From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2003 #35 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Thursday, January 30 2003 Volume 2003 : Number 035 Sign up now for JoniFest 2003! http://www.jonifest.com ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Today in History: January 28 [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Down To You [Ron Greer ] Re: Down To You [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] RE: Joni's gay fans???? ["J.David Sapp" ] Re: Good article on free will ["blonde in the bleachers" ] Re: Down To You [sl.m@shaw.ca] Re: Down To You [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Joni songs on piano [FredNow@aol.com] my 2 joni cents ["walterphil" ] RE: onlyJMDL Digest V2003 #33 ["Heather" ] Joni likes ... ["Lori Fye" ] Re: Joni likes ... [frasere@intergate.ca] Joni in a Volvo commercial? [Little Bird ] Re: Joni likes ... [Randy Remote ] Valentine Days Set List Joni Song ["Happy The Man" ] Re: Joni + Don ["kakki" ] Re: Joni + Don [Little Bird ] coyote ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: coyote [Little Bird ] Really Hot ["Suzanne MarcAurele" ] Today's Library Links: January 30 [ljirvin@jmdl.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 07:56:37 -0500 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Today in History: January 28 In a message dated 1/28/2003 10:51:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, magsnbrei@yahoo.com writes: > I love Court and Spark and cannot believe that it is thirty > years old! But it's not...1974 to 2003...it's 29, just like you, Sweet Pea! :~* Bob NP: Golden Smog, "Williamton Angel" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 17:41:21 +0200 From: Ron Greer Subject: Down To You hi >>>joan wrote >>>>>>You go down to the pick up station craving warmth and beauty. You settle for less than fascination, a few drinks later you're not so choosy. >>>>>>bob took 30 years to respond >>>>>>but the line above always bugs me a little. "Less than fascination" would signify that that the person is already going to compromise in regards to who they pick up, then the second half of the couplet pretty much says the same thing. I suppose it's saying that after a couple more drinks the standards have gotten even lower than they were to begin with, it just has always sounded a tad awkward to me. actually, i think the complete line(s?) is a stunner. life changingly powerful if one really, really takes it to heart. theres that craving for warmth & beauty there deep down inside of pretty much everyone. it drives people to many different things. some people go to church. some people go to nature. some people listen to joni, some sing themselves, some play music, and some try to fill the gap with casual sex!!! in the specific situation joni is pointing out how low the person has already sunk. trying to fill the craving for truth and beauty with a pick up, with less than fascination for the person being picked up. then after a couple of drinks even those standards have fallen away. instead of looking for someone with at least some vague form of attraction, anything will do. the entire song speaks incredibly strongly of isolation and loneliness, in both the lyrics, the singing, and the instrumentation. this particular line is just so unbelievably powerful in its depiction of how a chronically lonely person will settle for any kind of contact, no matter how superficial. it also depicts the fact that that lonely person is oh so often responsible for their own loneliness. they have fallen into the trap, unable to break out and fulfill that craving for warmth & beauty. lost the ability to try, lost the confidence required to break out, yet never lost that craving. just settled for trying to fill it with something else. think about it. meditate on it. start to feel it. the line is anything but clumsy. it is just sheer brilliance. and while it may not in particular apply to you (the general you - not bob specifically) getting a grasp on the depth of emotion behind the line will still be a life changing experience in understanding and empathising with people who are in that situation. so much of joni's music and lyrics depends on empathy. if you really want to get it, feel it. I am really very bad at understanding lyrics and what they mean. the emotion and feeling behind it is the critical issue. I m sitting here full of tears, totally fragile and emotional trying to convey the beauty that i see in those lines, but i just cant do it... damn, what an artist that joni is. there are lots of other fine writers but *no one* can pack as much depth and emotion into a few seemingly simple words. & then she still makes it sound so damned good on top of that... ron ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 11:05:47 -0500 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Down To You In a message dated 1/29/2003 10:41:21 AM Eastern Standard Time, greerr@rav.co.za writes: > the line is anything but > clumsy. it is just sheer brilliance. Thanks Ron & Lori for your insights...it does make much more sense when put in the context of the whole. Also Ron, your post brought out an interesting point...in "Down To You" the protagonist is craving WARMTH & beauty, not TRUTH & beauty, as Joni is to define a couple records later in "Black Crow"(Of course she originally wrote 'love & music' but has always to my recall substituted 'Truth & Beauty' in its stead. So in the first case, there is no truth, only the despair & loneliness which seeks only warmth. But there certainly are similarities in the 2 songs. Both people are swooping down looking for something shiny... And I totally agree about the overall brilliance of "Down To You"...like P.M. Dawn sings..."now come the images, so many images...". Bumping against a stranger and you both apologize, compared to the lovers that look so high. And that great observation "Everything comes & goes, Pleasure moves on too early and trouble leaves too slow". It's a very moving song, certainly not casual listening. As would be expected from a song of such personal intensity, it hasn't been covered much. Lydia van Dam Group turns in an outstanding version on their outstanding Joni trib CD, and in one of the more bizarre recordings Colloseum II does a prog-rock version that loses most of the lyrical poignance but is very interesting & unique musically. Bob NP: The Goo Goo Dolls, "So Long" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 11:04:49 -0600 From: "J.David Sapp" Subject: RE: Joni's gay fans???? I am a gay man but I would not presume to speak for all of us - but I believe the following lyric endeared us to Joan: "Hanging on your boom-boom-pachyderm" - isn't that the essence of gay male sexuality? :~) peace, david ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 11:44:42 -0500 From: "Christopher Treacy" Subject: Re: Joni's gay fans???? Why, YES, David - that lyric has always held a special place in my pachyderm...I mean my heart (lol...whoops). - -Chris, starting his day several hours too late. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "J.David Sapp" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 12:04 PM Subject: RE: Joni's gay fans???? > I am a gay man but I would not presume to speak for all of us - but I > believe the following lyric endeared us to Joan: > > "Hanging on your boom-boom-pachyderm" - isn't that the essence of gay male > sexuality? :~) > > peace, david ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 14:09:08 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: Joni's gay fans???? baby, for quite a few of us would be you the key won't fit the door. wallyK, ouch! - -----Mensaje original----- De: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]En nombre de J.David Sapp Enviado el: Miircoles, 29 de Enero de 2003 02:05 p.m. Para: joni@smoe.org Asunto: RE: Joni's gay fans???? I am a gay man but I would not presume to speak for all of us - but I believe the following lyric endeared us to Joan: "Hanging on your boom-boom-pachyderm" - isn't that the essence of gay male sexuality? :~) peace, david ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 12:35:18 -0500 From: Subject: Re: RE: the GAY card Dear HEATHER: Viva la evolution! xxx MICHAEL > Finally! A good, logical assessment. > > Heather - an evolved lover of Joni's music ;-) > ________________ > P.S. I have to agree with Andrew: most gay people I know > are either indifferent to Joni or openly contemptuous -- just > like most straight people I know. (sigh) As always, I'm convinced > that those of us who love her so much (male of female, > gay or straight, white or black or any other colour) are simply more > highly evolved. > > ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 12:39:15 -0500 From: "blonde in the bleachers" Subject: Re: Good article on free will PLEASE LABEL NJC!! SERIOUSLY IT IS GETTING RIDICULOUS! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 13:28:43 -0500 From: "blonde in the bleachers" Subject: Re: Joni's gay fans and other things that have to do with the JMDL Andrew you have no idea what being a bitch is, and you are lucky you can't see the finger getting exercise at this moment. First off, this whole discussion about Joni's gay fans is self-serving and quite boring, great she has homosexual fans, lets move on to another topic. Laurent said something to the effect that "gay people are more educated about the arts" which I find to be a bunch of bullshit. God forbid if someone came on this list and said something derogatory about gay people, like "heteros are way more educated about sports than all those gay people drinking herbal tea and listening to their Cher albums." The whole NJC was never really that big of an issue until a bunch of people decided that they could post crap like transexual blahbity blah and shit about Bush, Israel, The Arab World etc...I have no problem with people who want to express their views about politics just don't do it on this list, go to a list more specific to your need to spout your rhetoric. I am sure as hell not going to post everysingle item I write as "JC" when this is the "JMDL". "ooooh it is easy to delete it" It is just as easy to put NJC in the subject line. >From: Little Bird >Reply-To: Little Bird >To: vince , joni@smoe.org >Subject: Re: Joni's gay fans???? >Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 19:31:05 -0800 (PST) > > > Not to say that the discussion wasn't interesting >but all anyone offer as to the truth of the >proposition is how it seems to them by encountering >people in here, and that does not make a valid >foundation for conjecture.> > >...Which is precisely what the conversation was about. >No one was saying they knew the truth or had all the >answers. In fact, I made it clear that it was just for >the sake of discussion, and it was a fun discussion at >that. > >And all this talk about JC and NJC...I really don't >understand what all the fuss is about, frankly, and >I'm an NJC subscriber. I delete about 30% of the posts >that ARE about Joni because I don't enjoy the >particular subject. Are we going to segregate >ourselves into little sealed off corners of the list >and filter out ideas we don't want to hear about, >endlessly labelling and categorizing? "Oh, sorry I >belong to the Court & Spark Only list" -"Well I belong >to the 'Hejira/Travelogue version' digest. Please >refrain from posting about the original Hejira. It >really makes me mad." > >I thought such histrionics were reserved for acting >school flunkees. > >I don't know about the rest of you but living in a >vacuum is too grey and dusty for my liking. If you >don't like it, delete it. The sun will rise the next >day. Life will go on. And your finger may benefit from >the exercise. > >Sorry I'm being a bitch. But I am. (At least tonight) > >-Andrew >Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. >http://mailplus.yahoo.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 12:11:58 -0700 From: Les Irvin Subject: Those errant posters At 1/29/2003 11:28 AM, blonde in the bleachers wrote: >First off, this whole discussion about Joni's gay fans is self-serving >and quite boring, > >The whole NJC was never really that big of an issue until a >bunch of people decided that they could post crap like transexual >blahbity blah and shit about Bush, Israel, The Arab World etc Well, you know what they say, "One man's trash is another man's treasure". First of all, this IS a list about Joni Mitchell but not restricted to that. In the introductory email that you all got when you subscribed, it explains that the "JMDL is an unmoderated discussion of anything and everything related to the life, art, music, and times of Joni Mitchell". That statement can and has been interpreted on many different levels. I don't always read or agree with the off-topic things that are posted here but I think those topics add to the flavor of the list as a whole. The Joni content ebbs and flows based on what Joni is doing, how active she is, and MOST OF ALL on what topics list members introduce. If you don't like what is being discussed - introduce a topic and bring it back home. Over the years, we've been through this NJC debate many, many times. In my opinion, the NJC tag has effectively eliminated the argument's power because now *there is a way to eliminate the non-Joni content* if you don't want it. Given that, you have to understand that every single member of the list (over 800) is a human being and capable of making mistakes. Posts unrelated to Joni that are not labelled NJC are 99.96% of the time simply an oversight. The venom spewed back as a result of those oversights never ceases to amaze me. ***Humans! PLEASE remember to mark your non-Joni posts with NJC in the subject line. Thanks!*** OnlyJONI people: If you find the unmarked NJC posts have simply reached an intolerable level, might I suggest checking out a few other Joni lists out there: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jonimitchellfanclub (161 members) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jonimitchell/ (77 members) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/JoniMitchellfans/ (122 members) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jonimitchell20/ (5 members) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/JoniMitchellisanAngelofLove/ (5 members) These may offer you what you are looking for. You can also start your own Joni list for free at: http://groups.yahoo.com >It is just as easy to put NJC in the subject line. On this you and I both agree. Since this is a Joni-based list, I feel the non-Joni based posts should be marked, not the other way around. Thanks for listening, folks! Les NP: Cat Stevens: "Trouble" (seriously, really... it is playing right now... :-) NP ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 15:11:43 -0700 From: sl.m@shaw.ca Subject: Re: Down To You But Ron, you did it, and did it beautifully. The thing I take from the line is that "settling for less than fascination" was already as choosy as that person, when sober, dared to be. There's something intensively sad about that, because it can apply to so much in life: work, partners, dreams, the clothes you wear, everything. We spend so much of our lives looking in the gutter, when we should be staring up at the sky. And, as you pointed out, even the thing less fascinating eludes us "a few drinks later" (or a few job redundancies later, or a few lost relationships later. . .) Sarah From: Ron Greer >>>>>>You go down to the pick up station craving warmth and beauty. You settle for less than fascination, a few drinks later you're not so choosy. I m sitting here full of tears, totally fragile and emotional trying to convey the beauty that i see in those lines, but i just cant do it... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 16:43:19 -0500 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Down To You Another interesting component of this song is that it utilizes a technique that Joni employs in some of her other songs as well; that is, it opens and closes with a similar phraseology. The opening/closing/middle repeats: "Everything comes & goes... Constant stranger... It all comes down to you" Like Hejira, where she opens and closes with "I'm travelling in some vehicle, sitting in some cafe", and "Conversation". It's like she's using the technique to close the loop on the thought, or perhaps show the cyclical nature of the issue at hand, or the lack of resolution. It's as if she's saying 'here I am at the end of this thought and I'm right back where I started from'. I have no idea if this is intentional or if she means it that way. I just find it an interesting technique. Bob NP: Macy Gray, "My Nutmeg Phantasy" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 17:06:02 EST From: FredNow@aol.com Subject: Joni songs on piano "Sarah Cartwright" writes: >Totally agree on your praise for Howard's 'For Free' . I would recommend >his rendition of 'Blue' aswell - that is really beautiful and is a real >pleasure to play. Who is Howard? Where can I hear his renditions? My favorite piano rendition of "My Old Man" is by Fred Hersch on his wonderful live solo album, Let Yourself Go. Highly recommended. Speaking of recommendations, I guess the vestigial entrepreneur in me would be disappointed if I didn't seize this opportunity to plug my own piano renditions of Joni songs: Both Sides Now, For Free, and Michael From Mountains, all available on my private release album Songs of My Youth, Vol. 1, which also includes songs by The Beatles, Dylan, Beethoven, and me. Some folks on this list claim to enjoy it very much; anyone interested in copping one please feel free to e-mail off-list. - -Fred Simon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 17:59:04 -0500 (EST) From: "walterphil" Subject: my 2 joni cents (thread #1) whenever i want to impress someone who isn't a joni fan i usually try cold blue steel and sweet fire followed by maybe, song for sharon usually gets at least a grudgingly positive reaction (jeeez how could they not?) once i played a musician friend "the gallery" and he thought it was so amazing that EVERY LINE had a different little melodic hook or twist to it and he was so right (thread #2) i think gays are more attracted to the female voice, period. most straight males like male singers (dylan, eric clapton, aerowsmith, melloncamp, whatever) women and gays are more inclined to females (just my own ignorant broad observation) but growing up i was always drawn towards judy, joan, joni, laura not to mention martha, aretha, and diana followed by billie, sarah, and rosie in my college days (yeah i'm a big fruit) i especially like a chicks voice combined with an airy or fantasticle melody and/or arrangement gets me everytime you know what REALLY gets me? 2 girls in harmony. unbelievabe the b 52's mammas and the pappas even abba (and of course, joni or laura overdubbing themselves) just soaring soaring magic (thread #3) well i finally bought travelog sigh on the positive side-i think joni's voice is just GREAT. yes its different and older, of course but its still extremely distinctive, expressive, and wonderful. those arrangements and tempos really suck tho. (for the roses, one of my most favorite joni songs, is unlistinable. ditto for hejira and refuge.) but i'll also say job's sad song was pretty good (made me realize i missed it the first time around) also liked just like this train (in general these songs sound best ONE at a time) any several in a row is mind numbing su the album did send me scampering back to taming the tiger and turbulent indigo making me realize how wonderful they are. joni just has to sit down and write some new songs don't worry gang, she'll be fine xxx walt The most personalized portal on the Web! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 19:40:39 -0500 From: "Heather" Subject: RE: onlyJMDL Digest V2003 #33 Maybe Joni likes pugs. ;-) Heather - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]On Behalf Of Aerchak@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 9:56 PM To: joni@smoe.org Cc: revrvl@chartermi.net Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2003 #33 At least Vince knew he was being an asshole regarding his comments on not using statistical sampling in the gay/lesbian discussion. I thinks it's important to acknowledge when one is being an asshole whenever possible. That said I absolutely refuse to label my Joni postings as JC so everyone else can write about whatever they want ad nauseum and not label theirs NJC. You know what, I don't care anymore. As a matter of fact, let's not discuss Joni mitchell at all. I'm only going to discuss pugs. In particular, my pug, Henry McPug. And sometimes I'm going to talk about greyhounds, but mainly pugs. Andrea ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 17:09:14 -0800 From: "Lori Fye" Subject: Joni likes ... Heather wrote: > Maybe Joni likes pugs. ;-) She may, but I think the dog she has now is a Jack Russell terrier. Kakki? Stephen? You two met up with Joni at the Daily Grill. Is that right? Lori ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 17:54:15 -0800 From: frasere@intergate.ca Subject: Re: Joni likes ... Quoting Lori Fye : > > Maybe Joni likes pugs. ;-) > > She may, but I think the dog she has now is a Jack Russell terrier. > Kakki? Stephen? You two met up with Joni at the Daily Grill. Is that > right? Joni's current dog of choice is indeed the lovely Coco- a Jack Russell. Best Stephen in Vancouver Hey Lori- thanks so much for the book- WOW! :-) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 18:30:25 -0800 (PST) From: Little Bird Subject: Joni in a Volvo commercial? Not sure if anyone has seen this commercial aired, but there is an ad out there for Volvo with a woman driving who looks exactly like Joni, circa 1988. One of those Swedish imports driving her Swedish import. Just thought that was noteworthy. > Andrew you have no idea what being a bitch is, and you are lucky you can't see the finger getting exercise at this moment.> Yaawwwwwwn. (delete.) - -Andrew Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 18:44:04 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: Joni likes ... I have a jpg of Joni, Klein and Coco with Bernie Grundman, mastering T'Log from Music Connection mag last fall. If you would like a copy, email me offlist. frasere@intergate.ca wrote: > Quoting Lori Fye : > > > Maybe Joni likes pugs. ;-) > > > > She may, but I think the dog she has now is a Jack Russell terrier. > > Kakki? Stephen? You two met up with Joni at the Daily Grill. Is that > > right? > > Joni's current dog of choice is indeed the lovely Coco- a Jack Russell. > > Best > Stephen in Vancouver ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 22:01:45 -0600 From: "Happy The Man" Subject: Valentine Days Set List Joni Song Okay the local radio station has a valentine days setlist that you email in and they play. You pick 5 songs and send it in winner gets one of the seven grand prizes. I do it every year and have yet to have my set played. I know that they only want one song per artist or it would be lit up with another Joni list that won't get played. So I thought one song from Joni, but which one? then a joni song by someone else possibly Diana Krall - A Case of You (Live in Paris)? then maybe some other recommendations. Let me know I want to get this in this week. Peace, Craig NP: Van Morrison - when the leaves come falling down ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 20:32:42 -0800 (PST) From: Little Bird Subject: Joni + Don Are there any insiders on this list who know whether Joni and Don Freed are still an item? I'm curious if he too has joined the legions of Joni's ex-bows. - -Andrew Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 20:34:35 -0800 From: "kakki" Subject: Re: Joni + Don Andrew asked: > Are there any insiders on this list who know whether > Joni and Don Freed are still an item? I'm curious if > he too has joined the legions of Joni's ex-bows. When I met Joni and Coco ;-) with Stephen in around Sept. 2001, she told us all about their then-recent break-up. I don't think they've gotten back together because in an interview a few months ago she was saying she kind of liked being unattached at this point. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 21:02:23 -0800 (PST) From: Little Bird Subject: Re: Joni + Don Oh well - I guess Joni just isn't the "commitment" type. I think any man who enters into a relationship with Joni now probably understands that, if she doesn't make it clear to them from the outset. I admire her free spirit, I must say. I'm at a time in my life now where I'm wondering if I'm a settle-down type of guy or a wanderer. Both ways of being appeal to me, as I'm sure they do to Joni. The safety and security of a stable love creates friction with a perceived loss of indepence, living for yourself but also for another, never truly being alone. Your decisions always influence another person when in a realtionship and you soon "talk of love in terms of sacrifice and compromise." On the other hand, the freedom and indepence of singlehood or casual dating can sometimes spiral down to loneliness and isolation and you yearn for that togetherness, that warmth of another body, another soul, another mind. See above for the problems with togetherness! It's a vicious circle, this love. But... I'd be nothing without love... - -Andrew Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 20:59:53 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: coyote i hope this is joni content cuz its about one of her songs...? if not, my apologies to you joni onlys... my friend, the amazing guitar playin singin songwriter caroline aiken did a KILLER version of coyote last night at our gig- omygawd... socal alert! she's heading south tomorrow & friday so check out her calendar at carolineaiken.com if you are in the neighborhood (ventura, los angeles)... she also tours up the west coast & all over the east coast so do check her out & ask her to play coyote! ******************************************** Kate Bennett: www.katebennett.com Sponsored by Polysonics/Atlantis Sound Labs Over the Moon- "bringing the melancholy world of twilight to life almost like magic" All Music Guide ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 21:16:45 -0800 (PST) From: Little Bird Subject: Re: coyote I love this song! My favourite verse from it is: He had those same eyes, just like yours Under your dark glasses Privately probing in public rooms And peeking through keyholes in numbered doors Where the players lick their wounds And take their temporary lovers And their pills and powders To get them through this passion play No regrets, Coyote I just get off up a ways... Wow! Anyone who sings this song live has my undying love. One of the most interesting things I learned from Karen O'Brien's bio was that DJRD (the song) was written as part 2 of Coyote but didn't fit the theme or pace of the Hejira album. - -Andrew Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 00:21:47 -0500 From: "Suzanne MarcAurele" Subject: Really Hot If Mitchell is reading any of this she is probably gagging on the stuff - really hot - not Joni content - just plain what? Over time Mitchell has gone out of her way in words and obviously in her lowkeyed lifestyle to discourage anyone from being an idiot voyeur hoping for time with her in the way we all love the most no doubt! As to "settle for less than fascination" - She might have meant - recognize this? No longer starry eyed in love and nothing fascinating at all about this person , drink some more and then be a capitalist - most of Mitchell is a stream of consciousness of her own mind - damn I know where that is at - should have put my own meanderings over all the angles that usually ends up me not seeking the less than fascinating because it is all so contrived!!! I am none the less amazed how some of you always have time to write - can you send your clock over here?! Kisses S. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 02:04:50 -0500 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Library Links: January 30 On January 30 the following item was published: 1995: "Joni Mitchell" - Variety (Review - Concert) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=1043 ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2003 #35 ******************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)