From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2002 #207 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Friday, July 19 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 207 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Today in History: July 18 [ljirvin@adelphia.net] Re: Today in History: July 18 [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Amelia [Jerry Notaro ] Jonifest [AsharaProducLLC@aol.com] The Dancing Wu Li Masters ["Erica Trudelle" ] Jonatha Brooke tix for sale (at a discount!) [Lori in MD ] Amelia's sister - a true story [Murphycopy@aol.com] Re: The Dancing Wu Li Masters [dsk ] WOW!!!!!!!!! *Very* Cool Raffle items!! [AsharaProducLLC@aol.com] Re: sports [Randy Remote ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 03:03:16 -0400 From: ljirvin@adelphia.net Subject: Today in History: July 18 1983: Joni performs at the Fingerlakes Performing Arts Center in Canadaigua, New York ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 07:42:10 -0400 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Today in History: July 18 > 1983: Joni performs at the Fingerlakes Performing Arts > Center in Canadaigua, New York Boy. and was THIS ever a good show! Her performance of Woodstock that night was simply transcendent, with the whole house clapping and in synch with each other, and Joni just keeps jammin' on that riff, and it sends chills up my spine every time I hear it. And a big howdy to the GOOFBALL that was actually there that night, you lucky dawg! ;~) Bob NP: Patti SMith, "spell" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 08:37:32 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Amelia Victor Johnson wrote: > Funny you mention Amelia...I played it last night at an open mic and it was > an unreal experience...I can't think of any other song that comes close to > it...it seems to really cross the line and become more than just a song, a > transcending experience reaching into the very heart of life itself...the > lyrics especially... > > We were talking about it today and agreed that it is one of the best songs > ever written. Synchronicity... When Victor and Holly visited me 2 weeks ago Victor treated me with songs of his and Joni's. He sang Amelia for me as a preview for Jonifest. He performs it as well as it is written. Most of us believe this song represents Joni's song writing at its zenith. You Jonifest attendees are in for a real treat. Jerry np: Judy Collins - Barbara Allen ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 08:44:12 EDT From: AsharaProducLLC@aol.com Subject: Jonifest Well, we are now *down to the wire* with only 37 days left to go before Jonifest! It's hard to believe it's so close! Just a few reminders: There are still a few beds left for Jonifest, and plenty of camping space. It would be great to know as soon as possible if you are interested in going however, as I really need to wrap everything up and have final numbers very soon. Also, I will be away from July 23-August 8 so it would be great to know before I leave on Tuesday. If you are attending, please make sure you have completely filled out all the online forms, sent a release form, and you should have all your money in by now. I especially need to know if anyone needs a ride from the bus stop to Full Moon, and whether there are any special dietary needs. Anyone wanting to contribute to the raffle, please send your items as soon as possible to: Ashara Productions, LLC 40 Parsonage Lane Topsfield, MA 01983 Please e-mail me with any questions before Tuesday. See you VERY soon!! With Jonifest anticipation and hugs, Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 09:25:31 -0400 From: "Erica Trudelle" Subject: The Dancing Wu Li Masters My husband and I are "co-reading" this book right now (The Dancing Wu Li Masters).....we just came across a section about the wondrously inconceivable narure of the universe, how as a cog in the wheel we are part of the motion, part of the dance, no separation, how wisdom guides you further than knowlegde. Compassionate intuition soars much closer to truth. I think the difference between wisdom and knowledge is important to ponder. Well......In most of my conversations I can relate the topic back to a Joni lyric and sure enough this time was no exception. "No one knows, They can never get that close..Guesses as most." I know that "Sweetbird" has been analyzed many many times but I just have to add my 2 cents. This line has been ringing in my head for DAYS now. I was just wondering if anyone else has read this book? I am not trying to bring up "Sweetbird" discussions of old....just had a Joni moment I wanted to share :) Erica NP: The fuzzing static of the baby monitor........... _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 07:06:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Lori in MD Subject: Jonatha Brooke tix for sale (at a discount!) I know a guy in Arlington who has a pair of tickets for Saturday night's show at Wolf Trap in Vienna, VA: Eddie from Ohio, with Jonatha Brooke opening. (http://www.wolftrap.org/performances/show072002.html) They're box seats, row 16, seats 8 and 9. (The view from there: http://www.wolftrap.org/performances/seatviews/box10.html) Originally $26 each, he's willing to let them go for $16 apiece. Let me know if you're interested. Lori ~ Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:08:46 -0400 From: Bob Shemkovitz Subject: Re: \White Sox fans and Joni >>> someone else posts that Joni is the best lyricist ever and to prove that >>> he posts the words to Amelia! >>> >>> Vince >>> >>> >> Funny you mention Amelia...I played it last night at an open mic and it was >> an unreal experience...I can't think of any other song that comes close to >> it...it seems to really cross the line and become more than just a song, a >> transcending experience reaching into the very heart of life itself...the >> lyrics especially... >> >> We were talking about it today and agreed that it is one of the best songs >> ever written. Synchronicity... >> >> Victor >> >> > I remember the first time I heard it, I was on the coast listening > to a car radio, and there was this song...but the radio was coming > in so poorly, I couldn't tell whether it was Joni or Paul Simon. > > RR > > > Beautifully described!! I'm glad that you do it because there are so many > people out there who have never heard it.(people need to hear it) I'd love > to hear your rendition sometime! > > Bree > > I'm loving this thread. Just a little envious of RR for being in a car when hearing Amelia for the first time - can't think of anything more appropriate than that, other than being in a 747! I can remember when I first heard this song, too, checking out Hejira for the first time on a Saturday morning while painting in my tiny studio. Amelia comes on and everything else just stops. Of course, I'd had that experience with Joni so many times before - with I Had A King and Cactus Tree and Rainy Night House and Circle Game and Woman Of Heart And Mind and... But Amelia was something else again. Seven verses of transcendent poetry, with every beautiful turn of phrase working on so many levels - from the biographical to the universal. Joni gives voice to all the joys and harms we find along the way during the travelogues of our lives, our flights of ecstasy on those beautiful foolish arms of Icarus, ascending to the clouds or being swallowed by the sea, whichever fate chooses... Lyricist, melodicist, vocalist, guitarist, siquomb indeed... Bob ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 13:34:51 EDT From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Amelia's sister - a true story All this talk about one of Joni's greatest songs, along with the discussion about kids these days, made me think of my high school years . . . when I was assigned to Amelia's sister's sixth-period study hall! After a lifetime working as an English teacher in my hometown's school system, Muriel Earhart ("Ma") Morrisey was in her last year of teaching when I was a sophomore in the late 60s. Mrs. Morrisey had reached the mandatory retirement age of 70 by then and was a favorite of the kids who had her for various junior- and senior-level advanced placement English courses. She was also the author of a couple of books about her famous sister, her only sibling. Although she was she was respected and beloved by generations of people who passed through the town's school system, the hooligans of sixth-period study hall were another story. And I was one of them! The study hall was held in the science amphitheater, so the rows of desks sloped upwards from Ma Morrisey's desk. (This was in the old high school; the new high school, from which I graduated, is now 31 years old -- Yikes!) Now, I don't know what's the matter with kids *these* days, but the students in this study hall were as cruel as any I've heard of since, although we were, fortunately, unarmed! And we weren't underprivileged gang members, either. At the time, my town's school system was considered one of the best, if not *the* best, in Massachusetts. A favorite prank was to sit at one of the upper desks at the rear of the amphitheater, make a paper airplane and send it sailing down to Mrs. Morrisey at the front of the room while shouting, "Here comes Amelia!" By the time the airplane crashed into the blackboard behind Mrs. Morrisey, the offending student -- always a boy -- would have his head innocently buried in a book. Even though I am known for having a dark sense of humor, I could never bring myself to be this cruel to Ma. I liked her. My contribution to the general mayhem was to use my God-given ability to sneeze on command 20 or 30 times in a row! Aside from most of the cruel Amelia stuff that happened in this class, I had some of the best laughs -- and gave some of the best performances -- of my life there. When students were caught misbehaving, Ma would get up from her desk, put her hands on her hips and croak in an old-lady voice, "Stand in the corner." My friend Frank, who is still one of my best friends, had the uncanny ability to imitate her "Stand in the corner" exactly, so he spent a lot of time in the corner before his parents put him into a private school at the end of sophomore year. Ma was a tough woman; I never saw her lose her cool, no matter how rough things got. The poor thing must have been counting the days until she was free from adolescents at last, and probably wondering, "What's the matter with kids these days . . . " I don't know whatever happened to Mrs. Morrisey, but if she is still alive she is over 100 years old now. I know at that she wrote at least one of her books about Amelia during her retirement. Every time I see a photograph of young Amelia in her aviator gear I am stuck by her resemblance to the 70-year-old woman I knew. And whenever I hear someone ask what's the matter with kids these days, I always think of what we put poor Ma through, and that there's probably nothing at all wrong with kids in any age; most of them are just naughty -- and often downright mean! -- by nature. --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 15:42:33 -0400 From: dsk Subject: Re: The Dancing Wu Li Masters Erica Trudelle wrote: > > My husband and I are "co-reading" this book right now (The Dancing Wu Li > Masters).....we just came across a section about the wondrously > inconceivable narure of the universe, ... > "No one knows, They can never get that close..Guesses as most." > I know that "Sweetbird" has been analyzed many many times but I just have to > add my 2 cents. This line has been ringing in my head for DAYS now. I was > just wondering if anyone else has read this book? Yes, it was one of my favorites back in college, 25 years ago, along with Carlos Castenada's books and "Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance". They were very popular books at the time and I think they all had an influence on Joni. What I recall mostly about the Dancing Wu Li Masters and its description of then-current discoveries in physics is that there's no such thing as pure objectivity, that the outcome of any experiment depends on the observer. Different observer, possibly different outcome, even in controlled experiments. That realization had repercussions throughout society, as scientific discoveries usually do. Joni's lyrics often mention not truly knowing anything unless it's part of one's own experience, otherwise it's just guessing. Such "personal-ness" seems obvious to us now, but thinking back to songs of the 50s and earlier, I don't think those writers, or people in general, had such an awareness. Debra Shea NP: Sloan Wainwright, Unseen Guide ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 16:18:31 EDT From: AsharaProducLLC@aol.com Subject: WOW!!!!!!!!! *Very* Cool Raffle items!! The raffle table this year is growing by leaps and bounds! Ric Welch just donated a StarArt book AUTOGRAPHED by Ms. Mitchell herself! This is a very rare out of print book that has many of JOni's early paintings in it. We also have a Blue songbook donated by Randy Remote, and many other wonderful, exciting items! Remember to bring lots of cash/checks for raffle tickets. Thanks SO much to everyone that has donated items for the raffle and giveaway tables. It's not to late to add to the growing tables. I would especially like to see some CD's from the many talented listers here at the JMDL. Please send all items to: Ashara Productions, LLC 40 Parsonage Lane Topsfield, MA 01983 Hugs, Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 16:24:46 -0700 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: sports Vince Lavieri wrote: > Murphycopy@aol.com wrote: > > > is it just my imagination or is this > > list getting a lot more butch lately! > > > > > > Our inner atheletes are surfacing; we all want to be as buff as Sheryl Crow! I want to be in the buff with Sheryl Crow. ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2002 #207 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?