From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2002 #288 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Thursday, October 3 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 288 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: The dreaded Hatbox! (sorry) [Catherine McKay ] you put me through hell [Murphycopy@aol.com] Songs for Aging Baby Boomers [Ricw1217@aol.com] Re: you put me through hell [David Sadowski ] Re: Early Live Recordings [Michael Paz ] Re: The dreaded Hatbox! [Michael Paz ] Now Joni's Songs for Aging Baby Boomers [Murphycopy@aol.com] FW: Blasphemy?? JC ["Russell Bowden" ] Demolition some joni content [Michael Paz Subject: Re: The dreaded Hatbox! (sorry) --- Catherine McKay wrote: a bunch of stuff. And I should've marked it njc. D'oh! Sorry. ===== Catherine Toronto ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 22:44:23 EDT From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: you put me through hell Does anyone have the lyrics to this Joni parody? I believe it was done by some 60s or 70s comedy group, such as Firesign Theater. It occured to me that it should be in Joni in Fiction. I am betting that a certain SCJoniGuy is the first to respond . . . Thanks, --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 22:59:48 EDT From: Ricw1217@aol.com Subject: Songs for Aging Baby Boomers for all you aging baby boomers, here is a song for you... > Paul Simon - "Fifty Ways to Lose Your Liver" > Carly Simon - "You're So Varicose Vein" > The Bee Gees - "How Can You Mend a Broken Hip" > Roberta Flack - "The First Time Ever I Forgot Your Face" > Johnny Nash - "I Can't See Clearly Now" > The Temptations - "Papa Got a Kidney Stone" > Nancy Sinatra - "These Boots Give Me Arthritis" > ABBA - "Denture Queen" > Leo Sayer - "You Make Me Feel Like Napping" > Commodores - "Once, Twice, Three Trips to the Bathroom" > Procol Harem - "A Whiter Shade of Hair" > The Beatles - "I Get By with a Little Help From Depends" > Steely Dan - "Rikki Don't Lose Your Car Keys" > Herman's Hermits - "Mrs. Brown You've Got a Lovely Walker" > The Rolling Stones - "You Can't Always Pee When You Want" > Credence Clearwater Revival - "Bad Prune Rising" > Marvin Gaye - "I Heard It Through the Grape Nuts" > The Who - "Talkin' 'Bout My Medication" > The Troggs - "Bald Thing" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2002 22:01:39 -0500 From: David Sadowski Subject: Re: you put me through hell Is this the song you mean? Hell (You've Put Me Through) Cummings/Goodge Why don't you tell me that you love me Or show me your desire Your lies are fuel to the fire that is burning down below I will never know how you let our love go Started something...can't you see Sure have made a fool of me...and Hell...you've put me in Hell...thrown my love away Hell...when you put me under your spell...in hell You spend my love like loose change In the city rush hour You pose riddles and devour... Love is not here anymore I wish that I were you...I envy Everything that you do Started something...can't you see Sure have made a fool of me...and Hell...you've put me in Hell...thrown my love away Hell...when you put me under your spell...in hell Murphycopy@aol.com wrote: >Does anyone have the lyrics to this Joni parody? I believe it was done by >some 60s or 70s comedy group, such as Firesign Theater. It occured to me that >it should be in Joni in Fiction. > >I am betting that a certain SCJoniGuy is the first to respond . . . > >Thanks, > > --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2002 22:54:21 -0700 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Early Live Recordings Welcome back Gary! You have experienced the hostess with the mostest. She makes everyone feel so at home in that strange old town. Say hello to the motor city for me. It's been years since I have been there. I lived at 9306 Wyoming back in the day. There was a crack house there my last time thru. BTW I vote for letting Carnival out for the covers project. Best Paz NP-A Steady drip from the skylight in my studio (somewhere around 45 BPM) on 10/2/02 8:56 AM, nyroman at nyro_in_detroit@sbcglobal.net wrote: > Hi Bob, Kakki and all, > > Well I've landed back in Detroit after a three month stint in Los > Angeles. Employment was not to be had, and I have some personal issues > to resolve, so I'm back in the Motor City again for awhile, and just > rejoined the list last night. > > Oooh that Kakki! I must tell you all that while I was in Los Angeles my > one accomplishment was the ability to sing live at many different > venues, which gave me the most joy I've had in years. I managed to meet > pianists who were at least able to play "Both Sides Now" so I did > perform that song quite a bit, to appreciative crowds. At one venue > there was a lady in the back singing along ever so softly! I managed to > have one performance videotaped by a friend, but have yet to actually > see it (shudder). As well, my one super bonus to being in Los Angeles > was the opportunity to spend some wonderful evenings with Kakki. She is > the most intelligent, supportive, sensitive and beautiful woman I've > ever met and I miss her and our weekly meetings at the Red Lion > tremendously!! However, while I was there I did play for her some of my > old tunes from a compilation recording of mine I call "Dust From The > Shelves." She spilled the beans on my "Carnival In Kenora" version that > was recorded in, I believe 1972, when I was just a baby!! I sound like > a little boy, and am not sure I find it worthy for the covers > collection. I'll take a hesitant listen again and see how I feel about > it. > > Anyway, it's great to be back on the list, and thank you all for being > here. My heartfelt thanks again to Kakki for making my stay in Los > Angeles so very wonderful. It wouldn't have been that way without you > Kakki! > My sincere thanks to Bob for his good friendship and supportive e-mails > while I was struggling in the city of the fallen angels too! > > Best, > > Gary Zack ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2002 23:02:28 -0700 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: The dreaded Hatbox! Jack I am with you on this one. I loved it and still do. Altho I have not framed my artwork (someone was suppose to do it for me for a present but hasn9t as of yet) and I really can't cause I am all thumbs when it comes to tools and such. I loved the little pics that came in the promo of NRH cd as well. My aim is to get all this art up on my walls, but there is that part about humping them off to the framer over "you know whos" dead body and that can be SO messy! Best Paz NP-Banquet-JM Norman Ok. 6-29-83 (thanks Bob) on 10/2/02 11:04 AM, Merk54@aol.com at Merk54@aol.com wrote: > I must be the only one in the universe that actually didn't mind the dreaded > hatbox - aside from the fact that the CD was damaged - which in my case the CD > crapped out in the middle of ACOY which was pretty freakin' awful. But as far > as the concept itself, I kind of enjoyed it, especially the mini copies of the > artworks and the lyric sheets. > > Jack ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 00:11:03 EDT From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Now Joni's Songs for Aging Baby Boomers Ricw1217@aol.com writes: << Leo Sayer - "You Make Me Feel Like Napping" >> LOL! YOU make me feel like doing a few Joni songs for aging boomers! Little Gray False Teeth That Whistle Not Too Lame How Do You Stoop CPR On a Hill Turbulent Agida Passion Pill Slouching Towards Bathrooms Ray's Last Heart Attack Dental Crown Aches and Bladders Help Me, I've Fallen and I Can't Get Up The Three Great Denture Mints A Case of Poo The Blonde in the Depends My Secret Pacemaker Liver People's Potties Surgery Is the Best Face Lift Nothing Can Be Gummed Stool Water Harry's Couch Big Yellow Stain And my favorite . . . Urge for Going! --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 21:14:51 -0700 From: "Russell Bowden" Subject: FW: Blasphemy?? JC - ----- Original Message ----- From: Russell Bowden To: mailto:joni@smoe.org Sent: 10/2/02 11:33:38 AM Subject: Blasphemy?? JC Gang, AFter 2 years of contemplation re: BSN, I submit this late review. I bought BSN the day it came out. The first few hearings were exciting (because it was new Joni). Shortly after the initial thrill (and the concert at the Concord Pavillion) I started to get the uneasy feeling that Our Queen's rendering of such great classics was actually quite flat, emotionally. This realization has unsettled the very foundations upon which my slavish devotion for Joni rests! Her own 2 numbers are quite wonderful, but the standards (to me) are practically void of any of the humor, irony or despair that the songs require. The great songs that have been so well represented by so many singers of the last 75 years sound like a bucket of dead fish coming from Our Lady of Du, Tri-Quad, etc., -ality. Put the guns down, folks! I'm saying her versions fell WAY short of my expectaions.....it was like she was reading a very dry facts and figures scrawl. With 'Travelogue' looming ever larger on our musical horizon, my hopes are high...based on the tunes of her own she that she sang on the BSN tour (FTR, Hejira, Be Cool, etc.). My expectaions are shaky...is she going to have any voice left? Is TTT going to be her swansong as far as new material is concerned? Perhaps I just need to have my medicaiton increased or I'm suffering from a hopefully brief brain fart. BTW a 45 year old recording of Maria Callas' 'La Boheme' goes for $32 (2 CD set) If someone can point out the error of my mad thinking, I would appreciate it. Love, Russ - --- Russell Bowden - --- russbowden@earthlink.net - --- EarthLink: It's your Internet. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2002 23:44:12 -0700 From: Michael Paz Subject: Demolition some joni content This was posted on one of the Ryan Adams lists and I thought you might find it interesting esp. about song two. Best Paz << From October's Uncut an interview with Ryan Adams where he talks through each track on Demolition: 1.Nuclear "The songs on the album come from five different sessions and in effect they were five different albums,so I'm still holding onto a lot of tracks."Nuclear"comes from a session in Nashville with The Pink Hearts,recorded after Gold.But the song was written in LA.It's a reaction to meeting someone pretty intense.It's a song about change" 2.Hallelujah "That's from a session I called 48 Hours which was recorded straight after I'd finished Gold.I called Ethan Johns and said I'd got more songs I needed to record.I thought I had a whole other record."Hallelujah"was written when I was living in the Hollywood Roosevelt Hotel.I was looking for a way to express a bunch of crap I'd been dealing with and "Hallelujah"was the happy accident that came out.I finished the lyrics seconds before I recorded it.It's vague but to the point" 3.You Will Always Be The Same "The best song ever written about Beth Orton.And I've written several.I was in Stockholm on tour with her,straight after we'd recorded "Brown Sugar"for the Uncut Rolling Stones CD.I recorded nine songs in one session while we were there and this was on of them.I was listening to Nick Drake and Joni Mitchell and a lot of stuff like that.I think the sentiment is lovely.What I was saying was that the world can get fucked up as hell,but you will always mean the same thing to me" 4.Desire "I don't know why I wanted to do that song.Another totally unrequited romance,I guess.I really wanted someone's company and attention.In true singer-songwriter bullshit fashion I recorded the song and she flipped her wig.It's from 48 Hours session,which was really inspired by going to see Alanis Morissette play.She was amazing and it just made me feel I had to go back to the studio and try harder" 5. Cry On Demand "That's from a session I call The Suicide Handbooks,which was me and Bucky Baxter.It's a very mean song and I really shouldn't have written it.Mmmm.Let's move on..." 6.Starting To Hurt "It was recorded in Nashville with The Pink Hearts.Billy Mercer had told me this story about a woman jumping off a building.We were out in Nashville having a few beers because that's all there is to do there and Billy said"That's the building"She'd gone up to the top,handed someone her baby and jumped.I had the riff but no words to the song ,so I tried to put myself into her character.You can't begin to imagine how she must have been feeling but I tried" 7.She Wants To Play Hearts "My favourite song on the album and from The Suicide Handbooks.The songs from that might have been the follow-up to Heartbreaker,but I didn't want to be the bummer king,so I made Gold instead.Now I want to be the bummer king again,because someone's got to do it.A lot of the songs from that session are about a girl in Hollywood.It was a painful break-up,so I went back to Nashville,lost weight,took too many drugs and wrote that song.It's about missing someone and maybe missing myself." 8.Tennessee Sucks "That song is about Tennessee really sucking.Ha!!It sucks in the summer,worse even than New York.It's not only hot but really humid.Even the beer doesn't help you.I wrote it as a gag.It's from the second of The Pink Heart sessions on the record,with Bucky playing some really fucked-up Paul Simon guitar shit that I don't know what is.There's another song on the same subject called "Saturday Night"that almost made the record." 9.Dear Chicago "Another from The Suicide Handbooks and another heavy song.I wasn't sure about love any more.It's reflecting on the same thing I always do-past romance.It's saying I think I've fallen out of love with you and I'm feeling good about it.I'm free.For a second." 10.Gimme A Sign "Written the day before I met Ms Winona Ryder.She was passing through,I was fooling about in the studio with The Pink Hearts.That's how I remember it.It was a really good week.I think I wrote it about an American sit-com about vampires called Dark Shadows.But I don't remember too well.When The Pink Hearts are around a lot of pot tends to get smoked." 11.Tomorrow "I wrote that with a friend of mine,a playwright called Kerry Hamilton,who has since died of cancer.I was living in Room 1034 at the Hollywood Roosevelt,and it was written the day before she was going back to Colarado.It was the last time I was to see Kerry healthy.I'm still going through it and haven't been able to touch it in a song." 12.Chin up,Cheer Up "It's bluegrass meets The Smiths.Kind of .The chord changes are Johnny Marr-and I'm still studying that guy.I'd been in England just before I wrote it,so it must be about someoneunnamed from England who is a better songwriter than I am.You know who I mean." 13.Jesus(Don't Touch My Baby) "Written about the same subject as "Tomorrow".My California phase was actually quite creative.That was when I found out that my friend was sick.It was during a Pink Hearts session and I was so upset I kicked them all out of the studio.But I started playing around with the drum machine and this came out.Think I'd been listening to too much Radiohead when I recorded it." It gets a 4 star review elsewhere in the mag which also includes a 4 page 'Mats article and stuff on The Jam and The Grateful Dead.The Jam are featured on the cover. All in all a must read. - ------ End of Forwarded Message ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 01:43:58 -0700 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Now Joni's Songs for Aging Baby Boomers You've really gone over the edge on this one. Mikey came in to see what the feck was going on and why daddy sounded like a hyena. Paz (still frothing at the mouth and reaching for another snort of Geritol on 10/2/02 9:11 PM, Murphycopy@aol.com at Murphycopy@aol.com wrote: > Ricw1217@aol.com writes: > > << Leo Sayer - "You Make Me Feel Like Napping" >> > > LOL! > > YOU make me feel like doing a few Joni songs for aging boomers! > > Little Gray > > False Teeth That Whistle > > Not Too Lame > > How Do You Stoop > > CPR On a Hill > > Turbulent Agida > > Passion Pill > > Slouching Towards Bathrooms > > Ray's Last Heart Attack > > Dental Crown > > Aches and Bladders > > Help Me, I've Fallen and I Can't Get Up > > The Three Great Denture Mints > > A Case of Poo > > The Blonde in the Depends > > My Secret Pacemaker > > Liver > > People's Potties > > Surgery Is the Best Face Lift > > Nothing Can Be Gummed > > Stool Water > > Harry's Couch > > Big Yellow Stain > > And my favorite . . . > > Urge for Going! > > --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2002 23:58:55 -0700 From: "J. G." Subject: Diana Krall: Live In Paris (definite JC) Hey all- Just picked up Diana Krall's latest CD, 'Live In Paris.' It was out on DVD not too long in a more complete presentation of this concert, but this CD works really well. For those who have been looking for something other than a bootleg/transfer/MP3 of "A Case Of You" look no further. The version here is a slower, but fantastic. Score another one for this talented lady... - -Jerome _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2002 #288 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)