From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2002 #206 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Thursday, July 18 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 206 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Today's Library Links: July 17 [ljirvin@adelphia.net] Re: Barandgrill...I get it! JC [Engwall57@aol.com] Re: DJRD & NRH [Engwall57@aol.com] from a friend ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: Who is "A strange Boy" about? [Relayer211@aol.com] \White Sox fans and Joni [Vince Lavieri ] RE: \White Sox fans and Joni ["Victor Johnson" ] Re: \White Sox fans and Joni [Randy Remote ] Re: \White Sox fans and Joni [Murphycopy@aol.com] Re: sports [Vince Lavieri ] I get it now, BOB.... ["Bree Mcdonough" ] Re: JMDL Digest V2002 #291 - Stick up Washington [BRYAN8847@aol.com] RE: \White Sox fans and Joni ["Bree Mcdonough" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 03:01:48 -0400 From: ljirvin@adelphia.net Subject: Today's Library Links: July 17 On July 17 the following item was published: 1998: "Dylan, Mitchell, and Morrison a Hit and Miss Event" - Goldmine (Review - Concert) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/980717g.cfm ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 11:59:23 -0400 From: Engwall57@aol.com Subject: Re: Barandgrill...I get it! JC Mark, I think you are correct in that the question, "Who you gonna get to do the dirty work when all the slaves are free" is essential to the meaning of Passion Play. You hit the nail on the head when you said that the question could be interpreted two ways. Joni is the queen of dualism, so it is hard to say which question she is really asking - probably both! This is at least the third song with a reference to slaves in it ("a good slave loves the good book...", "where the wealth is made, the slaves will be taken.") This must be a question that she ponders quite often. Will empire succeed empire ad infinitum, with the powerful preying on the weaker ones, until mankind is no more? Or will a radical transformation occur, when there will be no more slaves? The second scenario is possible, with the level of technology we have reached, if it were shared with all. Much meaningless grunt work could be eliminated, freeing everyone to live fuller lives. But Joni is more aware than most of the "darkness in men's eyes" that seems to kill any chance of that ever occurring. Thanks to all for giving me food for thought. I was totally lost on this song before this discussion. Ruth in Richmond NP: 'The Job That Ate My Brain' The Ramones ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:03:28 -0400 From: Engwall57@aol.com Subject: Re: DJRD & NRH "...in Marlena and Otis when she sings "while muslims stick up washington" it still sends shivers down my spine. The album is pure genius." Joni is way, way ahead of her time. Who was even thinking about Muslims in 1978? Now you cannot read a newspaper or watch T.V without seeing something about Muslims. It must be tiresome to wait so long for everyone else to catch up to her. Ruthie ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:28:27 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: from a friend sorry this isn't njc but i wanted everyone to see it in hope of it helping someone... >I have good news regarding my progress with the amazing formula I've been taking to cure my ovarian cancer, Protocel. 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I have put much information onto my website about Protocel at: http://abarefootdoctor.com and I am happy to talk with anyone who wants to hear about it.< ******************************************** Kate Bennett: www.katebennett.com Sponsored by Polysonics/Atlantis Sound Labs Over the Moon- "bringing the melancholy world of twilight to life almost like magic" All Music Guide ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:24:43 EDT From: Relayer211@aol.com Subject: Re: Who is "A strange Boy" about? In a message dated 07/16/2002 8:13:54 AM Eastern Daylight Time, SCJoniGuy writes: << Although I do have to say I can relate to this lyric: "Grow up!" I cried And as the smoke was clearing he said "Give me one good reason why" Bob, growing older but not "up" >> "I was so much older then I'm younger then that now" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 17:28:39 -0400 From: Vince Lavieri Subject: \White Sox fans and Joni So on the White Sox fan boards some dude mentions that he likes jazz and I of course posted that he should listen to Mingus and then someone else posts about how great Joni's music is and discusses eloquently all of the albums through DJRD and I posted check out the stuff after that and someone else posts that Joni is the best lyricist ever and to prove that he posts the words to Amelia! So I do a plug for the JMDL and someone starts doing research off of JMDL links and starts posting Joni accolades and others chime in how much they like Joni too, and thus it was a sweet Joni day on the White Sox message boards. Only White Sox fans are classy enough to post the words to Amelia to prove who the world's best song writer is! Vince ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 17:39:19 -0700 From: "Victor Johnson" Subject: RE: \White Sox fans and Joni > So on the White Sox fan boards some dude mentions that he likes jazz and > I of course posted that he should listen to Mingus and then someone else > posts about how great Joni's music is and discusses eloquently all of > the albums through DJRD and I posted check out the stuff after that and > someone else posts that Joni is the best lyricist ever and to prove that > he posts the words to Amelia! > Funny you mention Amelia...I played it last night at an open mic and it was an unreal experience...I can't think of any other song that comes close to it...it seems to really cross the line and become more than just a song, a transcending experience reaching into the very heart of life itself...the lyrics especially... We were talking about it today and agreed that it is one of the best songs ever written. Synchronicity... Victor - --- Victor Johnson - --- waytoblu@mindspring.com "Roses wait for the springtime, They sleep beneath the ground. They hear March winds a callin' For the sun to come around."vlj Visit http://www.cdbaby.com/victorjohnson ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 15:01:39 -0700 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: \White Sox fans and Joni > > So on the White Sox fan boards some dude mentions that he likes jazz and > > I of course posted that he should listen to Mingus and then someone else > > posts about how great Joni's music is and discusses eloquently all of > > the albums through DJRD and I posted check out the stuff after that and > > someone else posts that Joni is the best lyricist ever and to prove that > > he posts the words to Amelia! > > > > Funny you mention Amelia...I played it last night at an open mic and it was > an unreal experience...I can't think of any other song that comes close to > it...it seems to really cross the line and become more than just a song, a > transcending experience reaching into the very heart of life itself...the > lyrics especially... > > We were talking about it today and agreed that it is one of the best songs > ever written. Synchronicity... > > Victor > I remember the first time I heard it, I was on the coast listening to a car radio, and there was this song...but the radio was coming in so poorly, I couldn't tell whether it was Joni or Paul Simon. RR ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 18:27:25 EDT From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: \White Sox fans and Joni Vince writes: << Only White Sox fans are classy enough to post the words to Amelia to prove who the world's best song writer is! >> While Red Sox fans are wondering whether or not Ted Williams' corpse will be frozen or cremated! Seriously though, Vince, I am astounded that any one group of sports fans would know so much about Joni. Or even care. --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 21:35:12 -0400 From: Vince Lavieri Subject: Re: sports Murphycopy@aol.com wrote: > is it just my imagination or is this > list getting a lot more butch lately! > > Our inner atheletes are surfacing; we all want to be as buff as Sheryl Crow! And Bob signs his name: > Bob, a former Red Sox fan who would rather have a very bad cold than > pennant fever Oh, why? Pennant fever is a blast. White Sox had a mild fever but it gone, just as outrseason is. I will have to deal with the fact that our government seems determined to go to war with Iraq as quickly as possible - why is it that Saudis run Al Queda and we have war against Afghnistan and soon Iraq? Oh yes, we have oil contracts with the Saudis - anyway, while we look for a pretense for war, I am having a few moments of peace enjoying baseball. Real life intrudes all too quickly and painfully. And I will be among the first in line on Carlton Fisk bobble headed doll day! If I don't get my Carlton Fisk bobble headed doll, that would be like letting the terrorists win. Osama bin Laden, you will never get your terrorists hands on my White Sox bobble headed doll collection! Maybe someone should sell folkie bobble headed dolls - Joni, Baez, Judy Collins, Bob Dylan... free to the first 10,000 fans at whatever concert - would pack the place out. The Grateful Dead cry out for bobble headed dolls. Then you could sell them in bobble headed doll sets: first your CS&N set, Y sold separately, then a CSN&Y set, then a S and an N sold separately, C&N together - then the reunion set - the possibilies for the bobble headed dolls boyfriends of Joni Mitchell would be a collectors dream, look at all the bobble headed dolls you'd have to buy to have a complete set!. Why the hell am I sitting here writing this shit when I should be copywriting my ideas and getting rights and getting production started? Vince NPIMH: take me out to the ballgame ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 19:46:04 -0700 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: I get it now, BOB.... I just saw all the posts related to baseball.....butch in that sense. Bree _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 22:55:22 EDT From: BRYAN8847@aol.com Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2002 #291 - Stick up Washington In a message dated 7/17/02 3:09:25 PM Pacific Daylight Time, les@jmdl.com writes: > Joni is way, way ahead of her time. Who was even thinking about Muslims in > 1978 I do believe Joni is sometimes prophetic, but the Muslims sticking up Washington reference was based on an actual event. I don't remember the exact circumstances, but some "radical" (radical for those days, anyway) Muslims took over some government office at gunpoint and took hostages (or something like that). It was a big news story for a few days. Bryan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 20:19:08 -0700 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: RE: \White Sox fans and Joni d > > someone else posts that Joni is the best lyricist ever and to prove that > > he posts the words to Amelia! > > > > >Funny you mention Amelia...I played it last night at an open mic and it was >an unreal experience...I can't think of any other song that comes close to >it...it seems to really cross the line and become more than just a song, a >transcending experience reaching into the very heart of life itself...the >lyrics especially... Beautifully described!! I'm glad that you do it because there are so many people out there who have never heard it.(people need to hear it) I'd love to hear your rendition sometime! Bree >We were talking about it today and agreed that it is one of the best songs >ever written. Synchronicity... > >Victor > > > >--- Victor Johnson >--- waytoblu@mindspring.com >"Roses wait for the springtime, >They sleep beneath the ground. >They hear March winds a callin' >For the sun to come around."vlj > >Visit http://www.cdbaby.com/victorjohnson _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 0:44:30 -0700 From: "Victor Johnson" Subject: RE: \White Sox fans and Joni > Beautifully described!! I'm glad that you do it because there are so many > people out there who have never heard it.(people need to hear it) I'd love > to hear your rendition sometime! I think you probably will if you're coming to jonifest :>) Victor > > > > >--- Victor Johnson > >--- waytoblu@mindspring.com > >"Roses wait for the springtime, > >They sleep beneath the ground. > >They hear March winds a callin' > >For the sun to come around."vlj > > > >Visit http://www.cdbaby.com/victorjohnson > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com - --- Victor Johnson - --- waytoblu@mindspring.com "Roses wait for the springtime, They sleep beneath the ground. They hear March winds a callin' For the sun to come around."vlj Visit http://www.cdbaby.com/victorjohnson ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2002 #206 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?