From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2003 #11 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Sunday, January 12 2003 Volume 2003 : Number 011 Sign up now for JoniFest 2003! http://www.jonifest.com ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- PAULA COLE ON JONI [Cactustree78@aol.com] Joni in Mingus book ["kakki" ] RAIN (sjc) [Thomas Ross ] Truly, madly, deeply [Gertus@aol.com] poconut ["Paul Castle" ] poconut ["Victor Johnson" ] Re: Painting with Words and Music ["Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lama\)" ] [BBC] BBC Travelogue review [aerchak@aol.com] Re: JMDL Digest V2003 #22 -- 1976 tour [BRYAN8847@aol.com] my best 2002 albums ["walterphil" ] Re: Top cds of 2002 [Doug ] Lutheran sighting [vince ] Re: Lutheran sighting [Fauchja@aol.com] Re: Best 10 CD's of 2002 [] Today in History: January 12 [ljirvin@jmdl.com] Today's Library Links: January 12 [ljirvin@jmdl.com] Re: Best 10 CD's of 2002 [KJHSF@aol.com] Re: BBC Travelogue Review [Bobsart48@aol.com] Joni moment included in VH1 special [BRYAN8847@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 03:01:37 -0500 From: Cactustree78@aol.com Subject: PAULA COLE ON JONI One of my fave artists Paula Cole posted this message on her website thought you would all like it..peace, love and light to you all ***Kevin*** " Did any of you see the article in the NY Times about Joni Mitchell's new album "Travelogue"? I am now writing a letter of discontent to the editor. I can't believe the disrespect shown by that writer. Joni Mitchell has contributed so monumentally to the world of music. I believe in my heart that she will be leaving the business soon and she is leaving us with her own "Lady In Satin" (Billie Holiday) or "Live at Montreaux" (Miles Davis)....And, I think she has evolved into a brilliant painter. Painting is now her voice." -Paula Cole ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 23:32:12 -0800 From: "kakki" Subject: Joni in Mingus book A few weeks ago at Borders I noticed a new book out by Sue Mingus, "Tonight at Noon: A Love Story," about her life with Charles Mingus. I looked through it for the Joni story and it is there, but only in passing and comprising a few pages. She is friendly to Joni but I got the impression that she regarded her as a young and fanciful girl breezing through on her visit with Charlie in Mexico. There is, however, a photo of Joni with Charlie, that is one of the most beautiful I've ever seen. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 07:51:13 -0500 (EST) From: Thomas Ross Subject: RAIN (sjc) Hi all. Joni is one of my alltime inspirations. If there's a direct connection to my new album, it's her setting Yeats to music. Indirectly I feel indebted to her courage, inventiveness, verbal acuity and much more. THE RAIN TAKES OFF HER CLOTHES is acoustic, jazz-rooted music with influence from India and Africa, and deriving from poets such as Mary Oliver, W S Merwin, Emily Dickinson, and Pablo Neruda. Do check it out! Clips on the website; available there and through CD Street. Happy new year! What do they call Santa's little helpers? Subordinate Clauses. Album blurb below. Tom Ross * FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE * Album of Global Jazz Songs Unveiled! THE RAIN TAKES OFF HER CLOTHES is Tom Ross's long-awaited sophomore work following the critically acclaimed *Horse of Stone* album, which was sponsored by David Crosby. Like *Horse*, THE RAIN TAKES OFF HER CLOTHES is jazz-based acoustic guitar songs by composer-performer Tom Ross. The influence from India and Africa is once again evident in the tones and rhythms, but the textures are leaner, and the debt is greater to poets such as Pablo Neruda (whose line prompted the title song). The lyrics are also based on the work of Emily Dickinson, W. S. Merwin, and George Herriman of the Krazy Kat comic strip. THE RAIN features reedman Charlie Keagle (also heard on *Horse of Stone*), Mike Migliozzi on drums, Josh Zucker on bass, and background vocalist Carin Gado. Ross is on vocals, guitar, fretless 12-string guitar, as well as sequencing and programming. The striking album is wide in its range of moods and topics. In "The Fox's Body," a Zen monk gives the wrong answer to a koan question and is turned into a fox; "The Smile in the Stone" tells of a mason on a medieval church who discovers his mystical ties to the stone; while "Who My Soul Loves" adapts sexy love-poetry from the Song of Solomon. Fans of *Horse of Stone* will find THE RAIN equally satisfying, while notably sparer, and marked by the view of an artist in middle life. Indian rhythms and vocal styling imbue many of the songs, with danceable grooves stemming from the African-American funk of Ross's jazz heritage. THE RAIN TAKES OFF HER CLOTHES is a triumph of song that defies category, and a must-have for the discerning listener. Contact: Mijazi Music 623 Rankin Schenectady, NY 12308 OR CDStreet.com more info: http://www.tom.rossweb.com * Tom Ross Mijazi Music (518) 372-2611 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 08:23:27 EST From: Gertus@aol.com Subject: Truly, madly, deeply My all time favourite film, "Truly, Madly, Deeply" is being shown on UK Channel 4 tonight at 10 pm. And, it has Joni content so watch or video it if you can! Jacky ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 18:26:02 -0000 From: "Paul Castle" Subject: poconut Funny what linking two names, like say "joni mitchell" + "rusty young" can unearth on an internet search. Having just heard a track on the radio from the first all new Poco album for 13 years - ['If Your Heart Needs a Hand' from their new "Running Horse" album, which has a real CSNY groove to it] and liking it a lot, I went searching to see if Rusty had ever played pedal steel for Joni (Sneaky Pete was the usual session player, wasn't he?) I came across these consecutive Q&As on the 'Ask Robert Hilburn' LA Times column in June last year http://www.calendarlive.com/cl-ask-hilburn062502,0,2805983.story >>>>>>>>>>> Q: Why is it that Joni Mitchell is often not included in lists of great songwriters and guitarists which typically include the likes of Bob Dylan, Springsteen, Tom Petty, etc.? Women in general seem to be left out, but Mitchell is a unique case (for a man or a woman) in terms of her artistry. --John Kendall, Los Angeles. [Robert Hilburn] "Excellent question John. You certainly will never get an argument from me about ranking Joni among the greatest and most influential singer-songwriters of the modern pop era. As a pure thinker and stylist, in fact, I'd put her on a level with Bob Dylan alone. She brings such sophistication and grace and poetry to her music and words. I've been delighted over the years to hear other artists speak so highly of her. She is a North American treasure. Q: I love the music of the band Poco, which was founded by Richie Furay and Jim Messina back in the late 60's. The band is still playing and are working on a new CD. Yes, members have come and gone, but steel guitarist Rusty Young is still in the group as is George Grantham, Paul Cotton and Jack Sundrud. In your opinion, why have they been left out of the Rock And Roll Hall of Fame? The Byrds are in as are The Eagles. Thank you, -- Andrew Rios, West Covina. [RH] I was a big fan of Poco in the '60s and I still enjoy some of those early records, but, in all honesty, I just don't think they are of Hall of Fame caliber. I think the Byrds and the Eagles--to mention the bands you cited--have a more enduring body of work. I'd also rank the Flying Burrito Brothers (thanks to the Gram Parsons connection) as a more valuable musical entry, one that is more deserving of a place in the Hall than Poco. The best thing about Poco wasn't so much the songwriting (which is something I prize in a band), but their musicianship. To me, the Eagles were a mix of the soulful songwriting of the Burrito and the professionalism and musicianship of Poco. Of the two traits, I'd always go with the soulful songwriting. > >>>>>>>> Anyone interested, and with an hour to spare, might enjoy listening to BBC Radio 2's Bob Harris interviewing Rusty Young (about the old days and the new album) - should be able to hear it all this week - until next Thursday at least - at http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/country/ and click on the 'Bob Harris' link in the top right hand 'Listen Again' section. PaulC [who never knew he originally wrote 'Rose of Cimmaron' for Roy Rogers/Sons of the Pioneers] PS. there are some short sample MP3s from the new album on their official site @ www.poconut.com PPS Any one know what Sneaky Pete Kleinow's up to these days? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 13:42:21 -0800 From: "Victor Johnson" Subject: poconut >Funny what linking two names, like say >"joni mitchell" + "rusty young" >can unearth on an internet search. joni mitchell + ethel merman pulled up this below: Her popularity as a recording star also prompted tours in 1972 and 1974, the latter with the five-piece rock band, L.A. Express. There was disappointment, however, when she appeared in outdoor arenas such as Wembly Stadium, London, the criticism being that it was impossible to concentrate on her lyrics. When she sang at the smaller acoustically excellent Avery Fisher Hall in New York, however, she was called folk songs Ethel Merman. Mel James http://collections.ic.gc.ca/heirloom_series/volume6/136-139.htm Victor in Ashelanta NP: Joni -"Refuge of the Roads" - --- Victor Johnson - --- waytoblu@mindspring.com Visit http://www.cdbaby.com/victorjohnson Look for the new album "Parsonage Lane" in March 2003 Produced by Chris Rosser at Hollow Reed Studios ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 14:43:58 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lama\)" Subject: Re: Painting with Words and Music 1. The mental image of Joni sitting there, dressed.... like that 2. The great tagline to the story: "Just look at them God-damned stars." Lama, who's not sure he believes every word of the tale but it does make a great tale. Oh, yeah, the band and the music on PwWaM are world-class too. Can't forget that! Bob said, >>>>>Definite agreement from me, Andrea! I bought the video when it came out, and now I have to upgrade to the DVD as the picture and sound is SO much better! It's worth it for Joni's knitting story alone! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 14:54:37 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Painting with Words and Music In a message dated 1/11/2003 2:45:07 PM Eastern Standard Time, jlamadoo@fuse.net writes: > who's not sure he believes every word of the tale but it does make a great > tale. > Well, one should never let the truth get in the way of a great story! ;~) Among her MANY talents, Joni is an A #1 storyteller. Bob NP: Remy Shand, "rocksteady"...THANKS Stephen! I was expecting this to be more jazzy, but it is SOUL with a capital "S". Remy is Al Green, Marvin Gaye, Prince, and Seal rolled into one, and the dude is white! Gives hope to us blue-eyed soul singers! ;~) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 14:56:22 -0600 From: "mia ortlieb" Subject: re: medley-little green Little Green and The Circle Game are both in the same tuning, known as "open G". I can't remember how this particular medley goes, but I recall hearing a perfomance where Joni actually gives away the name of her daughter by singing "Kelly Green..." instead of "little green". Mia _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 21:58:46 GMT From: aerchak@aol.com Subject: [BBC] BBC Travelogue review http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/classicpop/reviews/jonimitchell_travelogue.shtml Don't know if we've discussed this one yet. Andrea - -- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ This message was sent to you using the "Email a friend" facility on the BBC's WWW site, http://www.bbc.co.uk/. If you wish to complain about this email, please forward it in its entirety to webmaster@bbc.co.uk. The BBC is not responsible for the content of this email, and anything said in this email does not necessarily reflect the BBC's views. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 18:09:53 EST From: BRYAN8847@aol.com Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2003 #22 -- 1976 tour I only saw Joni live once and that was in 1976 but i am so glad that I did. I did not realize at the time that it would probably be the only time in my life that I would ever see her perform. Anyway, I've been thinking about what to write about that concert. I wish I had it all stored right in my head, but you know it was (I just did the math) 27 years ago, so it's not a whole video, just images or moments that fit into a larger scenario. Anyway, I do remember being really close. This is when great artists/musicians could actually play for people. I remember being awestricken. I remember Joni being very thin and noticeing that, thinking she was too thin. I know she wore black pants. I clearly her remember sitting at the piano. And I remember her introducing and performing "Coyote" as a new song. Andrea I saw Joni perform on that same tour. I think Joni wore the same, or similar, black slacks at the show I attended, in January or February I think at the University of Cincinnati Fieldhouse (a building now gone, I think). The place was over-sold (it's amazing the fire marshall didn't shut the show down, people were sitting in the aisles) and there was a lot of controversy about the promoter overselling the house and perhaps moving the show to a larger venue. Anyway, Joni didn't say a word that night, other than asking the audience something like "So, are you guys a little crazy?" as a way of introducing Twisted. She wore a feather boa while doing Raised on Robbery. She laughed a little while singing "the wind rushed around in the dirty town" in For Free, perhaps a comment on how she viewed Cincinnati. She was indeed very thin. I remember she announced some new material and then sang a long medley of Coyote and DJRD (which sounded very similar to each other at that time, the final arrangements hadn't been worked out, and DJRD lacked Jaco's incredible bass performance). Anyway, I remember thinking Joni seemed rather distant and vulnerable, while being kind of "icy." But I loved that, it added to the Siquomb mystique. During that tour, Rolling Stone published a scathingly negative concert review that included a very awful photo of Joni looking very skeletal and wraith-like. Anyway, I was very young and impressionable at the time (still in high school) and I think it was my first concert. Obviously, it had quite an impact... Bryan ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 18:56:13 -0500 (EST) From: "walterphil" Subject: my best 2002 albums heathen-bowie (always good-always suprising and innovative) halos and horns-dolly parton (in my opinion she deserves her own discussion list) don't worry about me-joey ramone (so sad he's gone-not a bad cut on this cd) frantic-bryan ferry (standards done bryan style and a hell of lot better than that rod stewart embarrassment) a cellarful of motown-various artists (all unreleased and all A-1 motown-it sounds like a greatest hits-probably my favorite cd of the year) 3 re-issues-laura nyro (she's my favorite-the xtra trax and demos are worth the price) at the bbc-the jam (so under rated-so good) pet shop boys-release (yes they're still kickin) rosemary clooney-the last concert (boy do i miss her already) and i just wanna say i believe in God and Jesus but i don't believe it is the only way (allah and buddah et al. are A-ok too, i'm sure) and i feel sorry for peple that don't believe in anything but i can't stand arm twisters and bible thumpers that try to convert you-- you gotta discover it on your own religion should be as private and as personal as your sexual preference- love walt The most personalized portal on the Web! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 20:30:19 -0500 From: Doug Subject: Re: Top cds of 2002 Two of my favorite artists that I haven't seen mentioned by anyone else: 1. Oh Susanna "Sleepy Little Sailor" and "Johnstown" 2. Dido "No Angel" Doug ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 21:06:32 -0500 From: vince Subject: Lutheran sighting Is that ELCA synod, in Delaware Maryland, Virginia? We have more than one Lutheran on here? Please tell me more.... Vince Fauchja@aol.com wrote: > I always think of the line my former pastor (and now the Delmarva > Lutheran synod bishop) always quotes and attributes to Martin Luther... > > "Why let the Devil have all the good tunes....." > > Fauchja > > NP: Corsicana Daily Sun - Billy Joe Shaver ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 21:13:18 EST From: Fauchja@aol.com Subject: Re: Lutheran sighting yes ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 14:38:46 +0800 (PHT) From: Subject: Re: Best 10 CD's of 2002 responding late to posts: my top CDs for 2002 (some are old albums which i just bought in CD format) 1) caecilie norby - first conversation (a danish jazz singer who reminds you of the exquisite phrasing of nancy wilson [not of "heart" fame] and the musical insouciance of an anita o'day. 2) 8 mile soundtrack (a direct result of watching curtis hanson's "8 mile" starring eminem where rap and hip hop were placed in its rightful context, and how i love the album with performances from eminem to macy gray; thanks vince for the encouragement) 3) dave brubeck - young lions and old tigers (a collaboration project with the piano impressionism of brubeck as framed in the dynamism of guest artists from christian mcbride to george shearing to gerry mulligan to jon hendricks) 4) dizzy gillespie - bird songs (his final live performance in the blue note with the horn players he was with for the last 4-5 decades of his prolific life; the master of afro-cuban music played mostly charlie parker songs and a very ingenious "tunisian fantasy" that had bobby mcferrin's pliant vocals channelling clark terry's trumpet) 5) julia fordham - concrete love (the lowest contralto in contemporary pop music this side of alison limerick, cleo laine and patti cathcart; beautiful ballads in sparse musical setting that showcased the depth of this woman's voice; with larry klein's arrangement) 6) eva cassidy - time after time (sweet rendition of songs that does not betray their integrity; a classic display of good singing and a great album no serious collector should be without) 7) pat metheny - speaking of now (creative, inventive, superlative; thanks to fred simon's early reviews that led me to get this) 8) ann sally - voyage (an engaging voice that is so immersed in the bossa nova idiom; very unaffected just like most singers singing in portuguese; reminds you of astrud, elis regina and gal costa even if she is korean; her version of "all i want" is beautiful in its simplicity) 9) shirley horn - you're my thrill (slow-burning ballads in an impossibly slow pace; haunting vibrato-less voice of someone who seems to have lived through the songs she is singing about; done with little drama but when listened at 2-3AM could be a heady experience) 10) kings of convenience - quiet is the new loud (guitar-driven musical outing from two danish talents; almost sombre; at times heartbreakingly direct; a type of singing that you usually heard people do when they are alone and doing something manual; no-frills) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 02:00:40 -0500 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today in History: January 12 1986: Joni was interviewed at WNEW-FM. - ---- For a comprehensive reference to Joni's appearances, consult Joni Mitchell ~ A Chronology of Appearances: http://www.jonimitchell.com/appearances.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 02:00:40 -0500 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Library Links: January 12 On January 12 the following items were published: 1969: "The Miami Festival: An Inspired Bag of Pop" - New York Times (Review - Concert) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=824 1986: "New York Interview" - WNEW-FM (Interview - Audio Transcription) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=728 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 02:18:54 EST From: KJHSF@aol.com Subject: Re: Best 10 CD's of 2002 In a message dated 1/12/2003 1:39:37 AM Eastern Standard Time, jpalis@kssp.upd.edu.ph writes: > 10) kings of convenience - quiet is the new loud > (guitar-driven musical outing from two danish talents; almost sombre; at > times heartbreakingly direct; a type of singing that you usually heard > people do when they are alone and doing something manual; no-frills) > Yes! These guys are a modern day Simon and Garfunkel with somewhat more complex chord structures and harmonies. One of their tunes is used as background music on the cell-phone commercial where the young guy and his girlfriend are traveling on a train and he sends her a message that reads "I spy something that begins with a 'B'"--just as a herd of cattle run alongside the train. Thought I would pass that along in case anyone is wondering who performs that beautiful song. It's frustrating when you hear a song you like on a commercial and have no way to discover the performer! Ken ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 02:19:47 EST From: Bobsart48@aol.com Subject: Re: BBC Travelogue Review Thanks, Andrea, for posting this one. > BBC Travelogue review > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/classicpop/reviews/jonimitchell_travelogue.shtml > > Don't know if we've discussed this one yet. > > At the risk of looking biased, I must say that this review is a lot more like a review ought to be. Even though it is a lot more favorable than Rockwell's in the NY Times. ;-) I was a bit non-plussed by the saccharine reader comments - as if, in England, if one has nothing nice to say, one says nothing. Only kidding, Azeem :-) Bob S ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 02:44:55 EST From: BRYAN8847@aol.com Subject: Joni moment included in VH1 special Bill Clinton, Michael Jackson and The Beatles Hit the Top Slots on VH1 and TV Guide's '100 Moments That Rocked TV' Countdown VH1 and TV Guide Open the Vaults of Television and Music and Count Down Legendary Moments in a Five-Hour, Five-Night Special, Premiering Monday-Friday, January 13-17 at 10:00 P.M. (ET/PT) NEW YORK, Jan. 9 /PRNewswire/ -- From Michael Jackson's moonwalk on Motown 25 to Madonna's sexually charged performance of "Like a Virgin" at the first MTV VMA's, music on television has come a long way since Elvis first shook his pelvis in primetime. Hosted by "Saturday Night Live's" Molly Shannon, VH1 and TV Guide's "100 Moments That Rocked TV" count down those unforgettable moments when rock music and television combined to make entertainment history in a five-hour, five-night special, premiering Monday, January 13, through Friday, January 17, from 10:00-11:00 p.m. (ET/PT) each night. The chosen 100 Moments also appear in TV Guide's January 11th issue (on newsstands January 6). Following in the tradition of VH1's hit "100 Greatest" specials, "100 Moments That Rocked TV" features archival clips and classic performances, plus exclusive new interviews including Dick Clark, Arsenio Hall, Tommy Smothers, David Cassidy, Barry Williams, John Corbett, Davy Jones, Ice Cube, Norah Jones, Justin Timberlake, Melissa Etheridge, Kelly Rowland, Heart, Chris Isaak, Leann Rimes, Vanessa Carlton, Snoop Dogg, Richie Sambora and Ashanti, among others. Viewers can log onto http://www.vh1.com/shows/dyn/100-greatest/63769/episode.jhtml to see photos of TV's most rockin' events, play a trivia game and check out the full countdown with extensive artist info. Fans can also vote for what they think is the top music moment that rocked TV beginning on Monday, January 13 at TV Guide Online (http://www.tvguide.com) The complete list of VH1's "100 Moments That Rocked TV" is attached. #70 DICK CAVETT SHOW - post Woodstock broadcast features Joni Mitchell's American TV debut. I deleted the rest of the list, I though it a little long to post here Bryan ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2003 #11 ******************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)