From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2002 #397 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Wednesday, December 18 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 397 Sign up now for JoniFest 2003! http://www.jonifest.com ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Travelogue on the Shelf [Eric Taylor ] Holiday Mail and Cheesecake [r walker ] Re: shadesofscarlett [Eric Taylor ] Re: JMDL Digest V2002 #572/Joni's Christmas album [Aerchak@aol.com] Re: shadesofscarlett [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: For Free [Bobsart48@aol.com] Re: For Free [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] JM (sample) on hip-hop compilation ? ["Moni Kellermann" ] paprika plains [marian ] Re: JMDL Digest V2002 #572/Joni's Christmas album [Steve Polifka ] Re: JM (sample) on hip-hop compilation ? ["Christopher Treacy" ] Re: Don't let her swan song herslef! [Catherine McKay ] Joni FTR song book JC ["William Chavez" ] Re: Joni's voice [Eric Taylor ] Re: Joni's voice [Little Bird ] Judy Collins/Laura Nyro ["William Chavez" ] Today in History: December 18 [ljirvin@jmdl.com] Today's Library Links: December 18 [ljirvin@jmdl.com] Joni review-Bravo!! JC ["William Chavez" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 03:13:42 -0500 From: Eric Taylor Subject: Re: Travelogue on the Shelf Laurent wrote: << As some JMDLers have pointed out, there are at least 2 redeeming qualities to T: 1. Joni's strange tunings played by an orchestra. Focusing on this kept me from falling asleep. 2. T is made for those who never heard Joni. Great, this way we'll come across as more "mainstream" and less "weird" when playing T as background music to non-admirers of the QUOMB. >> My #1. Joni's strange tunings have always kept me wide awake, no matter how increasingly subtile they get over the years. mY #2. i've always been dumbfounded that so many people don't appreciate the total genius of Ms Mitchell. If T'log is what it takes to turn on baby boomers to the greatest artist since Van Gogh, Walt Whitman & the Beatles combined, then so be it! It too often takes centuries for humanity to grasp pure genius. I am so happy to see our QUOMB finally begin to get the recognition that she is long overdue in receiving on all levels. Do you naysayers have any idea how petty & pop your complaints sound in the context of history??? Beam me up Scotty! TPS..... ET NP: 4 the Roses (finally we hear it 4 the first time) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 03:46:40 -0500 From: r walker Subject: Holiday Mail and Cheesecake Ev'ry year along about this time I get the urge to invite Joni to notify me when I have received new mail. Here's the site: http://www.florida-condo.com/xmas/river_mail.htm Happy Holidays! roger ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 04:29:20 -0500 From: Eric Taylor Subject: Re: shadesofscarlett Someone wrote: << I am scared of Bjork's remake of The Boho Dance and will do everything in my power to never ever listen to it >> But don't you see? This is the very reason more people don't listen to Joni. Why do most people resist such innovation so much? I for one adore Bjork and actually most look forward to her interpretation of the Boho! I consider Bjork to be the only pop artist in the past 20 years to even begin to approach Joni's genius. Will we ever see a Joni tribute album? Is the reason it hasn't yet been released is because so many *famous* bands are pissed that they aren't included on it? I prefer to believe that Joni composed Travelogue to demonstrate how she can still interpret her classics better than any top pop star out there. & I couldn't agree more! ET ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 06:32:54 EST From: Aerchak@aol.com Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2002 #572/Joni's Christmas album Are you kidding about "That Bitch Carly Simon Stole My Man" as a cut on the Christmas album? Andrea ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 07:10:22 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: shadesofscarlett In a message dated 12/17/2002 4:28:11 AM Eastern Standard Time, ewwt@juno.com writes: > Why do most people resist such innovation so much? It's not innovation that I resist; it's artists that I can't stand - such as Bjork. But I have no problem with your admiration of her and wouldn't think to pass judgement on you because you do. Any Joni fan is also going to be supportive of innovation as Joni has been at the forefront of musical innovation for over 30 years. > Will we ever see a Joni tribute album? Well daggummit, we have seen THREE this year alone - Steve Klink's "Places To Come From, Places To Go", Big Yellow Taxi, and the SUPERB Rachel Z Trio's "Moon At The Window". Add to that the duo from David Lahm, the "Back To The Garden" Canadian Tribute, the Swedish "A Bird That Whistles" project, the FLAWLESS Lydia van Dam "Both Sides Now", the very flawed "Came Upon A Child of God" from the UK, and that doesn't even count the 11 covers CD's I assembled this year...am I leaving any out? I don't understand why people consider this one release to be THE tribute. Of course I am as anxious as anyone to hear it! > Is the reason it hasn't yet been released is because so many > *famous* bands are pissed that they aren't included on it? My guess is that Joni doesn't want it out there, for whatever reason...maybe her insecurity that someone would go to the record store and buy a copy in lieu of buying one of her cd's and she might be out a dime or two. Bob NP: Linkin Park, "Step Up" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 08:14:56 EST From: Bobsart48@aol.com Subject: Re: For Free > David Sapp wrote: > > > The best For Free to me is the live version she performed with the > beautifully > evocative extra chorus. She adds this at the end of the normal verses: > Playing like a fallen angel > Playing like a rising star > Playing for a hatful of nothing > To the honking of the cars. > It changes the whole song for me in good ways - can't really explain it but > it > is breathtaking. It would be great if she would record a clean version. > I believe she did this on the '83 Refuge tour. > > I agree totally. Also, there is that interesting lyrical progression of who escorted her to the hall (starting early on with 'two white men', then 'two gentlemen', then ' 16 gentlemen' (I probably have the number wrong there - MOA ?) and on the above version 'an entourage". Also, in the Refuge version, at the end of "And I'll play if you have the money, or if you're a friend to me' she adds "(then you'll get a backstage pass, and you'll get in free)' or some such. All just right. Bob S ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 08:22:16 -0500 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: For Free In a message dated 12/17/2002 8:14:56 AM Eastern Standard Time, Bobsart48 writes: > Also, in the Refuge version, > at the end of "And I'll play if you have the money, or if you're a friend to > me' she adds "(then you'll get a backstage pass, and you'll > get in free)' or > some such. Also in the live '83 versions (which I agree are definitive) she changes the lyric to "they knew that he'd never been on MTV, so they passed his good music by..." Like you say Bob, this one appears to be a touchstone that she's been able to relate to for a long time. Probably would have been a nice addition to T'log...the orchestra fades out to reveal a lone clarinetist...or in this case Wayne on the soprano sax, playing a real solo instead of a momentary trill. Bob NP: Elvis C, "Clown Strike" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 14:44:41 +0100 From: "Moni Kellermann" Subject: JM (sample) on hip-hop compilation ? Does anyone here have any background information on this? Avatar Records will release N.V.A. (National Vinyl Association) - Straight From The Crates, Vol. 1, on January 28. The compilation is geared towards the hardcore hip-hop fan and DJ since the first three singles from the project--"Hard Times" by Pharcyde featuring Jurassic 5, "Workin It Out" by Mos Def, and "The Way" by Blackmoon--will only be available on vinyl. The tracklisting for N.V.A. - Straight From The Crates, Vol. 1 includes: "Speakin' The Truth" by Akaa and DJ Babu of Dilated Peoples; "Workin' It Out" by Mos Def; "The Way" by Blackmoon; "Do You Know" by Saigon; "Classical Hit" by Phil Da Agony featuring Planet Asia; "Whirlwind" by Joey Zozza featuring Proof and Kon Artis of D12; "Girl In The Picture" by Jon Notty featuring Joni Mitchell; "Hard Times" by Pharcyde featuring Charli 2na and Akil of Jurassic 5; "Verbal Murder" by Ras Kass; "The Nexus" by Grouch featuring Mystic; and "Ya Get, Ya Get" by Korsican Brothers. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 08:53:22 -0500 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: JM (sample) on hip-hop compilation ? In a message dated 12/17/2002 8:44:41 AM Eastern Standard Time, kellerfrau@gmx.de writes: > "Girl In The Picture" by Jon Notty featuring Joni > Mitchell Sounds pretty cool, Moni - first I've heard of it! But after the success of Janet Jackson's Joni-sampled hit, I'm not surprised. Please advise when you know more...maybe I can see if it's on Kazaa. Bob NP: Jim Wilkins, "Blue Christmas" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 08:57:31 -0500 From: Yael Harlap Subject: buckeyes >SOOOOO... I hope many of you will give it a shot..this Wednesday...9PM >sharp! > >Love to all.. > >Bree bree, will you also send it to the northeastjonifest@yahoogroups.com list? either that or make it a 24-hour thing...? some of us are on digest mode and won't even receive the email in time to respond to it by the same night. peace, yael ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 06:19:12 -0800 (PST) From: marian Subject: paprika plains I have to agree....you just can't skip over Paprika Plains...the music and imagery are beautiful!!! Take a few minutes and listen. Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 09:00:31 -0600 From: Steve Polifka Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2002 #572/Joni's Christmas album The original title was: Last Time I Saw Carly was with James in '72..." At 06:32 AM 12/17/02 EST, you wrote: >Are you kidding about "That Bitch Carly Simon Stole My Man" as a cut on the >Christmas album? > >Andrea > > Steve ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 10:58:09 EST From: Kardinel@aol.com Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2002 #572 Ashara, very sorry about your loss. Maureen ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 08:00:52 -0800 (PST) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: Don't let her swan song herslef! So what's next? A Big Big silence? Is joni out of the circle game for good? Can she forget about us? Don't we mean anything to her? Doesn't she know we need our joni news, every now and then? Is it something to do with her illness and her not playing instruments anymore? How can she just throw everything away? I don't understand joni. It all seemes like revenege for the industry. And how can anyone make her have seconed thoughts? I'd write her, believe me i would, if only i could. I'd tell her that she's still alive and capable of gathering herslef to writing lyrics, even about nature for goodness sakes, and find some strange chords to sing to. It's a must for us to let her know that we won't find a long silence acceptable. Don't you think? love, nuriel _____________________________________________________________ Free email, web pages, news, entertainment, weather and MORE! Check out -------------------------------> http://wowmail.com _____________________________________________________________ Select your own custom email address for FREE! Get you@yourchoice.com w/No Ads, 6MB, POP & more! http://www.everyone.net/selectmail?campaign=tag ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 13:17:29 -0500 From: "Christopher Treacy" Subject: Re: JM (sample) on hip-hop compilation ? I already checked a bunch of filesharing networks...the only 'Girl In The Picture' I can come up with is by 'Mario'. I'll keep trying. - -Chris - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ""Moni Kellermann"" ; Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 8:53 AM Subject: Re: JM (sample) on hip-hop compilation ? > In a message dated 12/17/2002 8:44:41 AM Eastern Standard Time, kellerfrau@gmx.de writes: > > > "Girl In The Picture" by Jon Notty featuring Joni > > Mitchell > > Sounds pretty cool, Moni - first I've heard of it! But after the success of Janet Jackson's Joni-sampled hit, I'm not surprised. Please advise when you know more...maybe I can see if it's on Kazaa. > > Bob > > NP: Jim Wilkins, "Blue Christmas" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 19:26:35 -0000 From: "Stephen Toogood" Subject: Re: I can be as gullible as Forest Gump at times so you really had me going! Suspicious by the duet with Cher, Carly song made me click and 'Marcie's Revenge' had me cracking up with laughter. What are you like. LOL. STEVE T > guess what!!! > joni definately is planning a christmas album for next year. > in fact she's already recorded it!!!! > i know someone who works at nonesuch > and he sent me a pre release of most of the songs > > she recorded most of them when she did "travelog" > and others he recorded in her home studio > here's the line up > > 1. river --(no suprise here except she adds a verse > or two from "rockin around the christmas tree") > 2. away in the manger--(modled after the mahalia jackson version with percy faith strings. in fact the strings outstring percy!) > 3. santa must be a boogie man (such a clever reworking) > 4. the christmas song --(a duet with cher-this one brought tears to my eyes) > 5. barangril-- (with a spooky sample of nat king cole coming and going all thru the song) > 6. rudolph the red nosed reindeer--(a fine version altho somewhat marred by joni saying "nice rudy rudy" oh well) > 7. all i want {for christmas is my 2 front teeth}-- (just darling with joni singing the entire thing in a baby like voice. sigh...) > 8. adeste fidelis-- (another duet-this time with bing crosby-although sometimes its hard to tell who is singing) > 9. carole's lawn is sparklin again --(a beautiful sequal to "chinese cafe" > 10. that bitch carly simon stole my man--(an original, tho it seems somewhat out of place here on a holiday album-nice glokinspeil accompaniment though, does add a festive touch.) > 11. the 12 days of christmas -- (i won't spoil the surprise about the wonderful gifts joni recieves from her true love---altho day 6 she does get "6 cans of moosehead beer"--ah those canadians--they love their beer) > 12. suzy snowflke--(a rather stark reading of the old chestnut, ala "fiddle and the drum") > 13. i've got my love to keep me warm--(very jazzy--very nice--altho joni questionably uses some mingus dialog outakes, mostly along the lines of "pass the applesauce" and "are you sure you wanna do this?" and the like) > 14. marcies revenge--(sigh--just brilliant) > 15. the holly and the ivy--(sung with a very heavy swedish accent) > 16. we three kings- joni did a watercolor sketch for this one in the liner notes--hilariously she used crosby still and nash as the models---the rendering is amazing--every little wrinkle--ahh that joni-ya gotta love her) > > thats it > 16 holiday gems > just wait till you hear this one > the threads on this list will never stop! > > happy holidays! > > walt > The most personalized portal on the Web! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 18:15:21 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Don't let her swan song herslef! --- Nuriel Tobias wrote: > So what's next? A Big Big silence? It's a must for us to let her know that we won't > find a long silence acceptable. Don't you think? > I don't think Joni will find it acceptable either. She has been bitching about the industry for years, but has kept recording. I don't think she could stop, even if she wanted to - it's in the blood. Maybe she just needs a rest. She can stay at my place, I don't mind. ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 15:26:25 -0800 (PST) From: Little Bird Subject: Re: Don't let her swan song herslef! >>>Maybe she just needs a rest. I think it's more like she needs a muse. She hasn't just been bitching about the music biz, she's been bitching about the state of the entire planet. I can see how writing songs about oil spills, evil nuns, wife beaters, greedy maids and lost kitties would take its toll. No one can really tell her to write or get inspired - that happens when it happens. Having said that, she has a whole new aspect of life to deal with, now that her daughter is a part of the picture, with grandchildren as well. Great fodder for songwriting, I would think. Surely something or someone will come along to spark that creative flame again. No worries - Joni will be back! - -Andrew Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 18:35:49 -0700 From: sl.m@shaw.ca Subject: Letters about Joni Mitchell statue Someone asked for the email address for Letters to the Editor at the StarPhoenix newspaper. If you want to write a letter supporting the commissioning of a statue of Joni Mitchell in Saskatoon (which would be helpful in showing we have national and international support for this), the email address is letters@thesp.com. Best, Sarah The StarPhoenix, Saskatoon, Saskatchewan Monday, December 16, 2002 By Darren Bernhardt of The StarPhoenix A fund has been set up in Saskatoon to raise money for a bronze statue to honour Joni Mitchell, one of Saskatoon's most famous daughters, and it's getting international support. The initiative was undertaken by Sarah Gibb, an expatriate Englander who moved to the city last year and has been a longtime fan of the accomplished painter, poet, singer and songwriter. "My first thought when I saw the downtown was, 'What, no Joni Mitchell statue?'" she said. "She's known all over the world and whether you like her music or not, there's no denying she's been tremendously influential on a whole generation of artists. I was amazed Saskatoon wasn't celebrating her. "I at least expected plaques saying, 'This is where Joni Mitchell lived' and 'This is where she went to school' and 'This is where she first sang in public'. We do this in England with our novelists, artists and historical figures, and it often injects a lot of visitors into an area because they want to see where Charles Dickens stayed when he wrote Bleak House or whatever." Mitchell is in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and listed No. 5 on VHI's list of The 100 Greatest Women of Rock and Roll. She was given the Order of Canada earlier this year, the nation's highest honour for lifetime achievement. Gibb was inspired to take action after reading a StarPhoenix story about a British Columbia man who wrote a letter to Saskatoon city council suggesting the council commission a statue. Mark Salzl was raised in Paradise Hill but plans to eventually move from B.C. to Saskatoon, which he calls his "home city". But a program doesn't exist for commissioning artwork. Salzl was told to look into private sponsorships. Recognizing the difficulty of campaigning two provinces away, Gibb took up the venture. A committee was created consisting of Gibb, Salzl and Les Irvin, founder of a Joni Mitchell Web site and discussion list (www.jmdl.com) in California. "Already, in response to the fund being set up, fans on the discussion list are talking about a pilgrimage to Saskatoon to have photographs taken with the statue," said Gibb. Salzl is amazed his suggestion garnered so much attention and that the process has begun. "I have to chuckle about the power of one little letter," he said. "But I don't think it would have happened so quick if Sarah didn't take it up. I'm very pleased," he said, adding he has received e-mails of encouragement from people in San Francisco. The committee's effort is The Joni Mitchell's Beside Herself Fund, stemming from an interview two weeks ago when Joni Mitchell talked about a bench with a statue of herself sitting at one end. She remarked that when she came here and sat on the bench, she could literally be beside herself. She expressed a preference for something that wasn't "on a pedestal" because it's not her style. It should be functional "where people could sit and muse," she said. The good-humoured Mitchell often visits her parents, who still live here. She said a statue would be an honour as well as "a place for birds to perch." Gibb and the rest of the committee members plan to approach local businesses for donations, as well as city council "who we hope will give us permission to locate the statue in a prominent place," she said. "We would love to see it overlooking the river near the Bessborough Hotel, as Joni Mitchell has the Bessborough featured on the cover of one of her early albums, Clouds." Another option is to have it in Broadway, where Mitchell started her singing career in the Louis Riel coffee house, as it was known then. Calories now occupies that spot. Regardless of where the statue goes, the coffee house site should have a commemorative plaque, said Gibb. The committee is in the process of approaching artists to have a campaign poster designed for distribution around the city. Joe Farfard, the Saskatchewan sculptor whose work in bronze is known internationally, has told the committee he is interested in doing the piece. "We don't know when we'll be in a position to commission something, as we have no idea how long it will take to raise the money," said Gibb. "We estimate we're going to need $100,000-$120,000, and so far we have $175. But we're determined to raise the rest." If anyone would like to help, the committee can be reached at BesideHerself@shaw.ca. Donations can be made directly to the fund at the Saskatoon Credit Union, Broadway Avenue branch, account number 7230444. Or cheques and money orders can be sent to Joni Mitchell's Beside Herself, P.O. Box 22100 (RPO Wildwood), Saskatoon, S7H 5P1. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 18:36:59 -0700 From: sl.m@shaw.ca Subject: Re: Letters about Joni Mitchell statue PS. Letters should show the name and postal address of sender. Someone asked for the email address for Letters to the Editor at the StarPhoenix newspaper. If you want to write a letter supporting the commissioning of a statue of Joni Mitchell in Saskatoon (which would be helpful in showing we have national and international support for this), the email address is letters@thesp.com. Best, Sarah The StarPhoenix, Saskatoon, Saskatchewan Monday, December 16, 2002 By Darren Bernhardt of The StarPhoenix A fund has been set up in Saskatoon to raise money for a bronze statue to honour Joni Mitchell, one of Saskatoon's most famous daughters, and it's getting international support. The initiative was undertaken by Sarah Gibb, an expatriate Englander who moved to the city last year and has been a longtime fan of the accomplished painter, poet, singer and songwriter. "My first thought when I saw the downtown was, 'What, no Joni Mitchell statue?'" she said. "She's known all over the world and whether you like her music or not, there's no denying she's been tremendously influential on a whole generation of artists. I was amazed Saskatoon wasn't celebrating her. "I at least expected plaques saying, 'This is where Joni Mitchell lived' and 'This is where she went to school' and 'This is where she first sang in public'. We do this in England with our novelists, artists and historical figures, and it often injects a lot of visitors into an area because they want to see where Charles Dickens stayed when he wrote Bleak House or whatever." Mitchell is in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and listed No. 5 on VHI's list of The 100 Greatest Women of Rock and Roll. She was given the Order of Canada earlier this year, the nation's highest honour for lifetime achievement. Gibb was inspired to take action after reading a StarPhoenix story about a British Columbia man who wrote a letter to Saskatoon city council suggesting the council commission a statue. Mark Salzl was raised in Paradise Hill but plans to eventually move from B.C. to Saskatoon, which he calls his "home city". But a program doesn't exist for commissioning artwork. Salzl was told to look into private sponsorships. Recognizing the difficulty of campaigning two provinces away, Gibb took up the venture. A committee was created consisting of Gibb, Salzl and Les Irvin, founder of a Joni Mitchell Web site and discussion list (www.jmdl.com) in California. "Already, in response to the fund being set up, fans on the discussion list are talking about a pilgrimage to Saskatoon to have photographs taken with the statue," said Gibb. Salzl is amazed his suggestion garnered so much attention and that the process has begun. "I have to chuckle about the power of one little letter," he said. "But I don't think it would have happened so quick if Sarah didn't take it up. I'm very pleased," he said, adding he has received e-mails of encouragement from people in San Francisco. The committee's effort is The Joni Mitchell's Beside Herself Fund, stemming from an interview two weeks ago when Joni Mitchell talked about a bench with a statue of herself sitting at one end. She remarked that when she came here and sat on the bench, she could literally be beside herself. She expressed a preference for something that wasn't "on a pedestal" because it's not her style. It should be functional "where people could sit and muse," she said. The good-humoured Mitchell often visits her parents, who still live here. She said a statue would be an honour as well as "a place for birds to perch." Gibb and the rest of the committee members plan to approach local businesses for donations, as well as city council "who we hope will give us permission to locate the statue in a prominent place," she said. "We would love to see it overlooking the river near the Bessborough Hotel, as Joni Mitchell has the Bessborough featured on the cover of one of her early albums, Clouds." Another option is to have it in Broadway, where Mitchell started her singing career in the Louis Riel coffee house, as it was known then. Calories now occupies that spot. Regardless of where the statue goes, the coffee house site should have a commemorative plaque, said Gibb. The committee is in the process of approaching artists to have a campaign poster designed for distribution around the city. Joe Farfard, the Saskatchewan sculptor whose work in bronze is known internationally, has told the committee he is interested in doing the piece. "We don't know when we'll be in a position to commission something, as we have no idea how long it will take to raise the money," said Gibb. "We estimate we're going to need $100,000-$120,000, and so far we have $175. But we're determined to raise the rest." If anyone would like to help, the committee can be reached at BesideHerself@shaw.ca. Donations can be made directly to the fund at the Saskatoon Credit Union, Broadway Avenue branch, account number 7230444. Or cheques and money orders can be sent to Joni Mitchell's Beside Herself, P.O. Box 22100 (RPO Wildwood), Saskatoon, S7H 5P1. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 20:14:11 -0500 From: "chuty001" Subject: Re: Don't let her swan song herslef! I doubt she will ever stop writing unless forced to it's a tough habit to break especially if she continues to paint. I think what it really comes down to is will she continue to share it. I would understand if she chose not to especially in this era of music where a pretty voice with nothing to say gets listened to far more than one with character and substance. Chuck - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Little Bird" To: "Catherine McKay" ; Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 6:26 PM Subject: Re: Don't let her swan song herslef! > >>>Maybe she just needs a rest. > > I think it's more like she needs a muse. She hasn't just been bitching about the music biz, she's been bitching about the state of the entire planet. I can see how writing songs about oil spills, evil nuns, wife beaters, greedy maids and lost kitties would take its toll. No one can really tell her to write or get inspired - that happens when it happens. Having said that, she has a whole new aspect of life to deal with, now that her daughter is a part of the picture, with grandchildren as well. Great fodder for songwriting, I would think. Surely something or someone will come along to spark that creative flame again. No worries - Joni will be back! > > -Andrew > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 00:29:19 -0500 From: "William Chavez" Subject: Joni FTR song book JC >Now, my question: I have a hardbound book of sheet music for C&S, >Blue, >and FTR. I bought it at a library book sale-what a find! But >I've heard >that there is a softcover folio of FTR that has artwork in >it. Is this >true? If so, does anyone have any ideas or know of >a .resource where this >may be purchased? >Thanks >Ken I have it and I like this song book very much. It was the first Joni song book that I found that had very accurate alternate tunings. There are Joni painting throughout. very similar to the early version of the Joni Mitchell Songbook Vol 1. It also had many paintings that were later omitted when the song book was reprinted. I bought it through an auction through Goldmine(record collectors mag) close to 20 years ago. It's in storage and I haven't seen it in years. Maybe one day I'll be able to unpack! Will _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 00:35:41 -0500 From: Eric Taylor Subject: Re: Joni's voice Today I received an e-mail responding to my latest post about Joni's beautiful voice on T'log. The writer accidentally sent me a copy intended for his JMDL buddies. It reads: "see what i mean? this guy needs a good thrashing! my comment on him bravoing joni's bathroom sounds did not, apparently, do the trick. i think it may become my mission in life now to mock him, publicly. what a buffoon! the king of the joni pod people... " The writer sent me another e-mail explaining that he accidentally sent this to me and apologized (sort of). I've been pondering this all day. Did some people join the JMDL thinking it stands for the Joni Mitchell Diss List? Am I now to be publicly thrashed & mocked because I've expressed my growing love for Joni's voice & T'log? Bring it on! ET ;~D NP: Borderline ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 22:15:06 -0800 (PST) From: Little Bird Subject: Re: Joni's voice My goodness! Well, now that Eric has all the power, what ever shall he do with it? Expose the "criminal" for all to see? Tempting, eh? It's such a wonderful time of year to want to publicly mock people and call them buffoons, too! It's just heart warming and really restores my faith in camaraderie. Chances are if our mystery man thinks Eric is a buffoon that others are on his "to-be-publicly-mocked" hit list also, since he is not alone in his appreciation of Joni's Travelogian voice. (Bathroom noises? And he calls himself a fan? Maybe he should look up the definition of buffoon.) The bloodthirsty shark in me wants to see his name in bright lights. - -Andrew Eric Taylor wrote:Today I received an e-mail responding to my latest post about Joni's beautiful voice on T'log. The writer accidentally sent me a copy intended for his JMDL buddies. It reads: "see what i mean? this guy needs a good thrashing! my comment on him bravoing joni's bathroom sounds did not, apparently, do the trick. i think it may become my mission in life now to mock him, publicly. what a buffoon! the king of the joni pod people... " The writer sent me another e-mail explaining that he accidentally sent this to me and apologized (sort of). I've been pondering this all day. Did some people join the JMDL thinking it stands for the Joni Mitchell Diss List? Am I now to be publicly thrashed & mocked because I've expressed my growing love for Joni's voice & T'log? Bring it on! ET ;~D NP: Borderline Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 01:39:06 -0500 From: "William Chavez" Subject: Judy Collins/Laura Nyro >yes i agree reuben, "judith" marked a change in judy where she >started to >sing more flatly and a little passsionless. >but the albums up till then are what i'm talking about. assured, >fearless >and groundbreaking. stong guitair strumming and a fierce >altro. there is a >lot of good work there in those 10 or 12 lps. I agree that Judy's vocal approach on "Judith" starts to change. There are a couple of tracks on here that I love despite the change. "Houses" is beautiful lyrically and musically. I feel that this is the best version of "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress"(I know some will disagree). I also like "Send in the Clowns" but i agree that it would be a horrible Joni song. I love both of these Laura Nyro albums(Eli... & NYT). When people look at me in the car singing with Lauro they probably think I'm crazy. Yelling and screaming "run, run, run you son of a guuuuuuuuuuun!!!!!!!" Crazy is good in Miami, people tend to leave you alone. Will _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 02:00:43 -0500 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today in History: December 18 1997: From a post to the list by Pat Mead: "Joni Mitchell attended the Bob Dylan concert at the tiny El Rey Theater in LA. Joni watched from a small balcony at the back of theater where all the seating has been reserved for VIP guests. After the opening set by Sheryl Crow she worked her way through the crowd on the floor (no mean feat) and disappeared backstage, presumably to visit with Bob. Before Bob took the stage she reappeared and found her way back to the VIP area. I think she may have been accompanied by Kilauren but it was hard to see the balcony celebs very well from my spot in the crowd near the front." - ---- For a comprehensive reference to Joni's appearances, consult Joni Mitchell ~ A Chronology of Appearances: http://www.jonimitchell.com/appearances.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 02:00:43 -0500 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Library Links: December 18 On December 18 the following item was published: 2001: "Kate Comes to Dinner" - New York Newsday (News Item) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=709 - -------- Can you type? http://www.jmdl.com/typing/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 02:13:04 -0500 From: "William Chavez" Subject: Joni review-Bravo!! JC Kate Loved your review of T'log. You praised heavily without appearing like some Joni obsessed wacko. People need to read a review with out think the word "adoration","hatred" or just plain ignorance. It's a shame it wasn't a wee bit longer but a lot of pepole don't like reviews that go on and on anyways. Hope you made a dent! Will _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2002 #397 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)