From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2002 #406 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Thursday, December 26 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 406 Sign up now for JoniFest 2003! http://www.jonifest.com ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- happiness greetings to all [cul heath ] Re: happiness greetings to all [colin ] Merry Christmas [Catherine McKay ] A Christmas Joni Morning Memory [Mark129@cs.com] Re: A Christmas Joni Morning Memory sjc [RoseMJoy@aol.com] An Apology and Goodbye [nyroman ] Re: Kratzmann, Australia & Exams ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: An Apology and Goodbye [RoseMJoy@aol.com] thanx for the best wishes [cul heath ] a joni classic ["Marianne Rizzo" ] Re: (Kept On) By Her Own Devices LP [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: thanx for the best wishes [colin ] Re: An Apology and Goodbye [colin ] Re: a joni classic ["Bree Mcdonough" ] Joni on orchestration in 1968 ["PAUL PETERSON" ] December 26th!!!!!!! [RoseMJoy@aol.com] Today's Library Links: December 26 [ljirvin@jmdl.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2002 01:36:49 -0800 From: cul heath Subject: happiness greetings to all A silent night indeed in coastal vancouver Since roomie/mate is in the interior of BC to dance the holiday familial with kin and since this year I am taking a break from that sort thing, I'm alone in the house and feeling it. May I borrow your ear? Its not bad; its spacey and reflective and being filled with playing the keys creatively... sometimes Joni , sometimes me, sometimes things I don't think anyone owns yet. One of the aspects of Joni music that I have always treasured is how it has always been the best tutor one could ever hope for; and on so many levels. Joni educated me. She expanded my musical abilites in an immense way and more importantly perhaps, she has been a great instructer of attitude and what it means to be an adult. I think that's why I was so obsessed (in a good way of course) with her for so many years; I used her as the centerpiece of my social evolution. I am a woman of heart and mind With time on her hands No child to raise You come to me like a little boy And I give you my scorn and my praise You think I'm like your mother Or another lover or your sister Or the queen of your dreams Or just another silly girl When love makes a fool of me Ah, the salad days of romance and and naive certainties. All situations resolved to snippets of Mitchell lyric...it was incredible how easily her lyrics fit so many different random circumstances. She occupied at least a third of my communications. Yes I was a bonafide Joni Pod Person...an enslaved JPP...its true. But I feel better in these days of middle age...less capitivated by the iconic. I don't idolize things anymore. I am still fascinated by creation, but I have assumed a certain responsibility for my own and that means idols and gods and nations do not evoke any allegiance in me beyond showing respect for that which evidences itself as "something to grow on". And that is a good description of how I now attach to Mitchell. I lose myself in one of her tunes and ideas of my own spill out and I find myself fluidly playing things that are unique and bizarre and stretch me. Mitchell is a fabulous tool for the ear and emotional center. So this is Christmas... Outside it is still and frosty. What was supposed to be rain today turned into a hour or two cascade of fat snowflakes. It was enough to leave a scattering of white on lawns and trees and parked cars, but melted on the streets. The Christians were calling it a miracle. All it for me was evoke thoughts of the drifts on Myrtle's lawn and all those harsh winters in Winnipeg walking on snow that squeaked underfoot. That began the sequence of noticing my solitude tonight. god goes up the chimney like childhood santa claus a good slave loves a good book a rebel loves a cause I wish peace. thanx for the ear. cul ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2002 11:15:26 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: happiness greetings to all >I don't idolize things anymore. > >I am still fascinated by creation, but I have assumed a certain >responsibility for my own >and that means idols and gods and nations do not evoke any allegiance in >me beyond showing respect >for that which evidences itself as "something to grow on". > > thanks for your post , michael. I never really had any idols(unless you count Samantha, the witch). It is good to have people on a levelplaying feild. good for our growth and our humanity. 'a good slave loves a good book' i wonder if she means those who slavishly follow everything written in whatever book they have decided is 'The Truth'? be happy colin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2002 07:34:14 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Merry Christmas Merry Christmas, boys and girls, women and men, jc and njc, joni-fans and pod-people. I hope Santa was good to you. ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2002 10:35:04 EST From: Mark129@cs.com Subject: A Christmas Joni Morning Memory Happy Christmas, Many years ago before Mr. Springsteen and before I fell in love and married,there was a radio station in the Jersey area which decided as a Christmas present to fans to play the entire double album Miles of Aisles from her tour. For those of you who would dwell today on The River or a theme of Romance,my wish for you is what we all have had with Joni's career and artistry;the ability to grow old with great music or different music and to look at Joni's backside from For the Roses (it's a guy thing) and be glad Joni and her daughter reconnected so that even if Joni has mantroubles forever,she will always have Love which is what we all want in addition to a reunion tour with Pat Matheny,James Taylor and Carole King and the Persuasions or the Brecker Bros. Hey,I can dream...later,mark in jersey who has Travelogue and one day will figure out Quicktime so I can view the paintings. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2002 12:36:33 EST From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: A Christmas Joni Morning Memory sjc In a message dated 12/25/02 10:36:25 AM Eastern Standard Time, Mark129@cs.com writes: > Many years ago before Mr. Springsteen and before I fell in love and > married,there was a radio station in the Jersey area which decided as a > Christmas present to fans to play the entire double album Miles of Aisles > from her tour. Mark and my other Joni fans, Happy Holidays from Exit 9 off the NJ Turnpike LOL! It's been a great year for music. Joni released her Travelogue album; I had a blast this summer at Jonifest and, following Bruce's Tour and his reunion with the E-Street Band along the East Coast and around the world. There's more to come and I'm real excited about the next leg of the tour as it continues in February 2003! Will this man ever burn out?? Faith will be rewarded as I continue to dream/hope of meeting this guy in a South Jersey bar or restaurant. What would I say? I feckin love you man! LMAO It's a Jersey girl thing. Rediscovering my roots here. Meeting a lot of NJ musicians. Thinking about Gregg Cagno. I watched your video yesterday morning Gregg. His birthday is tomorrow BTW. I'll be the birthday fairy Wally and Jimmy and give you the day off ;0) Looking forward to the redevelopment of Asbury Park. Hoping to see Joni tour again and Tillie all lit up and the Carousel returned to her rightful home. Rosalita in a now rainy NJ it washed away all our feckin snow NP: Sheryl Crow live, Heart of Gold ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2002 13:04:04 -0500 From: nyroman Subject: An Apology and Goodbye Dear Friends of Joni, Hoping I too may bend your ear on this Christmas day. The past year for me has been especially difficult, as a very few of you know. It seems I've been plagued with financial and personal problems and had hoped that my move to Los Angeles this year from Detroit would help me to find hope, a new start and a little happiness in my ability to sing. Unfortunately that was not the case. I left a job of 17 years to make the move, stayed with people that I thought were my friends, only to leave saddened and disappointed. Since my return to Detroit, I have found only minimal work, and have been notified by the people that I am staying with that my room has been rented and that I must vacate at the end of the month. I am not sure that things could possibly get worse at this point. I have never been at the brink of homelessness before, and such minimal work; and I do not have a network of friends for support, except for two or three who simply are not able to help. I have only my mom left, who was admitted to the hospital on Monday with COPD and a collapsed lung. I am expecting that my last day at this residence will be December 31st, so I will be leaving the list on that date. Do know how much I will miss the friends I have made here, as well as those I don't know personally, but feel I know so well by their posts during the past two years. I am sorry to be using the list for this one last request, but as one who loves Joni as much as the rest of you obviously do, I hope you won't mind this last request too much. If there is anyone out there who is in the position of hiring for employment, please do write me, and please, OFF LIST, and I would be happy to discuss my qualifications in greater depth. I would be most grateful. There is no reason for me to necessarily continue living in Michigan in the future, if an opportunity presents itself elsewhere. Or if you have suggestions, they too would be gratefully received. I will be at this e-mail address until the 31st; and after that, I am not sure where I will be. I do maintain a hotmail account which I will check when I can, so for future reference, I can be reached at nyroman98@hotmail.com. If I have the means, I'll rejoin you all on the list as soon as I am able. Thanks for reading my poor and weary words, especially at this time of the year. But if my post does one thing for any of you, I hope it is that you will realize how lucky you are to have family still living; brothers or sisters you can rely on, a warm place to live, and people who love you. This is the time when Joni and my love for her and her music, particularly hits home for me and brings the tears..."I wish I had a river, I could skate away on....." Peace and blessings to you all! Gary Zack P.S. Please forgive the njc - I wanted to reach as many of you as I could. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2002 09:42:28 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Re: Kratzmann, Australia & Exams mags >>my daughter had to present a poem at school and she chose Joni Mitchell's work , and the other day on the phone, she even quoted Joni lyrics within the context of a conversation we were having.<< woohoo mags, you raised her well! what a proud parenting moment for you... happy holidays to all you wonderful jmdl folks, pods & nonpods alike! lol...have a lovely day ******************************************** Kate Bennett: www.katebennett.com Sponsored by Polysonics/Atlantis Sound Labs Over the Moon- "bringing the melancholy world of twilight to life almost like magic" All Music Guide ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2002 13:51:42 EST From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: An Apology and Goodbye Gary, Your post touched my heart. I'm so sorry for the bad turn of events in your life. Hopefully someone here can help u. Does anyone have a place for this brother to stay till he gets back on his feet? It hasn't been a good year for me either. I lost my sister this year Right now my husband is still unemployed and I have only a temp job that I know will end soon. I may be in the same situation soon, so I totally empathize with you. NP: Bruucce live in Philly 10/06/02, Land of Hope And Dreams I was there! This is for you Gary....... Land Of Hope And Dreams Grab your ticket and your suitcase Thunder's rolling down the tracks You don't know where you're goin' But you know you won't be back Darlin' if you're weary Lay your head upon my chest We'll take what we can carry And we'll leave the rest Big Wheels rolling through fields Where sunlight streams Meet me in a land of hope and dreams I will provide for you And I'll stand by your side You'll need a good companion for This part of the ride Leave behind your sorrows Let this day be the last Tomorrow there'll be sunshine And all this darkness past Big wheels roll through fields Where sunlight streams Meet me in a land of hope and dreams This train Carries saints and sinners This train Carries losers and winners This Train Carries whores and gamblers This Train Carries lost souls This Train Dreams will not be thwarted This Train Faith will be rewarded This Train Hear the steel wheels singin' This Train Bells of freedom ringin' This Train Carries broken-hearted This Train Thieves and sweet souls departed This Train Carries fools and kings This Train All aboard This Train Dreams will not be thwarted This Train Faith will be rewarded This Train Hear the steel wheels singin' This Train Bells of freedom ringin' Wishiing u the best my friend hugs, rosalita it's feckin snowing here again ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2002 12:02:11 -0800 From: cul heath Subject: thanx for the best wishes Thanx to the people who sent me warm responses to my last post about being alone on Christmas eve. You are all so kind. To give credit where it is due, I used the term "Pod People" to describe the condition of being slavishly dedicated to an idol or an idea, credit for such a perfect term goes to Colin. He used it in a recent email to me and I found it so ideal that I of course immediately adopted it as my own. Pardon me, Colin for the blatant and uncredit theft. :) I spent the whole night until about 4am composing and playing music with nearly no breaks...it was wonderful and I learned more Mitchell tunes in the process. I plan to spend all of today doing the same...its my little christmas gift to me :) hope you are all having a sweet day...I know I will. cul ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2002 15:28:52 -0500 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: a joni classic Happy holidays Everyone. I wish you all good things. . . I am not caught up with the joni digests so excuse me if this question has been asked before. . . I was listening to James Taylor's "Have yourself a Merry Little Christmas" on the radio yesterday and I wondered, if Joni were to record one classic holiday song, which one might it be? or which one do you think she should do? I am thinking that the lyrics of the song must resonate with her. . . What do you think? Also I wanted to say something to Rudolf and don't know how else to contact him. "Happpiest holidays to you Rudolf. . . . . and I loved you before everyone else did." My best to all you beautiful Joni people. Love Marianne _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2002 16:08:17 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: (Kept On) By Her Own Devices LP In a message dated 12/25/2002 2:49:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, rwynnycky@hotmail.com writes: > Some of the above only came out in '72 on FTR, so I have doubts about them > being performed in Oct. '70. > > How come I can't find a mention of (KO)BHOD anywhere? > > Well, that's a good point, Roman...I guess now that I look at it, this particular boot is a blending of several appearances, much like the "Lights Out In Georgia" bootleg. The setlist would dictate that it is actually several different shows. I've always said that what JM.com lacks is a proper discography, detailing not just Joni's LP/CD releases, but singles and EP's. And like them or not, there should be a spot somewhere with some info on the many Joni bootlegs out there. For all of its faults, the Brian Hinton biography "Both Sides Now" does offer some details about Joni bootlegs, plus it gave some neat covers info. I've got a copy of the Hinton book, I'll see what he says about KOBHOD, even though he's probably wrong. ;~) Bob NP: Some cheesy version of "Away In A Manger"...Mannheim Steamroller or some such ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2002 23:53:04 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: thanx for the best wishes cul heath wrote: > Thanx to the people who sent me warm responses to my last post about > being alone on Christmas eve. > You are all so kind. > > To give credit where it is due, I used the term "Pod People" to > describe the condition of being slavishly dedicated to > an idol or an idea, credit for such a perfect term goes to Colin. He > used it in a recent email to me and I found it so ideal > that I of course immediately adopted it as my own. Pardon me, Colin > for the blatant and uncredit theft. :) Cul-it wasn't me-honest! I did use yes but it wasn't me who used it in the first place. Soemone used it about T'log, or rather about the people discussing it. I can't recall which side it was meant for! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2002 23:58:18 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: An Apology and Goodbye Gary-I am not in your situation but i used to be. i was homeless, family less, penny less. I never thought it would work out. It did. It will for you too as long as you keep aware. love colin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2002 19:31:52 -0500 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: a joni classic Good question ..Marianne! Hmmmmm..either I saw Mommy Kissing Santa Claus or the Hippotamisses song. Just fooling! Maybe.. Blue Christmas or Chestnuts (The Christmas Song) (Geez..I don't know why that would come to me?) I hope you had a lovely holiday too! Love... Bree >Happy holidays Everyone. >I wish you all good things. . . > >I was listening to James Taylor's "Have yourself a Merry Little Christmas" >on the radio yesterday and I wondered, if Joni were to record one classic >holiday song, which one might it be? > >or which one do you think she should do? > >I am thinking that the lyrics of the song must resonate with her. . . > >What do you think? > >Also I wanted to say something to Rudolf and don't know how else to contact >him. "Happpiest holidays to you Rudolf. . . . . and I loved you before >everyone else did." > >My best to all you beautiful Joni people. > >Love Marianne > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online >http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail&xAPID=42&PS=47575&PI=7324&DI=7474&SU= http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsg&HL=1216hotmailtaglines_addphotos_3mf ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2002 21:45:46 -0500 From: "PAUL PETERSON" Subject: Joni on orchestration in 1968 "If I'd recorded a year ago," as Joni tells it "I would have used lots of orchestration. No one would have let me put out an acoustic album. They would have said it's like having a whole paintbox and using only brown. But today is a better time to be recording. It's like in fashion. There's no real style right now. You find who you are and you dress accordingly. In music today I feel that I can put down my songs with an acoustic guitar and forget the violins and not feel that I need them." Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm. 34 years later and she found who she is and dressed accordingly. Lovely ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2002 22:28:02 EST From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: December 26th!!!!!!! He's a gifted singer/songwriter/guitar player who's got the groove. He's got a smile that will melt your heart. Join me in wishing a wonderful birthday to Mr. Gregg Cagno over there in a snow laden Pennsylvania I'm sure. Happy Birthday Gregg!! missing you Rosie ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 02:08:29 -0500 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Library Links: December 26 On December 26 the following item was published: 1996: "Still Blue" - Houston Press (Biography) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=127 - -------- Can you type? http://www.jmdl.com/typing/ ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2002 #406 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)