From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2002 #402 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Sunday, December 22 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 402 Sign up now for JoniFest 2003! http://www.jonifest.com ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: How do you plan on living through the end? [Murphycopy@aol.com] Re: Mr Kratzman on Joni [Catherine McKay ] it's not the end [Aerchak@aol.com] * Last Call - Joni Offer 11/30/69 and 5/29/83 ["Music Is Special" ] oh, where is hope? [] Re: Joni if the styles of the 40's and 50's? [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Joni's not quitting [Little Bird ] Re: Joni's not quitting [Catherine McKay ] Sweetest Voice Choice and JM ["Kate Bennett" ] RE: Karen Carpenter ["Wally Kairuz" ] re:travelogue progression/ the crone/happy winter solstice ["Kate Bennett] Critiques and stuff ["jacka1z" ] Mr Kratzman on Joni ["Kate Bennett" ] God must be a boogie man ["Mickey Morose" ] Re: Mr Kratzman on Joni [Mags N Brei ] Borderlines ["J.David Sapp" ] Re: How do you plan on living through the end? [Ricw1217@aol.com] Re: Joni's not quitting [Randy Remote ] Joni's paintings [Little Bird ] Joni's voice and other stuff [colin ] J.David Sapp's Borderlines quote ["PAUL PETERSON" ] Today in History: December 22 [ljirvin@jmdl.com] Today's Library Links: December 22 [ljirvin@jmdl.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 06:12:53 EST From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: How do you plan on living through the end? ET writes: << Joni definitely has the potential to equal or even surpassing Van Gogh & O'Keeffe. >> Um . . . okay. --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 07:53:12 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Mr Kratzman on Joni --- Les Irvin wrote: > Joniphiles - - > Just found an interesting article which interviews > Mr Kratzman about his > school days with Joni: > http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=1038 > Check it out. > Les Les, that is a wonderful article. Mr. K. has led a very interesting life and I'm so glad his path crossed with Joni's. ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 08:08:47 EST From: Aerchak@aol.com Subject: it's not the end Just a few comments. I loved John Irving's post. So eloguent and so right on. What's everyone so worked up about "the end" of joni's career? We're listening to a new album right now. Some of us like it. Some of us don't. Personally I think all of the judgement is arrogant. I am not equipped to judge a genius. I may prefer to listen to some albums more than others, but I refrain from passing judgement. And these neverending, sometimes cruel comments about her voice. And on and on about her voice. Her voice has changed. Her physical appearance has changed. Why don't people start talking about how she looks older too? And you know what, she's a little heavier than she used to be? Why not discuss that? No, that wouldn't be discussed because that would be in poor taste. Because we all know, one ends up aging in appearance. Well, the voice ages too, and surely her smoking has contributed. So I cannot help thinking there is a bit of judgement that it's her fault because she smoked. Nonsmokers think smoking is a character flaw and exsmokers think it's a character flaw too. Mainly it's just a horrible addiction that's more difficult to kick than heroin. The great sadness of it with Joni is that I fear she will die of lung cancer and that will be the end. But her music lives on and even if she never records one other thing we have a plethora of wonderful music to take us to our graves and I am so grateful for that everyday. Why don't we think about everything she has blessed us with instead of wanting more and more? Let the woman paint. Maybe she will start having art shows in the US. If she feels like writing some songs and recording she will. Joni does what she wants. And rightfully so. "It's coming on Christmas They're cutting down trees They're putting up reindeer And singing songs of joy and peace" Andrea ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 07:11:03 -0600 From: "Music Is Special" Subject: * Last Call - Joni Offer 11/30/69 and 5/29/83 If you want copies of the DAT>CDR transfers I did of Joni's Nov 30, 1969 appearance on PBS (audio only) or May 29, 1983 BBC appearance on "My Top 12", please send your trade list and mailing address if interested. These were previously treed on the list via cassette and DAT. cheers and happy holidays, Eric ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 09:00:03 -0500 From: Subject: Re: How do you plan on living through the end? On Fri, 20 Dec 2002 18:00:01 -0600 johnirving wrote: So the thought crossed my mind, > "Is this how the Joni journey ends for you???" > That you've travelled this winding > road and come to a point where you have to get > off the track because her voice > too painful to listen to?" It's not like she's > going to run out to the Winn-Dixie > and pick up a new voice. Time is not on her > side. I could be deeply wrong looking > at Joni as if she's got half a foot in the > grave. But for the most part, I see > her career as at its cusp. What we are left > with now will be 'What is.' > > With what serenity will you embrace the last > bit of a beautiful ride? Where will > you put the now in relation to all that was? > How do you deal with what is? That's > my point. That's my question. > > Face the direction of something you love. John, I guess to me it's not really that big of a deal, joni's voice not being what it used to be. I'm not writing her off but like many people, I'm just not that concerned and feel that she has already contributed so much rich material, if she stopped now I would be happy with what there is. What gets under my skin, is attributing motives to people who aren't listening to much of the current or new Joni, and/or might be more interested if she did things in a different way. The fact that this may be her last album doesn't really make a difference to me and is not going to change whether I enjoy it or not. That may seem callous but I just listen to what I love and am not really worried about it. Because her music will never end...it wll be here long after she is gone...just as Nick Drake's music has finally gotten widespread recognition 25 years later. I don't understand why I have to deal with anything I guess. Perhaps that means I've accepted things the way they are, with her career that is, and moved on. I accept the fact that her voice is not what it was. But just because I find it hard to listen to does not mean I want her to get a prettier voice. I don't want her to do anything. And it takes a whole lot of serenity and grace to get to that point. I'm not "getting of off a track" as I was never on a track to begin with. My Joni journey has not ended though and it never will end. Victor ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 9:13:58 -0500 From: Subject: oh, where is hope? JOHN: Loved your post. You articulated a lot of what I feel about T'LOG, about Joni (ALL of Joni), about life. And yeah, that "Oh, where is hope?" in JOB is amazing, isn't it? I wait for it every time, and it never fails to send a shiver down my spine. The Mitch has given us so much. I hope she has a little more (or, if we're lucky, a lot!) to give. Regards, MICHAEL in Toronto ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 10:26:59 -0500 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni if the styles of the 40's and 50's? In a message dated 12/20/2002 5:36:32 PM Eastern Standard Time, ppeterson4@nyc.rr.com writes: > I > urge you to give the album a few more listens. Have no fear, Paul...I have been listening to these cd's a lot for awhile now and continue to do so. There is lots to enjoy, no doubt about it. And like another writer said, my hope is that Joni has processed this genre now and is ready to change gears. Tell you the truth, I would have no objections to her continuing in this style if she would just write some new stuff. BUT that doesn't mean I don't appreciate T'log. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 08:01:49 -0800 (PST) From: Little Bird Subject: Joni's not quitting 1970, Joni wrote: "I'm gonna make a lot of money, then I'm gonna quit this crazy scene..." Well, more than 30 years later, here we are with a new Joni Mitchell album. In a Canadian television interview that aired in 2000 she said that she was ready to retire from the beginning because she got "waylaid into music," which was deviant from her will, which was to develop her painting skills. She never liked the big stage, never enjoyed fame and never really felt like art could successfully meet commerce without one or the other suffering. She is not going to quit. She may feel like she wants to, but she's been feeling like that since before she was famous. Has it stopped her? Not one bit. She'll be around for years to come, provided she remains in good health. Even if her voice gives out entirely, she has so many options: instrumental work, painting, poetry, fiction, autiobiography. She's the personification of "art" and she will be true to herself no matter what the cost. So, let's all settle down, have some rum and egg-nog and just be glad we share a love of this great woman, despite differing opinions on how best to love her, which aspect of her work one should love the most, what she should do and should not do. We're all Joni fans, right? She is not going anywhere anytime soon, no matter how much or loudly she may lament. So, let's just relax! - -Andrew Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 13:05:26 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Joni's not quitting --- Little Bird wrote: > 1970, Joni wrote: "I'm gonna make a lot of money, > then I'm gonna quit this crazy scene..." Well, more > than 30 years later, here we are with a new Joni > Mitchell album. > > In a Canadian television interview that aired in > 2000 she said that she was ready to retire from the > beginning because she got "waylaid into music," > which was deviant from her will, which was to > develop her painting skills. "Life is what happens when you're busy making other plans." John Lennon. > So, let's all settle down, have some rum and egg-nog > and just be glad we share a love of this great > woman, despite differing opinions on how best to > love her, which aspect of her work one should love > the most, what she should do and should not do. > We're all Joni fans, right? No thanks, but I'll have a beer, thank you very much. ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 10:34:30 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Sweetest Voice Choice and JM hi toni! huge shawn colvin & patty griffin fan here! speaking of patty, here is my review (only 90 words!) of her latest: http://www.independent.com/a&e/criticspiks.html >>I've seen Patty G. and Shawn's mentioned here. They are not Joni and I know they would not claim to be, but I do think their talent is awesome. Just wanted to share. Thanks!<<< Toni ******************************************** Kate Bennett: www.katebennett.com Sponsored by Polysonics/Atlantis Sound Labs Over the Moon- "bringing the melancholy world of twilight to life almost like magic" All Music Guide ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 16:06:24 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: Karen Carpenter clive, i couldn't go out of the house for three days when i heard karen had died. it was all so strange and shocking. my parents were watching the news and just like that the news person said, ''karen carpenter died today of heart failure''. i was just passing by the tv set and thought i had misheard the name. i asked my father a million times what he had heard. he said, ''that girl you like, she's dead''. i waited until 2 am for the morning papers to come out. i still believed it couldn't be true. although my sister was anorexic, i had never heard of karen's illness. karen was my girl. for the last 20 years, richard carpenter has been releasing and cashing in on rare karen material or outtakes: he'd release a cd with 10 old songs and one previously unreleased track (like the ella-karen duet). his vaults are full of stuff that he'll release on this or that anniversary, birthday, etc.. by the dose. he's still pumping money out of karen's talent and memory. what a disgraceful behavior. wallyK - -----Mensaje original----- De: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]En nombre de Chorando6@aol.com Enviado el: Viernes, 20 de Diciembre de 2002 11:20 p.m. Para: joni@smoe.org Asunto: Re: Karen Carpenter My first awareness of death came when my dad bought tickets for us to see the Carpenters at the Palladium Clive xx ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 11:04:55 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: re:travelogue progression/ the crone/happy winter solstice >>her voice. I personally have accepted it with open arms - I love the quality, the feminine darkness of it - it is bravura. very sexy, candle lit.Stephen<< there are 3 stages of the goddess...the maid, the mother, the crone...in speaking of joni & travelogue, i find it important to realize that we are discussing an artist who has entered the third stage of life, that of the crone... "The Crone is the ancient holy one. She is grandmother, witch and hag. She has been ignored, trivialized, blamed and feared, for she holds powers that others deny. Powers of time and transformation. Powers we may fear, but would do better to understand...She is the One Who Knows Death. She will introduce you to your shadow. She can free you from your fears. The Crone is She Who Has Gone Beyond. She has lived many years and many lives. Her feet know the paths of the Ancestors. Through her we can touch those who have gone before. She has lived for love, for power, for grace. Now she lives for herself and her journey. She travels new roads and dares the unknown. She is ancient, but not always aged. She may be beautiful, but she's not pretty. She Who Has Gone Beyond goes beyond our idea of what a deity or a woman may be." http://www.croneways.com/ "The Dark Mother is the most misunderstood of the triple aspects of the Goddess...The greatest fear in Western Society is the fear of death and so many have turned away from this face of our Mother. We see this in our fevered need for eternal "youth and beauty" (as defined by society)... Advanced age should be a time to look forward to in our lives. We should be able to look back and remember all that has happened to us with wisdom and good humor. We should be given the chance to relax and rest and contemplate our lives in preparation of a joyful reunion with the Dark Mother, come to take us into Her starry womb once more. Instead because we don't build a comfortable relationship with the Crone early in our lives, near the end all we feel is frustration and fear. ...First we must realize that Death is not the only domain of the Crone. Endings of all sorts fall under Her sway, and endings always lead to new beginnings...The Dark Mother also covers trance states, spirit communication, and prophecy. http://www.waningmoon.com/guide/library/lib0015.shtml happy winter solstice to all! ******************************************** Kate Bennett: www.katebennett.com Sponsored by Polysonics/Atlantis Sound Labs Over the Moon- "bringing the melancholy world of twilight to life almost like magic" All Music Guide ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 14:22:47 -0500 From: "jacka1z" Subject: Critiques and stuff Well, I've been enjoying the continual pros and cons for Travelogue and Joni's life's works. Very good points by all. The same thing is going on at YesTalk.org. When artists stick around this long and have devoted fans who love to speak their minds, it's wonderful. Sure occasionally people react to their own projections of what the other says, that's because we live in our own dreamtime. Anyway, I'm switching gears because rarely do I get to speak about my favorite Joni moment, and that was the concert for Amnesty International about 12 years ago. It was put on for 3 days by MTV, but the last evening was switched to network primetime. At 7 or 8 whenever it started, Bryan Adams came on and rocked the house, I guess. I really didn't understand why he was there at all, I figured someone paid for that time slot. So he "rocked" then they cut away to commercial. When they came back the crowd was in a pop frenzy, chanting "We're number one, we're number one". Joni comes out and starts a solo slow acoustic version of The Three Great Stimulants. Through at least the first half of the song, people were screaming and just partying, loud and proud. But by the end of the song the majority had finally remembered what the concert for Amnesty International was about, that people were being tortured and dying everyday by brutal tyrants, some of which (not all) were supported by western civilization "Oh these times, oh these brutal times". Then she brought an impromptu four-piece band, Larry Klein, Manu Katche (who plays with Peter Gabriel) and Dolette McDonald (who backed up vocals for Sting) and they played Number One which grooved, further redefining the concert from chanting "We're number one" to "honey, did you win or lose?". Then Larry and Joni finished with Hejira, "Then I looked at myself here, chicken-scratching for my immortality." That's when I became an absolute fanatic of Joni's expression. Jack ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 11:35:28 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Mr Kratzman on Joni what a great article...to read how absolutely critical his influence was on her creativity...thanks les... >>Just found an interesting article which interviews Mr Kratzman about his school days with Joni: http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=1038<< ******************************************** Kate Bennett: www.katebennett.com Sponsored by Polysonics/Atlantis Sound Labs Over the Moon- "bringing the melancholy world of twilight to life almost like magic" All Music Guide ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 20:45:17 +0000 From: "Mickey Morose" Subject: God must be a boogie man I've finally listened to the first tlog cd. Its huge isn't it? There's just so much music here i'm not surprised a lot of people (me included) are taking a long time getting into it. Its much bigger than The White Album or Blonde on Blonde or DJRD or any of the other double albums which - if you're like me - we took a long time "getting" when they first came out. And I think another problem is when listening to it we may have to do some unlearning and relearning cos we all know and love all the songs but done very differently, so can't help having preconceptions and expectations. But - - hey - life's for learning and something's lost but something's gained by living every day. But what I really came on to say was that I enjoyed cd1 on first listen - I'm going to listen again now - but was blown away by GMBABM - this to me is how the song should be done - I enjoyed it a million times more than the Mingus version, and also more than the Shadows and Light performance. By the way, I've listened to Hejira again, and thanks for the correction - it was before the "hope and hopelessness" bit, where she says each so deep and so superficial between the forceps and the stone oh-oh-oh. WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail&xAPID=42&PS=47575&PI=7324&DI=7474&SU= http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsg&HL=1216hotmailtaglines_addphotos_3mf ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 14:57:01 -0800 (PST) From: Mags N Brei Subject: Re: Mr Kratzman on Joni yes, a wonderful article about a wonderful man! Thank you Les for posting this. Kratzman is such a sweetheart, warm and sincere, just as he comes across in the article. At the Hommage in Toronto last year, Joni was so surprised to see him and she was gushing and so excited, almost as though she became that young school girl again. They were both beaming! So sweet to see that connection. Mags. np:Columbus, David Crosby Kate Bennett wrote:what a great article...to read how absolutely critical his influence was on her creativity...thanks les... >>Just found an interesting article which interviews Mr Kratzman about his school days with Joni: http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=1038<< ******************************************** Kate Bennett: www.katebennett.com Sponsored by Polysonics/Atlantis Sound Labs Over the Moon- "bringing the melancholy world of twilight to life almost like magic" All Music Guide ******************************************** You open my heart, you do. Yes you do. - JM Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 18:15:44 -0600 From: "J.David Sapp" Subject: Borderlines The tone of the discussion of late prompts me to post the following - I can't say it any better: Everybody looks so ill at ease So distrustful so displeased Running down the table I see a borderline Like a barbed wire fence Strung tight strung tense Prickling with pretense A borderline Why are you smirking at your friend? Is this to be the night when All well-wishing ends? All credibility revoked? Thin skin thick jokes! Can we blame it on the smoke, This borderline? Every bristling shaft of pride Church or nation Team or tribe Every notion we subscribe to Is just a borderline Good or bad we think we know As if thinking makes things so! All convictions grow along a borderline Smug in your jaded expertise You scathe the wonder world And you praise barbarity In this illusionary place This scared hard-edged rat race All liberty is laced with Borderlines Every income every age Every fashion-plated rage Every measure every gauge Creates a borderline Every stone thrown through glass Every mean-streets-kick ass Every swan caught on the grass Will draw a borderline You snipe so steady You snub so snide So ripe and ready To diminish and deride! You're so quick to condescend My opinionated friend All you deface all you defend Is just a borderline Just a borderline Another borderline Just a borderline peace, david ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 20:36:47 -0500 From: Ricw1217@aol.com Subject: Re: How do you plan on living through the end? joni has the potential of surpassing van gogh and/or o'keefe? oh for chrissakes. this is just embarassing. even joni, in her most egotistical megolamanical moments would probably not say something quite so obtuse. i certainly hope not, anyway. i'm not sure if you are currying favor with the pod people (and anyone who gets insulted by that needs to thicken up the old epidermis) or you are just being silly. whatever the motivation, (even, as frightening as it maybe, if this is something you sincerely believe) all you are REALLY doing is revealing how little you know and understand about art. (you realize of course, i am only sacrificing myself for YOU, by presenting a bigger, more tantalizing target for the flamers.) enter the multitudes... ric ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 17:44:49 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: Joni's not quitting Little Bird wrote: > n a Canadian television interview that aired in 2000 she said that she was ready to retire from the beginning because she got "waylaid into music," which was deviant from her will, which was to develop her painting skills. She never liked the big stage, never enjoyed fame and never really felt like art could successfully meet commerce without one or the other suffering. I had the occasion a couple years ago to visit a gallery showing of John Lennon's art. It was enjoyable, but the feeling I had afterward was, yes, he was artistic, but suppose he had never made music. Would his art have moved millions of hearts? (I am a huge Lennon fan BTW). I guess I feel the same about Joni's art. I know she is driven from a deep place to create and paint. But will her art ever be a rosetta stone that all other painters will gush about and say that it influenced them? In the case of both of them, their music was so undeniably head and shoulders above their contemporaries. As far as their art, it is nice enough, but there are probably thousands of artists who are as good or better, and were it not for their celebrity, we probably would have never been aware of their work. So thank goodness Joni was "waylaid" by her music carreer. It's strange that she is almost complaining about having been a trailblazing composer. I guess what I'm trying to say, to sum up, is that as a musician and songwriter, Joni is in the top 1%. Had she poured all her talent into painting, I doubt we would be signed onto a discussion list for it..... RR ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 18:37:07 -0800 (PST) From: Little Bird Subject: Joni's paintings I absolutely agree with Randy's assessment of Joni's art. It's good, it's pretty, it's nice, and certainly isn't anything to sneeze at. As for making statements as profound and meaningful as her songwriting, there is no question that it's just not as poignant, and will not be remembered as being on the same level as her musical contributions. Similarly, it's not even close to the level of excellence that the masters demonstrated. And there are painters who are not at all famous who paint better than Joni. I think Joni understands this. She said once that she usually paints as a form of meditation and that she usually does art that will look good in her living room. A writer for the Ottawa Citizen wrote exactly the same sentiment as Randy's - that the exhibit at the Mendel would never have existed if Joni wasn't a world-famous personality. Having said that, I love her artwork. As I say, it's very beautiful ("40 below 0," "Hyde Park" and "Valentino" being my favourites) it just won't likely be remembered as Joni's primary contribution to the world. But it sure is a wonderful bonus feature! - -Andrew Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 02:48:27 +0000 From: colin Subject: Joni's voice and other stuff we have been up to Wallasey today(Liverpool is just over the river-thru the Mersey Tunnel). Got to speak to a voice coach and an opera singer. both of whom are really up on music and modern singers too. One thing i asked was about celine dion, having read so much vitriol about her here and not understanding it. According to these two, the reaosn THEYY don't like her is that she 'performs' and isn't a singer. To put it simply, she has no soul. She couldn't do what she does without being taught every step. They mentioned Joni, Carole King, Carly Siimon, Barbar Striesand as being people who sang from within. HOWEVER, both felt Joni was not a singer but a performer. Hang on I said, you juts said the reaosn you think Celine is bad is because she is a performer not a singer! No, I had misundertood. Joni performs from her soul but does not have a singers voice. So that is what they said. They also said that was a great artist in her writing and music ability, truly innovative. They also said that the deterioration in her voice is down to age and that she deosn't have a singers voice to begin with. They said that smoking has very little to do with it and that many great singers smoke/smoked and still had wonderful voices even after years of smoking and age. Oh and obviously they do not desrivbe her early voice as soprano. Now i just pass the above on. None of it is what is say(cos i don't udnerstand half of it). i found it interesting. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 01:20:07 -0500 From: "PAUL PETERSON" Subject: J.David Sapp's Borderlines quote Brilliant! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 02:21:26 -0500 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today in History: December 22 1972: For The Roses was certified gold by the RIAA - ---- For a comprehensive reference to Joni's appearances, consult Joni Mitchell ~ A Chronology of Appearances: http://www.jonimitchell.com/appearances.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 02:21:26 -0500 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Library Links: December 22 On December 22 the following items were published: 1973: "Joni - A Leader Once Again" - Sounds (Review - Album, with photographs) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=347 1980: "Newsmakers" - Newsweek (News Item, with photographs) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=206 ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2002 #402 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? 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