From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2002 #291 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Saturday, October 5 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 291 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Today's Library Links: October 4 [ljirvin@adelphia.net] jonionly - me again ["Sarah Cartwright" ] Re: Graham show - Joni and related content - LONG [Jerry Notaro ] Re: Travelogue [Jerry Notaro ] Tr: Travelogue ["Laurent Olszer" ] Re: Tr: Travelogue [Jerry Notaro ] Re: jonionly - me again [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: jonionly - me again ["Sarah Cartwright" ] Re: jonionly - me again [Murphycopy@aol.com] Re: jonionly - me again ["Sarah Cartwright" ] Counting Crows BYT Cover ["Steve Polifka" ] Re: Counting Crows BYT Cover ["Cynthia Vickery" ] RE: Graham show - Joni and related content - LONG ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: jonionly - me again [Catherine McKay ] Joni CDs - some really cheap - at hmv.ca [Catherine McKay Subject: jonionly - me again Ken / Bob thanks for responding to my joni thoughts and to gordon and azeem for your welcome to the list! - Ken, totally agree, Annie Lennox would be fantastic in Song for Sharon, although not to labour the point I did first think it was de de de de de etc for the refrain , but i think later on there are definitely some words there in amongst it all!!! - i think i am perhaps over-analysing this though & should probably do something more constructive .... reading all of your posts, i still feel like a complete novice joniphile - i would be really interested in what anyone thinks the next joni album i should add to the collection should be - so far , it consists of LOTC, blue, THOSL, and hejira. oh, and clouds, but i can't get into that one too well for some reason. also if anyone know where i can get piano music for the last time i saw richard, i would be veeerrrrryyyyy grateful!!!! bye for now, sarah - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. Click Here ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 08:28:26 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Graham show - Joni and related content - LONG Thanks so much, Kakki. As always, you make us feel like we were right there with you. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 14:29:32 +0200 From: Christoffer Gudi Sommer-Gleerup Subject: Re: jonionly - me again Sarah wrote: > reading all of your posts, i still feel like a complete novice joniphile > - i would be really interested in what anyone thinks the next joni album > i should add to the collection should be - so far , it consists of LOTC, > blue, THOSL, and hejira. oh, and clouds, but i can't get into that one > too well for some reason. I know how you feel about being a novice, so I might not be the best to advice you. However, I just got "Don Juan's Reckless Daugther" a little while ago and I'm completely addicted to the album! It's got some beautifully arranged songs on it and is very varied (it's even got some jungle pieces!). I can also recommend "Court And Spark" with some great piano songs and a bit of jazz as well. The album has a nice flow all the way through it. Anyway, I'm sure you'll see a lot of different answers to your question...you can always try and check out the album poll on the JMDL-webpage. Good luck exploring! :-) Christina ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 14:23:27 +0100 From: "Laurent Olszer" Subject: Travelogue I'm a little confused: Amazon says Travelogue is to be released on Nov 19, yet some JMDLers are already commenting on the artwork of the hatbox. Are they record Co. insiders or is Amazon taking orders for the non-hatbox version, or is the hatbox available yet? What's going on please? PS: Bob: glad to see you're into ZZ Top, Fool for Your Stockings is on our gig list. Also I plan on taping their Paris show next week if you're interested. PPS: If anybody wants to know the meaning of ZZ Top I know the story but am afraid Wally will go bananas when he reads it. Laurent ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 08:57:21 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Travelogue Laurent Olszer wrote: > I'm a little confused: Amazon says Travelogue is to be released on Nov 19, yet > some JMDLers are already commenting on the artwork of the hatbox. Are they > record Co. insiders or is Amazon taking orders for the non-hatbox version, or > is the hatbox available yet? What's going on please? The artwork refers to the "deluxe" release of Both Sides Now. It was a special packaging that came in a supposed chocolate box, some artwork, and a very loose cd. Jerry nlt Tom Petty on the Today show ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 15:03:48 +0100 From: "Laurent Olszer" Subject: Tr: Travelogue > > The artwork refers to the "deluxe" release of Both Sides Now. It was a > special > > packaging that came in a supposed chocolate box, some artwork, and a very > loose > > cd. > > > > Jerry > > > Amazingly fast answer Jerry, thanks. I never heard of that special edition, > do you know by any chance if it's still available? > > Laurent ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 09:06:27 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Tr: Travelogue Brand new from Half.com for 27.00. Long way from the original 49.95 price. Jerry Laurent Olszer wrote: > > > The artwork refers to the "deluxe" release of Both Sides Now. It was a > > special > > > packaging that came in a supposed chocolate box, some artwork, and a > very > > loose > > > cd. > > > > > > Jerry > > > > > Amazingly fast answer Jerry, thanks. I never heard of that special > edition, > > do you know by any chance if it's still available? > > > > Laurent ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 10:05:24 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: jonionly - me again **I can also recommend "Court And Spark" with some great piano songs and a bit of jazz as well. The album has a nice flow all the way through it.** I'm with Christina on that one...if you don't have C&S yet, get that one next. Clouds will grow on you though, trust me on that as well. Bob NP: Counting Crows, "Big Yellow Taxi" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 15:20:03 +0100 From: "Sarah Cartwright" Subject: Re: jonionly - me again court and spark it is then, I trust your judgements!! i hope clouds will grow on me Bob, I find that with each album I have just now , I tend to choose to listen to depending on my mood, i.e. THOSL , I love when the sun's shining and put it on in my car really loud !!- with Clouds I think I chose to listen to it 1st time round on my way to work, it was a Monday morning & raining ( and I'm not a good morning person!!) so that didn't help matters.......!! >From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com >To: christi@dsr.kvl.dk, sarc25@hotmail.com >CC: joni@smoe.org >Subject: Re: jonionly - me again >Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 10:05:24 EDT > >**I can also >recommend "Court And Spark" with some great piano songs and a bit of jazz as >well. The album has a nice flow all the way through it.** > > >I'm with Christina on that one...if you don't have C&S yet, get that one >next. Clouds will grow on you though, trust me on that as well. > >Bob > >NP: Counting Crows, "Big Yellow Taxi" - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: Click Here ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 10:26:07 EDT From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: jonionly - me again Sarah writes: << I tend to choose to listen to depending on my mood, i.e. THOSL , I love when the sun's shining and put it on in my car really loud !! >> If you like good driving music, "Court and Spark" is a great driving album. Welcome, Sarah. I hope you enjoy discovering more Joni. --Bob (the other BM) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 15:44:36 +0100 From: "Sarah Cartwright" Subject: Re: jonionly - me again this 2 Bob M thing can be quite confusing for a newcomer such as myself, but think I have just about worked out how to distinguish between you two .... >From: Murphycopy@aol.com >To: sarc25@hotmail.com, SCJoniGuy@aol.com, christi@dsr.kvl.dk >CC: joni@smoe.org >Subject: Re: jonionly - me again >Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 10:26:07 EDT > >Sarah writes: > ><< I tend to choose to listen to depending on my mood, i.e. THOSL >, I love when the sun's shining and put it on in my car really loud !! >> > >If you like good driving music, "Court and Spark" is a great driving album. > >Welcome, Sarah. I hope you enjoy discovering more Joni. > > --Bob (the other BM) - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. Click Here ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 10:47:51 -0500 From: "Steve Polifka" Subject: Counting Crows BYT Cover Hi all, A friend of mine just called to tell me that the Counting Crows do a cover of BYT on thier new CD Hard Candy. It is a hidden track about 4:50 into the last song, Holiday in Spain. Has anyone heard it yet? Steve ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 11:12:51 -0500 From: "Cynthia Vickery" Subject: Re: Counting Crows BYT Cover Steve asked: <> Just after the *funny* Bob signed off with: <> and now me - if you haven't already begged or cajoled Bob for his "Sweet 16" covers compilation, do so immediately!!!! this Counting crows cover is AMAZINGLY good, alone worth the price of admission, and more! but the hits don't stop there! you also get bonnie raitt's amazing take on "midway" and prince's "acoy" and some other pretty darn good stuff, too. bob - you truly outdid yourself with this one!! cindy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 11:27:57 -0500 From: "Steve Polifka" Subject: Re: Counting Crows BYT Cover Well Cynthia, Maybe I'll have to beg Bob on my hands and knees... ;-) for a copy of Sweet Sixteen... Bob, I'm begging now... (hee hee) Steve - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cynthia Vickery" To: "Steve Polifka" Cc: ; Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 11:12 AM Subject: Re: Counting Crows BYT Cover > > Steve asked: > < do a cover of BYT on thier new CD Hard Candy. Has anyone heard it > yet?>> > > Just after the *funny* Bob signed off with: > < NP: Counting Crows, "Big Yellow Taxi">> > > and now me - > if you haven't already begged or cajoled Bob for his "Sweet 16" > covers compilation, do so immediately!!!! > this Counting crows cover is AMAZINGLY good, alone worth the > price of admission, and more! voice....> but the hits don't stop there! you also get bonnie > raitt's amazing take on "midway" and prince's "acoy" and some > other pretty darn good stuff, too. > > bob - you truly outdid yourself with this one!! > > > cindy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 11:47:14 -0500 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: Re: jonionly - me again Hi Sarah. Just my two cents worth though I am not as deeply involved into Joni as others here and surely don't have the knowledge about her that some of them do. For me, C and S and Blue are at the top of the list with FTR. Hard to say which is better, to me, as they have all touched me deeply in different ways. If pressed, I would have to give FTR the top spot though for it is incomparable. LOTC and Turbulent Indigo are in the next group for me. I find TI great driving music and love to listen to it while in the car. It has grown on me while I have had it and I seem to like it more each time I listen to it. Many don't care for Sex Kills, which I didn't the first few times I listened to it, but now I adore it. The rest of the albums (the ones I have and in this group I write about Hejira, THOSL, Clouds, and NRH) don't do much for me as albums. I have found tunes on each that I like but overall I consider them average to poor, Clouds included. Hasn't mattered how many times I have listened to it, it still bores me and I like Judy Collins version of Both Sides Now much more than Joni's. Hejira seems to be a favorite here although I don't get it. Do love Black Crow and Song for Sharon but can't find the appeal for Coyote and think Blue Motel Room is just dreadful. At the bottom of the heap is CMIAR. This is terrible, in my opinion, and not worth the money I spent on it. Most of it I can't even hear Joni, which is why I bought it in the first place. Apples and oranges but do get FTR, you cannot go wrong with it and it will forever be close to your heart. And: I haven't even heard DED. Have been tempted to buy it numerous times but the comments here have scared me away from doing so. Might get up the courage to spend that money one of these days. Also, haven't heard Mingus, DJRD, or TTT. Have some more listening to do and that is something to look forward to, if I can locate them. Mack ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 12:57:23 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Counting Crows BYT Cover/Sweet 16 **bob - you truly outdid yourself with this one!!** Thanks, Cindy...I guess I just had so many requests to put together a "Best Of" collection I buckled. Glad you're digging it, I was just listening to it this morning meself! Here is the lineup for this CD: 1. Lydia van Dam - All I Want 2. Will Taylor - Black Crow 3. Karin Allyson - Blue Motel Room 4. The Rumba Club - This Flight Tonight 5. Anni Clark - He Comes For Conversation 6. Christine Sullivan - I Think I Understand 7. Mark Wise - Woodstock 8. Prince - A Case Of You 9. Gregson & Collister - Same Situation 10. Bonnie Raitt - That Song About The Midway 11. Jack Donahue - Little Green 12. Chaka Khan - Man From Mars 13. Carla Helmbrecht - Song To A Seagull 14. Kevyn Lettau - You Turn Me On I'm A Radio 15. Counting Crows - Big Yellow Taxi 16. Carl Verheyen - Cactus Tree Of course, there are PLENTY more great ones where these came from, these are just 16 that came immediately to mind and provide a nice cross-section between Joni's songs & musical genres. Happy to share a copy with anyone interested. Also, DON'T FORGET to try & win a FREE copy! Just send me your e-mail with a guess of a Joni song and the LP/CD it appears on, and maybe you'll win! I'll close the contest Saturday midnight. Bob NP: Patti Witten, "Is That True" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 11:14:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Mags N Brei Subject: Fwd: Eleanor: hughs room moved to Oct 9th From the eleanor mcevoy mailing list: might want to check out the link to Hugh's Room (Catherine McKay!) and otherlisters who are in the Toronto area this season...Eric Anderson, Richie Havens.. Dave Bradstreet to name a few. And Eleanor McEvoy is fantastic in person!!!! We saw her at the Tin Angel in August . (Philadelphia). Hugh's Room is a fantastic club! Eric played last October, and Joni showed up and went on stage with him so you just never know when she might show up again. Mags. wishing. > > As the song goes Last seen Oct 9th > > the Oct 10th show at http://www.hughsroom.com/ > has been moved to Oct 9th > > all latest dates at http://www.eleanormcevoy.net/ > > > > nttw: Moulin Rouge ===== You open my heart, you do. Yes you do. - JM Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes http://autos.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 15:45:48 EDT From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: greatness I was listening to a local (Boston) talk radio station this afternoon. Usually they broadcast liberal-bashing shows with hate-mongering hosts for 23 hours a day (96.9 FM), but they do have one okay show from noon to one on weekdays (Eagan & Broudie). Today, in honor of Bruce's appearance tonight at the Fleet Center, Eagan & Broudie featured a call-in poll that co-host Jim Broudie was conducting which asked, "Is Bruce the best male performer in the world, or is Jim crazy?" Anyway, the votes were about 95% for Bruce, 5% for Jim being crazy. Then, after dealing with one caller who disagreed with him, Broudie said, "It's like the greatest female performer of our time -- Joni Mitchell -- said, "You don't know what you've got till it's gone." ! ! ! He didn't say that Joni was the greatest female singer or songwriter or musician, he said she was the GREATEST FEMALE PERFORMER OF OUR TIME!!! (Even I don't go that far, although I *would* say greatest songwrter, male or female.) I think this guy should be on this list. Have a great weekend, everybody. --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 23:30:43 +0100 From: "William" Subject: Kakki says, There is a Godzilla Maybe running behind the times on this one ... Must go down as the sitcom episode with the most Joni moments - Grace gets to 'sing' Free Man twice; Will tells Grace to get into her BYT; Joni + Mitchell a head-giddying 1943 times. I was half expecting a cameo walk on. Cheez, where IS the woman? Any minute now. Kakki! Kakki! Kakki! <<>> Aaaaaaargh! Indeed! Not just a little green, tropical verdurous Godzilla-sized at your close encounter. Thanks everso for the account. Got to get my vinyls out and listen to those GN albums. All this and Jack says (paraphrasing) on seeing Karen's massive clauset, "If I had a clauset this big I would never have come out of it." All this and Patsy says on Ab Fab, "They are so rich they could order China for take away." From the Chinese Cafe of course - felt a little more JC was needed in there. Weekendorphin overload. WtS x ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 17:38:05 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE: Graham show - Joni and related content - LONG oh definitely yes! i have never NEVER met joni!? i've met graham tho & he is the SWEETEST man i have ever met who is famous... >Darice here.... next time when i invite you, come on down, ya hear!!!!!!! all we needed was a redhead to round out the trio; blond, brunette and red.< ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 18:36:57 -0700 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: greatness > He didn't say that Joni was the greatest female singer or songwriter or > musician, he said she was the GREATEST FEMALE PERFORMER OF OUR TIME!!! Yeah but Joni would have a conniption about the 'FEMALE' part. Mark E in Seattle having a rare Friday night cocktail ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 22:00:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: jonionly - me again --- Sarah Cartwright wrote: > > reading all of your posts, i still feel like a > complete novice joniphile > - i would be really interested in what anyone > thinks the next joni album > i should add to the collection should be - so far , > it consists of LOTC, > blue, THOSL, and hejira. oh, and clouds, but i can't > get into that one > too well for some reason. Welcome to the list, Sarah. The good thing about being relatively new to Joni is that you have so much to look forward to and you'll be kept busy for quite a while! I agree with Christina/Christopher ;) about Don Juan's (W)reckless Daughter, but it happens to be among my favourites, although many people think it's flawed. (I don't mind flawed.) Then again, there's For the Roses, another personal favourite. Night Ride Home and Turbulent Indigo are also good choices. (There aren't really any bad choices, just some less good choices depending on your own personal taste.) Have fun. (P.S. My daughter's name is Sarah, with an h - such a lovely name!) ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 22:20:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Joni CDs - some really cheap - at hmv.ca So, I decided to check www.hmv.ca to see if there was any chance of ordering "Travelogue" in advance from a local source. No apparent sign of it yet (how Canadian!), but I did find a few interesting things: First, you can get DED for $7.99 CDN ($5.26 US)- is that cheap or what?! Jeez, even if you're one of those who hate it, you should buy it anyway - buy two! Second, HOSL or NRH for $10.99 CDN or $7.23 US. There are a few more for $16.99 CDN, which is still cheap for here. Then, there's this other thing I've never heard of - "For Free" for $12.99 CDN. Judging by the track listing, it looks like one of those "Ladies of the Canyon" things rearranged (what's that other one called? Girls in the Valley? the one with the really ugly caricature of Joni on it). But this version doesn't have that ugly picture on it. There's no other info given, but I suppose it's one of those strange import rip-offs (how does that happen anyway?) ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 21:33:42 -0500 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: Re: Joni CDs - some really cheap - at hmv.ca Catherine wrote: what's that other one > called? Girls in the Valley?. Smiles come with difficulty these days Catherine so thanks for the two that these words of yours gave me. Mack ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 22:58:32 EDT From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: greatness Mark writes: << Yeah but Joni would have a conniption about the 'FEMALE' part. >> And I sorta woulda too, but he *was* talking about Bruce being the greatest 'MALE' performer, so I didn't think his comment was particularly sexist. And this radio guy is an ultra liberal from the People's Republic of Cambridge on a station that panders to the absolute lowest of conservative racists, sexists and haters, so I cut him a break. Within the context of the radio show, Joni would have too, I think. And just for the record, I DO have a problem most of the time when anyone refers to Joni as the best 'FEMALE' anything. Her greatness transcends any of that bullshit. --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 20:39:23 -0700 From: "kakki" Subject: Re: Graham show - Joni and related content - LONG Ah, but O Great Wit, you are fabulous ALL the time while I merely catch stray moments before turning back into the pumpkin again ;-D Kakki > Gee, Darice and Kakki . . . I guess some people just lead more fabulous lives > than others! ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2002 #291 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)