From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2003 #15 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Thursday, January 16 2003 Volume 2003 : Number 015 Sign up now for JoniFest 2003! http://www.jonifest.com ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Today in History: January 15 [ljirvin@jmdl.com] Today's Library Links: January 15 [ljirvin@jmdl.com] an old tape of Joni ["Michael" ] Re: ** NEW TIME ** Joni's PBS SPECIAL: April 2nd, 2003 [colin ] Re: an old tape of Joni [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: ** NEW TIME ** Joni's PBS SPECIAL: April 2nd, 2003 [Jerry Notaro ] Joni/JT Tape of BBC Concert 1970 [Jason Wong ] SJC. Thanks and thanks and re grief and Truly Madly Deeply and the Parking God ["Lucy Hone" ] joni concert, detroit, 1974 [Jkp1953@aol.com] Re: joni concert, detroit, 1974 ["Bree Mcdonough" ] Apologies ["Arlene T." ] SJC Downhill skiing tracks for the piste and Tom Waits ["Lucy Hone" ] Duncan & Brady [Bruce Kimerer ] JoniMitchell.com face lift [Little Bird ] Today's Library Links: January 16 [ljirvin@jmdl.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 03:01:51 -0500 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today in History: January 15 1989: Joni presented an award at the NAACP Awards Show. - ---- For a comprehensive reference to Joni's appearances, consult Joni Mitchell ~ A Chronology of Appearances: http://www.jonimitchell.com/appearances.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 03:01:51 -0500 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Library Links: January 15 On January 15 the following items were published: 1976: "A Summer Garden of Verses" - Rolling Stone (Review - Album, with photographs) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=259 1976: "Knockin' on Hurricane's Door" - Rolling Stone (Review - Concert, with photographs) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=299 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 19:39:24 +1000 From: "Michael" Subject: an old tape of Joni Hi All I have come into possession of a tape of Joni. It is a concert from 1970 with James Taylor. The tracks Just Joni That Song About Midway The Gallery A song I dont know... The Keeper Of The Inn? River (piano) My Old Man (piano) Another I dont Know....The Priest sat in the airport bar.... Carrie (appalacian dulcimer) with a great description about the caves area. With James A Case Of You California He Played Real Good For Free(James,guit, vocals Joni,piano) The Circle Game(James,guit,vocals Joni,guit,vocals) More still... I haven't listened to it all My point being...if this concert is not in circulation I will do it up on CD and send it of to whoever might distribute it. An interesting intro to Circle Game where Joni describes how she wrote this song for Neil Young and all of us as well Cheers Michael ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 10:22:22 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: ** NEW TIME ** Joni's PBS SPECIAL: April 2nd, 2003 most vcrs come with both NTSC and PAL here in the UK. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 10:54:03 -0000 From: "Chris Marshall" Subject: RE: ** NEW TIME ** Joni's PBS SPECIAL: April 2nd, 2003 [I've left this without an NJC tag, just in case this info is useful to any UK/Europe Joni-onlies who are considering getting this tape] Colin wrote: > most vcrs come with both NTSC and PAL here in the UK. True, unless you buy a really cheap one, in which case they're mostly PAL only. And beware, to get NTSC *and* stereo will cost you more money. Getting a dual-standard VCR that does PAL in stereo but NTSC in mono is really frustrating... when all you bought it for was to watch S&L. Ask me how I know... However, it's not as simple as just buying the right sort of NTSC capable VCR. 'scuse me if I start teaching people to suck eggs, but a bit of background is useful. US TV == 525 lines, 60 Hz refresh rate giving 30 frames/sec NTSC (Never Twice the Same Colour :) to encode the colours UK TV == 625 lines, 50 Hz refresh rate giving 25 frames/sec PAL (Phase Alternate Line) to encode the colours So UK (and european TV) trades off a few frames per second against increased vertical resolution, or detail. This isn't a problem for most people since the phosphor used in most TVs is high enough persistence (i.e. it glows for a bit once the electron beam in the tube has moved past it) that we don't tend to notice 50Hz flicker. Here's the rub: NTSC videotapes are encoded with NTSC colour, 525 lines and 60Hz framerate. NTSC capable VCRs, in the main, just convert the colour, *but leave the other stuff alone*. The implication is, therefore, that your TV set has to be able to cope with 525 lines and 60Hz - something alien for europe and the UK. Modern sets (rule of thumb: with SCART sockets on the back) will probably do this. Older sets (rule of thumb: phono or BNC sockets for video input) may well not deal with it. So check first, maybe by renting an NTSC capable VCR for a time, that your TV can cope. If you rent such a VCR and the TV doesn't cope, the odds are you can just say "this kit doesn't work with mine" and terminate the rental. That way you don't end up out of pocket. Hope this is useful. - --Chris ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 06:46:29 EST From: Aerchak@aol.com Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2003 #14 posting about seeing Joni prior to 1998 When I said it seems hardly anyone has seen Joni prior to 1998, I was referring to the "Blondes in the Bleachers" section on the JMDL site. There's only a handful of shows listed prior to '98, that is what I meant by "at least no one has posted about it." Andrea ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 07:10:42 EST From: Aerchak@aol.com Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2003 #14/ PBS American Master's program I don't think we have to panic yet as it is only January! Andrea ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 07:26:13 -0500 From: Deb Messling Subject: More details on Joni & Graham at the Aperture Foundation From a gossip column in today's NY Times: Life Used to Be So Hard Once upon a time in America, there was a golden rock 'n' roll couple, JONI MITCHELL and GRAHAM NASH, who were the J.LO and BEN of their time. They worked and lived together, he wrote a song about the house they shared ("Our House") they broke up, she dated JAMES TAYLOR. Last week, the Aperture Foundation awarded its Alfred Stieglitz Award for creative amateur photography to Mr. Nash, and Ms. Mitchell presented the award. In his acceptance speech, Mr. Nash, who grew up in England, spoke of being given his first camera at age 10 by his father. He drew gasps from the crowd when he said that the camera was stolen and that his father, refusing to divulge the man who sold it to him, went to jail. "In a way, I'm living for my dad," Mr. Nash said later. "When Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young played Wembley Stadium, in 1974, the first thing I did was kick a ball on the field. His biggest ambition was to go from Manchester to London to watch the Cup finals, and he never made it. I put my mother in the royal box and went down on the field, kicking a ball around for my dad." - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Deb Messling -^..^- messling@enter.net - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 1/10/03 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 08:19:53 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: an old tape of Joni Michael, This is Joni and James 1970 concert on BBC. It well prized by both Joni and James Talor fans, especially for its quality. Here are the details: Joni Mitchell (BBC concert with James Taylor) 1970 In Concert Paris Cinema London, England / October 29, 1970 Michael wrote: > Hi All > I have come into possession of a tape of Joni. It is a concert from 1970 > with James Taylor. > > The tracks > > Just Joni > > That Song About Midway > The Gallery > A song I dont know... The Keeper Of The Inn? > River (piano) > My Old Man (piano) > Another I dont Know....The Priest sat in the airport bar.... > Carrie (appalacian dulcimer) > with a great description about the caves area. > > With James > > A Case Of You > California > He Played Real Good For Free(James,guit, vocals Joni,piano) > The Circle Game(James,guit,vocals Joni,guit,vocals) > More still... I haven't listened to it all > > My point being...if this concert is not in circulation I will do it up on CD > and send it of to whoever might distribute it. > > An interesting intro to Circle Game where Joni describes how she wrote this > song for Neil Young and all of us as well > > Cheers > Michael ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 08:39:31 -0500 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: an old tape of Joni In a message dated 1/15/2003 4:39:24 AM Eastern Standard Time, michael.cathyb@optusnet.com.au writes: > I have come into possession of a tape of Joni. It is a > concert from 1970 > with James Taylor. Thanks for the offer, Michael...that one's made the rounds pretty good. Besides the initial tape tree way back when, it's been re-mastered to CD a couple different times by a couple different folks. A great recording to be sure, not to be missed. Essential, in fact. Bob NP: Dylan & The Band, "Up On Cripple Creek" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 08:39:50 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: ** NEW TIME ** Joni's PBS SPECIAL: April 2nd, 2003 I'm going to record it in S-VHS if that helps. Jerry "Jim L'Hommedieu (Lama)" wrote: > Hold the presses! The lead story: > > The PBS website says that Joni's edition in the American Masters Series has > been moved up from May to April 2nd, 2003. > > I have 2 VHS Hi-Fi VCRs. I'll be taping it, of course, so if someone wants > a dub, send a blank. The tapes I make are only compatible with machines > that can read a NTSC VHS tape. These are commonly found in Canada and the > USA. John van Tiel reported that compatible, dual-standard VCRs are > available in the Netherlands. Dunno if NZ uses the PAL (UK) format or ours. > > Who's in? > > Lama > > ps, Write me off-list for my snail mail address. > > Reference: > http://www.pbs.org/wnet/americanmasters/database/mitchell_j_homepage.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 16:36:22 -0000 From: "Laurent Olszer" Subject: Outdoors Music, sjc > From: "Lucy Hone" > Subject: Best Albums of 2002 and tales of music outdoors sjc > > Back to Joni and me. When Walkmans first came out I bought one (and lived > off beans on toast for a month after) I had a tape of Blue and went off > to a favourite hill to sit and submerge myself in the scenery and some > class music... > > Ah well...... I have one more lovely tale to tell of music enjoyed > outdoors. > > In 2000 I went skiing in Val Thorens with a friend of mine. Hey Lucy, Just like you I was lucky to go skiing this winter (hadn't done it in 25 years) and brought a walkman on the slopes. I'd be interested in hearing other JMDLers' selection of Outdoors Music. Here is mine: 1) Music for Skiing * Beatles (white album acoustic demos) * Lennon x2 * Los Lobos x2 * Little Feat * U2 live * Ryan Adams * Peter Green (his latest Time Traders is quite psychedelic at times, Peter is amazingly back in shape) * Jefferson Starship (love that 2001 live with Paul Kantner, Marty Balin and newcomers Diana Mangana on vocals and Slick Aguilar on guitar) * Rhino Atlantic Remasters (50 classics from Ray Charles to Sam & Dave, etc) Wish I had taken along: Rolling Stones, Hendrix. PS: It's OK to sing while skiing, you don't stay in one place long enough to bother anyone. 2) Summer's Outdoors Music: here are the highlights of last summer's selection. * Zero/Steve Kimock * Grateful Dead (much more interesting outdoors than indoors IMO, like it was meant for it) * Big Bill Broonzy * America live * Pat Metheny with Jaco Pastorius * Joni of course (Second Fret Sets) Laurent ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 09:02:28 -0800 (PST) From: Jason Wong Subject: Joni/JT Tape of BBC Concert 1970 Hi All, Happy New Year. I was wondering if anyone could help me get a copy from an old tape tree. I have a really old tape of the Joni/James Taylor BBC concert and desparately want to replace it. I made it from a friend in the late 80's and it is completely worn out. Listening to that version of "California" is my absolute favorite. If anyone could help me out, I'd gladly provide tapes, CDs, or whatever else was needed. My email is jaywong@yahoo.com. Cheers, Jason Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 19:09:39 -0000 From: "Lucy Hone" Subject: SJC. Thanks and thanks and re grief and Truly Madly Deeply and the Parking God Hello all....I had no idea that there were so many lovely people out there who would take the time to read, let alone reply to my postings on the site, thank you so much. My mother was a wonderful person who also enjoyed Joni Mitchell but courtesy of me... She particularly liked "Both sides Now" and was in her own right a very brilliant writer and poet and artist and maddeningly batty too.... she introduced me to Haiku when I was 6 (1963!!!) and she won all sorts of prizes for them. One of the prize winners ended up being published on cards for sale in shops. She wrote it when my father was in the far east and she had waited all day in my grandparents house, as he had written to say that he would be phoning her ... it was their anniversary and we, at that time, had no phone. She literally did not move from the chair by the phone all day. Eventually the call came in and it lasted a total of about 2 and a half minutes. AFter she put the phone down she walked, with the stiffest back I have ever seen in my life, out of the room, up the stairs and we heard her crying and crying. the Haiku she wrote was "your voice when we speak accross the pain of distance flowers in my heart" We know little of separation in this day of texts and e-mails and mobile phones and video links and instant communication. The expression of emotion has become some fast forward gallop to make the biggest statement, exceed past limits, erase the creases other previous loves have left on us and on the person fixed in the glazed eye of current adoration!. There seems to exist some certainty that "another one will come along if this one does not work out" so words of affection can be devalued in their overuse. In this day of e-dating and wholesale "have-it-all-and-more" serial relationships I should love to see the art of courtly love restored so that even texting could transcend the "get ur coat u've pulled" form of address and some degree of thought return to our heads and hearts. Oh I must stop being so whimsical but wouldn't it be nice if thought always preceeded words?...... Please note demise of hotmail address, it was getting very sulky about the limit of mails and so I have switched to the virgin one who seems to be much more friendly!! Enjoy your days all of you and thank you again for the wonderful mails. Oh! before I go may I also pass onto you the parking god prayer... It only works if you really believe it will. AS you approach the parking area you hope to park in you have to say...aloud.....No muttering now and you really really hve to believe in it..... Dear and gracious parking god As parking god there be Let me find a parking space where I want it to be....... :-) Lucy Hone ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 14:21:59 -0800 (PST) From: Jason Wong Subject: Joni/JT BBC Concert FOUND Hi All, SCJoniguy has helped me out on my search for the Joni/JT concert. Thanks to the group for helping me find a replacement copy. Especially SCJoniguy. Cheers, Jason Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 17:22:45 EST From: Jkp1953@aol.com Subject: joni concert, detroit, 1974 lurking and lurking. new to the jmdl since this new year, i decided it was time to launch out of lurkdom. joni is a genius, and i'm delighted to find a connection to others who have a similar opinion. my most memorable joni concert was august 8th, 1974. the venue was known as 'pine knob music theatre', about 25 miles north of detroit. this was a very historic evening in america. after much anticipation, joni came on stage to a roaring crowd and sat down to her piano. i think my seats were about tenth row, center, front. the very first thing she said was this: "richard nixon has just resigned." i will never forget it. all of us sensed the 'moment in time', especially joni. she maintained a very celebratory mood the entire performance. she seemed to be having a real good time, almost as if she were hosting a rather large party. the venue being detroit, of course she sang 'the last time i saw richard'. the interesting thing here; her approach to that song was totally playful and comical. the line that begins with ..........richard, you haven't really changed..............well, she started that with "richard...............oh, richard..............i said richard". it was obvious she was not in a mood to be that serious and her tone was close to making fun of her own drama. also, she sang the barmaid's line exactly as she does on travelogue, in that nagging whine, "drink up now, it's gettin' on time to close". quite different than the way it's recorded on blue. that's my story. i hope one or two of you enjoyed it. i've been a joni devotee for 32 years now. many of you are not even that old, but that's fine. last item here. thanks to those of you who dissected rockwell's review. what a subjective bunch of garbage. it seems through the years, many of joni's reviews have been written by people who just don't "get" it. self-indulgent, self-aggrandising,and the like,are merely repetitive tags placed by those who fail to comprehend the originality of her work. sorry for the lengthy debut. love's the greatest beauty. ( jm ) janet ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 17:47:17 -0500 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: joni concert, detroit, 1974 Well..you know that at least one enjoyed your post. :-) And..yes..I hate to do it..but you know there maybe more. Welcome and thanks for sharing. I loved the "Oh, Richard....I said Richard." (love that Joni!) Bree >that song was totally playful and comical. the line that begins with >..........richard, you haven't really changed..............well, she >started >that with "richard...............oh, richard..............i said richard". >it was obvious she was not in a mood to be that serious and her tone was >close to making fun of her own drama. also, she sang the barmaid's line >exactly as she does on travelogue, in that nagging whine, "drink up now, >it's >gettin' on time to close". quite different than the way it's recorded on >blue. that's my story. i hope one or two of you enjoyed it. sorry >for the lengthy debut. love's the greatest beauty. ( jm ) >janet _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM: Try the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 18:22:20 -0500 From: "Arlene T." Subject: Travelogue Opinion : This is my first contribution to this list, so please be kind. : : I've been a rabid Joni fan since childhood, and even when she : went through some experimental phases that I didn't particularly : like, even when she (in my humble opinion) ruined her vocal range : through smoking, I bought the albums to support her efforts. This especially : applied to "Both Sides Now", which I can barely listen to. : : I've now had the opportunity on the Joni website to listen to samples : of her new CD "Travelogue". I may be in the minority here, but man! : Every single song sounded like a dirge to me. Nothing in the slightest : bit upbeat, every song sounded similar. With so many wonderful : songs to choose from in this world, Joni appears to have decided : that only the most morose, plodding tunes are suitable for her. : I can't bring myself to purchase it. : : Again, please be gentle with me. Surely there's someone out there : who agrees with me just a little tiny bit! : : Arlene : ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 18:29:19 -0500 From: "Arlene T." Subject: Apologies I'm sorry that my messages seem to be being sent multiple times. Initially they weren't being sent at all, now I can't stop 'em! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 23:27:44 -0000 From: "Lucy Hone" Subject: SJC Downhill skiing tracks for the piste and Tom Waits Laurent your selection is about as patchwork as mine.... Also seeing Kate's reference to Tom Waits reminded me that he would be wonderful to ski to..... I think "Skipping past the Graveyard".. (Blue Valentines) or Down Town from Heartattack and vine.......would be wonderful to ski to if I could manage even half a snowplough turn.... Hence the torn ligaments.......I cannot do downhill music but I can do sitting on the top of mountains music with no problem....but somehow, I think Tom might jussssssttttt gooooooo for thaaaaaaaaaaaat... Oh what a voice....Saw him in 1981 in London, small venue and it was my first ever encounter with the man...... what a singer.. So Cafe (cos I cannot ski) music would have to include.......... 1 Anything by Joni (naturally) 2 Cafe Bleu .... the Style council 3 Electrif Lycanthope.... Little Feat 4 Dark side of the Moon ...Pink floyd 5 Hell amongst the yearlings....Gillian Welch 6 Fumbling towards Ecstacy..Sarah McLachlan 7 The Mask and the Mirror... Loreena McKennet 8 White Ladders...... David Gray 9 Liege and Leif... Fairport Convention 10 and some sort of compilation including James Taylor, Neil Young, Jackson Browne, Martin Stephenson and Al Stewart... That would keep me happy whilst I sipped a Grande Creme or bottle of beer...... OOOOOOh yes. np Norah Jones come away with me... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 18:48:54 EST From: AzeemAK@aol.com Subject: Re: Travelogue Opinion In a message dated 15/01/2003 23:20:15 GMT Standard Time, hejira57@worldnet.att.net writes: Again, please be gentle with me. Surely there's someone out there : who agrees with me just a little tiny bit! : : Arlene Don't worry Arlene, although you are in a minority, there are a fair few of us who don't rate Travelogue very highly. In fact, the whole gamut of responses have been logged here, from those who think it's her greatest record, to those who love it a lot, to those who have a few reservations, to those who have a lot of reservations, to those who actively dislike it. As for me, I think it's a disaster! I am sure there will be people who suggest that you need to listen to it properly, not through heavily compressed downloads - and that's a fair point, you need a proper system to get the full benefit (if that's the right word!) of the florid arrangements - though personally I don't think anything would make her voice easier to hear. There may be others who suggest that your opinions are worthless as you haven't listened to the whole thing on a decent system. Don't worry about them! Welcome to the list, Azeem in London ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 19:17:10 EST From: KJHSF@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni/JT BBC Concert FOUND/SCJoniguy content In a message dated 1/15/2003 5:23:20 PM Eastern Standard Time, jaywong@yahoo.com writes: > SCJoniguy has helped me out on my search for the > Joni/JT concert. Thanks to the group for helping me > find a replacement copy. Especially SCJoniguy. > Not enough can be said in praise of SCJoniguy (Bob). He is a JMDL treasure, isn't he? In fact, when I grow up, I want to be SCJoniguy! Ken ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 19:28:34 EST From: KJHSF@aol.com Subject: Re: Travelogue Opinion In a message dated 1/15/2003 6:20:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, hejira57@worldnet.att.net writes: > I've now had the opportunity on the Joni website to listen to samples > : of her new CD "Travelogue". I may be in the minority here, but man! > : Every single song sounded like a dirge to me. Welcome to the list! I think you'll find that many members agree with you about BSN. I'm a huge fan of Joni's and haven't played BSN in over a year. I had the same reaction as you about Travelogue's dirgelike nature, especially after hearing Amelia. Her vocal deterioration doesn't really bother me so much-I like the huskiness from the smoke-but the diminished capacity to sustain a note or sing a lengthy phrase without breaking it up into smaller chunks is bothersome, and serves to heighten the dirgelike quality. Still, there are standout cuts sprinkled throughout, and I'm always thrilled to hear whatever it is that Joni's been working on. I just don't find myself playing Travelogue very often. Again, welcome! Ken ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 20:06:23 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni/JT BBC Concert FOUND/SCJoniguy content In a message dated 1/15/2003 7:18:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, KJHSF@aol.com writes: > In fact, when I grow up, I want to be SCJoniguy! > So what do I get to be when *I* grow up? :~( I know, I'll just skip that part... Bob, growing older but NEVER up! NP: Joni, "That Song About The Midway" (giving your CD a test drive, Jason...sounds great!) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 20:09:31 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: joni concert, detroit, 1974 In a message dated 1/15/2003 5:24:16 PM Eastern Standard Time, Jkp1953@aol.com writes: > i hope one or two of you enjoyed it. i've been a > joni devotee for 32 years now. many of you are not even that old, but > that's > fine. > Hiya Janet, & welcome! Thanks so much for the intro, and what a great experience to have seen that classic show! I'm sure that more than "one or two" will enjoy reading it, and probably MOST of us are over that 32 figure... Anyway, hope to hear lots more from you - fresh voices rock. Bob NP: Joni, The Gallery ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 20:17:05 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Travelogue Opinion In a message dated 1/15/2003 6:20:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, hejira57@worldnet.att.net writes: > Every single song sounded like a dirge to me. Nothing in the slightest > : bit upbeat, every song sounded similar. Welcome, Arlene...don't worry, you won't get beaten up here. Like Azeem said, opinions for T'log are all over the board . I'd have liked to hear a little more swing myself, it's why "You Dream Flat Tires" is so welcome, and I also love the new outfit she's put on "Dawntreader", but for the most part I find it pretty uninspired. A lot of that is simply because an artist of Joni's stature has set the bar so high that when she's merely treading water and revisiting old songs it's none too exciting by comparison. Nice ear candy, though...good for me to go to sleep by. Bob NP: JT, "Steamroller Blues" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 22:09:01 -0500 From: "Blair Fraipont" Subject: My Epiphany >Epiphanies anyone? I was 16 and I was definitely out of the grunge-self-depracating phase of my adolescence. I was getting into different music. I had this really cheesy book on Rock n' Roll and one day asked my mother about Joni Mitchell. She mentioned to me that she was always amazed by her range on the song, "HelP mE". Well, I had never even heard anything by Joni Mitchell. Later that year, I took a chance and bought my first Joni album, Turbulent INdigo and my first Tom Waits album (also having never heard a sole note that he had sung). I was totally entranced by the sound of this artist, I loved the strong smokey voice that had an assertive tug on my musical palate. I wondered at that point where was that 'impressive' range that my mother raved about. The smokey voice didn't turn me off, it lured in further. The music was fresh and new to my ears as well, despite my first impression being that I thought most of the instrumentation was more of the "light-jazz" quality, the more I listened, the more I noticed how it didn't serve that label, and infact, like the Tom Waits album I picked up was the same, uncategorizeable. WEll, from there I was hooked and the next Joni album I bought was Dog Eat Dog and I was equally excited about the familiar 80's synth sounds that I had been raised on, weened off (during my grunge phase) and then began to appreciate as I matured. So, I have to say that Turbulent Indigo was my ephipany, and I didn't purchase Blue until 2 and a half years later, which makes me think why did I hold off for so long? Blair :) _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 23:20:44 -0400 From: Bruce Kimerer Subject: Duncan & Brady Bob wrote: "NP: Dylan, "Duncan & Brady" 2/13/02" Bob -- I'm not familiar with this song. Is this a previously unrecorded Dylan piece? Bruce ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 21:20:07 -0800 (PST) From: Little Bird Subject: JoniMitchell.com face lift I was having a browse through jonimitchell.com this evening and was overwhelmed by the wealth of information contained on the site! I've done a bit of transcribing for Wally, as well as Jim Johanson, (Hi Jim, if you're here!) and have contributed some content, but never really explored, in depth, all that there is to explore on that site. It's astounding to me! Having said that, I personally think that the site needs a facelift, or some sort of image change. I know that Jim feels the same way since he mentioned it to me once. I think the site would be wonderful if it was modeled after something like Meryl Streep's website, which is also designed by a fan: http://www.merylstreeponline.net I think it's so beautiful and so classy, streamlined and clear. I wonder if something can be done to improve the look of JM.com and give it the understated glamour and class of the artist it honours. Have a peek at Meryl Streep Online, even if you dislike the actress, and see if you can visualize a similar site dedicated to Joni. - -Andrew Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 02:17:36 -0500 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Library Links: January 16 On January 16 the following items were published: 1975: "Joni Mitchell - a star with staying power" - Christian Science Monitor (Review - Album) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=954 1986: "Dog Eat Dog" - Rolling Stone (Review - Album) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=304 1997: "Woke Up - It Was a Hall Of Fame Morning" - Associated Press (News Item) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=41 ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2003 #15 ******************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)