From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2002 #405 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Wednesday, December 25 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 405 Sign up now for JoniFest 2003! http://www.jonifest.com ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: JMDL Digest V2002 #585 -- more on River [BRYAN8847@aol.com] Fwd: merry everything!!!!! (message from Wally K) for all you AWOL AOLers [Catherine McKay ] the cover of Hejira was shot in Madison [Aerchak@aol.com] Re: Kratzmann, Australia & Exams [Mags N Brei ] Re: the cover of Hejira was shot in Madison [Susan Guzzi ] Elvis Costello on Travelogue [Tara Lindsay ] Re: CAS to Mingus [Bobsart48@aol.com] Today's Library Links: December 25 [ljirvin@jmdl.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 03:08:25 EST From: BRYAN8847@aol.com Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2002 #585 -- more on River The singer is Robert Downing Jr. That would be Downey. I knew he had recorded the song but didn't know that was his vocal. I read somewhere recently that Joni liked his performance of the song. Speaking of Downey/Downing, I always watch one his films around this time of year, '"Home for the Holidays," also starring Holly Hunter and others. A fun film. Bryan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 06:50:45 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Fwd: merry everything!!!!! (message from Wally K) for all you AWOL AOLers --- Wally Kairuz wrote: > From: "Wally Kairuz" > To: > Subject: merry everything!!!!! > Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 02:15:52 -0300 > > no long messages this year -- not much imagination > available. > > just wanted to say > > I L O V E Y O U > > jmdle family!!! > > have a merry and peaceful time! > > i know a million aol-ers won't get this message > (jimmy, bob murphy [so > beloved, so unattainable]). aol-can't read me. > please somebody copy and send > this back to the list at large (yes, joni onlies > too!) so that everyone will > know how much i love and miss you all. > > thinking of my dear friends all over the world, > > wallyK ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 13:01:51 -0000 From: "Paul Castle" Subject: Re: Kratzmann, Australia & Exams John wrote: >The most general comment from adults hearing >about her appearance in the exam was "but the >kids wouldn't know who Joni Mitchell is!" >I think they might have been surprised. Yes, she is taught here in the UK too, John - if one North London school is representative, at least. I recently asked one young teenager whose music he liked best - and was surprised that I shared 'one' of his two favourites! PaulC wishing everyone a happy holiday - NP Hockey by Jane Siberry (the foeckeless version - with dogs a'barking to conceal the expletive) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 08:31:21 EST From: Aerchak@aol.com Subject: the cover of Hejira was shot in Madison A few weeks ago or so someone wrote a post about the view from her office window overlooking the lake in Madison. She also said that she always thought that the cover/liner photos must have been shot there. Well, I always thought so too. Joni had appeared there at UW in February, 1976 and Joel Bernstein was with her. I know because I was in grad school and went to the show. There's more to the story but I won't go on about that now. Anyway, the concert wasn't even listed on the "appearances" section of the official website. I did more research and it was the last concert of that tour, 2/29/76. So last night I'm reading Shadows and Light (the book) which finally arrived after purchasing from ebay and there's this whole thing about how Joel Berstein took those pictures on the lake in Madison. Everybody left and they stayed on in Madison. They were staying at this hotel on the lake. I believe it was called The Edgewater but I haven't been back to Madison in 26 years. So if you were the person that wondered about the cover, that was Joni skating on your lake and if you know the person who wondered please let me know so I can email her w/ my whole great story of that Joni in Madison experience. I wish I had a river (but it ended up being a lake) I could skate away on. Andrea ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 05:50:14 -0800 (PST) From: Mags N Brei Subject: Re: Kratzmann, Australia & Exams birthday boy John Low wrote: >The most general comment from adults hearing >about her appearance in the exam was "but the >kids wouldn't know who Joni Mitchell is!" >I think they might have been surprised. and then Paul wrote: <> and now moi: my daughter had to present a poem at school and she chose Joni Mitchell's work , and the other day on the phone, she even quoted Joni lyrics within the context of a conversation we were having. Miranda loves Woodstock, so I turned around and sent her the CD (Ladies) . :-) Mags. You open my heart, you do. Yes you do. - JM Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 07:02:25 -0800 (PST) From: Susan Guzzi Subject: Re: the cover of Hejira was shot in Madison Hey Andrea good job of researching! That was our friend Mary E Pitassi. I think she is aware that the cover was shot there, but I know she'd love to read that article. She's very busy celebrating Christmas in New Orleans right now, however! Merry Christmas! Peace, Susan - --- Aerchak@aol.com wrote: > A few weeks ago or so someone wrote a post about the view from her office > window overlooking the lake in Madison. She also said that she always thought > that the cover/liner photos must have been shot there. Well, I always thought > so too. Joni had appeared there at UW in February, 1976 and Joel Bernstein > was with her. I know because I was in grad school and went to the show. > There's more to the story but I won't go on about that now. Anyway, the > concert wasn't even listed on the "appearances" section of the official > website. I did more research and it was the last concert of that tour, > 2/29/76. So last night I'm reading Shadows and Light (the book) which finally > arrived after purchasing from ebay and there's this whole thing about how > Joel Berstein took those pictures on the lake in Madison. Everybody left and > they stayed on in Madison. They were staying at this hotel on the lake. I > believe it was called The Edgewater but I haven't been back to Madison in 26 > years. So if you were the person that wondered about the cover, that was Joni > skating on your lake and if you know the person who wondered please let me > know so I can email her w/ my whole great story of that Joni in Madison > experience. > > I wish I had a river (but it ended up being a lake) I could skate away on. > Andrea Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 10:25:32 -0500 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: the cover of Hejira was shot in Madison An interesting sidenote, also gleaned from reading "Shadows & Light", was that Bernstein originally wanted that Hejira photo shoot to have been for Blue, the whole "skating away on a river" thing...but Joni wanted the cover & artwork to be as released. So Joel just waited til the moment was right, got his photos, and used them Hejira. They work just as good imo. Bob NP: Sheryl Crow, "a change would do you good" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 13:05:38 -0500 From: "chuty001" Subject: Canadian punk I posted earlier this week about SNFU doing a song about listening to Mitchell and asked if anybody had heard it. No reply. So if anyone is actually interested in hearing a Canadian punk band acknowledge Joni let me know and I'll see about getting it up to my site. Chuck ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Jan 1980 21:38:53 -0800 From: Tara Lindsay Subject: Elvis Costello on Travelogue Hi and Merry Christmas, I can't add anything to the Travelogue debate till Santa comes with my copy. I heard Just Like This Train and Last Time I Saw Richard on the radio show that Elvis Costello and John Kelly do together here in Dublin,Ireland. Elvis Costello was in a real Joni mood and expressed a lot of love for Travelogue and For The Roses. He also played Lesson In Survival from For The Roses and A Case Of You by Diana Krall. I always try to listen when Costello is on. Such an interesting man. He points out little things in the music that only a musician would notice, Tara. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 18:15:12 EST From: Bobsart48@aol.com Subject: Re: CAS to Mingus Mike P wrote > There are people who like the > CAS to Mingus streak as her finest work. I would put myself in this last > group. I find that interesting in two respects, Mike. First, I went over 20 years (from 1975 - late mid 1990's) having essentially abandoned Joni's work after C&S. I knew she was going places I could not handle at that time (I believe I was not alone among Joni's early fans), and I suspected that it was "all my fault". For all 20 years, she remained my #1 solely on the basis of her first 6 albums. I suspected that she was not as good at what I saw as the "jazzy" stuff as she was at her earlier "folky/classic/pop" blends - how could she be the best at both ? - but I had a lot of admiration for her, so I could not be certain. Anyway, I bought and eventually rejected (i.e., failed to get into) THOSL, Hejira, WTRF and DED. After DED, I stopped listening altogether to the post-C&S stuff for at least 10 years. Then, I picked up TI and NRH, liked them a lot, and proceeded backward in time. Eventually, I fell in love with the whole period you cite (except Mingus - which I now know is still my fault - though I was listening to and loving TWTLIL yesterday). Did you hear those albums first - i.e., before hear earlier work? How did you come to like them - quickly, or after many listens ? How do your tastes in music run, outside of Joni ? My "feel" here is that some people (like you ?) are more intuitive, natural and perhaps more sophisticated listeners and appreciators than others (like myself), who need to work at listening to more complex stuff, until we have absorbed it analytically, which then frees us up to listen to it aesthetically and emotionally. Anyway, I ramble sometimes. Second, I find it interesting that C&S was the first in your "magic" string, and the last in my original magic string. It made both our lists. This reinforces for me that C&S was really her transitional album. Maybe it was all of those non-tonic bass chords (put to more use than in earlier albums). And, IMO, C&S got "jazzier" even within itself - with the earlier cuts more accessible on balance, and the later ones taking more time for me to warm up to. And the band, too, was a change, by and large. Ironically, her transitional album proved to be her most popular - she passed through the plane of mass appeal briefly on her otherwise largely off-plane journey to the top of the mountain. Hmmm. Bob S ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2002 02:02:14 -0500 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Library Links: December 25 On December 25 the following item was published: 1977: "Bleak Visions of Life in the Fast Lane" - Los Angeles Times (Review - Album) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=156 - -------- Can you type? http://www.jmdl.com/typing/ ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2002 #405 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)