never would have flown to New York for "Bobfest", and I could go on and on but I'll stop here and just say thank you Joni! Now for the details! We are now accepting preorders for "Parsonage Lane". Each copy is $15.00 in US dollars. And there will be NO SHIPPING charges. None!!! I know these are difficult times and hope this will help a little bit. This is for preorders only and includes all DOMESTIC AND INTERNATIONAL orders, and is good for all orders whether you order 1,2,4, or any number of copies. Just send a check or international money order($15 for each copy) made payable to: Victor Johnson PO Box 43 Decatur, Georgia 30031 Parsonage Lane track listing: 1. Heavenly Eyes 2. Real World 3. Parsonage Lane 4. Carolina ( for James Taylor) 5. Master of the Ring 6. Broken Candles 7. September Bride 8. Accidental Angel 9. Wendy 10. Moonbeams 11. Boomerang Love 12. Scarlet 13. If the World Should End 14. Sailing Please email me if you have any questions...I'll continue to keep you posted but everything is rolling along and the artwork, which I saw today, is just breathtaking. I'm working six days a week at Whole Foods Market right now so haven't had much time to post but I hope everyone is doing alright and hope you're getting an opportunity to enjoy some of the beautiful weather we've been having here the past few days. best, Victor - --- Victor Johnson - --- waytoblu@mindspring.com Visit http://www.cdbaby.com/victorjohnson Look for the new album, Parsonage Lane, coming this spring! Produced by Chris Rosser at Hollow Reed Studios ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 14:16:17 EST From: AsharaJM@aol.com Subject: Re: Stupid Question/ TNT video KoversKing Bob wrote: <> I'm also happy to dub the following for blanks and postage or money equivalent for same for the following: TNT Tribute JMDL Video Tree #1 (2 tapes) JMDL Video Tree #2 (2 tapes) A Day in the Garden Joni Mitchell- Misc. Songs and Interviews (gift from Jonifest 2002) Sorry, I don't have the equipment to do PAL copies. Hugs, Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 12:53:37 -0800 (PST) From: Susan Guzzi Subject: Dark Cafe Days Amongst Us! Hey Everybody - Listen Up Please .... Especially those of you in the midwest or plannning to visit in the next month or so. I received an email today from Rob, one of the performers from "Dark Cafe Days" here in Chicago. It would be cool if we all wave hello right now, cause Rob has joined the list! OK not only that, but I have enclosed his email - so that I don't screw up the info - it looks like the Joni cabaret continues with an extension - so anybody for more Chicago festing let me know. The show is great as per my previous review and its a great environment as well. Rob hope you don't mind I passed this along, I did take out a sentence here and there. It would be fun in the spring to visit Chicago and see Rob and Alison and Anne perform this as well as they do! AND they are TOTALLY FUN! It also helps get Joni out there and in the mainstream view, or reacquaints people with her work. And any time we can recruit new admirers or recapture some old ones for The Queen of Mind Beauty - let's get it on! Cause we know if we want to see some of those faves (Blue Motel Room) become standards, we need people to hear it again and again and then they tell two friends and they tell two friends and so on and so on .... So welcome Rob and please feel free to post, I will be talking to you and seeing you soon! Peace, Susan Rob wrote: I have been telling everyone I know about you singing Blue as Ethel. Too funny. I wanted to say thanks again for comin' to the show last week. I'm glad you all liked it. We had some good press there this weekend. I think the Reader is going to feature us as the Critic's Choice this week. So Donna and Sue offered us an extension and I was hoping you could help me get the word out there to the Joni people. I subscibed to the "Only Joni" list - I haven't quite figured out the website or how to reply or post or anything. But I have enjoyed reading all of the stuff. Wish I would have been able to make it to the Wall to Wall Joni thing. Anyway - so next month (and probably May) Foiled Again is doing "Dark Cafe Days" Sundays at 9:00 PM - no show on Easter. $15 cover + 2 drinks. The drink part hasn't seemed to have been a problem for the true Joni fans! Raised on robbery indeed. Talk to you soon - hope you come back and see us again. Rob Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 22:15:19 -0000 From: "Stephen Toogood" Subject: Re: BBC - 'A Woman of Heart and Mind' Yes what's the email address? I think maybe the BBC will show it if enough people email a request. I know it's not the same but the other week Jeremy Vine on R2 played 'Carey' because a lot of people kept emailing him to play more Joni. It made my day. I think I will email him to play 'Raised On Robbery' because the UK need to know that there is more to Joni that 'BYT' and BLUE! STEVE T 'Land of snap decisions Land of short attention spans Nothing is savored Long enough To really understand' NP: 'Jesus Was A Crossmaker' ~ JUDY SILL - BBC live (Thanks to whoever mentioned her name. I like, I like-on my "CD's to buy" list definitely. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "joe farrell" To: Cc: Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 7:50 PM Subject: re: joni mitchell a woman of heart and mind njc > Hi Mick, > > Perhaps if all of us Joni fans in the UK email the beeb they might buy. > > What is the email address? Lets get writing, you never know. > > Thanks for the info Mick. > > Regards, > > Joe. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 22:57:13 +0000 From: "Mick Mick" Subject: Re: Joni Mitchell, A Woman of Heart and Mind Hi Joe, Thanks for taking it up. As a public service, I think they do take note of requests. So it's info@bbc.co.uk. But give them your town and phone number so they see you as genuine. They'll take more notice. Or phone - 08700 100 222. Or write - BBC, PO Box 1922, Glasgow, G2 3WT And if anybody outside the UK would like to be genune too, why not dip into ukphonebook.com? ;) >Hi Mick, > >Perhaps if all of us Joni fans in the UK email the beeb they might buy. > >What is the email address? Lets get writing, you never know. >Hi Mick, > >Perhaps if all of us Joni fans in the UK email the beeb they might buy. > >What is the email address? Lets get writing, you never know. > >Thanks for the info Mick. > >Regards, > >Joe. > > _________________________________________________________________ Surf together with new Shared Browsing http://join.msn.com/?page=features/browse&pgmarket=en-gb&XAPID=74&DI=1059 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 18:22:32 EST From: AzeemAK@aol.com Subject: Re: oscars - now with added jc In a message dated 24/03/2003 23:13:40 GMT Standard Time, revrvl@chartermi.net writes: > I know she has never been nominated, but has > she ever even written a song directly for the screen? Surely Man From Mars would qualify? Indeed it would have been a worthy winner, considering that Andrew Lloyd Webber was a winner that year, and the AOR horrors Diane Warren and Bryan Adams were among the other nominees. I think songs that are a truly integral part of a film should be given the nod over tacked-on-at-the-end-of-the-credits hackery. Azeem in London NP: Talk Talk - The Colour of Spring ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 18:33:20 -0500 From: vince Subject: Re: oscars - now with added jc > I asked: > >> I know she has never been nominated, but has >> she ever even written a song directly for the screen? > Azeem answered > Surely Man From Mars would qualify? Questions (I have no answers today): was Man from Mars written directly for the screen, or just used in the movie? And isn't being written directly for the screen a requirement? And if - and since I suspect but do not know the answers - if (as unlikely as it seems to me) Man from mars was written directly for the movie and not just used in the movie, is it possible that Streisand used industry influence to keep Joni from being nominated because of her jealously and that Babs had Em win because she wanted to have a Adrein Brody-Halle Berry moment with Marshall Mathers? Vince ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 18:46:30 EST From: AzeemAK@aol.com Subject: Re: oscars - now with added jc In a message dated 24/03/2003 23:36:06 GMT Standard Time, revrvl@chartermi.net writes: > Questions (I have no answers today): was Man from Mars written directly > for the screen, or just used in the movie? And isn't being written > directly for the screen a requirement? > > I'm not sure about this, but I'm sure I remember reading somewhere that Joni was approached directly by Allison Anders to write a song for the film; then I recall something about Joni not being able to come up with anything suitable, until her cat disappeared and she was inspired to write Man From Mars. I'm by no means certain of this, and I'm sure someone will know for sure... Azeem in London ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 19:20:00 -0500 From: "patrick leader" Subject: RE: Joni Wall to Wall i'd be interested in this tape, as bob and debra couldn't stop singing the praises of helga davis, who i missed. i'd love if certain parts that i DID hear got taped; i would cream to own a tape of the mingus big band set, which i DID hear. sylvia mcnair is an opera singer who sometimes sings cabaret. i wish i'd heard her. patrick, who needs to write a full report. np - meshell ndegeocello - ecclesiastes: free my heart >far, the most amazing performance of the 5 1/2 hours that I heard >was by Helga Davis, who did a version of The Beat Of Black Wings >that had everyone stunned. > If >anyone on the list taped the concert ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 19:40:04 -0500 From: "patrick leader" Subject: RE: Wall to Wall/My 2 Cents deb wrote: In the 33 years that Wall to Walls have been done, Joni's the first >woman to be so honored. as well, she's the first living composer to be honored. patrick np - peter gabriel - i grieve ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 21:18:36 -0500 From: "Suzanne MarcAurele" Subject: Oh Watchful Ones Amongst the Slaves -SJC If you blow up the attached photo - explain to stupid judgemental me as to why the hands are erased here????? The last person I will ever believe to be a braindead whore will be Mitchell - I often get an uneasy feeling about this woman that the rest of you miss - is she outclassed by the likes of Barbara Streisand for example????? Outclassed by any or an equal? Can she trust anyone? Is the picture meant to play with our minds, with the words - it is sickening enough to listen to all the self-proclaimed one hting or another - comments on anything and everything as if they constituted a common thread I want to reject the common thread but the failure for so many to see what common thread that is emerging is perhaps why pix like this one appears and no one notices i get extremely depressed and the instant soma one night stands dont cure it nothing does for i have seen this common thread of BABEL growing and I wonder... IS THAT HOW IT ENDS? WE BECOME BLIND AND CHATTER UNINTELLIGIBLY ( I HAVE SEEN THIS IN OTHERS FROM TIME TO TIME RECENTLY THEY LAUGH AND SPEAK AND MAKE NO SENSE AND CLEARLY TO THEM THE WORDS DO NOT MATTER) DO ALL THEN RESORT TO ANIMAL INSTINCT? AND AT SUCH A MOMENT, ARE THEY WORTH SAVING, IS LIFE WORTH CONTINUING IN? cant say i have ben less for having been a loner all these years but it gets harder and harder to have much hope when i see what all this social pollution has done to wedge itself in our ranks Will it be our children or our children's children staring at their stolen names? Too heavy? That is what the pied piper wants - is it God or the tempter speaking though it all? Yea too heavy and all I need to find is the strength to save up enough to move out of the environs of ground zero so I can die in dignity - it has me that concerned S. [demime 0.97c removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of 021203rs.jpg] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 18:22:16 -0800 (PST) From: Little Bird Subject: Re: The Younger Generation Well, you have to admit that what's happening now in mainstream music is pretty horrendous. I'd take disco over this generic mumbo-jumbo any day of the week. At least you can dance to disco, get all hot and sweaty in a big afro wig and tight bell-bottoms. Disco is fun! Britney and Whitney and any number of other 'artists' whose names end in "itney" take themselves far too seriously. Hearing Brit say that she sees a lot of growth in her last album was gut-bustingly hilarious. Growth? Tumorous, maybe. Her popularity certainly spread like cancer. I've never tried dancing to "Hit Me Baby" and I never will. I enjoy the odd ABBA song. I enjoy some Donna, some Saturday Night Fever, some Gloria. I think that's mainly because disco is played with some form of intention behind it. Today's hit music is more or less just there to fill up air time. Even during the disco era there were songs to counterbalance its fluff - Joni was at the height of her career during the peak of disco. Now pop is so homogenous and bland that I swear it leaves my mind on permanent defrost. You have to dig pretty deep these days to find a relevant and interesting artist since mainstream culture celebrates a formula. And it's not one I'm all that eager to swallow. - -Andrew Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 22:28:09 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: oscars - now with added jc In a message dated 3/24/2003 6:47:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, AzeemAK@aol.com writes: > I'm not sure about this, but I'm sure I remember reading somewhere that Joni > > was approached directly by Allison Anders to write a song for the film; > then > I recall something about Joni not being able to come up with anything > suitable, until her cat disappeared and she was inspired to write Man From > Mars. I'm by no means certain of this, and I'm sure someone will know for > sure... > Yes, this is the truth-o fact-o. Joni was approached because of Klein's involvement in the film; Joni at first said no, because all she had in her was songs about how bad the music business was. Then her cat split, and the rest is history. Both Joni's original piano version, and Chaka Khan's version are much nicer than the one on TTT, although that one is pretty nice too! Bob NP: "War Is A Science" from Pippin Soundtrack ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 23:49:50 EST From: Ricw1217@aol.com Subject: Re: Oh Watchful Ones Amongst the Slaves -SJC In a message dated 3/24/03 9:19:34 PM, smarcaurele@digitalproquo.com writes: > Yea too heavy and all I need to find is the strength to save up enough to > move out of the environs of ground zero so I can die in dignity - it has me > that concerned > > i'd say all you need is to have your med levels checked. sounds like its time for an itty bitty bit more thorazine... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 00:17:33 EST From: KJHSF@aol.com Subject: my favorite peace song THIS IS A TUNE BY EVERYTHING BUT THE GIRL-VOICE AND PIANO AND OH SO BEAUTIFUL-WISH YOU COULD ALL HEAR IT! The highlands and the lowlands Are the routes my father knows The holidays at Oban And the towns around Montrose But even as he sleeps They're loading bombs into the hills And the waters in the lochs Can run deep but never still I've thought of having children But I've gone and changed my mind It's hard enough to watch the news Let alone explain it to a child To cast your eye 'cross nature Over fields of rape and corn And tell him without flinching Not to fear where he's been born Then someone sat me down last night And I heard Caruso sing He's almost as good as Presley And if I only do one thing I'll sing songs to my father I'll sing songs to my child It's time to hold your loved ones While the chains are loosed and the world Runs wild And even as we speak They're loading bombs onto a white train How can we afford to ever sleep So sound again ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 01:36:43 -0500 From: "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: TNT All-Star Tribute available, was Stupid Question Hi Mary, Welcome to the list. Good news/bad news. The bad news is that you can't buy the "TNT-All Star Tribute to Joni Mitchell" in a store. The good news is that you don't need to. I taped it in stereo from a digital cable connection. Since it's out-of-print, I'll make a stereo dub for ya if you follow these 3 guidelines: 1. Promise to never profit from the material. 2. Send me a blank VHS tape and 3. a note to remind me of what you seek. If you don't have the "Joni & James on the BBC" in 1970, send along a blank CD too. If you want more, there's lots where that came from. As a matter of fact, I'd skip the TNT show at first and go for the 4 VHS tapes of Joni's own tv appearances, Ashara's footage of the show of her visual art "voices", and even her childhood home in Maidstone, SK. For example, there's Joni on the Dick Cavett show the day after the Woodstock festival ended. How cool is that? If you want, I'll make stereo dubs of the "Refuge Of the Road" and "Come In From the Cold" videos for ya too since they are also out-of-print. They total about 1hr, 45 mins. Remember Mary, there are no stupid questions. You're only a "shy newbie" once. Now go buy some blanks and write me, off-list! And now a word about videos that put royalty pennies in Joni's satchel and subsidize flying the grandchildren into Los Angeles to see "Big Momma": The "Shadows and Light" video is available for purchase on ebay from a reputable guy in Hong Kong and it's a compelling document of Joni's jazz singing, the important collaboration with Charles Mingus, and some of the world's finest performances in the singer-songwriter universe. The "Painting With Words and Music" video is available right now for purchase on DVD in North America. It shows Joni dancing it up, some of her paintings, and tons of songs from the "Turbulent Indigo" era that I call "Intellect Engaged". Lama Mary in California asked, >>>Is there a video of the Tribute to joni that was broadcast April 16 2000? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 01:43:36 -0500 From: "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Wanted: Joni At London's Wembley Arena, 1983 This was a very cool show. I have a snowy, mono copy of a copy of a copy. Does someone have a complete, stereo presentation without all the snow? This video hasn't been treed yet, and you guys don't know what you're missing. Who's seen it? Lama Les said,>>>> 1983: Joni performed at London's Wembley Arena which was taped for a broadcast on radio and also filmed for a 60 minute BBC concert special. ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2003 #101 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)