From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2003 #96 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Thursday, March 20 2003 Volume 2003 : Number 096 Sign up now for JoniFest 2003! http://www.jonifest.com ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: WALL TO WALL/talk to me [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] CBC Life & Times broadcast [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] tribute this saturday ??? ["joseph tischner" ] Re: Joni mention in song: [Steve Polifka ] Re: Joni mention in song: [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Joni mention in song: [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Essential Joni literature [Little Bird ] Re: Essential Joni literature [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Today's Library Links: March 18 ["Kate Bennett" ] Music to Drink "Bloodies" by: [Andrew Smith ] Re: Today's Library Links: March 18 [Catherine McKay ] Joni and James Taylor ["Kerry Berghoff" ] Re: CBC Life & Times broadcast ["kakki" ] Wall to Wall logistics [dsk ] Talk To Me [mpredmore@att.net] Today's Library Links: March 20 [ljirvin@jmdl.com] JONI IN SINGAPORE [Cactustree78@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 07:56:25 -0500 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: WALL TO WALL/talk to me In a message dated 3/19/2003 2:47:49 AM Eastern Standard Time, Cactustree78 writes: > Just wanted to know if anyone knows what happened to Joan Osbourne..I thought she was supposed to be playin... Well, she WAS slated originally. Don't know what happened, but I really dig her & was looking forward to her appearance. She's going to be opening for The Dixie Chicks world tour which kicks off in my fair city of Greenville, SC. ..I was thinkin that this is gonna be surreal for BOB > cause it will be like one of his covers cds coming to life :) More like 10 cd's! :~) You're right, it's going to totally rule. I'm still hoping someone who's in the area and can tune it in on WFUV can record it. I'll be happy to do all the transfer work from tape to disc. Bob NP: Joni, "Big Yellow Taxi" Worcester, MA 12/69 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 08:14:27 -0500 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: CBC Life & Times broadcast Thanks to Doug for a copy of the recent 2-part Joni broadcast. Wow! I was really blown away by this show, and enjoyed several jaw-dropping moments, mostly the EARLY recordings of Joni singing folk music, duetting with Chuck, etc. As has been said, LOTS of exclusive never-before-seen-or-heard stuff. Doug, I'm grateful for the sneak preview. Of course I'll be buying the DVD when it comes out, but this was a beautiful surprise and now I'm even more psyched for NYC!! Bob NP: Joni, "Marcie", Mariposa Folk Festival; Toronto 7-26-70 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 08:35:21 -0500 From: "joseph tischner" Subject: tribute this saturday ??? Hey, Just got a phone call from a friend who said there was a joni tribute somewhere in nyc on saturday. Anyone hear about it? I just took a quick scan at the last few days' posts and didn't find anything. Was he just yankin my chain? _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 08:33:00 -0600 From: Steve Polifka Subject: Re: Joni mention in song: I'm not sure if this has been discussed, but what about Jackson Browne's 'Fountain of Sorrow'? I've read somewhere that this song was about Joni, and imho, it sure seems to be possible. just wondering, Steve At 11:26 PM 3/18/03 -0500, SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 3/18/2003 7:26:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, FMYFL@aol.com >writes: > > > I'd post the exact website addy, but my computer is getting some > > botox injections. > >There are two different categories...songs that mention Joni (or one of her >songs): > >HREF="http://www.jonimitchell.com/Lists/SongsMentionJoni/MentionJMYear.htm">http://www.jonimitchell.com/Lists/SongsMentionJoni/MentionJMYear.htm > >Songs about/inspired by Joni: > >HREF="http://www.jonimitchell.com/Lists/InspiredBy/InspiredByJMYear.htm">http://www.jonimitchell.com/Lists/InspiredBy/InspiredByJMYear.htm > >Both are pretty cool lists. > >Bob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 09:55:07 -0500 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni mention in song: In a message dated 3/19/2003 9:33:00 AM Eastern Standard Time, polifkas@milwaukee.tec.wi.us writes: > I'm not sure if this has been discussed, but what about > Jackson Browne's > 'Fountain of Sorrow'? No - this would be on the list of "Songs That Have Nothing Whatsoever To Do With Joni", which as you may have guessed is a much longer list and grows by leaps and bounds every day. http://everyothersongeverwritten.com/ Bob NP: Joni, "Marcie" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 09:55:37 -0500 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni mention in song: In a message dated 3/19/2003 9:33:00 AM Eastern Standard Time, polifkas@milwaukee.tec.wi.us writes: > I'm not sure if this has been discussed, but what about > Jackson Browne's > 'Fountain of Sorrow'? No - this would be on the list of "Songs That Have Nothing Whatsoever To Do With Joni", which as you may have guessed is a much longer list and grows by leaps and bounds every day. http://everyothersongeverwritten.com/ Bob NP: Joni, "Marcie" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 08:29:07 -0800 (PST) From: Little Bird Subject: Essential Joni literature Hi gang, I was trying to think of a list of must-have Joni literature, from books to magazine articles to newspaper items. These are things I would highly recommend to either a long-time Joni fan or someone who wanted to get to know her work. Heres what Ive come up with. Please suggest any others. BOOKS: 1. Shadows and Light  the biography by Karen OBrien Its flawed but no less informative and insightful. There are great photos and good commentary with plenty of very interesting information about Jonis life and career. 2. The Joni Mitchell Companion: Four Decades of Commentary  by Stacy Luftig This is a must-have. Its a collection of Joni-related essays, articles and interviews. There are philosophical essays about the recurring themes in Jonis work, analysis of her lyrics and guitar chords, interviews from obscure publications from decades ago and great photos. 3. Voices: The work of Joni Mitchell  Gilles Hebert, editor; The Mendel Art Gallery This is the only book about Jonis artwork youll probably ever see. It includes wonderful reproductions of Jonis paintings, drawings and photographs, as well reflections on her work by Gilles Hebert, Joni herself, and her friend Amy Adler. MAGAZINE ARTICLES: 1. The Rollingstone Interview  by Cameron Crowe, Rollingstone magazine, July 1979. A fascinating and lengthy interview with Joni, primarily focused on the album Mingus but with a lot of reflection about past works and hopes for future projects. Really insightful! 2. Joni Mitchell  Portrait of the Artist as a Young Woman  Anne Bayin, Elm Street magazine, November 2000. Jonis childhood friend, Anne Bayin, writes a reflection on her days growing up with Joni. Lots of very unique insight about Joni the child with some references to her exhibit at the Mendel in 2000. Rare photos of Joni as a teenager with other personal photos of Anne and Joni as adults, hanging out in the bar at Jonis hotel in Saskatoon. 3. The Unfiltered Joni Mitchell  by Dave DiMartino, MOJO magazine, August 1998. Another great interview that probes into her frustration with the music business, the album Taming the Tiger and her reflections on past works. Rare photos of Joni with Don Freed, Bjork, Graham Nash, Peter Gabriel, Van Halen and plenty of solo photos of Joni through the ages, including some rare ones of her lounging around at home. 4. Jonis Secret: Mother and Child Reunion  by Brian Johnson, Danylo Hawaleshka and Dale Eisler, Macleans magazine, April 1997. The Canadian exclusive about the reunion in Vancouver of Joni with Kilauren. Lots of great information about how it all came to be with the first photos of Joni and daughter, hugging for the first time. NEWSPAPER ARTICLES: 1. From All Sides Now  by Alan Jackson, the Los Angeles Times/the Globe and Mail, March 14, 2000. This is the most comprehensive newspaper feature Ive read about Joni. It consists of an interview with Joni about the album Both Sides Now with reflections on the final stages of her career and some great commentary about her albums. There are also rare photos of Joni at the Bel Air Hotel in Los Angeles, all decked out in Miyake creations. Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 11:42:31 -0500 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Essential Joni literature In a message dated 3/19/2003 11:29:07 AM Eastern Standard Time, littlebird3333@yahoo.com writes: > Please suggest any others. The Goldmine article "From Blue To Indigo" by Wm. Ruhlman, 2/17/95 is considered to be an essential. It is of course in the library (in 2 parts): http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=115 (this is a REAL link!);~) Bob NP: Joni, "Help Me" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 08:57:56 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Re: Today's Library Links: March 18 it sure does seem like yesterday...this was one of our (jeff & me) first dates! he sure knew how to impress me...dylan his fav, joni mine...a match made in heaven! as i've said before, dylan was as superb as joni that night imo... >>Seems just like yesterday. Sigh......... >1998: "Joni Mitchell, Van Morrison will join Dylan on West Coast tour" - San Diego Union-Tribune > (News Item) > http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=322<< ******************************************** Kate Bennett: www.katebennett.com Sponsored by Polysonics/Atlantis Sound Labs Over the Moon- "bringing the melancholy world of twilight to life almost like magic" All Music Guide ******************************************** "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world, indeed it is the only thing that ever has." Margaret Mead ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 12:05:06 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Essential Joni literature SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 3/19/2003 11:29:07 AM Eastern Standard Time, littlebird3333@yahoo.com writes: > > > >>Please suggest any others. >> I'd add Joni Mitchell: The Complete Poems and Lyrics. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 12:09:47 -0500 From: "Maggie McNally" Subject: RE: Today's Library Links: March 18 ...and the one in November was one of my first dates with Ashara...;~) Except she...well, never mind how she felt about Dylan. I was crazy enough (not by JMDL standards, of course) to fly to S.F. for the May performance, and then met up with Ashara and the rest of the gang (including Kenny, bless his soul) in MSG in New York. What a time. Maggie PS Have you thought about your NEJonifest raffle item donation recently? -----Original Message----- From: Kate Bennett [mailto:kate@katebennett.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 11:58 AM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Today's Library Links: March 18 it sure does seem like yesterday...this was one of our (jeff & me) first dates! he sure knew how to impress me...dylan his fav, joni mine...a match made in heaven! as i've said before, dylan was as superb as joni that night imo... >>Seems just like yesterday. Sigh......... >1998: "Joni Mitchell, Van Morrison will join Dylan on West Coast tour" - San Diego Union-Tribune > (News Item) > http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=322<< ******************************************** Kate Bennett: www.katebennett.com Sponsored by Polysonics/Atlantis Sound Labs Over the Moon- "bringing the melancholy world of twilight to life almost like magic" All Music Guide ******************************************** "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world, indeed it is the only thing that ever has." Margaret Mead ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 11:46:46 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: tribute this saturday ??? joseph tischner wrote: > Hey, > Just got a phone call from a friend who said there was a joni tribute > somewhere in nyc on saturday. Anyone hear about it? I just took a quick scan > at the last few days' posts and didn't find anything. > > Was he just yankin my chain? No, he wasn't yanking anything,,,,it's called Wall to Wall, it's 12 hours long, and some of our listers including SCBob are going to be in the audience. Here's the scoop and lineup, and btw you can listen to it in all the poor quality Real Audio has to offer- or on FM radio if you are in NY http://www.symphonyspace.org/genres/eventPage.php?genreId=1&eventId=287 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 15:29:18 -0800 (PST) From: Andrew Smith Subject: Music to Drink "Bloodies" by: Dear fellow JMDL'ers: Yes, I abuse you, yet again, with another "sighting" that I discovered: In the 1980 satirical title, "The Official Preppy Handbook" by Lisa Birnbach, (for all those who don't remember, this was a send-up of all things East Coast Establishment/Top Drawer), the author lists the five best musical selections for a Sunday brunch. These musical selections were considered the best choices as "Music to Drink Bloodies by". "Bloodies" are, of course, Sunday morning Bloody Marys as one nurses a hangover from the previous nights' debauchery: 1. J.S. Bach, Brandenberg Concerti 2. The Beatles, Rubber Soul 3. Handel: Water Music 4. Joni Mitchell, Court and Spark 5. Vivaldi: The Four Seasons Considering the competition, I don't suppose we should feel too bad that C&S only made it to Fourth Place! Cheers Andy Smith Greenbrae, CA ===== Andrew J. Smith andy.smith@iracema.net ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 19:46:15 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Today's Library Links: March 18 --- Kate Bennett wrote: > it sure does seem like yesterday...this was one of > our (jeff & me) first > dates! he sure knew how to impress me...dylan his > fav, joni mine...a match > made in heaven! as i've said before, dylan was as > superb as joni that night > imo... > Yeah, but what did Jeff think of Joni? :) ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 20:03:36 -0600 From: "kerry" Subject: Re: Essential Joni literature I would add the cover story from Acoustic Guitar magazine (Aug. 1996), entitled, "My Secret Place: The guitar odyssey of Joni Mitchell," by Jeffrey Pepper Rodgers. I thought it would be technical reading, but it was fascinating! Kerry NP - Bonnie Raitt - Silver Lining - ----- Original Message ----- From: Little Bird To: Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 10:29 AM Subject: Essential Joni literature > Hi gang, > I was trying to think of a list of must-have Joni literature, from books to magazine articles to newspaper items. These are things I would highly recommend to either a long-time Joni fan or someone who wanted to get to know her work. >Please suggest any others. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 21:15:33 -0700 From: "Kerry Berghoff" Subject: Joni and James Taylor Someone posted a comment about James Taylor's latest album, "October Road" (which IS absolutely delicious, I'd have to agree.). My question is about the past relationship between these two songstrels. I thought I had read it somewhere that they were involved around the "Blue" time period and that a lot of that album referred to their relationship ending. Right? or merely rumor? Just wondering (because I just love them both.) Kerry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 21:23:48 -0800 From: "kakki" Subject: Re: CBC Life & Times broadcast Bob wrote: > Thanks to Doug for a copy of the recent 2-part Joni broadcast. Wow! I was really blown away by this show, and >enjoyed several jaw-dropping moments, mostly the EARLY recordings of Joni singing folk music, duetting with >Chuck, etc. As has been said, LOTS of exclusive never-before-seen-or-heard stuff. Amen! A good JMDLer friend close to the Canadian border TV waves sent me both parts which I got to watch last night at my parents' house since my VCR is broken. Ah so beautiful. Even my mom had me re-winding to replay many parts of it and was oohing and ahhing ;-) It is freaky that Kilauren has Joni's exact speaking voice! I was continually struck throughout with the thought that our Simon (who was duly credited) had a WHOLE lot of input on it. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 01:34:41 -0500 From: dsk Subject: Wall to Wall logistics Here's more info about this Saturday's Joni Wall to Wall in NYC. It feels so frivolous to be writing about it with the war having started. Seems a good use for my anxious energy, though, so here it is. In case someone's missed earlier posts about this extravaganza, check this out: http://www.symphonyspace.org/genres/eventPage.php?genreId=1&eventId=287 Yesterday I went over to Symphony Space and talked to the guy at the box office. Becoming a member for $50 makes getting in MUCH easier. Membership covers that person and one guest. You can "join" via phone or in person through Friday. The box office number is 212-864-5400 and it's open from 11 am to 7 pm. On Saturday there will be two lines, one for "members" and one for "non-members". It's the non-members line that barely moves. When seats are available, members are let in first, and then people on the other line are let in. Since people can't become members on Saturday, they're really stuck in that line. Anyone who's in the members line gets to go in first. There will probably be a lot of activity inside, with people moving around and leaving at any time. One suggestion the ticket seller had for our group is that we pick out an area of the theater and try to meet up there. The lines start forming about 9 am, with the doors opening about 10:30. The seating plan is on their website, so if someone would like to suggest an area to aim for that's fine with me. I imagine the place will be packed all day long, but maybe not since it's the first weekend of the war and lots of people will probably stay home. And it's supposed to rain all day. Then, again, it's NYC, full of intrepid people who insist on doing what they want even when it's raining and there's a war on, so maybe not on the staying home. Plus, it's Joni's music! Once someone goes outside, they have to stand in line again to get back in. I spoke with someone else today who said the longest wait in the members line during previous Wall to Walls was about 1/2 hour, so, again, paying the $50 is a good idea; then if you do go outside it won't take long to get back in. If you're in the other line, it could take hours to get back in. Snack food is available in the building. Not very healthy food is what I was told. I asked if food could be taken into the theater, as in one person go out and bring back lunch for other people. Answer: only if no one sees it. I asked if there would be any Joni stuff for sale and was told probably not, but the performers may be selling their own cds. Bob, maybe you can find some more covers there! There are police all over the city, and some national guardsman in some of the more crowded places. There's even been a policeman standing on my corner for the past few days, with his radio squawking. Maybe he has one of those radiation or chemical detectors on him. I don't know if there will be any unusual security at Symphony Space. Probably not. It's at 95th and Broadway, and all across 96th Street at every avenue all cars and trucks going south are being stopped and searched, so there will be plenty of cops a block away. Plus, 95th is a couple miles from midtown so I doubt anything would be happening there. Anyone who goes into the theater, though, has as her or his first assignment to find out where all the exits are. That's prudent behavior no matter what's going on in the world. There's a huge anti-war rally planned for Saturday, with people gathering at noon at Times Square (42nd Street) and marching downtown, so that will tie up traffic all day, especially on the west side. Anyone driving in, or coming in by train to Penn Station, will need to plan around that. That's it. Sounds like a major adventure to me! I expect the music to be fantastic, and am thinking to start the day very early, get settled in, make a note of where all the exits are, then focus on enjoying the music with my companions, and ignore whatever jostling may be going on. The box office guy recommended area restaurants/bars so I checked them out while I was in the neighborhood and told Patrick L. what I found. I think he'll be making some suggestions on list about that. Debra Shea P.S. I'm leaving off the NJC; even though it's not directly about Joni, there may be Joni-onlies who could use the info. I hope that doesn't offend anyone. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 06:35:02 +0000 From: mpredmore@att.net Subject: Talk To Me Gotta admit: I like it. That line about the Tequila Anaconda is great. A lot to spit out in one line--what my husband hates most about my obsession w/joni: 40 syllables per beat!!! The line that speaks to me most? "You spend every sentence as if it were marked currency." (I can relate--my husband doesn't talk much.) Mary in California "if you want me, I'll be in the bar" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 02:23:52 -0500 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Library Links: March 20 On March 20 the following items were published: 1966: "Mod City Living" - Detroit News (Interview, with photographs) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=429 1976: "Who's frail and blonde and rocks like a bitch?" - Sounds (Review - Concert) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=353 2000: "Both Sides Now" - People (Interview) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=468 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 02:40:03 -0500 From: Cactustree78@aol.com Subject: JONI IN SINGAPORE Hello all.. Im at work and in my business i deal with Asia alot..While i was on hold with Singapore HELP ME came on the hold music..Its nice to see that people in Singapore have good taste...Hope you all are havin a great day..pray if you pray chant if you chant whatever you need to do...****kev**** ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2003 #96 ******************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)