From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2002 #219 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Wednesday, July 31 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 219 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Today's Library Links: July 30 [ljirvin@adelphia.net] Today in History: July 30 [ljirvin@adelphia.net] Re: Siquomb, isn't she? [Mags N Brei ] Siquomb [Chuck Eisenhardt ] Re: Siquomb, isn't she? [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: The Tension Mounts...On With the Body Count! [Jerry Notaro ] quick post with JC [MGVal@aol.com] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2002 #218 [Kate ] Re: Siquomb, isn't she? [Mary Casey ] Re: Joni in literature ["J.David Sapp" ] Wayne Shorter ["Jerry Notaro" ] Re: Wayne Shorter [Denny Giovanetti ] Re:Siquomb, isn't she? [WARREN901@aol.com] assorted musings on things joni... [WARREN901@aol.com] joni in school ["flopit" ] Re: assorted musings on things joni...now Nash [JRMCo1@aol.com] RE: Siquomb, isn't she? ["patrick leader" ] re: what song did Ruth hear in the wine store ["mia ortlieb" ] Re: assorted musings on things joni...now Nash [Michael Paz ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 03:16:10 -0400 From: ljirvin@adelphia.net Subject: Today's Library Links: July 30 On July 30 the following item was published: 1979: "Charles, Joni and the Circle Game" - Village Voice (Review - Album) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/790730vv.cfm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 03:16:10 -0400 From: ljirvin@adelphia.net Subject: Today in History: July 30 1983: Joni performs at the Red Rocks Amphitheater - in the foothills overlooking Denver - in the final concert of the 1983 tour. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 04:54:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Mags N Brei Subject: Re: Siquomb, isn't she? thanks for the great intro Mary. I guess the way to learn about 'us' is to keep reading and watch as the personalities take flight before you. It is a wonderful space to learn about all things Joni, which serves as a spring board to more than that. The NJC space seems to be where the life stories fall. I discovered Joni Mitchell while doing a late shift at a distress centre in small town Ontario years ago, and from there, my life has taken many a turn, with Joni at my side every step of the way. It is often said that the lyrics and music of Joni Mitchell can be seen as the sound track to a life, our life. Court and Spark was the first album of Joni's that I heard, and from there, I turned to Blue and Ladies of the Canyon. Not only will you receive the Joni education of a lifetime, you just never know who you will meet in Jmdl*land and how your life will change. again, a warm welcome to you, Mags, in South Jersey npimh: i am a canadian. ===== You open my heart, you do. Yes you do. - JM Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 07:56:41 -0400 From: Chuck Eisenhardt Subject: Siquomb 'SIQUOMB' was also the name of Joni's publishing entity for the first couple of albums, I believe. It morphed to 'Joni Mitchell Publishing Corp' for a awhile around the 'Blue' period, before she landed on 'Crazy Crow'. Hello to all, sorry I've been such a lurker. I've been chipping in on the NEFest 2002 list and am looking forward to that 'just a little'! ChuckE ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 08:29:01 -0400 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Siquomb, isn't she? > there's also a major cover > album that i think was finished a long time ago and for > some reason it > hasn't been released. The "some reason" may be the fact that Reprise is run by idiots with their corporate thumbs up their 'you-know-where's, but not to despair...new Joni Mitchell tributes come out every month - Volume 32 is just days away! And the "countdown to 1000" rolls on, drawing ever closer with: #999, Pat Valentino, "Chelsea Morning" Time to start chilling the champagne! ;~) Bob NP: Bruce Springsteen, "Meeting Across The River" 9/19/78 ("The Rising" comes out today - Whoo-Hoo!!) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 08:29:34 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: The Tension Mounts...On With the Body Count! SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: > #998 Micki Esselstyn, "Both Sides Now", from her International best-seller > "Micki Esselstyn Sings"...this poor person looks like one of the Kids In The > Hall in drag: And sounds worse. YIKES! Jerry NW: Bruce on the Today show. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 08:31:42 -0400 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Siquomb > 'SIQUOMB' was also the name of Joni's publishing entity for the first couple > of albums, I believe. It morphed to 'Joni Mitchell Publishing Corp' for a > awhile around the 'Blue' period, before she landed on > 'Crazy Crow'. True, and before SIQUOMB it was GANDALF Publishing, at least I've seen that listed on some of the early cover LP's. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 08:40:20 -0400 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: The Tension Mounts...On With the Body Count! > And sounds worse. YIKES! Well, as those who've been on the "Covers" ride since the beginning can attest, never let lack of talent stop you from recording a Joni song! :~) Bob NP: Jungle Land 9/19/78 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 08:48:56 EDT From: Kardinel@aol.com Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2002 #305 I read the biography of Joni Mitchell by Karen O'Brien. I got it up in Canada. I have to say I was disappointed with it. It really didn't convey to me who Joni Mitchell is. I guess that is the trouble with bios when the person is living. A biographer doesn't have access to letters and papers and friends aren't able to be forthcoming. I found there wasn't a lot of detail. Most of the information wasn't new and it wasn't all that well written. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 08:50:51 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Siquomb, isn't she? Mary Casey wrote: > Other musical artists currently in frequent rotation for me are: Neil > Finn, Meshell Ndegeocello, Rickee Lee Jones, Lucinda Williams, Janis Ian, > David Gray. I am always interested in learning of new singer/songwriter > music that awakens my spirit. Well, Mary you've definitely found kin folks here. They are mentioned here often as favorites of many listers. Bob Muller turned me on to Ed Harcourt a while back, and he opened for Neil Finn recently in NYC. Jerry Still Playing: Bruce on Today ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 09:09:45 -0400 From: MGVal@aol.com Subject: quick post with JC Things have finally quieted down around here so I can participate a wee bit. I gave up and deleted the bazillion pieces of email sitting in my AOL account that have built up over the past few months and am starting fresh from the most recent digest. (1) Joni Content as measly as it is first: While at the gym, I was flipping through last week's issue of either Entertainment Weekly, US, People or Accounting Review Daily, (who can keep 'em straight), and noticed a "celebrity look alike" section. They put Aimee Mann down as morphing into Joni Mitchell, using the photo of JM taken from the Last Waltz with her guitar, burgundy danskin, wrap skirt and thunderhead necklace. Even without my glasses, that picture of Joni caught my eye right off the bat. (2)Newcomer Mary Casey writes: > I am a graphic designer in Sacramento, California. Very Groovy! Not many, (that I know of), list members in the capitol area. I live in Davis and work just outside Sacramento. Been here for 9'ish years. (3) Ongoing discussion about TIPS: The luck of the draw has me spending a fair amount of time with a group of fairly conservative people. Their stance on this is: "if you have nothing to hide then what's the issue?" And sadly, I think that is a common enough sentiment with silent majority like folks. Personally, I am not a big fan of displaying the flag. If most of my neighbors have one out, am I report-worthy for that transgression? What if I simply can't afford to buy one or am too inept to get one hanging from my front porch? By the time that comes to light, what legal and pesonal expenses have I racked up to defend myself? Or will there be more subtle consequences? As Kakki said, it's a bad and dumb idea and we can come up with a better one. (4) Bruce!!!!!!!! I have tickets to the August 27th show in San Jose! Anyone else on the list going to see the Boss? MG ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 08:33:46 -0600 From: Kate Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2002 #218 In a novel by Timothy Findley, called Spadeworks, a character is dying of an overdose and Both Sides Now comes on the radio. If I remember correctly. Sheet. Meant to write it down at the time, but... Kate ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 08:14:20 -0700 From: Mary Casey Subject: Re: Siquomb, isn't she? Ed Harcourt also opened for Neil Finn at he Fillmore in San Francisco at the beginning of this month. He was great! Jerry Notaro wrote: > Mary Casey wrote: > > > Other musical artists currently in frequent rotation for me are: Neil > > Finn, Meshell Ndegeocello, Rickee Lee Jones, Lucinda Williams, Janis Ian, > > David Gray. I am always interested in learning of new singer/songwriter > > music that awakens my spirit. > > Well, Mary you've definitely found kin folks here. They are mentioned here > often as favorites of many listers. Bob Muller turned me on to Ed Harcourt a > while back, and he opened for Neil Finn recently in NYC. > > Jerry > > Still Playing: Bruce on Today ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 11:28:16 -0500 From: "J.David Sapp" Subject: Re: Joni in literature <<>> i'm thinkig Yvette In English from TI. peace, david ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 14:33:24 -0400 From: "Jerry Notaro" Subject: Wayne Shorter Wayne Shorter's new cd, Footprints Live (with Brian Blade) got a 4 star review from the new Sound and Vision. Jerry np: Dusty Springfield - Quiet Please There Is a Lady On Stage (Royal Albert Hall 1979) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 12:45:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Denny Giovanetti Subject: Re: Wayne Shorter "Jerry Notaro" wrote: >Wayne Shorter's new cd, Footprints Live (with Brian Blade) got a 4 star >review from the new Sound and Vision. And 5 stars in downbeat (and, so far, six straight days on my cd player). Also, great review in Tower's Pulse (4 stars). GREAT selections, band performances--and cd! Denny ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 16:08:58 EDT From: WARREN901@aol.com Subject: Re:Siquomb, isn't she? greetings mary and welcome to the list ! i'm glad you have joined us ! i may seem a bit late with my welcome but i have good reason, i'm on the ' joni only digest ' and receive the posts the day after they were written,delayed so they can be sorted as to joni content. i'm fairly new to the list, a little under a year, but joni and i go back some thirty odd years. ( i didn't know what siquomb was either until i joined the list !) anyway...welcome. i hope you will find the list as rewarding as i have, i have learned alot of new things in my short time among the faithful here on the list. ( i hope i have shared some worthwhile things too ! ) have you visited our sister site the joni mitchell homepage ? if not i beleive there is a link from JMDL, i actually found the list through a link from the homepage.give it a visit and see what you think... jonily yours, warren keith p.s. sit back and enjoy the ride ! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 17:01:05 EDT From: WARREN901@aol.com Subject: assorted musings on things joni... hello purveyors of all things joni !!! i recently decided to listen to the entire joni catalog back-to-back in chronological order. i thought it would be of interest to hear the progression of her music over the years since her 1968 release of STAS. i proceed to load the first six in my magazine and took it out to my beetle.it is five days later and i am stuck with my head in the " clouds." i had not heard clouds in a while and i guess i was in dire need of a listening. i had forgotten how altogether lovely it is, and so many memories flooded in... the ability of my mind to remember thirty-three year old lyrics when i can't remember what i had for dinner last night never cease to amaze me !!! what a wonderful collection of songs. ' i think i understand ' is truly astonding, and ' roses blue ' really blows me away. i have always been partial to ' that song about the midway,' and at the risk of being burned at the stake for heresy, i will say i believe i like bonnie raitt's version just a wee bit more than joni's. how powerful is joni's a cappella ' the fiddle and the drum' ... i guess you get the point huh ? at this rate it may take me several months to get through them all, maybe even years ! i think tomarrow i will move on to LOTC. ( don't even get me started, this is the album that introduced me to joni in 1970 ! ) i'll let ya'll know when i've move on to " blue," but don't hold your breath... oh, before i leave, it strikes me that james taylor has always referred to our goddess as joan, i also believe graham nash does too. i have a friend who lived in hollywood until recently and i remember her relating once that a friend of her's,i think his name was rocky, was working with joni on a video from NRH. he was a regular bowling buddy of joni's and he too called her joan, looks as if the evidence is mounting... in joan we trust, warren keith p.s. speaking of graham nash... A&E's biography tonight is on the bloke, i personally think there is going to be a joni mention ! later... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 23:07:28 -0700 From: "flopit" Subject: joni in school just came across a "virtual school" using the circlle game for a lesson... http://www.nsd61.org/VirtualSchool/Courses/Eng33/Lessons/Unit4_1.html i kind of like the quote: "These life passages have been the subject of many kinds of creative work. One of the best all-time examples is the classic song "The Circle Game" by Canadian artist Joni Mitchell. " & they even have a link to an audio file. now - thats what i call education :-) ron np - pete o'connel - dizzy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 18:13:08 -0400 From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: Re: assorted musings on things joni...now Nash warren writes: I'm thinking there will be JC, too. By the way, Graham Nash's solo CD _Songs for Survivors_ is being released today on Artemis records. It was produced by Russell Kunkel, who is widower to Nicolette Larson, and their son. Nash will be touring behind the CD starting in September. Kakki is going to go crazy over his touring band: Kunkel on drums Jeff Pevar (of Crosby's band CPR) - guitar Dean Parks - Guitar Larry Klein (Joni's ex-husband) - bass James Raymond (CPR)- keyboards and "Others" - -Julius ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 19:44:18 -0400 From: "patrick leader" Subject: RE: Siquomb, isn't she? >Hi Patrick, >Where do you live now? Are you still dancing? I live really close >to Sac State. >Small world, eh? > i've been in new york city since '86. love it to death, even with what we've been through. i danced (performed and choreographed) here for about 10 years, still take class though i'm definitely in retirement and another career. >About the early 80's albums: I have Wild Things Run Fast and Dog >Eat Dog. (Are >there more early 80's?) nope, that's it, and i think they're the two weakest albums of her career. i respect them, i think they were part of her growth. i love, love 'chalkmark' (later '80s) though others on the list might disagree. i also think she and larry couldn't have done NRH, which is BRILLIANTLY produced (and i love good production) if they hadn't made the '80s album. VERY partial to Hejira and >Hissing of >Summer Lawns. Blue goes without saying, doesn't it? > and yet always worth saying again. all three, actually. glad to have you aboard, mary. patrick np - fauri - sonata in a major, op. 15 (transcribed for flute and piano) galway and o'riley ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 21:08:13 -0500 From: "mia ortlieb" Subject: re: what song did Ruth hear in the wine store I would guess that Ruth heard "Yvette in English" from TI. This song is a very close cousin to "The Only Joy in Town" in my own head. Ruth, if you don't have TURBULENT INDIGO yet, you must buy it soon! It is such a wonderful album! Mia -npimh, Yvette in English (of course) _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 22:45:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: The Tension Mounts...On With the Body Count! - --- SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: > Well, as those who've been on the "Covers" ride > since the beginning can attest, never let lack of > talent stop you from recording a Joni song! :~) > Good. That means there's still hope for some of us who would like an exciting second career. ______________________________________________________________________ Post your ad for free now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 22:55:33 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Break Out the King Cobra!! 1000 it is! Well, we made it! Thanks to alert jazzlover & dedicated Joni coverhound Joseph Palis, we hit the major 1000 milestone with: "Twisted" by Stella Ignacio, from "Jazzette" - 1996 "FOUL!!" You cry... "OFF WITH HIS HEAD" shouts the angry mob... "JONI DIDN'T WRITE TWISTED" offers the scoffing purist...to which the VP of Covers responds: Well, this is true...BUT Stella has stated that Joni was her inspiration for this recording, and indeed you can tell it when the muted trumpet sounds at the start all the way to the multi-tracked vocals at the end. This one is PURE Joni cover! (The mob backs down, lowers their torches and disperses peacefully...) Thanks Joseph for being my ears & eyes in the Pacific rim! And a MAJOR thanks to all who have helped me identify & collect all this information and music - we can give ourselves a well-deserved hand! Now on to the next 1000 (but don't worry, I shant bore you with the count)...until we get to 1990! ;~) Bob NP: Tracey Campbell, "Big Yellow Taxi" (awesome sultry jazz piano version) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 22:57:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Break Out the King Cobra!! 1000 it is! - --- SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: > Well, we made it! Thanks to alert jazzlover & > dedicated Joni coverhound > Joseph Palis, we hit the major 1000 milestone with: > > "Twisted" by Stella Ignacio, from "Jazzette" - 1996 > Way to go, millenium man! I hope you didn't have to celebrate alone but shared the goodies with your family. ______________________________________________________________________ Post your ad for free now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 21:05:25 -0700 From: "kakki" Subject: Re: assorted musings on things joni...now Nash Julius, I am a swoo-hooning in anticipation! Just ordered the Graham and Julia back to back. The pre-buzz on Graham's new one was ecstatic months ago. I had no idea Larry shows up there, too!! Wonder if Joni is also on an uncredited harmony vocal? ;-) Kakki > Kunkel on drums > Jeff Pevar (of Crosby's band CPR) - guitar > Dean Parks - Guitar > Larry Klein (Joni's ex-husband) - bass > James Raymond (CPR)- keyboards > and "Others" > > -Julius ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 21:18:55 -0700 From: "kakki" Subject: Re: Break Out the King Cobra!! 1000 it is! Congratulations, Bob!! Don't have any King Cobra on hand but I'm sure my glass of cheapo COSTCO special White Zinfandel will do just as nicely ;-) It's just amazing to think that you and the group have succeeded in digging up and cataloging 1,000 Joni covers from all over the world! You can bet no one else has accomplished this! Also, thank you so much for the latest volumes 31 and 32 - they are excellent and surprising as ever. Kakki NP: Covers 32- Harpers Bizarre - Both Sides Now (this is really a treasure for me - go ahead and laugh but their "59th Street Bridge Song - Feelin Groovy" is still one of my all time faves - they were kind of like a cross between the Association and the Beach Boys but with a lot more paisley ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 00:42:10 -0700 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: assorted musings on things joni...now Nash OH FECK! I am headed to Tower tomorrow to get that, the new Robert Plant, the new Yes box set, and and and Yippie Paz on 7/30/02 3:13 PM, JRMCo1@aol.com at JRMCo1@aol.com wrote: > warren writes: > personally think there is going to be a joni mention ! later...> > > I'm thinking there will be JC, too. > > By the way, Graham Nash's solo CD _Songs for Survivors_ is being released > today on Artemis records. It was produced by Russell Kunkel, who is widower > to Nicolette Larson, and their son. > > Nash will be touring behind the CD starting in September. Kakki is going to > go crazy over his touring band: > > Kunkel on drums > Jeff Pevar (of Crosby's band CPR) - guitar > Dean Parks - Guitar > Larry Klein (Joni's ex-husband) - bass > James Raymond (CPR)- keyboards > and "Others" > > -Julius ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 08:14:48 -0700 From: "flopit" Subject: scientists prove it - joni was right!!! hi ive just been reading through "the science of discworld" by terry pratchet, ian stewart, & jack cohen. its kind of scientific (i actually wouldnt know if they were really taking the piss) & has a chapter called "we are stardust (or at least we went to woodstock) where they give this whole long technical spiel about the different elements, and the periodic table, and how the elements came into being as a result of the big bang, and the effect of the reaction in stars. (definitely the most technical book ive read since i stopped studying) i quote "Anyway the point is that most of the atoms from which you are made must have come into being in a star. As Joni Mitchell sang at woodstock: "We are stardust"." there is a footnote which says "Ask Mummy or Daddy if you have no idea what were talking about" So now that the scientists know that Joni is siquomb, maybe someone (mummy or daddy???) will explain to them about her never quite making it to woodstock (tho personally i think shes been in her own private garden for quite some time....) ron np - pete o'connell - barrett (sounds like its about syd??) (albums like this are why i *love* 2nd hand shops. bought it cause it looked interesting - & it sure is!!!) ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2002 #219 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)