From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2002 #404 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Tuesday, December 24 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 404 Sign up now for JoniFest 2003! http://www.jonifest.com ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re:Singing from within [Chorando6@aol.com] Islam versus the West ["mike pritchard" ] Re: Islam versus the West [sl.m@shaw.ca] sarah1 ["mike pritchard" ] Happy Holidays [Steve Polifka ] Re: Islam versus the West [AzeemAK@aol.com] Re: Court and Spark Question [Scott Price ] river ["mia ortlieb" ] Re: JMDL Digest V2002 #584 -- River in TV commercial [BRYAN8847@aol.com] Photo of Joni, Henry Lewy and Joan Armatrading [BRYAN8847@aol.com] Re: Today in History: December 23 [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: river [FMYFL@aol.com] Re: river [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Sire of Sorrow [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Corry Hanna Remote Radio Report [Michael Paz ] Kratzmann, Australia & Exams [John Low ] Re: Today in History: December 23 ["Bree Mcdonough" ] merry everything!!!!! ["Wally Kairuz" ] Today in History: December 24 [ljirvin@jmdl.com] Today's Library Links: December 24 [ljirvin@jmdl.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 05:14:13 EST From: Chorando6@aol.com Subject: Re:Singing from within Just my tuppence worth here. Celine fails to sing from within when singing in English. There is too too much production going on and her voice is flattened, put simply the English output is formulaic. In French however it is another experience entirely. French speaking Canada has produced many many great singers and interpreters of song. Also When seeing Celine live, and i don't mind admitting I've seen her four times! She certainly has soul. In particular when she gets those pipes round Jaques brel, Plamondon and Jean Jaques goldman, she positively shimmers and those goose bumps respond like its party time. I don't feel my opinions are biased because, though i possess all of her output thus far in my Cd collection, I rarely listen to the english stuff. Even with a song like Vole (fly) which she sang in both english and french you can hear the difference, fly is not felt...Vole is and the arrangements are exactly the same. Finally when she sang Calling you from baghdad Cafe it was astounding, the pleading in her voice was heart breaking and I don't mind admitting I shed a tear, well more than that i fell apart, ripped of my clothes, lit my lighter, and ran up to the stage naked shouting Celine I love you. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 12:15:49 +0100 From: "mike pritchard" Subject: Islam versus the West Sarah said >>My own opinion, Colin, is that we're already in deep shit and that the war (Islam versus the West) began in the 80s with the first suicide attacks in Lebanon, and the rise of the Moslem Brotherhood, and it has just taken a while to make itself felt around the world.<< Whoa, hold on just a moment, here. Since when did this war become 'Islam versus the West'? Could this war not equally be called 'The West versus Islam'? As a journalist you should be aware of the newspeak elements inherent in this field, especially on the Israel-Palestine situation, but also on anything related to Iraq. Question: What made these people in Lebanon decide to launch suicide attacks? Whim? Folly? High spirits? Or perhaps a reaction to earlier events? Maybe we should look at these events before making such a statement. Perhaps a good place to look for anti-Islam acts is the career of Ariel Sharon, a veteran of over 50 years of atrocities against the Palestine people. Yes, The same Ariel Sharon who George Bush calls 'a man of peace'. Check the records, it's all there. As a journalist you must know this. Sarah also said >>I think the military plan is to destroy infrastructure, not people, and to invade Baghdad within days (within 2 days, they're saying) of the war beginning.<< What the plan is (as presented to the public) and what the plan really is (as prepared by the govt and the military) and how the plan works out in reality are three different things. Look at Afghanistan for a recent example. >> And then I think the assumption and hope is that the Iraqi people will joyfully surrender, and Saddam and his clansmen will flee the country, probably to Libya. << If this 'assumption' really works out like this "I'll show my arse in Burton's window", as we say in my home town; Burton being a high street clothing company for all you non-brits. >>But in fact, I have to say I think his (Bush) responses have been measured and justified, apart from the loss of civil liberties in the U.S. << Loss of liberty in the US, no big deal then. Kate said >>if we attacked Iraq it would be the first time the USA has ever attacked another country, unprovoked...<< Kate, I wish this were true but history shows that it is not. mike in barcelona ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 10:18:43 -0700 From: sl.m@shaw.ca Subject: Re: Islam versus the West Mike, whether I say 'Britain versus Germany', or 'Germany versus Britain' makes no difference regarding whether I believe Hitler or Churchill was responsible for the war. Yes, I take your point about Ariel Sharon. No, I didn't say the loss of civil liberties in America was no big deal. I think it's a very big deal, which is why I referred to it. Equally, I think the absence of civil liberaties in Iraq is a very big deal. To say "Islam versus the West" is not racist, as Colin said. Islam is not a race. If I oppose aspects of Judaism, that doesn't make me an anti-Semite. If I deplore Christianity, I'm not anti-white or anti-West. Pulling out the race card doesn't advance the discussion. This is a conflict between the modern world and the ancient world, between religious intolerance (whether represented by Islam or any other religion) and. . . whatever you want to call the West.....a progressive liberating ideology, in my view, an ideology that questions itself and is self-examining. I can't respect an ideology that suppresses women, where there are no gay rights, no rights for the mentally ill or the physically disabled, where menstruating women are regarded as filthy and irrational, where women can only report a rape if there are two male witnesses, where we can be beheaded for not covering our faces or stoned if our husbands think we committed adultery. Why would anyone in the West, where we place a high vaue on individual human rights, pay lip service to this bullshit? Granted, there are individual Moslems who don't believe these things should happen, just as there are individual Christians who don't believe in the Virgin Birth. But Islam as practised by the overwhelming majority of countries in which it's the ruling ideology does not respect human rights at all. And it's important to remember that Islam is not the Arabs. I hope one day that the Arabs will rise up against this or any other religion, and then they'll have a chance of becoming a great people. Sarah At 12:15 PM +0100 12/23/2002, mike pritchard wrote: >Whoa, hold on just a moment, here. Since when did this war become >'Islam versus the West'? Could this war not equally be called 'The >West versus Islam'? As a journalist you should be aware of the >newspeak elements inherent in this field, especially on the >Israel-Palestine situation, but also on anything related to Iraq. >Question: What made these people in Lebanon decide to launch suicide >attacks? Whim? Folly? High spirits? Or perhaps a reaction to earlier >events? Maybe we should look at these events before making such a >statement. Perhaps a good place to look for anti-Islam acts is the >career of Ariel Sharon, a veteran of over 50 years of atrocities >against the Palestine people. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 17:53:57 +0100 From: "mike pritchard" Subject: sarah1 Sarah wrote: >>Mike, whether I say 'Britain versus Germany', or 'Germany versus Britain' makes no difference regarding whether I believe Hitler or Churchill was responsible for the war.<< I see our point, but take issue with the reciprocity that you imply. Normally the entity in the subject position of such a sentence is the 'agent' of the action in the verb and the entity in the object position is the 'recipient' of the action. Perhaps you intended 'versus' to express two sides equally dedicated to the destruction of the other, in which case you could have chosen to place Islam in the recipient position, but you didn't. I find that significant, especially in the light of your other remarks. >>Yes, I take your point about Ariel Sharon.<< Good, but can you explain (you are under no obligation to, of course) how Bush can regard this man as a 'man of peace' when it is patently obvious that he is a monster and a war criminal of long standing. Should the west be lining up to support his terrorist campaigns against the Palestine people and their terrorist actions? >>No, I didn't say the loss of civil liberties in America was no big deal. I think it's a very big deal, which is why I referred to it.<< OK, but you referred to it as almost an afterthought, or at least it sounded to me like a small price to pay for Bush's 'measured and justified' responses, >>Equally, I think the absence of civil liberties in Iraq is a very big deal.<< Me too. >>To say "Islam versus the West" is not racist, as Colin said. Islam is not a race. If I oppose aspects of Judaism, that doesn't make me an anti-Semite. If I deplore Christianity, I'm not anti-white or anti-West. Pulling out the race card doesn't advance the discussion.<< Agreed, and these are points to take up with Colin. I did not mention any of this stuff. >>I can't respect an ideology that suppresses women, where there are no gay rights, no rights for the mentally ill or the physically disabled, where menstruating women are regarded as filthy and irrational, where women can only report a rape if there are two male witnesses, where we can be beheaded for not covering our faces or stoned if our husbands think we committed adultery.<< Neither can I, but these remarks could refer to many other ideological groups. And it does not give the strong (The USA) the right to destroy the weak when they bite the hand that fed it the weapons that allowed it to terrorise its own people in the first place. And why is the west not dedicating itself to bringing down these repressive regimes where they exist, namely Saudi Arabia, to name just one country which carries out public executions and shares a lot of the beliefs you mention in this paragraph? >>Granted, there are individual Moslems who don't believe these things should happen, just as there are individual Christians who don't believe in the Virgin Birth. But Islam as practised by the overwhelming majority of countries in which it's the ruling ideology does not respect human rights at all.<< An absolutely astonishing remark; as condescending as anything I've ever read anywhere, on any topic. >>And it's important to remember that Islam is not the Arabs. I hope one day that the Arabs will rise up against this or any other religion, and then they'll have a chance of becoming a great people.<< The Arabs have been a great people for thousands of years. Without them there would be very little civilised in the modern world. They could be a great people again if they were not spending all their time being starved, bombed, denied their human rights, robbed of their land and being attacked by other 'great' religious orders. mike in barcelona ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 12:13:48 -0600 From: Steve Polifka Subject: Happy Holidays Everyone: I have enjoyed your many posts as of late; the diversity of this group is so wonderful! I wish you all the best, and will see you in the New Year! (Great vacation with my new love, so I must sign off...) Hugs to you all, Steve Steve ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 13:20:29 EST From: AzeemAK@aol.com Subject: Re: Islam versus the West In a message dated 23/12/2002 16:16:25 GMT Standard Time, sl.m@shaw.ca writes: << But Islam as practised by the overwhelming majority of countries in which it's the ruling ideology does not respect human rights at all. >> This is offensively ignorant. Have you ever spent time or lived in a Muslim country? I have, and I can assure you that you are way off track. I've had many debates with my family in Pakistan around this subject, and the picture is much more complex than you seem to be seeing it. I am not a Muslim, and disagree violently with what is happening in some predominantly Muslim countries. I also disagree with what happens and has happened in some predominantly Christian countries. If, say, an English tourist gets lost travelling through Pakistan and knocks on someone's door, they will be taken in and given shelter and food, even if the household can barely afford to feed itself. Imagine a Pakistani man knocking on a door in a village in England, unable to speak a word of English. Maybe he will be shown that level of hospitality; more likely he will be told to "get the hell off my property". Maybe the police will be called to report a suspicious looking stranger. We may like to think we're more civilised than "them", but it's not so simple. Australia and the USA have participated in the genocides of their native peoples; in the case of the former this was happening within recent living memory. Britain has colonised large swathes of the world, subjugated local people, stolen their land and their resources and swiped many cultural treasures. Again, this is recent history, I have plenty of relatives who were directly affected by the complete fiasco over the partition of India and Pakistan in 1947, which resulted in huge internecine strife and tens of thousands of deaths. The thing that appals me about the West is the assumption that "we" are right and have the right to tell other countries what to do. That satirical piece about sending a UN team into the USA to help establish democracy after a rigged election - it was funny, wasn't it? Only because we know it would never happen, not because there wasn't a case to answer. Azeem in London ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 10:45:24 -0800 From: Scott Price Subject: Re: Court and Spark Question At 12:54 AM 12/23/2002 -0500, Shnootre@aol.com wrote: >I feel certain that I read a quote from Joni where she stated that on the >album Court and Spark, she jammed with the band in the beginning, but >ultimately told everyone exactly what to play and when. I don't remember >where I read this, or what the wording was. A search through Les' archives would reveal the source of this quote but I too remember it much as you describe. Joni was quoted as saying she would sing or hum the riffs as she heard them in her head, then the musicians would play them exactly so. Scott ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 14:07:16 -0600 From: "mia ortlieb" Subject: river There's a TV commercial playing now that features a guy singing Joni's "River". It appears to be an ad paid for by the government in support of our troops. Has anyone seen this or know who is singing this? .....and why would Joni allow her music for propaganda purposes? I suppose it's really not support for war, just support for our friends and family who fight in the wars. Mia _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 3 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail&xAPID=42&PS=47575&PI=7324&DI=7474&SU= http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsg&HL=1216hotmailtaglines_stopmorespam_3mf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 17:54:24 EST From: BRYAN8847@aol.com Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2002 #584 -- River in TV commercial In a message dated 12/23/2002 2:03:42 PM Pacific Standard Time, les@jmdl.com writes: > There's a TV commercial playing now that features a guy singing Joni's > "River". It appears to be an ad paid for by the government in support of > our troops. Has anyone seen this or know who is singing this? .....and why > would Joni allow her music for propaganda purposes? I suppose it's really > not support for war, just support for our friends and family who fight in > the wars. > > Mia > It's not a government commercial, it's presented by Circuit City, the electronics retailer (or perhaps another retailer, but it's definitely a private interest). I don't know who sings it, but I think the redording is two to three years old. The same commercial ran last year during the holidays. So, it's not exactly propaganda -- just a way to send a greeting to military people far away -- I don't see how anyone could object to that. Bryan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 17:57:56 EST From: BRYAN8847@aol.com Subject: Photo of Joni, Henry Lewy and Joan Armatrading Somone at work gave me a little holiday gift - a photo clipped from Billboard magazine years ago. It shows Joni and Henry Lewy meeting with Joan Armatrading backstage at one of Joan's shows, probably in the late 70s. I scanned it, so if any of you Joni archivists or mega-fans want a copy, I'd be happy to send it. Just e-me. Bryan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 19:30:01 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Today in History: December 23 In a message dated 12/23/2002 2:16:37 AM Eastern Standard Time, ljirvin@jmdl.com writes: > 1976: Hejira was certified Gold by the RIAA > To hell with the RIAA! Hejira was solid gold the day it was released! :~) Bob NP: Wally Whyton, "Urge For Going" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 19:31:36 EST From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: river In a message dated 12/23/02 3:10:44 PM Eastern Standard Time, hvnphun16@hotmail.com writes: > There's a TV commercial playing now that features a guy singing Joni's > "River". It appears to be an ad paid for by the government in support of > our troops. Has anyone seen this or know who is singing this? Hi Mia, Yes, as Bryan mentioned, this is a Circuit City ad that was aired last year too before the holidays. It was an ad called "Message from America" for people to send holiday greetings to soldiers on active duty. The singer is Robert Downing Jr. Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 19:40:10 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: river In a message dated 12/23/2002 7:32:44 PM Eastern Standard Time, FMYFL@aol.com writes: > The singer is > Robert Downing Jr. > It's actually Robert Downey Jr, but Jimmy was darn close! ;~) The track is available on the Ally McBeal "A Very Ally Christmas" CD. About half of it is good. Downey's recording is tremendous. Bob NP: Will Taylor, "Black Crow" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 19:43:03 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Sire of Sorrow In a message dated 12/22/2002 8:47:20 PM Eastern Standard Time, culheath@telus.net writes: > I just empathized the emotions and it carried me along. What a treat! > Anyone else ever have Joni's music possess them like that. Just curious. > What a cool thing, Cul! I don't play anything, so it would truly be a "virgin-birth" type of miracle for me to sit at the keyboard and have anything come out. BUT I have had a Joni song just come over me at times and I have to sing it from start to finish. Sometimes I pick up on something about the song I'd not thought of before. Bob NP: Mark Murphy, "Barangrill" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 18:47:31 -0800 From: Michael Paz Subject: Corry Hanna Remote Radio Report It was so cool to tune into the radio on the internet and hear Randy Remote talking about his new record and hearing some great tunes (except that it was not really Randy it was his alter ego Corry Hanna). I was blown away by the sound of the record. It took me back to the Quicksilver Messenger Service days. I can't wait to order this CD. I was not able to listen 100% of the time cause I was taking calls and trying to pretend to work. I did manage to get thru on the phone to wish Randy I mean Corry congratulations. Best of luck With the project! Best Paz ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 19:46:06 EST From: Aerchak@aol.com Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2002 #584/in response to Mia's question about River The TV commercial you asked about is Robert Downey Jr.'s version of "River'" which Joni said she loved in the recent "W" magazine article. Andrea ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 20:15:32 EST From: Kardinel@aol.com Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2002 #584 Sarah, your e mails are very annoying, I feel like you are preaching to people. Maureen ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 01:19:02 +0000 From: Chris Marshall Subject: Re: Photo of Joni, Henry Lewy and Joan Armatrading On Monday, Dec 23, 2002, at 22:57 Europe/London, BRYAN8847@aol.com wrote: > Somone at work gave me a little holiday gift - a photo clipped from > Billboard magazine years ago. It shows Joni and Henry Lewy meeting > with > Joan Armatrading backstage at one of Joan's shows, probably in the > late 70s. Actually, sorry for not asking this before, but it would be useful if you could send me a copy after all - I have a printer, Steve doesn't. Thanks, and merry Christmas (*) - --Chris Marshall chris@hatstand.org (* If appropriate :-) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 20:21:16 EST From: Kardinel@aol.com Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2002 #584 Isn't it Bruce Springsteen? Maureen ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 01:26:59 +0000 From: Chris Marshall Subject: Apologies: Re: Photo of Joni, Henry Lewy and Joan Armatrading Apologies, especially to NJC folk, but that last message was meant to go to Bryan direct. Currently just getting used to a Mac, and I fumbled, copying the list in too. More haste, less speed, and all that. - --Chris Marshall chris@hatstand.org ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 17:38:08 -0800 (PST) From: Mags N Brei Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2002 #584/in response to Mia's question about River Andrea wrote: <<>> and in my humble opinion...it is one of the best covers of this gorgeous song. i love it so. mags.... You open my heart, you do. Yes you do. - JM Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 12:44:14 +1100 From: "Geronimo" Subject: travelogue LONG(ish) First of all, a happy christmas and new year to all from this down under lurker. Like many I suspect, I have been dropping in and out of the Travelogue commentary. Wow, its really created an impact, hasn't it? Joni being Joni - she must or would be pleased. Well she should be. Since the record (they'll always be records to me) didn't seem to be released in Australia the discussion has all been a bit remote but I must admit that the diversity of opinion was shifting me away from such a major purchase, especially with all the other christmas distractions. But there, yesterday, on my weekly visit to Borders, there it was. Just the one copy staring up at me for the amazing price of $30! Only about $16 US! What was the deal? Were they dumping copies I asked myself. but did it really matter. It was a sign. BUY!!! I did and then rushed across to HMV on the other side of the Pitt St Mall. And there amidst the blitzkreig lights and Norah Jones being played was Travelogue, several copies, for a whopping $45 (the expected price). My bargain was a christmas gift from JM. Ok, so I fiinish the rest of my shopping, rush across Hyde Park to the car. Rip open the packgaging (and by the way, yes the packgaging is just gorgeous. Absolutely no problem that it is the same theme as the previous records. The colour of the cover is perfect), slide in disc one (thank God for the car CD player) and then I was on my way. The streets of Sydney began to glisten. Industrial landscapes began to turn into verdant green forests. A marvellous transformation had begun. While I could hear, and even understand, all the negative comments people had made, they turned to irrelevancies because, here, the divine JM had turned her glorious past into a new and just as glorious, present. Indeed, perhaps a car is the perfect place for such a record. No neighbours and surround sound. It has to be LOUD. You have to pretend to be in the best concert hall, perhaps the Concertgebouw in Amsterdam with its perfect acoustics. The whole thing quickly dragged me into its spell. I was expecting slow, and I guess it is, but then Brian Blade is always there pushing it along so that to my ears, it never becomes lubrigious. And its fun! It sounds like everyone is having a great time creating this most unusual and probably the most successfully orchestrated pop record, at least of the last couple of decades. It feels live. As every new song comes on, I begin to wonder what Joni will do with her voice. She turns the limitations of her range into a hot rod of emotion. Despite the panting, she is not running to catch up because, after all, this is HER music. These are HER songs and that is so clear in every note, every lunge and peak of the orchestra. And the songs are paintings. It seems as if finally JM has really painted herself into the music and the visuals almost take over. We have always known Joni the romantic in terms of her words, but here the romance is in the orchestration. It has to be lush and huge and it is. Yes, there are elements of the arrangements that could be seen as annoying, especially if heard as a series of flippant brush strokes. But that's not how I hear it and Wayne Shorter in particular turns the usual into the particular. Throwing in themes and working them up to just the right depth of colour. Oh its GLORIOUS. And of course some songs seeeeeem to work better than others. But there is so much to choose from, one doesn't quite know what to go back to, where to begin. And this is just my first listen! Yes there is something fine here and I urge those doubters to undoubt yourself. You must have it! Its not the same old songs its the songs of our lives transformed. The originals exist forever. Some (think everything from Hejira) exist in their perfection with Jaco etc. But this, Travelogue, is another story. Not imitation, so to my mind, all the changes, the shifts in rhythm etc are not about diminishing what's gone before, its about finding out what the orchestra can do. Anyway enough you all say. But I had to say it. Even if you buy it and hate it, you have to have it, cause one day, its going to sneak up on you. Prediction! from the first time listener. Will I live to regret my comments? I don't think so. This is the right record for JM to have made now. BSN was/is superb. It grows and grows. Taming the tiger - well it has its moments, but the songwriting pen seemed to be running out of ink for the moment. Travelogue doesn't need new ink. Its about paint, paint and more paint!!!!!Don't be timid, throw yourself into and see what happens. Nicholas Sydney ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 17:54:06 -0800 (PST) From: John Low Subject: Kratzmann, Australia & Exams A rare post from the wombat burrow! Like many others on the JMDL, I really enjoyed reading Warwick McFadyens interview with Arthur Kratzmann. I was always aware that he was an Australian but knew little else about his background and his serendipitous connection with young Joan. As an Australian who often feels somewhat marginalized from everything Joni Mitchell, it was really great to discover more about the significant Australian influence on her creative development. I wish she had spent more time down under. I would have liked to have seen a few rosellas (remember these Catherine!) flying through her lyrics! Anyway, what a great teacher Mr K. must have been and I wonder how many other children benefited from his encouragement. While on the subject of education, some of you might be interested to learn that Joni Mitchell made an appearance in one of the English papers in this years Higher School Certificate, the senior school exam here in New South Wales. The chorus and several verses of Big Yellow Taxi were set as one of several environmentally related texts on which students were required to answer a number of analytical questions. In the second section of the paper they could then choose to write a letter to Joni Mitchell responding to some aspect of the lyrics and describing a related experience in which they had to reflect upon a change that had taken place in a person, place or time. The most general comment from adults hearing about her appearance in the exam was  but the kids wouldnt know who Joni Mitchell is! I think they might have been surprised. Anyway, if youngsters didnt recognize the name, they probably would have recognized the song!! Perhaps Bob M. will have to open an Examination category along with Fiction, Poetry etc. in his Joni in Literature project. :-) Best wishes to all for a happy, peaceful and relaxing Christmas & New Year. John (in Sydney) Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 21:23:44 -0500 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: Today in History: December 23 If there is a God in heaven.. isn't this the truth!! I literally get chills when I think about this masterpiece. I don't know where in this world this life will lead me...but I know Hejira will always be by my side. Thank you Joni!! Feeling very thankful tonight. Safe holiday to everyone...Merry Christmas!!!! (always remember to spike that eggnog. Fear it nog!) Bree > > 1976: Hejira was certified Gold by the RIAA > > >To hell with the RIAA! Hejira was solid gold the day it was released! :~) > >Bob > >NP: Wally Whyton, "Urge For Going" _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 3 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail&xAPID=42&PS=47575&PI=7324&DI=7474&SU= http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsg&HL=1216hotmailtaglines_stopmorespam_3mf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 20:25:36 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: Corry Hanna Remote Radio Report Michael, and everyone who has wished me well- thanks so much for the encouragement. It was so cool to get off the air and recieve a phone call from Mr. Paz all the way from New Orleans. I told the radio audience about my friends from all over the world on the Joni Mitchell Discussion List. Happy Crimble to all RR in N Cali Michael Paz wrote: > It was so cool to tune into the radio on the internet and hear Randy Remote > talking about his new record and hearing some great tunes (except that it > was not really Randy it was his alter ego Corry Hanna). I was blown away by > the sound of the record. It took me back to the Quicksilver Messenger > Service days. I can't wait to order this CD. I was not able to listen 100% > of the time cause I was taking calls and trying to pretend to work. I did > manage to get thru on the phone to wish Randy I mean Corry congratulations. > Best of luck With the project! > > Best > > Paz ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 02:15:52 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: merry everything!!!!! no long messages this year -- not much imagination available. just wanted to say I L O V E Y O U jmdle family!!! have a merry and peaceful time! i know a million aol-ers won't get this message (jimmy, bob murphy [so beloved, so unattainable]). aol-can't read me. please somebody copy and send this back to the list at large (yes, joni onlies too!) so that everyone will know how much i love and miss you all. thinking of my dear friends all over the world, wallyK ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 02:09:17 -0500 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today in History: December 24 1974: Joni joined Linda Ronstadt, Carly Simon and James Taylor singing Christmas carols and "songs of joy and peace" on the streets of Los Angeles. 1996: The New York Post was one of the first to break the story of Joni's search for her daughter, saying "...so far her search is fruitless. 'I've been blocked so far by the people who have the (adoption) papers'" More info: http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=93 - ---- For a comprehensive reference to Joni's appearances, consult Joni Mitchell ~ A Chronology of Appearances: http://www.jonimitchell.com/appearances.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 02:09:17 -0500 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Library Links: December 24 On December 24 the following items were published: 1977: "Joni's Enigmatic Innervisions" - Sounds (Review - Album, with photographs) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=355 1996: "Joni Mitchell Looks for Lost Daughter" - E! Online (Reunion Story) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=93 ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2002 #404 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)