From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2002 #275 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Sunday, September 22 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 275 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Today's Library Links: September 21 [ljirvin@adelphia.net] CLARIFY DJRD COMMENT [Cactustree78@aol.com] Re: "Produced by Joni Mitchell" [Richard Goldman Subject: Re: "Produced by Joni Mitchell" At 3:00 AM -0400 9/21/02, JMDL Digest wrote: > >Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 01:14:58 -0400 >From: "Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lama\)" >Subject: "Produced by Joni Mitchell" > >In many interviews, she's said that she "doesn't know what the word means". >Sometimes she says that she generally doesn't work with "outside" producers >'cause she doesn't "want someone ELSE'S brush strokes" on her canvas. > >That said, I wouldn't be the first person to notice that she gave some >people a great amount of creative freedom to move around within her canvas. >Jaco for example at the very begining of "Sweet Sucker Dance". Just before >her vocal starts, he put this figure in that practically steps on her. Most >people wouldn't have left that in there but it really builds tension in a >jazz way. There's no way (in my opinion anyway) that a rock bassist like >John Entwistle would have stepped into that particular space. It says >oceans about Joni's thirst to collaborate in those days, and about the fact >that she had some really, really wonderful players with her. > >Maybe there's chapter to be written called "Joni's sidemen". Hmmmmm. >Stills, jt, Shorter, Erskine, Blade, Hancock, Jaco, Larry, shit! That's >just for starters! > >Lama Brilliant collaboration, it seems to me. Brilliant in the direction of genius. Richard in San Francisco n.p. Doug Echols spinning live on WPKN-FM, 89.5 FM in Bridgeport, CT, http://www.wpkn.org live feed... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 08:13:22 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: CLARIFY DJRD COMMENT **A lil while back i posted saying that DJRD was better on vinyl than cd....Well i think im gonna have to retract that statement...** Well, you can't lose either way, Kev, that's for sure. I find that DJRD is not a cd I put on as background. It always seems to demand my full attention. With the LP, it was sometimes nice to be able to break from each side, merely to digest it all - especially PP. With the cd, it all keeps coming which is pretty awesome as well. Oh yeah, I dig it a lot too! :~) Bob NP: Joni, "DED", Rock Master Class ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 10:00:52 EDT From: SMC1254@aol.com Subject: Re: produced by Joni Mitchell I agree wholeheartedly agree with you except I don't see James Taylor in that group. I wonder what Join thinks of his music. I find him so so boring. Stephen ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 11:57:59 EDT From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Patricia Barber (SJC) I just read a review on jazz musician Patricia Barber's new CD "Verse". I've heard people mention her before, but I'll have to give a listen to this one. "In a loose way" she says "VERSE is a Patricia Barber homage to Joni Mitchell" -the Joni Mitchell of 1976's "Hejira", Barber's favorite album from the legendary Canadian folksinger. I'm not sure how her music is, but she's got great taste! Happy Weekend, Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 12:54:33 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lama\)" Subject: re: revisiting dog eat dog Owen suggested that Joni redo the songs of "Dog Eat Dog" without... uhmmm.... how do I say this delicately...... without Thomas Dolby's overbearing, damnable, ham fisted production touches this time. :) (I couldn't figure out how to say it delicately.) Anyway, this sounds like a good idea but asking Our Lady of Duality to revisit old material was (until recently, ahem!) unlikely. It might be a neat project for Henning/Christina or our ex-patriot and studio-meister, Marcel, to tackle. The thing is though, how many among the general public would want to hear covers of an album that most disliked to begin with? Lama np: the radio, playing a (new?) Bonnie Raitt track that sounds like it came right off of Paul Simon's "Graceland", which Lama thinks is also a pretty good idea. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 00:39:46 EDT From: StDoherty@aol.com Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2002 #274 In a message dated 9/21/2002 3:01:23 AM Eastern Standard Time, les@jmdl.com writes: > Does anyone else agree that it would be a great (and not too time-consuming > or expensive) project for Joni to return to 'Dog Eat Dog' and, keeping the > original vocals, remaster it in a more timeless form? Just acoustic piano > and guitar on some of those songs would be delicious! I think DED would be > judged a lot more fairly were it more in keeping with the production of her > other work - I truly believe they're great songs but a lot of people cant > listen to them because of how they sound. I often sing them just myself and > piano - songs like 'the Three Great Stimulants' and 'Impossible Dreamer' > sound great this way. Joni probably wouldnt want to return to a finished > project, on the other hand she certainly seems to feel it deeply when one > of > her 'babies' doesnt get a fair run... well, its a shame she doesn't read > the > list (not that she'd listen to me Im sure!)! > Enough already. Dog Eat Dog's a fine recording without any revisitng. The songs' arrangements are fine. ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2002 #275 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)