From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2003 #54 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Monday, February 17 2003 Volume 2003 : Number 054 Sign up now for JoniFest 2003! http://www.jonifest.com ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Chart success ["Paul Headon" ] Re: NY Times Review of BSN [Bobsart48@aol.com] lyric question 100% JC!! (This Flight Tonight) [MGVal@aol.com] Re: Joni songs on piano [Howard ] Re: Joni's guitars [Bobsart48@aol.com] this flight tonight and taylor ham ["Nikki Johnson" ] taylor ham/flight tonight ["Wally Kairuz" ] lyric question 100% JC!! (This Flight Tonight), short ["Jim L'Hommedieu \] re: joni's piano music [Howard ] Re: Joni's guitars ["Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lama\)" ] Re: Joni's guitars/Now with 29 Skaters on Wolman Rink [KJHSF@aol.com] PBS special- April 02, 2003: an update! ["Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lama\)" ] Re: Joni's guitars/Now with 29 Skaters on Wolman Rink [Dan Olson Subject: Chart success Hi Joni Big Yellow Taxi enters the UK singles chart at No. 16 . You can't keep a good song down it seems :-) Best wishes, Paul Headon Wales - --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.455 / Virus Database: 255 - Release Date: 13/02/2003 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 09:45:29 EST From: Bobsart48@aol.com Subject: Re: NY Times Review of BSN Michael O'Malley reminded us: > Admittedly, I am a great fan of BSN and I don't necessarily share all his > views, especially about ACOY, but it was great fun getting his take on this > somewhat controversial album. > > See it again here at http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=454 > > Yes, this review (by Stephen Holden) is what a review from the NY Times ought to read like. (This in stark contrast to the hideous embarrasment submitted by one John (?) Rockwell on Travelogue and actually published by the Times - instead of trashed, as it should have been. I have not forgotten.) Bob S. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 10:33:19 -0500 From: MGVal@aol.com Subject: lyric question 100% JC!! (This Flight Tonight) Ohmigosh, I have a JC post IN FULL! What are the odds? This lyric came up" > Look out the left", the captain said, > "The lights down there that's where we'll land." > I saw a falling > star burn up > above the Las Vegas > sands. > It wasn't the one that you gave to me... etc Lama wrote: > I never "got" that she saw a falling star . I can imagine> that the air above the desert, like the air ......... Now MG: For a long time, I always view that line as semi-literal and took "falling star" to mean a once famous persona and "Las Vegas Sands" to mean quite literally the Sands Resort in LV. Thus, "I saw a falling star burn up above the LV Sands" hit my head as "above" being the marguee where the headliners are the lead neon names and then there's smaller and smaller print until you see: "And playing in our Taylor's Ham Lounge: Tony Orlando and Dawn." Then again, this is the gal who thought that Brooks Robinson and Frank Robinson of MLB fame were twin brothers......... MG ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 14:22:01 +0000 From: Howard Subject: Re: Joni songs on piano This reply is about 2 weeks late (I've just moved house, still catching up!). Apologies if this one has already been answered. "Sarah Cartwright" writes: >Totally agree on your praise for Howard's 'For Free' . I would recommend >his rendition of 'Blue' aswell - that is really beautiful and is a real >pleasure to play. Fred wrote: >Who is Howard? Where can I hear his renditions? Just to make it clear, I think Sarah was talking about the transcriptions of these Joni piano songs that I have done and which are available at the guitar tabs area at www.jmdl.com/guitar (go to the search function and look for "type: piano music") I haven't made any recordings of these songs myself. When I'm able to play them well enough, and without too many mistakes, I might think about that too! regards, Howard ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 13:13:21 EST From: Bobsart48@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni's guitars Paul (@anglesnet.com) wrote > Joni recently purchased new guitars from Fred and asked him to sell a number > of her older ones that she used to record Hejira and to tour. So, to help > him help her out, I'm putting them on eBay. > > You can find her Ibanez George Benson, complete with tablature, at: > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2508437444. > I have never bought anything on e-bay, and am not a collector. But this guitar has to be pretty much way up there on a JM fan/collector's wish list. Is it one of the guitars that was used in the S&L video ? The initial bid price seems almost like a joke. Can anyone out there give me some idea of how this "usually" works on e-bay (i.e., when do the serious bids typically come in ?) and if there are any collectors out there, what kind of order of magnitude (i.e., multiple of market price for a random guitar of the same make) might be expected at the end of the day ? Bobsart ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 14:28:50 -0500 From: "Nikki Johnson" Subject: this flight tonight and taylor ham Well I just wanted to say that I also took this semi-literal...one of Joni's talents is to mix metaphors and create these kind of double meanings where you can take what she says literally and it makes sense or you peel back the shades of meaning and find many more. I think this line from This Flight Tonight is an example of that. And I wanted to commend MG for successfully working Taylor Ham into at least two posts this week ;-) I don't think anyone else would have that talent. Love Nikki np: Patty Griffin - Tomorrow Night Now MG: For a long time, I always view that line as semi-literal and took "falling star" to mean a once famous persona and "Las Vegas Sands" to mean quite literally the Sands Resort in LV. Thus, "I saw a falling star burn up above the LV Sands" hit my head as "above" being the marguee where the headliners are the lead neon names and then there's smaller and smaller print until you see: "And playing in our Taylor's Ham Lounge: Tony Orlando and Dawn." Then again, this is the gal who thought that Brooks Robinson and Frank Robinson of MLB fame were twin brothers......... MG ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 16:16:55 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lama\)" Subject: Re: The vinyl verdict Andrew, I'm am shocked. I am deeply disappointed in your decision to reject vinyl in favor of that upstart CD format. heh heh NOT! I agree with you about the LP cover art though and suggest that you can often pick up a lot of 5 Joni LPs at a time on ebay, for next to nothing- just for the cover art! The current CD players have come a long way. They can now convey the complexity without portraying it as "grit" or white noise. CDs themselves have also come a long way. At least in the USA, all of Joni titles (except for "Both Sides Now" and "Travelogue" I think) are HDCD remasters. "Travelogue" has no trouble at all at recreating a very big and detailed sound within that little 44/16 red book CD specification, probably because the whole chain is using modern digital equipment instead of the early dreck. (At one time I had a CD copy of "Trio" that made Dolly and Emmylou both sound like white noise. The soprano vibrato was just gritty static. The vinyl is better but still not perfect.) I know what you mean about the big sound of "The Hissing Of Summer Lawns". On the big stereo, "Harry's House/Centerpiece", really shines. Lama Andrew said, >>>Having said that, I love the big sound of the big speakers - it's a more dense, heavy sound. I also love the large cover, which is the colour it was intended to be.>>> ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 18:56:47 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: taylor ham/flight tonight LOL!!! i was thinking about how taylor ham seems to come up whenever MG is going back east!!! as to this flight tonight, i always thought that joni was referring to herself 'burning up' on that plane. she uses the image in lesson in survival too. wallyK, doing all kinds of bad things today, such as drinking coffee, smoking, typing without my contacts on and sitting in a draft. - -----Mensaje original----- De: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]En nombre de Nikki Johnson Enviado el: Domingo, 16 de Febrero de 2003 04:29 p.m. Para: joni@smoe.org; mgval@aol.com Asunto: this flight tonight and taylor ham And I wanted to commend MG for successfully working Taylor Ham into at least two posts this week ;-) I don't think anyone else would have that talent. Love Nikki ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 17:00:58 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lama\)" Subject: lyric question 100% JC!! (This Flight Tonight), short Ain't metaphor grand? Lama np: "Hungry Heart" from the live box set MG said, >>For a long time, I always view that line as semi-literal and took "falling star" to mean a once famous persona and "Las Vegas Sands" to mean quite literally the Sands Resort in LV. Thus, "I saw a falling star burn up above the LV Sands" hit my head as "above" being the marquee where the headliners are the lead neon names and then there's smaller and smaller print until you see: "And playing in our Taylor's Ham Lounge: Tony Orlando and Dawn." ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 17:54:51 +0000 From: Howard Subject: re: joni's piano music bernard giordano wrote: >Anybody know where to find sheet music (piano)for >these songs: Blue, Two Grey Rooms, Man From Mars, >Rainy Night House,Ethiopia? Songbooks seem to be >unavailable or out-of-print. Any leads will be >appreciated: benwhitley2001@yahoo.com The piano part for Blue is available from www.jmdl.com/guitar search for the song by name, or search for type "piano music". Howard ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 19:05:28 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lama\)" Subject: Re: Joni's guitars Huh. I thought these sales were handled by discreet phone calls. I don't know about collectible guitars but I can tell you that, among camera collectors, the experienced people usually don't telegraph their interest, nor their top bid, until the final seconds. I suspect that ebay isn't the right forum for collectors of this uh... social strata. Therefore, I predict that the reserve price (hidden until the end of the auction) will not be met. Unless it is. :) It could be that Rebecca Romaine-Stamos is having a boring week in the Philippines, waiting out a monsoon in a hotel room, and is cruising ebay from a laptop. If someone like that bids $15,000 for it, that might do it. I'll bet $20,000 would do it. I'd make damn sure that no one ever takes the luggage tags or the tablature off it! The neck may be warped from her Martian tunings but then, expecting it to hold a tune is a bit like asking the Queen to hike up her dress to show a bit of leg, isn't it? It just now occurred to me that this is one more scary move from Norma. The writing stops. She agrees to a hits package. The first-ever sequel. She says "yes" to a documentary. She sells some guitars. Did you see in the ad that "she's asked Fred to sell this guitar ***AND SEVERAL OTHERS*** for her." This is not... good. Not good at all. Lama Paul (@anglesnet.com) wrote > You can find her Ibanez George Benson, complete with tablature, at: > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2508437444. > Bob S. said I have never bought anything on e-bay, and am not a collector. But this guitar has to be pretty much way up there on a JM fan/collector's wish list. Can anyone out there give me some idea of how this "usually" works on e-bay (i.e., when do the serious bids typically come in ?) and if there are any collectors out there, what kind of order of magnitude (i.e., multiple of market price for a random guitar of the same make) might be expected at the end of the day? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 19:34:35 EST From: KJHSF@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni's guitars/Now with 29 Skaters on Wolman Rink In a message dated 2/16/2003 7:07:19 PM Eastern Standard Time, jlamadoo@fuse.net writes: > Did you see in the ad that "she's asked Fred to sell this guitar ***AND > SEVERAL OTHERS*** for her." > This is not... good. Not good at all. > I thought that in the initial reporting of the sale of her guitars, it was said that she was getting rid of these old instruments and was purchasing new guitars. Did I imagine this? Have I been erroneously imagining that Joni was returning to the acoustic guitar for another round? Also, there was a segment about Wolman Rink on the Discovery Channel Today. Apparently, it was closed in 1980 for a 12 million dollar renovation. Six years later, with the money spent, the city of New York had not completed the project, and the work that had been done was a shoddy mess. Donald Trump stepped in and brokered a deal to complete the project for 3 million. The planned 4 month renovation was completed in 3 months and under budget at 2.25 million! He owns the rink concession rights, but donates those profits to charity. He said he took on the project so that his children would be able to enjoy the fun of ice skating before they got too old. Wonder if Joni ever skates there when she's in NYC. Ken np:that real, real quiet it gets when you've been blessed with 10 inches of newly fallen snow whoo-hoo ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 01:06:53 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lama\)" Subject: PBS special- April 02, 2003: an update! As I recall, we were all operating under the understanding that Joni was interviewed for Alison Anders' documentary on the making of "Travelogue" but she declined to be interviewed for the PBS "Masters Series" special. Ain't necessarily so. It seems that PBS was in Bel Air last summer. Simon's list of "Appearances" at www.jonimitchell.com/appearances.html#2000 shows that PBS shot video on June 26 and took audio on July 01, last year. Hmmm. The PBS website http://www.pbs.org/wnet/americanmasters/database/mitchell_j_homepage.html still says it's gonna be aired on April 02, 2003. "Steady as she goes, Mister Sulu. Kirk out." Lama np: the first few hours of listening to room-canceling fiberglass enhancements which are yielding..... uh.... disappointingly subtle improvements. "Telling Me Lies" with Linda singing lead, backed up by Emmylou and Dolly. Gees, these girls are among the finest female singers I could name. Not bad- for girls. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 08:30:13 +0200 From: "ron" Subject: taylor ham/flight tonight hi wally k wrote >>> Subject: Re: Joni's guitars/Now with 29 Skaters on Wolman Rink I saw her in Minneapolis on the S&L tour, and as I recall, she had 3? identical blond colored fat hollow-body guitars that were very similar (if not identical) to the one(s) I'd seen Pat Metheny play numerous times (including this concert). The guitar on ebay is sunburst (but otherwise similar). Okay, I located my incredibly bad dub of this video, and sure enough, she is playing 2? different blond guitars (at least one is an Ibanez, which is what the one on ebay is). Got that? So she had, by my reckoning, at least four similar guitars, maybe many more. Did she have one for every one of her distinct tunings? Did she choose to only play blond ones while touring with Metheny, so that all the guitars on stage (not including Pastorius' bass) would match? (Incidentally, Metheny's guitar was a Gibson, and simpler than Joni's electronically, a true "jazz guitar".) I encourage everyone to go to this site and look at the amazing pictures http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2508437444; I, for one, will keenly watch the bidding over the next week or so. At 01:13 PM 2/16/2003 -0500, you wrote: >I have never bought anything on e-bay, and am not a collector. But this >guitar has to be pretty much way up there on a JM fan/collector's wish list. >Is it one of the guitars that was used in the S&L video ? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 02:03:07 -0500 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today in History: February 17 1966: Chuck and Joni Mitchell perform at the Chess Mate in Detroit. 1970: During a concert at London's Royal Albert Hall, Joni announced that she was quitting live performance, - ---- For a comprehensive reference to Joni's appearances, consult Joni Mitchell ~ A Chronology of Appearances: http://www.jonimitchell.com/appearances.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 02:03:07 -0500 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Library Links: February 17 On February 17 the following items were published: 1973: "Roses and Kisses" - Sounds (Biography, with photographs) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=346 1995: "From Blue to Indigo" - Goldmine (Biography, with photographs) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=115 1995: "From Blue to Indigo (Part 2)" - Goldmine (Biography, with photographs) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=943 ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2003 #54 ******************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? 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