From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2003 #95 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Wednesday, March 19 2003 Volume 2003 : Number 095 Sign up now for JoniFest 2003! http://www.jonifest.com ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Talk to Me [colin ] Re: Talk to Me [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Today's Library Links: March 18 [Jerry Notaro ] Re: assorted ramblings [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Laurel Canyon and a Joni Sighting [Andrew Smith ] Re: joni on npr SJC [Alison E ] Re: Laurel Canyon and a Joni Sighting [Murphycopy@aol.com] Re: joni on npr SJC [Murphycopy@aol.com] RE: joni on npr SJC ["Maggie McNally" ] Joni mention in song: [KJHSF@aol.com] Re: Joni mention in song: [FMYFL@aol.com] Re: talk to me [Catherine McKay ] Re: assorted ramblings vljc [Catherine McKay ] Re: assorted ramblings vljc [Murphycopy@aol.com] Re: assorted ramblings vljc [Catherine McKay ] Re: Joni mention in song: [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] A couple of free Joni covers [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Today in History: March 19 [ljirvin@jmdl.com] Today's Library Links: March 19 [ljirvin@jmdl.com] WALL TO WALL/talk to me [Cactustree78@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 08:24:21 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: Talk to Me Kerry Berghoff wrote: > but the lyrics seem to be more juvenile than the usual >Joni tune (ie, "til I pissed a tequila-anaconda") and much less "visually >inspiring" for me than her average song. And the chicken squawk has got to >go! > welcome to thelist kerry. I love this song and have a different view altogether. I find it amusing, a good giggle with some real truth in it about people. bw colin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 08:08:51 -0500 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Talk to Me In a message dated 3/17/2003 11:07:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, kilauren@msn.com writes: > I am sure I've heard it before, but this is probably my least listened-to > album (next to Mingus) and I couldn't seem to remember > it... Hiya Kerry, and welcome! Thanks for the intro. Don Juan's Reckless Daughter may not be Joni's most accessible record, but it's a veritable treasure chest waiting to be opened, so continue to plunder it. If you're like me you'll find your tastes changing as you continue to listen and read the thoughts of this fine crew. As for Joni's 'brain paintings', "Harry's House" is certainly one of her finest. "A Strange Boy" is one that comes to my mind when I think of strong visuals. Looking forward to much more from you! Bob NP: Joni, "Eastern Rain", WMMR-FM ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 08:27:48 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Today's Library Links: March 18 Seems just like yesterday. Sigh......... ljirvin@jmdl.com wrote: >On March 18 the following item was published: > > >1998: "Joni Mitchell, Van Morrison will join Dylan on West Coast tour" - San Diego Union-Tribune > (News Item) > http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=322 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 09:14:19 EST From: ZZScotty@aol.com Subject: assorted ramblings I don't post often, but I've been inspired of late. About a month ago, Lama re-listed his list of essential Joni works; amongst being: "bShadows and Light', (1980) in its unedited edition (including the skating video) available on region-free DVD from a guy in Hong Kong who lists auctions on (ebay)." Volume 2003, Number 102. I bought this as my first DVD, receiving it 2 weeks later, registered mail, from Singapore. I've never seen Joni live in concert. It's a masterpiece. I'm floored. In awe. Joni is a goddess. Thanks, Jim. The first Joni piece I remember is Both Sides Now by Judy Collins. I first really listened to Joni in the summer of 1970. Ladies of the Canyon. I remember listening to her at the anti-war collective where I later lived. It was at the end of high school. Joni became a guiding light for me. Back when I was a cab driver. My best friend and I used to sit in his apartment, drink somewhat wine and listen to Joni. Up to, and including, Court & Spark. But somehow, I because separated from Joni's music for a long time. Fast forward to Ogallala, Nebraska. In a heavy snowstorm, we're driving to Wisconsin for thanksgiving. We stop at the truck stop, and I'm thinking we need some good road tunes. Find Dog Eat Dog in a cassette. Fall in love with Joni all over again. And I still love Dog Eat Dog. Then I find ebay, and buy a bunch of used Joni CD's from one of the list members. You know who you are, Janine. She turns me on to the list, where I mostly lurk & listen. I have all her CD's except Hits and the Big Yellow Taxi single. Joni is 95% of the music I listen to right now. I guess you'd say I'm somewhat obsessed. I travel with a CD case consisting of 18 or 20 Cd's, I listen to her at work, in the car . . . I take shelter in Joni. I had a head injury from a high-speed auto accident 15 years ago, and have suffered major depression and memory-related problems. I find shelter in Joni's music, I use her to tune out problems. She's my travelling companion. Watching Shadows & Light has really been amazing to me. I love her even more. Tunes or words? I get into both. I understand why people don't like Dog Eat Dog. They are forgiven. No offense, Bob. This morning, someone instant messaged me on AOL, and asked what I was doing. I told him listening to Joni Mitchell and his reply was "who's that?" This always floors me. I don't understand why everyone in western civilization doesn't know her. I told him that she is a "singer-songwriter goddess." Then I sent him a link. My most-listened to CD's: Chalk Mark, Night Ride Home, Taming the Tiger, Misses, Wild Things Run Fast, Shadows & Light, Turbulent Indigo, Don Juan's Reckless Daughter. To a lesser degree: Hejira, Mingus, Both Sides Now, Travelog. They all get played, though. The only song I don't like is from her first album. It grates on my nerves. No need to mention the name, many people love it. A major goal in my life is to see Joni in concert. A note about over-use of acronyms. I subscribe to the full digest. I see abbreviations in folk's messages, I sometimes have no idea what they're talking about. My mind goes blank. Especially with the lesser-used acronyms. It's frustrating. Sometimes I have to stop my reading process and try to remember - sometimes I can't, and I just forget the post and go on to the next. I get over it, just something to consider. I'm grateful that the list has become less political. Just in sheer volume, I could hardly keep up. And it was divisive. I started frowning at people's screen names just by seeing them, because I knew what was coming. And they're folks I had respected, and still do. (I still look forward to reading an intelligent political post on occasion.) Thank Joni. God Bless good people everywhere; may the war be short. Sean basking in 8 or 9" of snow in Denver, and it's still coming like a banshee - hooray now playing & watching: shadows & light dvd ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 14:28:39 +0000 From: emil thompson Subject: talk to me could someone just remind me which album 'talk to me' is on, then I can add my own rant to the pot.. best emil ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 10:15:51 -0500 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: assorted ramblings In a message dated 3/18/2003 9:14:19 AM Eastern Standard Time, ZZScotty writes: > Tunes or words? I get into both. I understand why people don't like Dog Eat > Dog. They are forgiven. No offense, Bob. None taken at all, my friend. Thanks for the wonderful delurk, Sean. You need to share more. I don't understand why everyone in western civilization > doesn't know her. > Well, it's like you yourself stated, Sean...your first Joni connection was through Judy Collins! Probably most would make a similar claim. The only MAJOR hit Joni's had was "Help Me", so to most folks she's nothing more than a one-hit wonder, although I've found that more associate her with Big Yellow Taxi than with anything else, probably because of it's longevity on the music scene. > A major goal in my life is to see Joni in concert. I hope you get to fulfill the goal. I've seen her twice and thoroughly enjoyed both shows! > > A note about over-use of acronyms. I subscribe to the full digest. I see > abbreviations in folk's messages, I sometimes have no idea what they're > talking about. A suggestion, and this is in terms of your memory problem. Why not just make a running list of the acronyms and keep it beside your computer and use it as a reference? I can relate to what you're saying, when I signed up for a Springsteen digest I read through post after post with Springsteen songs and records all in acronyms & I was totally lost. I eventually caught up, like I did here, but with your handicap it's a different issue. I'll be glad to put together a list for you if you like. And if you listen to 95% Joni (and God bless ya for doing so), you DEFINITELY need to go 'on beyond Z' and pick up some of the many concerts, unplugged appearances, demos, rarities, etc. Bob NP: Joni, "Both Sides Now" Second Fret 3/17/67 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 08:43:23 -0800 (PST) From: Andrew Smith Subject: Laurel Canyon and a Joni Sighting Dear fellow JMDL'ers, (it feels great to say that!): I confess to wanting a bit of escapism after Bush's speech last night, so I went to see the film "Laurel Canyon", mainly on account of some of the postings on this list. I was very pleasantly surprised with it. Although the setting is current times, it very definitely evokes the feeling of the "Ladies of the Canyon" era of the late 1960's, early 1970's, as the Director/Writer said were her intentions. IMHO, the settings were absolutely perfect in their details, (i.e. shabby-chic houses perched on hillsides with killer views and secluded swimming pools, overgrown "wild" gardens and landscapes, recording studios in the back yard, WILD parties at poolside, AND in spite of everything, the garages all had Porsches and Mercedes in them...this IS L.A. after all)! AND a Joni Sighting (has this already been added to the site?) as Kate Beckinsale peruses the photos on Jane's, (Frances McDormond) "wall of fame", and sees her posed with JM herself! Also, at the end credits, in the list of people to thank, was very prominently included "Joni Mitchell". Anyway, in my totally unqualified and completely biased opinion, it is a Must See. Everyone, TRY to have a good week, in spite of everything and Cheers, Andy Smith Greenbrae, CA ===== Andrew J. Smith andy.smith@iracema.net ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 12:40:06 -0800 (PST) From: Alison E Subject: Re: joni on npr SJC - --- JMDL Digest wrote:Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 22:59:50 -0700 From: Dan Olson Subject: Joni mention on NPR, Refuge of the Roads tidbit On All Things Considered today (Saturday), in a piece >on rap or some >rap artist (I wasn't really paying attention) someone >mentioned something >like >"...it's not like we're selling 4 million albums like >Joni Mitchell..." i also heard a joni tidbit on npr..what a coincidence! it was yesterday, during talk of the nation i think, they used a chunk of "just like this train". just a bit of the music, no lyric. it made me smile, especially on a day when i found out i might have to have my tonsils out !?! at the age of 31 !?!. alison e. in slc, breaking a recent record by posting twice in one day. np: James taylor, october road. an un-f*cking-believably good album. Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 16:51:49 EST From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: Laurel Canyon and a Joni Sighting Andy Smith writes: << AND a Joni Sighting (has this already been added to the site?) as Kate Beckinsale peruses the photos on Jane's, (Frances McDormond) "wall of fame", and sees her posed with JM herself! Also, at the end credits, in the list of people to thank, was very prominently included "Joni Mitchell". >> Thanks, Andy! I will add this info to the Joni in Fiction part of the JMDL site. I was aware of the film and posted about it a couple of weeks ago ("Incidentally, the writer/director admits to formulating "Laurel Canyon" whilst listening to Joni Mitchell's 'Ladies of the Canyon' album."), but I did not know that Joni was actually *in* it. Thanks, --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 16:58:31 EST From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: joni on npr SJC Alison writes: << i found out i might have to have my tonsils out !?! at the age of 31 !?!. >> Now *there's* a raffle item for Jonifest! Please, Alison, send the little buggers to Maggie for the raffle. You'll be helping your JMDL community raise thousands of dollars and maybe some ambitious JMDLer will even clone you. XO, --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 17:00:30 -0500 From: "Maggie McNally" Subject: RE: joni on npr SJC eeeewwwwwwwwwwww -----Original Message----- From: Murphycopy@aol.com [mailto:Murphycopy@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 4:59 PM To: alisone4@yahoo.com; joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: joni on npr SJC Alison writes: << i found out i might have to have my tonsils out !?! at the age of 31 !?!. >> Now *there's* a raffle item for Jonifest! Please, Alison, send the little buggers to Maggie for the raffle. You'll be helping your JMDL community raise thousands of dollars and maybe some ambitious JMDLer will even clone you. XO, --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 18:23:54 EST From: KJHSF@aol.com Subject: Joni mention in song: I just picked up the brand new Kim Fox CD (a fantastic singer/songwriter with a girlie-girl vocal style and an incredible musicality). The first verse of the first song on the CD is this: I was at the well wishing for a good omen When into my hand did you fly Like Joplin and JONI, California dreaming Feel a small tickle did I Do we have a Joni in song department? Do we file this in Joni in fiction? Of course, there are other mentions of Joni in song: "Oh-oh! 'My favorite song,' she said, and it was Joni singing, 'Help Me..." Prince/The Ballad of Dorothy Parker "Now I don't have the soul of Joni, and I cannot picture myself like Miss Laura" Melissa Manchester/Funny That Way Any others? Ken ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 19:25:42 EST From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni mention in song: In a message dated 3/18/03 6:25:20 PM Eastern Standard Time, KJHSF@aol.com writes: << Do we have a Joni in song department? Do we file this in Joni in fiction? >> Hi Ken, the Joni in song dept. is at JoniMitchell.com compiled by Simon. He might not know about the new Kim Fox CD, but he does have a large list (including Melissa Manchester) on the JM site. You can email him directly from there. I'd post the exact website addy, but my computer is getting some botox injections. This OLD one I have for backup won't even let me access the internet. It's the kind you have to write your own program and get all those computer punch out cards (from my computer science class in 1977) :~) Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 20:10:26 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: talk to me --- emil thompson wrote: > could someone just remind me which album 'talk to > me' is on, then I > can add my own rant to the pot.. > Emil, it's on Don Juan's Reckless Daughter - lyrics can be found here: http://www.jmdl.com/lyrics/talktome.cfm Rant away! ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 20:29:18 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: assorted ramblings vljc --- ZZScotty@aol.com wrote: > I don't post often, but I've been inspired of late. What a nice post that was! Once more, for the record, (ftr? not to be confused with the other FTR that is either Joni's "For the roses" or that floral delivery service), I hate acronyms too (as so many people here have heard before ha ha) and it has nothing to do with head injuries or memory problems. It's just too much information for my burnt-out brain. I work in a place where there are acronyms coming out the ying-yang and my brain just refuses to deal with anymore, or maybe it's just obstinacy. It took me years before I memorized my SIN (social insurance number, which is Canadian for social security or whatever you call it there - I kind of like SIN though, heh-heh). Some of them (acronyms) I've come to recognize from seeing them so many times - in the case of DJRD, I prefer the acronym to the full name because I can never remember whether it's Don Juan's Restless, or Wreckless, or Reckless, Daughter. Every time I see ACOY I think of the fish in my sister's backyard. STAS sounds like a medical term (STAT from the Latin statim meaning "right away") or like the Latin word that means "you stand". And so on. ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 21:03:15 EST From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: assorted ramblings vljc CM writes: << I work in a place where there are acronyms coming out the ying-yang and my brain just refuses to deal with anymore >> Acronyms coming out the ying-yang -- AKA: ACOYY -- can be a problem. Check out this site when it all gets to be too much: << http://www.acronymfinder.com >> BTW -- GL! XO, --BM (NTNO!) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 22:02:46 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: assorted ramblings vljc --- Murphycopy@aol.com wrote: > CM writes: > > << http://www.acronymfinder.com >> > It found two out of the five I looked up. I was semi-impressed that it found any of them. It didn't find either of the two Joni song acronyms I tried (what kind of a crap website IS that anyway?) Nor did it find SIQUOMB. Most of the time, I don't care enough to bother looking things up and I just make up my own definitions. Usually I like mine better. (Not that I'm an egomaniac or anything - sheesh! da noiva some people!) I prefer to think of Siquomb as being some Haida god or something. I was disappointed when I found out it was a freakin' acronym! I'm glad Joni moved past that. ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 23:26:33 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni mention in song: In a message dated 3/18/2003 7:26:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, FMYFL@aol.com writes: > I'd post the exact website addy, but my computer is getting some > botox injections. There are two different categories...songs that mention Joni (or one of her songs): http://www.jonimitchell.com/Lists/SongsMentionJoni/MentionJMYear.htm Songs about/inspired by Joni: http://www.jonimitchell.com/Lists/InspiredBy/InspiredByJMYear.htm Both are pretty cool lists. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 23:35:30 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: A couple of free Joni covers No, you don't have to guess anything, just go point & click: From 1968, a live version from Denver, Boise, & Johnson: http://www.mjblue.com/mjclips.html And BSN done in Vietnamese: http://209.172.66.142/phamduy/loiviet/rock.html Enjoy, Bob NP: The latter of the 2 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 02:07:55 -0500 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today in History: March 19 1967: Joni and Gordon Lightfoot were interviewed in Philadelphia by Gene Shay. More info: http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=609 1968: Joni met Jimi Hendrix in Ottawa, Canada. Hendrix drummer Mitch Mitchell wrote "We heard of this great singer in town, called Joni Mitchell ... so we went to this little folk club (Le Hibou) after our gig (at the Capitol Theatre) with Hendrix's tape machine. We were amazed. She was wonderful." Jimi wrote in his diary "Went down to the little club to see Joni - fantastic girl with heaven words - we all go to party - OK - millions of girls. Listen to tapes and smoked back at hotel." In 1994 Joni told Rolling Stone: "I met Jimi Hendrix at the Capitol Theatre in Ottawa, and after his set, he came down, and he brought a big reel-to reel tape recorder. He introduced himself very shyly and said, "Would you mind if I taped your show?" I said, not at all. And later that evening, we went back, we were staying at the same hotel. He and his drummer Mitch, the three of us were talking. It was so innocent. But the management, all they saw was three hippies. We were outcasts anyway! . A black hippie! Two men and a woman in the same room. So they kept telling us to play lower. It was a very creative, special night. We were playing like children." More info: http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=733 http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=19 http://www.digitalhighway.co.uk/axis/reviews/1052.asp - ---- For a comprehensive reference to Joni's appearances, consult Joni Mitchell ~ A Chronology of Appearances: http://www.jonimitchell.com/appearances.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 02:07:55 -0500 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Library Links: March 19 On March 19 the following items were published: 1967: "Interview with Gene Shay" - WMMR (Interview - Audio Transcription) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=609 1998: "Representatives All Agree on Tour" - Ticketmaster Live Daily website (News Item) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=384 2000: "Joni Mitchell carries a torch" - Toronto Sun (Review - Album) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=471 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 02:47:49 -0500 From: Cactustree78@aol.com Subject: WALL TO WALL/talk to me Hello all!! Just wanted to know if anyone knows what happened to Joan Osbourne..I thought she was supposed to be playin...I mean there are plenty of others to get excited about but I really like her..I was thinkin that this is gonna be surreal for BOB cause it will be like one of his covers cds coming to life :) Also, for the record, I LOVE the song Talk to Me I just hate the sqwuakin part at the end..I dont find the song to be about Joni begging someone, just tryin to loosen up someone who isnt AS chatty as she.. Hope you all are havin a great day, we are havin some great weather out here in the "tri-state area" so if you have some great weather, its time to take the Joni outside..I suggest Court and Spark, chillin in the grass,overlookin a lake.. I checked the weather for tomorrow 40 YUKK i guess itll be Hejira in my room :) Peace love and light to all you jmdlers ****kevin**** ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2003 #95 ******************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)