From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2002 #380 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Saturday, December 7 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 380 Sign up now for JoniFest 2003! http://www.jonifest.com ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Poe stories [Little Bird ] Re: THAT C&S SONG [KJHSF@aol.com] Re: THAT C&S SONG [Little Bird ] Joni in the park ["michael o'malley" ] Re: THAT C&S SONG [KJHSF@aol.com] That C & S song [Cactustree78@aol.com] Re: Subject: Travelogue - Wow! [Eric W Taylor ] Re: Dylan and joni: Idiot Wind [Randy Remote ] Re: Travelogue - thumbs down I'm afraid [Randy Remote ] Re: THAT C&S SONG [dsk ] Re: Lady with the hole in her stocking [dsk ] Today in History: December 7 [ljirvin@jmdl.com] Today's Library Links: December 7 [ljirvin@jmdl.com] Re: My ideas on Joni's statue [dsk ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 20:51:31 -0800 (PST) From: Little Bird Subject: Poe stories Two of his most creepy tales (and they're all creepy) are The Telltale Heart and The House of Usher. The Telltale Heart is about a man who commits murder and buries his victim under the floor but the sound of a beating heart in his head, which gets repeatedly louder and louder, drives him insane with guilt and he eventually goes completely mad, unable to stop the beating sound in his mind. Another is The House of Usher about a very creepy brother and sister living in a huge mansion. I believe the sister is blind. I forget how the story goes but in the end the house crumbles to the ground under the weight of enormous evil and untold secrets. I'd have to read these stories again to search for possible Joni fodder. Then there was his poetry...the man was quite prolific. - -Andrew Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 23:57:54 EST From: KJHSF@aol.com Subject: Re: THAT C&S SONG It's all got me thinking about 1974 and I did some research. Joni reached #7 In April with Help Me. Maria Muldaur reached #6 in March with Midnight at the Oasis BUT Sister Janet Mead reached #4 in March with (remember this?)The Lord's Prayer LOL Ken P.S. Popcorn was nowhere to be seen :( ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 21:00:26 -0800 (PST) From: Little Bird Subject: Re: THAT C&S SONG I believe Help Me got all the way to #2 on the Canadian charts. - -Andrew - --- KJHSF@aol.com wrote: > It's all got me thinking about 1974 and I did some > research. > > Joni reached #7 In April with Help Me. > Maria Muldaur reached #6 in March with Midnight at > the Oasis > BUT > Sister Janet Mead reached #4 in March with (remember > this?)The Lord's Prayer > > LOL > Ken > P.S. Popcorn was nowhere to be seen :( Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2002 00:05:13 -0500 From: "michael o'malley" Subject: Joni in the park I think we should get Anjelica Huston's husband, Robert Graham, to do the statue. They are both close friends of Joni's, and Graham is one of the great Mexican/American sculptors working today. He has done several memorials, including ones for FDR and Duke Ellington. He's doing the new doors for the LA cathedral. I just don't want to see some artist's well-intended attempt to portray Joni. I think it must be very beautiful, since Joni is UQOMB!. Her expression and likeness are difficult to catch - and a less talented artist could ending up creating an embarassingly bad cartoon. We need to work on Anjelica for this one! Michael in Quebec ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2002 00:30:10 EST From: KJHSF@aol.com Subject: Re: THAT C&S SONG In a message dated 12/7/2002 12:00:29 AM Eastern Standard Time, littlebird3333@yahoo.com writes: > I believe Help Me got all the way to #2 on the > Canadian charts. > > That's becuase you Canadians have style and taste. Ken ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2002 00:57:23 -0500 From: Cactustree78@aol.com Subject: That C & S song Even though HM was Joni's big radio hit it still stands up as an amazing song..I think it perfectly describes the feelin most people have when they are embarking on a new romance..The line "hopin for the future and worryin bout the past" wow! Says it all right there...I love C & S cant get enough.. P.S Joni has a cool article/interview in the new Rolling Stone and this time it was done by David Wild, who in my opinion treats Joni with respect and comes off soundin like a fan who feels honored to interview one of his idols..She looks fierce in the photo, im assuming thats her backyard,whatta beauty..Lookin relaxed and content..Have a great weekend y'all :) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2002 01:23:04 -0500 From: Eric W Taylor Subject: Re: Subject: Travelogue - Wow! Stephen Toogood wrote: << Her more 'hushed' version of ' Woodstock' is really growing on me and the more I listen to 'For The Roses' the more I can here the melody coming through and the ending really is worth waiting for. >> That is my experience as well. It took a good five listens to finally begin to fathom the depth of these two songs. I'm sure they are the reason Rolling Stone called Travelogue "strange." I've been listenings to T at least once a day for ten days and appreciate it more each time! There isn't a weak song on it and I'm ready to say that it's my #1 fave Joni has ever released. Sorry if I've offended anyone with my passionate love for all things Joni. It's just that the woman never ceases to overwhelm me with her unparalleled artistry!!! This album deserves at least five Grammy's. ET NP: Richard (T) WOW!!! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 22:25:06 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: Dylan and joni: Idiot Wind I had heard it was about Roger McGuinn; the reference to "Chestnut Mare" (one of his songs) would seem to bear this out. RR Patti Witten wrote: > Someone once told me that Dylan''s "Idiot Wind" (1975, Blood On The Tracks) > was about Joni. My apologies if this has already been covered. > > > I woke up on the roadside, daydreamin' 'bout the way things sometimes are > > Visions of your chestnut mare shoot through my head and are makin' me see > > stars. > > You hurt the ones that I love best and cover up the truth with lies. > > One day you'll be in the ditch, flies buzzin' around your eyes, > > Blood on your saddle. > > Not very flattering! Is it a "true" legend? > > here's the rest of the lyric > http://www.bobdylan.com/songs/idiot.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 22:28:15 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: Travelogue - thumbs down I'm afraid Have you ever taken a few bites of food, and said "uh...no thanks...." ? Would eating more of it make you like it better? Eric W Taylor wrote: I always love it when a critical reviewer pans an album > admittedly before listening to the first half of it. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2002 01:47:13 -0500 From: Cactustree78@aol.com Subject: Lady with the hole in her stocking I always thought this line refered to a funny experience that she was lookin back on...Like "oh honey, remember that time we were at that club and that lady asked you to dance and she had all those runs in her stocking"..Thats what I always think of when I hear that line...Peace again ***kevin**** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2002 02:14:04 -0500 From: Eric W Taylor Subject: Re: thumbs down (tears remix) Catherine in Toronto wrote: << If I'm in a particularly depressed mood and listen to Travelogue, I just end up crying my eyes out anyway, so listening to it a lot probably ain't a good idea. Not that it's depressing, but I do find it emotionally draining when I'm feeling weak. >> Funny, when Joni's music makes me cry I always feel SO much better. It's like creatively understanding the root of one's sadness. I usually feel energized when hearing the demons of despair being told off so beautifully! ET NP: Borderline (T) ~ SO TRUE! PS. ;~D ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2002 02:26:30 -0500 From: dsk Subject: Re: THAT C&S SONG Adam Mulvey wrote: > > I always thought it was "hard hard places!" Ignorant I am. But why is it > so great? It's the "smoke and ash". She just sounds so *passionate* about > it - bitter, but passionate - "I've seen a few things, and I've seen a few > dreams gone sour, and I've had to accept it; but man, it churns me up > inside". And I thought it was just me that was so enraptured by this bit of > the song! Help Me is a fantastic song! I remember being thrilled every time it came on the radio, which was often, at least once an hour, and as soon as I heard the guitar intro I always had to stop whatever I was doing and listen to the whole song. Anyone with me had to listen, too, or at least not talk to me until the song was over. I think of it as Joni's theme song, the thrill of romance, love, sex, the hopefulness at the beginning, the worry about loss of independence. And even with all the worry and all the smoke and ash history, she's going to do it again, can't stop herself. I find that very inspiring. What a wonderful song! Debra Shea ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2002 02:38:59 -0500 From: dsk Subject: Re: Lady with the hole in her stocking Cactustree78@aol.com wrote: > > I always thought this line refered to a funny experience that she was lookin back on...Like "oh honey, remember that time we were at that club and that lady asked you to dance and she had all those runs in her stocking"..Thats what I always think of when I hear that line... I always think of Joni as the woman with the hole in her stocking, dancing shoeless and with sensual abandon. She's so enamored and in the moment of her new passion that something she'd normally fix now seems trivial. There's a celebration going on! Didn't it feel good? Indeed. Debra Shea ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2002 02:39:57 -0500 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today in History: December 7 1975: The Rolling Thunder Review, including Joni, performed at the Correctional Institution for Women at Clinton, New Jersey. More info: http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=299 - ---- For a comprehensive reference to Joni's appearances, consult Joni Mitchell ~ A Chronology of Appearances: http://www.jonimitchell.com/appearances.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2002 02:39:57 -0500 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Library Links: December 7 On December 7 the following item was published: 1974: "...and now it's Our Lady of Optimism" - New Musical Express (Review - Album) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=452 - -------- Can you type? http://www.jmdl.com/typing/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2002 02:55:19 -0500 From: dsk Subject: Re: My ideas on Joni's statue George Segal's "people" always have such a sense of loneliness about them, so imagining Joni as a Segal sculpture is an interesting idea. For all her sociability, she does have a reclusive side. Duane Hanson is still around, and he not only shows the warts, he glorifies them. He'd happily include cigs for a Joni sculpture, and probably have one continuously blowing smoke rings. http://museum.oglethorpe.edu/Hanson.htm Maybe a little too realistic? :-) Debra Shea Jerry Notaro wrote: > > Too bad sculptor George Segal is no longer alive. I'm sure he would have > loved to tackle this project. > > Jerry ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2002 #380 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)