From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2003 #92 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Sunday, March 16 2003 Volume 2003 : Number 092 Sign up now for JoniFest 2003! http://www.jonifest.com ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- percussionist in Joni's performances ["Rache A" ] Re: 'Talk To Me' ["Stephen Toogood" ] Video's [emil thompson ] Channel 5 rhymes with jive ["James Leahy" ] Re: Channel 5 rhymes with jive [Catherine McKay ] Re: Back to T'log [Little Bird ] Laurel Canyon: the movie ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: Chinese Cafe ["Mark or Travis" ] RE: Miles of Aisles query [Lazyasz@aol.com] Joni mention on NPR, Refuge of the Roads tidbit [Dan Olson ] Re: Channel 5 rhymes with jive [Penny ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 20:35:55 -0500 From: "Rache A" Subject: percussionist in Joni's performances I read a little thing about a percussionist Vito Rezza who said he has performed with Joni. I've never come across his name before, and I'm wondering if anyone can help me out there. Rachel - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 01:38:30 -0000 From: "Stephen Toogood" Subject: Re: 'Talk To Me' 'Talk To Me' is to me one of the worst Joni songs! The lyrics sounds corny and the music sounds kind of samey. I do however know people who like it so the song is not wasted. Steve T ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 01:49:02 +0000 From: emil thompson Subject: Video's Hello All, I've never been on one of these lists before feels kinda strange talking to lotsa peeps at once. Massive Joni fan since I was a teenager (wanted to marry her an all that) anyway to cut to the chase I have a couple of neat Joni vids and an audio interview available. To check it out go here http://www.lessismore.co.uk all best to you all from the UK. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 21:10:07 -0500 From: "James Leahy" Subject: Channel 5 rhymes with jive I figured the only reason Joni chose "Channel Five" was because it rhymed with the previous line: "given some wisdom and a lot of jive." In fact, a lot of Joni's word choices are based on rhythm, cadence, and rhyme. Perhaps we could start a thread on some of Joni's lyrics that don't really mean anything but were chosen to fit a rhyme scheme. How about 'pachyderm' and 'germs'? My hunch about 'ghost of my old ideals' was that it was the Celebration at Big Sur film, especially the scene where she's talking about the whale that was beached up the day before. Trippy! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 21:24:54 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Channel 5 rhymes with jive --- James Leahy wrote: > I figured the only reason Joni chose "Channel Five" > was because it rhymed > with the previous line: "given some wisdom and a lot > of jive." Oh, c'mon. don't be such a poop! She could've changed "jive" to rhyme with another number. Like this: - - lot of poo, channel two - - lot of pee, channel three (OK, enough toilet humour) - - wisdom and an unlocked door, channel four - - lot of sticks, channel six - - stairway to heaven, channel seven - - heavy date, channel eight - - Nine, ten, a big fat hen. In fact, a > lot of Joni's word choices are based on rhythm, > cadence, and rhyme. Perhaps > we could start a thread on some of Joni's lyrics > that don't really mean > anything but were chosen to fit a rhyme scheme. How > about 'pachyderm' and > 'germs'? Did somebody mention "pachyderm"? Are you trying to start something? ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 18:26:11 -0800 (PST) From: Little Bird Subject: Re: Back to T'log Thanks for getting back to Travelogue, Bob. My copy of it is now safely tucked away in the lower cabinet of my shelving unit. It's run its course with me. I'm not sure if Joni thinks she is all used up. Sometimes the muse abandons you (a fallow period) and yet the call of music is still intriguing so you do what you can to fufill your yearning to be musical, even if it means reworking old material. I think Travelogue is a valliant effort but I also think that, somewhere, Joni knew that it would be met with a lot of skepticism and criticism. I think she is probably proud of it but knows it's not one of her best efforts. I think the main problem is that it's too ambitious a project - too bloated and heavy. No one I know would ever go out and buy this album unless they were a fan of Joni's. Its audience is limited and even within this pool of fans there are detractors who think it's horrendous. If there were 10 or 12 songs it would be a bit more easy to take but when I think about sitting down to listen to the entire album I get daunted, like sitting down to read Chaucer or Milton. It feels like work to me. So I pluck the songs I like from it and leave the rest for others to enjoy. I'm glad I've got Be Cool, Flat Tires, Hejira, Refuge and Otis and Marlena, after all. The really big, epic songs like Sire of Sorrow and Slouching are too much. I expect a new album of fresh material from Joni will be on its way to us in due time. - -Andrew - --- SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: > I really joined in again to see what the die-hards > all > thought, but things have been eerily silent on the > subject. > > > 'Cuz our Mama's taught us - "if you can't say > something nice about something, > don't say anything at all" ;~) > > OK, not totally true about the lackluster (to me) > T'log. Firstly, it's > disappointing to me that Joni must consider herself > 'used up' to continue to > recycle her old material. By doing so, she's just > playing into the hands of > the biz that says that when a performer hits 6-0 or > thereabouts they're good > for revues and that's about it. Personally I think > Joni is capable of her > best work yet, so I wish she would push herself > harder than she's doing, > working with the same songs, the same players, and > adding Mendoza's > predictable & mostly tiresome arrangements to some > of her best work. > > On the upside, I LOVE what she does with "Flat > Tires", she should have > employed Billy Preston's organ-playing more than she > does, and I also love > her expansion of the audio colors on "Dawntreader". > Both of these tracks hint > at what a creative expression Travelogue COULD HAVE > been, instead of the > tedium that it actually is. > > Of course, lots of folks here love every nanosecond > of it, and I couldn't be > happier for them. > > Bob > > NP: Jackson Browne, "These Days", live '73 Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online http://webhosting.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 18:40:30 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Laurel Canyon: the movie haven't seen the movie but i watched 'city by the sea' & frances mcdormand is truly amazingly different looking than her previous roles in 'fargo' & 'almost famous'- reminds me of how daniel day lewis looks so different in different roles... >>the writer/director wasn't sure the actress was right for the part. "She got ahold of the script. "I thought it was an interesting idea, but I didn't realize that she looked the way she does now." Imagining the Coen brothers' sometime leading lady still looking like Marge Gunderson, the pregnant Midwestern cop in "Fargo," or the overprotective mom in Cameron Crowe's "Almost Famous," the San Fernando Valley native was unprepared for how perfect McDormand would turn out to be. << ******************************************** Kate Bennett: www.katebennett.com Sponsored by Polysonics/Atlantis Sound Labs Over the Moon- "bringing the melancholy world of twilight to life almost like magic" All Music Guide ******************************************** "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world, indeed it is the only thing that ever has." Margaret Mead ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 20:17:46 -0800 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: Chinese Cafe It suddenly > occurred to me that she is singing the words of Unchained Melody to > her daughter. > I hunger for your touch-i pray god brings your love to me(or something > like that). It makes sense to me anyway. It makes sense to me too, Colin. 'Oh my love, my darling I've hungered for your touch A long lonely time Time goes by so slowly And time can do so much Are you still mine? I need your love I need your love God speed your love to me' Think about those lyrics in relation to Joni's giving up that child. It's been a long, lonely time since she carried that baby. Time has gone by and that baby is not a baby anymore. Time can do so much. Can she really say that the child is hers anymore? (Are you still mine?). She needs to be reconnected. She longs for that love that she's never known and prays she will have it one day. I completely agree with you, Colin. Mark E in Seattle - --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.462 / Virus Database: 261 - Release Date: 3/13/2003 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 23:41:12 EST From: Lazyasz@aol.com Subject: RE: Miles of Aisles query I always thought it was, "And me...the truth..." ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 22:59:50 -0700 From: Dan Olson Subject: Joni mention on NPR, Refuge of the Roads tidbit On All Things Considered today (Saturday), in a piece on rap or some rap artist (I wasn't really paying attention) someone mentioned something like "...it's not like we're selling 4 million albums like Joni Mitchell..." Also, I noticed in Refuge of the Roads on T'Log, the line "I'll shine on your witness taking refuge IN the roads" replaced the original "Shine on your witness in the refuge OF the roads". Cheers. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 02:29:14 -0500 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Library Links: March 16 On March 16 the following item was published: 2002: "Renaming auditorium not a great idea" - Saskatoon StarPhoenix (Opinion) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=759 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 23:46:10 -0800 From: "kakki" Subject: Re: Today's Library Links: March 16 Oooo!! Meow > 2002: "Renaming auditorium not a great idea" - Saskatoon StarPhoenix > (Opinion) > http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=759 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 23:51:39 -0800 (PST) From: Penny Subject: Re: Channel 5 rhymes with jive James Leahy wrote: >My hunch about 'ghost of my old ideals' was that it was the Celebration at Big Sur film, especially the scene where she's talking about the whale that was beached up the day before. Trippy! Every time I've ever heard "Last night the ghosts of my old ideals re-ran on channel 5", I picture Joni, bored in some Southwest hotel room on her trip back to the coast, flipping through the tv dial and when she hit channel 5 she ran into a James Dean pic, either Giant or Rebel Without A Cause. But that's just me. Penny Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online http://webhosting.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2003 #92 ******************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)