From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2003 #70 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Thursday, February 27 2003 Volume 2003 : Number 070 Sign up now for JoniFest 2003! http://www.jonifest.com ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Grammys ... Joni, Shawn, James, Norah ["kakki" ] State of The jmdl am i too late?? [Cactustree78@aol.com] Re: Re-Woodstock [Deb Messling ] Norah Jones & Joni; the moron from Limp Bizcit; Sheryl Crow as a hooker [] Re: I hit on Joni.....and the result was.... [Catherine McKay ] Walk on the Moon/Liev Schrieber/ RE: Cactus Tree ["Blair Fraipont" ] Swimming Pool Joni ["Blair Fraipont" ] "All I want" cover/DVDs ["vincenzo mancini" ] dreaming with joan [twoshoes@sasktel.net] Re: "All I want" cover/DVDs [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] ear worms SJC [FMYFL@aol.com] speaking of dreams of joni [twoshoes@sasktel.net] Re: Re-Sweet Sucker Dance, comming to the list. [MINGSDANCE@aol.com] Re: I hit on Joni.....and the result was.... ["mack watson-bush" ] Re: ear worms SJC [Murphycopy@aol.com] Re: Re-Sweet Sucker Dance, comming to the list. [MINGSDANCE@aol.com] Re: ear worms ["mack watson-bush" ] Re: Joni CD-R Tree [Doug ] Re: ear worms - Impossible Dreamer [Dan Olson ] Re: ear worms SJC [Little Bird ] Re: sucker, grammies and best and worst.... [Gerald Notaro ] Re: Joni CD-R Tree [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Swimming Pool Joni [Nuriel Tobias ] re: State of the List [Les Irvin ] Re: Dreaming of Joni and gushing ["michael o'malley" ] RE: Re-Woodstock ["patrick leader" ] The State of the List [Gary Zack ] Re: TEST ["chuty001" ] Re: JMDL Digest V2003 #145 - Serious and satirical civility and the lack thereof [BRYAN884] Today in History: February 27 [ljirvin@jmdl.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 00:49:07 -0800 From: "kakki" Subject: Re: Grammys ... Joni, Shawn, James, Norah Fred wrote: > Like a broken clock which is correct two times a day, the Grammys occasionally get it right. I was stunned watching the other night. I can't remember ever feeling so actually uplifted by watching a Grammy show, ever. Sounds corny I know, but wow, it was a good one. Loved Tony Bennett's recognition of Norah and was so happy for John Mayer, too. I could hear Joni cheering somewhere out there, too ;-) Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 05:33:52 -0500 From: Cactustree78@aol.com Subject: State of The jmdl am i too late?? HELLO!!! Ive been outta commission for a bit (=knee surgery, im fine) but im catching up on my digests and I just have to give the list a great big I LOVE YOU...And I mean that in the most sincere way..We have all been brought together by the amazing music of Joni Mitchell..In a world full of dissagreement we should be happy that ALL of us can at least agree on one thing JONI!!!!! And to me thats what makes the jmdl soo special..Again I hope all of you are doin great!! Ive missed the jmdl alot...peace, love and light to everyone..****Kev**** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 06:52:29 -0500 From: Deb Messling Subject: Re: Re-Woodstock I was one of several JMDLers who attended. I think the consensus of the group was that the Woodstock performance was one of the best in Joni's recent history. Her voice was in great shape that day. At 02:35 PM 2/25/03 -0500, you wrote: >Great post Ming! I'm curious....I had only been a jmdler for about 6 months >when Joni performed at "A Day in the Garden" on 8-15-98. Did any other >jmdlers attend, and if so what did they think of Joni's performance? - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Deb Messling -^..^- messling@enter.net - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.445 / Virus Database: 250 - Release Date: 1/21/03 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 07:12:38 EST From: Aerchak@aol.com Subject: Norah Jones & Joni; the moron from Limp Bizcit; Sheryl Crow as a hooker I may have mentioned this before, but perhaps I wrote it offline to someone. Or maybe it isn't relevant. I bought the Norah jones cd because Joni said she liked her in the December W magazine article. This seems germane to me as I figure there has to be something there. Did anyone else read the article or remember this? It's in the JMDL library. My favorite pitiful grammies moment was when the lead singer of Limp Bizcit, Fred Durst (I can't believe I know his name) said " I hope we are all in AGREENESS" about this war thing or being against the war. I cannot stand it when entertainers make political statements on awards shows. Why would anyone care about what this idiot had to say? He wasn't even accepting an award but presenting one. But he actually said "agreeness" instead of "agreement". I was on the phone with my friend, Rob, from TX, and we just howled. Not only is he so arrogant and self righteous, but stupid, and I would bet a year's salary he doesn't know one thing about the issues. Did Sheryl Crow actually want to look like a hooker? And with her big diamond peace sign, I thought I would puke. Shallow. Please, don't take from this that I am pro war or take this as any kind of a political statement. It is not. I would never post any of my feelings about the pending war in this forum. These people just irk me. Andrea ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 07:30:31 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: I hit on Joni.....and the result was.... --- bill johnson wrote: > Hi all. Been reading your minds for the last 2 years > and thought I'd > contribute some JC. I was at a large park for a > picnic when I ran into Joni > herself!!! And alone!!! .....it was all a > dream. But then you > already could tell it was a dream cuz she was w/out > a cigarette in hand!!! > Any thoughts or analyses are welcome. Anybody else > dream of Joni? You stinker! You had ME going, that's for sure. I've never had a dream about Joni, but I know some listers have. ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 07:41:35 EST From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: Feb. 26th In a message dated 2/26/03 7:00:45 AM Eastern Standard Time, anima_rising@yahoo.ca writes: > and speaking of birthdays, I just *happen to know* > that today is KATE BENNETT'S birthday - so HB to KB! > > Damn Catherine, here Wally's in the U.S. and I'm slacking. Thanks for bringing it up. Happy Birthday Kate! You're so beautiful, talented, and possess the biggest heart of anyone I know. Jeff's a lucky man! xoxo Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 08:14:27 -0500 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: a strange boy In a message dated 2/26/2003 5:44:08 PM Eastern Standard Time, jpalis@kssp.upd.edu.ph writes: > Blue Motel Room - she can flesh out the late-night feel of > the song That does jump out as the obvious choice, and of course being a BIG fan of this song I'd welcome it. But if I had my druthers, I would prefer to hear her do something from the FTR songbook, maybe Barangrill. Blonde In The Bleachers would also be nice, it's been covered but all the vocal versions are weird. Bob NP: Daniel Lanois, "The Unbreakable Chain" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 08:20:14 -0500 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: I hit on Joni.....and the result was.... In a message dated 2/26/2003 1:01:02 AM Eastern Standard Time, geined57@hotmail.com writes: > it was all a dream. You had me going too, Bill! Even after Clark pulled one leg with his "Strange Boy" story, and Jimmy pulled the other with his skating story, I remain as gullible as ever - fished in! :~) I guess what sucked me in that way was your writing about how open & friendly she was, because she is that way - amazing for a celebrity of her status. After I had my '98 photo op with her, I asked her to dance and I could have sworn she actually considered it for a nanosecond. What was so awesome about her reply was that she didn't even say "no", but "maybe later"...whoo hoo! I was jumping around like Rudolph the Reindeer..."she thinks I'm cute, she thinks I'm cute!" LOL Bob NP: Daniel Lanois, "Indian Red" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 08:27:25 -0500 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Re-Sweet Sucker Dance, comming to the list. In a message dated 2/26/2003 12:45:56 AM Eastern Standard Time, MINGSDANCE writes: > I still have a reason to be here on this planet and > I thank all of you for that. David, such a moving story...thanks a lot for sharing it. I've enjoyed reading your posts, please keep it up! And thanks too to Jimmy - indeed a rare shimmering jewel in a community full of them. All of us that have met him are blessed as a result. A bit more about Sweet Sucker Dance...like I said, I spun Mingus again this morning, paying particular attention to SSD. Even if you find the jazz melody inaccessible, the quality of Joni's vocal instrument is almost beyond belief. Pure singing. What further amazed me is that she gets virtually no instrumental "clues" from the band to play off of - she has to make those jazz intervals vocally on her own. It's not just walking without a net, it's like walking without a f*cking wire! And the result remains hands down for me Joni's finest hour vocally. Thanks Anne for raising this question - and for Ron for the assignment! OK, teacher, what's our next homework assignment? :~) Bob NP: Daniel Lanois, "For The Beauty of Wynona" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 05:29:06 -0800 From: "Lori Fye" Subject: Re: Norah Jones & Joni Andrea wrote: > I may have mentioned this before, but perhaps I wrote it offline to > someone. Or maybe it isn't relevant. I bought the Norah jones cd > because Joni said she liked her in the December W magazine article. > This seems germane to me as I figure there has to be something > there. Did anyone else read the article or remember this? It's in > the JMDL library. at this URL: http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=1025 Just a couple of days before the Grammy Awards, and due entirely to Norah's 8 nominiations (as we've heard only a snippet of one song), Mary and I purchased advance sale tickets to Norah's show this summer at Wolf Trap -- and the seats should be in the orchestra pit!! : ) The Wolf Trap show doesn't appear on Norah's schedule (which is normal for that venue when they're selling advance tickets to members), but (most of?) the rest of her tour schedule is here: http://www.norahjones.com/shows/default.htm Lori ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 09:00:16 -0500 From: "Blair Fraipont" Subject: Walk on the Moon/Liev Schrieber/ RE: Cactus Tree LIev Schrieber is in that movie, "A Walk on the Moon" and I just think he is one sexy beast! He was also in "The Day Trippers", "Party Girl", "Walking and Talking"--one film I do suggest anyone to rent, and many others. I was thrilled when I was working at Juilliard last year that my boss worked with him in college. Unfortunately, she said he is a bit full of himself and doesnot swing the other way! Too bad for me! :) I found that soundtrack by accident in a bargain bin. It is pretty good, containing alot of the psychedelic and pop songs of the mid to late sixties. There are also a few covers of older classics and one of them, Crimson and CLover, sung by Cher and her son, Elijah Blue is the only awkward clunker on the album. Blair NP: "THe Ghetto Walk" Miles Davis >From: Rusty10113@aol.com >Reply-To: Rusty10113@aol.com >To: FMYFL@aol.com, MINGSDANCE@aol.com, joni@smoe.org >Subject: Cactus Tree >Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 16:52:00 EST > >Hi--wow, what a coincidence...Joni's everywhere! ...was casually reading >the >Joni list, and enjoying someone's post of falling on love all over again >with >Blue, when the oening strains of Cactus Tree begin, grabbing my attention >immediately..turns out it's the background to a scene in A Walk on the >Moon, >with Diane Lane (love her!)... it's playing throughout a scene where she >and >the hunk from LOTR are swimming in a fabulous canyon, getting it on the >whole >time! "..and she's so busy being free..." > >this kind of stuff always makes my day... call me crazy! > >best to all from freezing NYC... > >Mitch _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 09:05:30 -0500 (EST) From: "walterphil" Subject: songwriters vs singers... yes your point is well taken no one loves dusty or sarah more than i (i can safely say i have everything they have ever recorded) but i doubt if this list would exist if joni was just the performer and not the writer of all of these masterpieces. and one last thing don't sell aretha short she is a goddess and a genius because she DID write "think"-one of THE best "daydreaming" ditto "dr. feelgood"-a classic "since you've been gone"-probably my fave aretha song "spirit in the dark"-great God almighty! "rock steady"-yessssssssssss "don't let me lose this dream"-sheer glorious melody "all the king's horses" "first snow in kokomo" "pullin"-one has to hear it too believe it and at least a dozen more she deserves a discussion list too. xxx walt The most personalized portal on the Web! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 09:06:47 -0500 From: "Blair Fraipont" Subject: Swimming Pool Joni I love that picture of her in the swimming pool!!!! It makes me crave the summertime more than ever. I can't wait to go swimming while listening to Hissing of Summer Lawns. It has been a silly little tradition of mine since 1997. It is funny how people took that picture and made her out to be this narcissist who had fallen from grace to fully embrace the glutteny of 'stardom' or something like that. I loved her quote about the photographer, Norman Seef, something to the lines of, "Norman was always trying to get me wet!" Love you Joni! Blair NP: "Early Minor" Miles Davis > >When did she look the "fittest"? Inner sleeve of Hissing... > >Sorry, did I say that out loud? > >Azeem in London >NP: Christine Collister - Quiet (*sigh*) _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 14:16:58 +0000 From: "vincenzo mancini" Subject: "All I want" cover/DVDs I read a review about a concert Uri Caine (a pianist) held in Prato (near Florence, Italy) some months ago; he is performing "All I want" (maybe after Jarrett?) A search on the net, crossing Caine with AIW, provided some apparently non-relevant results and the Joni undercover section on the jmdl site does not give any trace of it... accordingly, it would seem that no official release of the cover has already been done. Maybe some jmdler could tape some Caine gig and... let our Bob M (Hi Bob) have it? Does anybody know whether "Refuge of the roads", "Come in from the cold" and any other JM appearance are available in DVD? Or are SL and PWWAM the only ones heretofore available? Vincenzo NP: Susanne Abbuehl "April" - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 09:22:49 -0600 From: twoshoes@sasktel.net Subject: dreaming with joan > From: "bill johnson" > Subject: I hit on Joni.....and the result was.... > Any thoughts or analyses are welcome. Anybody else dream of Joni? Oh yeah. Of course, I also dreamed I met Mick Jagger, in whom I have little interest when I'm awake. My dreams usually tell me truths, so I know Mick is *really* just a sweet guy. Joan, I dream about fairly often lately. Sometimes a nice little friendship comes naturally. Other times, she is distant. Always, as in waking life, she is a standout. > From: "Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lama\)" > Subject: Joni CD-R Tree > It's funny you should mention a CD tree. The Joni Mitchell Internet > community's archivist, Simon, sent me 3 CDs a few weeks ago. I've been > meaning to see who is interested in them. Your post prompted me to action. Maybe it's time I made some effort to hear some of J's music that I've never heard. There are tapes and CDs of her stuff that is not on any of her albums? So after all these years, when I finally get my butt in gear and take action, I am going to be thrilled anew. > I'll dub it for anyone who follows these 3 basic rules: > * Agree not to ever profit in any way from spreading it around, > * Send 3 blank CD-R discs, and This is the hard part -- going to the store! I think I'll have to go to the city for these. Last night on Life and Times was a profile of a Russian who was instrumental in getting Perestroika, etc in; he was influenced by his 10-year "exile" in Canada. Then there was the Joni Mitchell Pt 1 and 2 "coming up" -- actually it's not often they do a two-part show, is it? So that's something to look forward to. Their approach is always respectful too. Anyway, my point: for the next week the CBC will probably run commercials relentlessly for it, and for a change they are commercials I will not curse at for being repeated back to back. I'm getting kindof excited about it. You're the lucky ones -- who are going to see Andrew's version without the damn commercials. Don't let the "top 40 baby food" comment I made put you off. Life and Times is a show well worth watching. Kate http://xoetc.antville.org ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 11:09:20 -0500 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: "All I want" cover/DVDs In a message dated 2/26/2003 9:16:58 AM Eastern Standard Time, vincenzomancini@hotmail.com writes: > accordingly, it would seem > that no official release of the cover has already been done. Maybe some > jmdler could tape some Caine gig and... let our Bob M (Hi Bob) have it? Thanks for the tip, Vincenzo! Some quick research on Mr. Caine reveals that he has issued one release (Sidewalks of New York) with no Joni covers. An interesting song selection though, with mostly/totally(?) American songs from the early part of the 20th century. If a nice quality live "All I Want" recording emerges, I would of course love to have it! > > Does anybody know whether "Refuge of the roads", "Come in from the cold" > and any other JM appearance are available in DVD? Or are SL > and PWWAM the > only ones heretofore available? Those are the two currently available. Of course, the technology exists to convert video to DVD...I've had Refuge of the Roads converted, it cost me $35 for the conversion. I tried to make DVD copies from THAT DVD, but there were some issues. But I still have my source video, and obviously an endless number of DVD copies could be made from it. I'd love to see us take the treed video bits and transfer them to DVD. Bob NP: Led Zeppelin, "You Shook Me" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 11:09:43 EST From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: ear worms SJC I hadn't heard of this expression before, but an ear worm is a song that sticks in your head, and you keep singing or humming it all day. The top two ear worms in the past couple of years have been: 1.) "Who Let the Dogs Out" 2.) NSYNC singing the TV commercial "I want my baby back, baby back, baby back ribs" I can relate to that unfortunately. As for Joni, my ear worm Joni song is "Night Ride Home". I play that song while showering in the morning, and it stays with me all day, fortunately. Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 10:08:55 -0600 From: twoshoes@sasktel.net Subject: speaking of dreams of joni my little vocal cords dream of singing harmony to joni's melody. yep, just me and the joan sitting around singing her songs. no audience. only people singing along. so when you are toddling along, all by yourself, imagining things joni, what do you dream of? kate http:/xoetc.antville.org ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 11:18:05 EST From: MINGSDANCE@aol.com Subject: Re: Re-Sweet Sucker Dance, comming to the list. Thank you for your kind words, My reason for writing this post was to try and show people that we are all important to each other in this very tender, expressive, and vocal, group we have here. This is just another hope that the list remain a part of that total Composition that is "Joni's Opus.' She has us talking about Jesus, and Hitler and maybe even Howard Hughes! Peace, Mingus ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 09:25:22 -0600 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: Re: I hit on Joni.....and the result was.... Catherine asked: Anybody else > > dream of Joni? So odd that you would post this today Catherine. I used to read the posts concerning dreams of Joni and would laugh to myself, snicker a bit, and think "people, get a life." This was long before DED and my recent change in feeling about Joni and other things. Last night I did have a dream about her but cannot remember what it was. It felt good, that I do remember. mack ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 11:23:33 EST From: MGVal@aol.com Subject: state of the list Scott's response to ??? about limiting posting: > Yes it is a harsh proposal...limiting individual bandwidth...but I feel > that *something* should be done. It's fine to call for everyone to be > civil and reasonable but I'd bet that shortly after this current "state of > the list" discussion ends, things will be right back to the "state" that > has prompted this thread > Maybe the "state" that prompted this thread is just something that always happens. I wonder if limiting invidual bandwidths will really be much more than a placebo for what ails the list. I can be biting and abrasive with 1 post or 100. Maybe nothing ails the list. Maybe the things that got riled up are what happens when a large community posts on passionate subjects. And everyone's passions are different. I know that the things that got me going and spurned to state my side are now limited to people who litter and those who mix gruyere cheese with Velveeta slices. Other than that, my personal path has moved my focus elsewhere. Other people are different. There is just too wide a variety of personalities, communication style and interpretation style. Within that, there are those with a buttload of free time or those who are extremely eloquent at the drop of a hat. I think that limiting the bandwidth just puts an unnecessary crimp here. A while ago, I read a wonderful suggestion for handling one's road rage and that was to drive as though the person ahead of you was your grandmother. Maybe she has stress incontinence and just had a big sneeze and is trying to get a more comfortable spot on her seat. Maybe she's just having a slow day. The point is to gently channel your "rage" to compassion, understanding and peace. As Scott pointed out, people just aren't always going to be civil but maybe we can practice the Grandmother technique. Instead of firing up with "jesushchristonapopsiclesitck-I'm gonna mow you down with rhetoric" we can think: "wow, that was some heck of a sneeze, I hope you get to change your Depends soon." And sometimes we won't be able to do that and it gets bad and then it gets better and so it goes. Life is for learning. MG ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 11:26:13 -0500 From: Subject: Re: Joni CD-R Tree The 3 CDs announced yesterday, including the remastered "Joni and James" recording from the BBC in 1970, are available to anyone on JMDL. In one day, I got 9 requests. Anyone else? Write to me, off-list at jlamadoo@fuse.net In a message dated 2/26/2003 3:01:17 AM Eastern Standard Time, jlamadoo@fuse.net writes: I'll dub it for anyone who follows these 3 basic rules: * Agree not to ever profit in any way from spreading it around, * Send 3 blank CD-R discs, and * Include return postage. >> Hi Jim, I would love to get copies of these 3 discs - Could I have your mailing address to send you the blanks? I do have many live tapes of Joni - from '6 to the BSN tour - but have not compiled a list. I have all of the shows from the BSN tour, except for 3 - Atlanta, NYC (I have the 5/22 show), and one other. Do you happen to have Atlanta or the other NY show? I will get a list together if you prefer to trade. Let me know. Thanks, Scott Merrell ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 11:29:30 EST From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: ear worms SJC Jimmy writes: << I hadn't heard of this expression before, but an ear worm is a song that sticks in your head, and you keep singing or humming it all day. >> My biggest Joni ear worm is "Down to You." For Ethel, it's "Small World." But overall, it's "Fooled Around and Fell in Love." Hell, I've got a head full of the little bastards. --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 11:46:48 EST From: MINGSDANCE@aol.com Subject: Re: Re-Sweet Sucker Dance, comming to the list. I certainly wish you would have been one the people reviewing/Promting the release>. I loved her dealing with this type of thing, ( Death and Birth) Immortality, pressure of being received by a large community Of followers of a living legend that Charlie was at the time of his death, and she did nail it! By the way what a great thing that you are doing, Jimmy sneaks me one of your Covers to listen to every now and then. I may even own one or two? Excellent work, no pay, Bless you! Peace, Mingus ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 10:49:35 -0600 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: Re: ear worms Ear worm? Interesting. My ear worm is -or at least one of them and the one that stays in my head a lot-Impossible Dreamer. 'dreamin like you do.' ah, joan. joni. honey. mmmm. mack ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 09:51:58 -0500 From: Doug Subject: Re: Joni CD-R Tree I'd be interested in copies of those discs, Jim. Send me your mail address. Before I joined this list last Nov. I had long since given up on finding anything new from Joni Mitchell that I would like. Thanks to Rick in BC and Bob in SC I now have many discs of live unreleased performances and have played them constantly for the last 3 months, along with Travelogue which I enjoy very much. However I agree with TraderJohn, the sound quality on most of them is the pits. My dream-come-true would be to have good copies of "Club 47 Cambridge", "Couriers Folk Club UK", "Gerdes Folk City","WMMR Interviews", and anything else from the 1967-68 era. I have "Second Fret Sets" which has very good sound and is a MUST-HAVE for everyone on this list. I'm actively looking for vinyl bootlegs to make CDs from. I've had a couple of possible leads but it's very difficult when the intermediaries are not Joni fans. Speaking of the Second Fret Sets, has anyone noticed in that early (first?) performance of Cactus Tree Joni sings: "As she fears no one will ask her for eternity" The final version on STAS is: "For she fears that one will ask her for eternity" The meaning was changed to the opposite. Just a curiosity. It's been a long and cold winter here (Ontario), -25 last night. "The trees are shivering in a naked row" Doug ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 12:08:14 -0700 From: Dan Olson Subject: Re: ear worms - Impossible Dreamer The lyrics of this song always remind me of John Lennon (who of course wrote "you may say I'm a dreamer" and "give peace a chance")? Anyone else think of him when listening to this? ~Dan At 10:49 AM 2/26/2003 -0600, you wrote: >Ear worm? Interesting. My ear worm is -or at least one of them and the one >that stays in my head a lot-Impossible Dreamer. 'dreamin like you do.' >ah, joan. joni. honey. mmmm. > >mack ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 11:20:57 -0800 (PST) From: Little Bird Subject: Re: ear worms SJC Unfortunately, Joni's songs rarely form ear worms with me. If they do it's usually the music, oddly enough - the other night I kept playing the orchestration on "Sometimes I'm Happy" in my head and I've had the drum beats of "Jungle Line" in my head many, many times, usually while I'm out walking somewhere in a hurry! For me, ear worms manifest themselves rather parasitically: Celine Dion is my current affliction. "I know that I'm alave!" (As in the scene from Aliens: "Please... kill me!") - -Afflicted Andrew Murphycopy@aol.com wrote:Jimmy writes: << I hadn't heard of this expression before, but an ear worm is a song that sticks in your head, and you keep singing or humming it all day. >> My biggest Joni ear worm is "Down to You." For Ethel, it's "Small World." But overall, it's "Fooled Around and Fell in Love." Hell, I've got a head full of the little bastards. - --Bob Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, and more ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 14:38:39 -0500 From: Gerald Notaro Subject: Re: sucker, grammies and best and worst.... I think the Grammies were great this year. And I also think a lot of that had to do with them being in NYC. It put a certain edge on it all that kept it from getting stale. Jerry np: Megan Mullally - She Came In Through the Bathroom Window ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 11:48:45 -0800 (PST) From: Little Bird Subject: Annie Lennox tour (-No Joan) Annie Lennox will be touring her new solo album, Bare, this spring, inlcuding four stops in the U.S. and one stop in Canada. For a list of tour dates see this site: www.annielennox.de Cheers, Andrew Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, and more ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 14:54:52 -0500 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni CD-R Tree In a message dated 2/26/2003 9:51:58 AM Eastern Standard Time, dmeek@falls.igs.net writes: > I'm actively looking for vinyl bootlegs to make CDs from. I've had a > couple of possible leads > but it's very difficult when the intermediaries are not > Joni fans. Hey Doug, I've got some Joni bootleg vinyl I'm looking to dump, so maybe we can work something out. What I have: "Spring Songs" This is a 2-LP set of her show in Durham, NC, March 24, 1974. I've already transferred it directly to CD from vinyl. The quality of the recording is very shitty, so don't be thinking you're getting a pristine concert. "BBC 1972" This may be from one of her May '72 England appearances, there's no way to really be sure I suppose. No references in the dialogues on the record that would indicate that. It's one LP, and in this case the recording is pretty good. I've already transferred it to CD. Bob NP: Zep, "Black Dog" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 13:32:48 -0800 (PST) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: Re: Swimming Pool Joni That photo is as beautiful as much as it's scary. Often gets me thinking of her later lyric "the rapist in the pool" from Sex Kills. love ya all, nuriel - --- "Blair Fraipont" wrote: > I love that picture of her in the swimming pool!!!! It makes me >crave the summertime more than ever. I can't wait to go swimming while >listening to Hissing of Summer Lawns. It has been a silly little tradition >of mine since 1997. It is funny how people took that picture and made her >out to be this narcissist who had fallen from grace to fully embrace the >glutteny of 'stardom' or something like that. I loved her quote about the >photographer, Norman Seef, something to the lines of, "Norman was always >trying to get me wet!" Love you Joni! > > Blair > >NP: "Early Minor" Miles Davis > > > >> >>When did she look the "fittest"? Inner sleeve of Hissing... >> >>Sorry, did I say that out loud? >> >>Azeem in London >>NP: Christine Collister - Quiet (*sigh*) > > >_________________________________________________________________ >MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus _____________________________________________________________ Free email, web pages, news, entertainment, weather and MORE! Check out -------------------------------> http://wowmail.com _____________________________________________________________ Select your own custom email address for FREE! Get you@yourchoice.com w/No Ads, 6MB, POP & more! http://www.everyone.net/selectmail?campaign=tag ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 15:16:49 -0700 From: Les Irvin Subject: re: State of the List Thanks to everyone who responded to my state of the list post - much appreciated. I'm going to take a few days to digest everything then I'll probably write more. Thanks again, Les ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 18:10:16 -0500 From: "michael o'malley" Subject: Re: Dreaming of Joni and gushing Re: I hit on Joni dream Thanks Bill, for sharing that charming little story. As a matter of fact, I did have a Joni dream a couple of weeks ago. I dreamt she came over to my house with her entourage one afternoon. They came in up the back fire escape, after checking out the garden. I was somewhat embarassed because my toilet wasn't working! What if they started drinking and smoking, I worried? I laughed at that one the next day! Oh, the twisted workings of the human mind... On another subject, reading the 2000 London Times interview, I was struck by this narrative: Joni: "Someone coming up to me on the street and saying that they love what I do? That kind of reaction is not coming out of a sense of appropriateness. That is coming out of kindredness. Which is wonderful, if embarrassing for both parties. We're strangers, after all, and a lot of times those people are so earnest and overwhelmed that they look as if they're going to implode. The only possible response is to give them a good hug, which I do. And that makes for a very real and sweet encounter. Those people whom I've hugged on the street - they're the honours and the good reviews." This really surprised me, that Joni would be responsive to demonstrations of ``gushing` like that, on the street. People I talked to about this at last year's Jonifest all said they were very uncomfortable with the role of `gushing fan..`` Which begs the question, did anyone on this list ever gush, and if so, what was Joni's response to that? Would you , if you had the chance? It kills me to admit it, but I know I probably would if I had the chance. I probably couldn't hold back. I actually did gush once in the presence of a lovely American opera diva, who received my attentions warmly. However, I was considerably younger then. I think youth adds some charm to the gush. A middle-aged person gushing is quite another story, isn't it? PS. I saw Nora Jones in concert the other night on Muchmusic TV or whatever. I must say, that woman has no stage presence whatsoever. She looked bored and annoyed with the audience. Last summer she appeared at teh Montreal Jazz festival when she was already suffering from overexposure and burn-out. Michael in Quebec ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 18:57:44 EST From: AzeemAK@aol.com Subject: Modest Proposal - not really jc but about list content/tagging of posts The recent debate about the state of the list and people switching to the joni-only list has got me wondering about why people are on the JO list; is it because they really only want to read about Joni-related stuff, or is it as a way of avoiding having to wade through all the stuff about sex, politics and religion, genital piercing, what I had for breakfast, why "swinging both ways" means something different in cricket to what it means elsewhere, and so on? Or, is it somewhere in between those two positions, ie that posts about Joni, Joni related artists and music in general would be welcome, as long as all the other stuff were filtered out? I don't suppose there would be consensus, but I'm sure at least some of the people on the JO list would fall into that position. What I was turning over in my head was, would it be worth considering a tag of NMC (no music content) to replace NJC? Azeem in London ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 19:42:21 -0800 From: Gary Zack Subject: TEST TEST ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 19:40:51 -0500 From: "patrick leader" Subject: RE: Re-Woodstock i chickened out, a little freaked out by projected unruly festival-style crowds, and the experience was so good for so many friends, i've kicked myself a bit. i was sent a tape a couple of days later, and less than a week after the concert i went into tomkins square park with headphones on a sunny summer sunday am. listening to that version of 'summertime', the fourth song i think. my jaw dropped. i remember sitting in that park just stunned with joy. in addition to 'top five songs' 'top five albums' 'top five covers' i keep an interior and rotating list of top five experiences of hearing a joni performance for the first time, and her 'summertime' in that concert is on my list. patrick np - mary black >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]On Behalf Of Deb >Messling >Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 6:52 AM >To: FMYFL@aol.com >Cc: joni@smoe.org >Subject: Re: Re-Woodstock > > >I was one of several JMDLers who attended. I think the consensus of the >group was that the Woodstock performance was one of the best in Joni's >recent history. Her voice was in great shape that day. > > >At 02:35 PM 2/25/03 -0500, you wrote: >>Great post Ming! I'm curious....I had only been a jmdler for >about 6 months >>when Joni performed at "A Day in the Garden" on 8-15-98. Did any other >>jmdlers attend, and if so what did they think of Joni's performance? > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Deb Messling -^..^- >messling@enter.net >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >--- >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.445 / Virus Database: 250 - Release Date: 1/21/03 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 20:12:34 -0800 From: Gary Zack Subject: The State of the List Please forgive me if you have received numerous copies of this post!! I've tried posting it twice and it didn't go through to my knowledge - maybe that means I should remain a lurker and that this shouldn't be read at all!!!! Bear with me - it normally takes me ten times to get something right!!!! Hi all, I love Joni - I love this list. I joined in June of 2000, and when I posted for the second time and forgot the NJC tag, I was immediately slammed by a listmember offlist who is not a member of the list anymore. I was so humbled and humiliated; that I unsubscribed immediately; and then I thought - why should one person stop me from joining a list about the favorite singer/songwriter/painter/poet, etc., in my life? I immediately resubscribed and cannot tell you all how grateful I am for the wonderful people I've met, interacted with off list via e-mail, and for those who have supported me through my somewhat off-kilter life. Many of you have been life-savers/sanity-savers for me. I hope you know that. I love the banter, the insights into peoples' lives; and of course, all of the Joni information from those of you much more knowledgeable and intelligent than I. Where else could I hear from people throughout the U.S., England, Canada, Ireland, Argentina, and all of those far away places, from people who love Joni as much as I do? How much about Joni and her life and works I never knew! I still hesitate to post often - "maybe it's paranoia, maybe it's sensitivity..." this list is full of intelligent people, and I do fear being "slammed" as I was in the early days of my list membership. I'm working on that...... I agree wholeheartedly with Ashara regarding getting "stuck on one topic." I love nothing better than to wake up on a Saturday morning, grab a fresh cup of coffee (with a cat or two on my lap) and read about whatever someone on this list has to say. The volume of political posts make me weary....and sad sometimes. I guess I must admit I come here to escape some of the sad realities of war and life that I am bombarded with constantly - but I don't mind political posts or actually anything in moderation; but as I think Colin pointed out, when the bulk of the posts are political, I feel like I'm on some sort of political mailing list, and if I wanted that I would have joined one specifically. I am certainly not without my obsessions too....I could talk about Laura Nyro endlessly, and especially Joni's early and unreleased recordings; but I think people would tire pretty quickly if I posted about Laura Nyro six times a day!!! I love the diversity of the list - and was once on the joni-only - I missed out on a great deal of wonderful stories and discussions! But of course, that is a person's choice. I am still somewhat stunned when I get 130 e-mails downloading into my mailbox at a time!! So again, I've stuck my neck out and posted - I hope I can finally feel more free to do that without admonishment. To those of you who responded to my December post, know I hold you especially dear - write and send me your address again. My computer crashed in December and I lost many e-mails from people whom I wanted to stay connected personally with. For those of you whom I've never met or written to, know that I read your posts and feel that I know you, if only from a distance. Bob Murphy and Catherine in Toronto never fail to make me smile; Bob Muller knows his music like no one I've ever met; Mags is never without a kind word; and there are so many more of you who are so knowlegeable and intelligent; and many of you whom I won't mention as to not embarrass have been most kind and caring to me and simply caring in general. What better internet family could I ask for? If this seems shallow, or too "caring" to some, sorry, but it's the truth for me. Let's stay kind, caring and sensitive to others' feelings. People are so precious. We could be "Here Today and Gone Tomorrow." With Best wishes and peace to all! Gary Zack ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 20:16:50 -0500 From: "chuty001" Subject: Re: TEST Did we pass? - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Zack" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 10:42 PM Subject: TEST > TEST ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 23:59:11 EST From: BRYAN8847@aol.com Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2003 #145 - Serious and satirical civility and the lack thereof In a message dated 2/25/2003 7:14:39 AM Pacific Standard Time, les@jmdl.com writes: > That is the stupidest, most idiotic thing I have ever read in my life. > The only taste you have is in your mouth. How fucking full of shit can > one person's uninformed opinion be? I'd call your opinion utter > foolishness but that would be an insult to fools everywhere. > > Ahhemmmm...I'm not sure who wrote the above comment, but I have to say -- > for > Pete's sake dude, chill out. Can we participate in this forum with some > degree of civility, even when (or especially when) we disagree? Such venom > > and only over who shudda won the best whatever award. Grow up already. > > Bryan Well, I've been informed by several of you that the post I was replying to was just a joke....I guess I wasted my serious pills and energy that day on nothing. Anyway... sorry if I offended the prankster. Bryan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 02:03:32 -0500 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today in History: February 27 1974: The album "Court And Spark" was certified gold by the RIAA. 1992: Liz Taylor held a gala party at Disneyland for her 60th birthday and Joni was one of many guests. More info: http://www.jonimitchell.com/LizBirthday92.html 1996: Gibson Guitar awarded Joni with their BEST ACOUSTIC GUITAR award. - ---- For a comprehensive reference to Joni's appearances, consult Joni Mitchell ~ A Chronology of Appearances: http://www.jonimitchell.com/appearances.html ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2003 #70 ******************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)